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Support; change to 2019 North Korean general election Although I disagree with the sentiment to change the title, as
Finnusertop has stated why it makes no sense, I do feel that also it makes little sense to use the term "parliamentary" due to the fact that the term parliament is not used by the state,
Oppose Current title is correct and matches the rest of the series. "General election" in place of "parliamentary election" is generally reserved for countries that are constitutional monarchies (with a small number of exceptions like Ireland).
Number5720:04, 23 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Strongly Oppose This is a real election, just a single-party one. Such elections were quite common in some earlier decades (like the 1970s and the 1980s). It seems ludicrous to me that someone try to deny the status of election in such a case, without even an idea about the new, proposed name of the article. --
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The lede and the body are written from two entirely different view points. While the lede correctly describes the "elections" as simply for show, the rest of the article completely ignores that fact. The "additional viewpoints" tag is meant for the rest of the article below the lede. ---
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It's the official term of their elections—they don't claim their system to be parliamentary.
The North Korean system is not a parliamentary system—everybody knows this.
This is the common name of elections in communist countries; Vietnam and Laos talk about "Elections to the [number] National Assembly]" and the Soviets talked about "Election of Deputies to the [number] Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union".
The lead—before I even edited the article—starts with "election of deputies to the 14th Supreme People's Assembly".
They are indeed electing the 14th Supreme People's Assembly.
They are indeed electing deputies—either for or against nominated deputies proposed by election committees composed of central party leaders.
We need to denote the difference between elections in liberal and democratic countries and elections in communist countries. North Korea is a tyranny. But even more important; not even they claim their election to be parliamentary.
The Supreme People's Assembly is not a parliament just like the
United States Congress is not a parliament.
The naming difference could also help to highlight the differences between liberal democratic systems and communist systems.
Oppose Current title is correct per
WP:NC-GAL, as unanimously agreed by respondents to the
last RM in 2019. Much of the above is irrelevant (countries with presidential systems still have parliaments like the
Parliament of Ghana), particularly the claimed need to separate out elections in communist countries (why not non-communist dictatorships?), but if 'parliamentary' is really problematic, 'legislative' can be used instead per
2017 French legislative election etc.
Number5720:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)reply
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Support; change to 2019 North Korean general election Although I disagree with the sentiment to change the title, as
Finnusertop has stated why it makes no sense, I do feel that also it makes little sense to use the term "parliamentary" due to the fact that the term parliament is not used by the state,
Oppose Current title is correct and matches the rest of the series. "General election" in place of "parliamentary election" is generally reserved for countries that are constitutional monarchies (with a small number of exceptions like Ireland).
Number5720:04, 23 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Strongly Oppose This is a real election, just a single-party one. Such elections were quite common in some earlier decades (like the 1970s and the 1980s). It seems ludicrous to me that someone try to deny the status of election in such a case, without even an idea about the new, proposed name of the article. --
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The lede and the body are written from two entirely different view points. While the lede correctly describes the "elections" as simply for show, the rest of the article completely ignores that fact. The "additional viewpoints" tag is meant for the rest of the article below the lede. ---
Coffeeand
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It's the official term of their elections—they don't claim their system to be parliamentary.
The North Korean system is not a parliamentary system—everybody knows this.
This is the common name of elections in communist countries; Vietnam and Laos talk about "Elections to the [number] National Assembly]" and the Soviets talked about "Election of Deputies to the [number] Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union".
The lead—before I even edited the article—starts with "election of deputies to the 14th Supreme People's Assembly".
They are indeed electing the 14th Supreme People's Assembly.
They are indeed electing deputies—either for or against nominated deputies proposed by election committees composed of central party leaders.
We need to denote the difference between elections in liberal and democratic countries and elections in communist countries. North Korea is a tyranny. But even more important; not even they claim their election to be parliamentary.
The Supreme People's Assembly is not a parliament just like the
United States Congress is not a parliament.
The naming difference could also help to highlight the differences between liberal democratic systems and communist systems.
Oppose Current title is correct per
WP:NC-GAL, as unanimously agreed by respondents to the
last RM in 2019. Much of the above is irrelevant (countries with presidential systems still have parliaments like the
Parliament of Ghana), particularly the claimed need to separate out elections in communist countries (why not non-communist dictatorships?), but if 'parliamentary' is really problematic, 'legislative' can be used instead per
2017 French legislative election etc.
Number5720:18, 13 January 2021 (UTC)reply
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