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Why is it taking so long this season? Some clubs allready qualified (Malmö, Flora, Vikingur, HJK, Spartaks, Rosenborg, Cork, Valur...). Just use the acess list and make an article. http://img.ekstraklasa.org/files/Kalendarz_pucharow1505740400.pdf 09:55, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Why is there no criticism of the new format that obviously panders to rich clubs? In regards to sourcing, I know Celtic (who will have to go through 4 qualification rounds now) were one of those attacking it. 2A02:C7D:15A:AB00:7C90:95F8:B852:ED30 ( talk) 22:35, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
The preliminary round involves four teams. Assuming that they follow the normal format, this will give two teams going into the next round. Yet the first qualifying round shows only one team qualifying from this round. Is this right, and if so, why? 46.7.195.132 ( talk) 13:35, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
The format will be two rounds of single-leg matches â Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.247.245.1 ( talk) 22:32, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! A break with tradition by UEFA, but an explanation nonetheless. 46.7.195.132 ( talk) 13:03, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
In the announcements for the changes to the competition for the 2018-19 season onwards, UEFA declared that there would be:
A new system for the club coefficients: clubs will be judged on their own records (deletion of the country share for individual club coefficient unless that coefficient is lower than 20% of the association's coefficient). Historical success in the competition will also be acknowledged in coefficient calculation (points for previous European titles with a weighted system for UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League titles)
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2398899.html#/
There seems to be no reflection of this in the current standings, or any confirmation of exactly how this will work. Anyone know anything? â Preceding unsigned comment added by Nessy76 ( talk âą contribs) 15:00, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
There will be two coefficients: one for seeding and one for financial (prize money) (sorry for my not perfect english). This means, that clubs with a higher coefficient, including historical results, recieve more money. Just in principle, I don't know details. -- 94.142.217.58 ( talk) 13:27, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
The new regulations are on the UEFA website [1]. And there are some changes :
13.06 For the purpose of the draw, the 32 clubs involved in the group stage are seeded into four groups of eight. The first group comprises the titleholder (top seed), the UEFA Europa League titleholder and the domestic champions of the six associations ranked highest in the access list (see Annex A). If either or both titleholders are the domestic champions of one of the top six associations, the group is completed with the champion(s) of the next highest ranked association(s). The other three groups are composed in accordance with the club coefficient rankings established at the beginning of the season (see Annex D). -- Rashinseita ( talk) 00:48, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Liverpool haven't quite secured Champions league through their league yet, so not an issue yet, but it may be soon. Exactly how will teams be redistributed in the qualifying rounds? The article stated that "the champions of association 11 (Czech Republic) will enter the group stage, and champions of the highest-ranked associations in earlier rounds will also be promoted accordingly." - but if you follow that backwards then you get a complication with the play-off round only having 1 team making the first qualifying round. If their were two spots you could move two teams forward, and have the other 2 play for the remaining spot - but with only one spot what will they do? Will the play-offs instead be changed to have BOTH winners through rather than play each other for one spot? And if that does happen, what happens in the Europa league - as there would only be 2 losers going to that not 3, so will someone get a bye in that? I realise there is a bit of speculation here, but if Liverpool do secure the CL through their league, then it's something the article will have to deal with. 2A02:C7D:159:6A00:C67:4316:FEBD:E2BC ( talk) 22:04, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, you are obviously right. 20 teams are supposed to play in the second qualifying round. IMHO there are two possible scenarios: - The belarusian champion qualifies directly to QR2, leaving 31 teams in QR1 who will be joined by the only qualifier from PR, so we will have 32/2=16+4= 20 teams - The belarusian champion remains in QR1, but PR qualifies two teams instead of one, so we will have 32+2=34/2=17+3=20 teams. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.225.232.230 ( talk) 16:38, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
The champions of association 11 (Czech Republic) will enter the group stage instead of the play-off round. The champions of association 13 (Netherlands) will enter the play-off round instead of the third qualifying round. The champions of associations 18 (Denmark), 19 (Belarus), 20 (Poland), and 21 (Sweden) will enter the second qualifying round instead of the first qualifying round.
" - is there a source for this? 2A02:C7D:159:6A00:3532:B71D:272D:50CA ( talk) 21:28, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
I have a doubt: the 17 losers of QR1 and the three losers PR are supposed to Europa League QR2, therefore would there be possible to have one of the scenarios depicted above? I mean, in the "32/2=16+4=20" case, there will be 16 QR1 + 3PR losers going to Europa League while in the "32+2=34/2=17+3=20" alternative will have 17 QR1 + 2PR losers going to Europa League. In both cases there would be one "loser missing", am I jibber jabbing? â Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.94.80.100 ( talk) 08:34, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
On the map of the group stage teams it is mentionned that Spartak Moscow has qualified already instead of Lokomotiv Moscow. This has to be changed. Spartak Moscow has qualified for the third qualification round and Lokomotiv Moscow has qualified for the group stage. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1811:2D13:9600:D1FA:76C5:B46F:E9B6 ( talk) 07:14, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
I notice that Inter has been shown as the 4th place Italian team, but according to https://www.google.ie/search?q=serie+a&rlz=1C1CHBF_enIE752IE752&oq=serie&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0j69i60j69i65j69i61l2.10542j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sie=lg;/g/11dfl0c_cg;2;/m/03zv9;st;fp;1 Lazio finished ahead of Inter on GD. Are you sure that it is Inter that qualifies? 46.7.195.132 ( talk) 21:00, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
I've just looked on the UEFA website, and it is indeed Inter that is shown as qualifiers. Any idea why this has happened? 46.7.195.132 ( talk) 07:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
We qualified because we are ahead of them in head to head matches â Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.225.232.230 ( talk) 08:28, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
TYVM: I've just discovered that. 46.7.195.132 ( talk) 10:51, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
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Insert Alashkert as champions of Armenia, because of a Disciplinary Committee that deducted Shirak 12 point (available here: http://www.ffa.am/hy/1526714227#.Wv_PoSWT5NA.facebook) 151.45.26.176 ( talk) 14:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Is anyone else seeing the map labels aligned =top and =bottom way way above/below the dots? The text "Madrid" is somewhere up in the Basque country in my browser and Barcelona's and Monaco's are overlapping. â filelakeshoe ( t / c) 08:41, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Want to ask before edit: Valencia it's already in pot 3? As far as I can see it's.
If Dynamo Kyiv ( 62000 ), Ajax ( 53500 ) and RedBull ( 55500 ) got qualified they're into pot 3 and there is still one position in pot 3. Same if Benfica ( 80000 ), Dynamo Kyiv ( 62000 ) and RedBull ( 55500 ) got qualified. Benfica enter pot 2, Liverpool pot 3 and and there is still one position in pot 3. The other teams have lower points than Valencia.
Am I wrong?
Slevin K ( talk) 08:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Why split the qualifying rounds into two articles, for "Champions Path" and "League Path" each? Previous seasons only got one article for qualifying rounds, which makes updating, referencing and browsing much easier. Sofeshue ( talk) 09:33, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
If Benfica qualify from the Play Off round they will go into Pot 2 with a co=efficient of 80.000 and Liverpool will be in Pot 3, that is correct isn't it? Statto74 ( talk) 13:04, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Your input are welcomed in Template talk:2018â19 UEFA Champions League group table#Requested move 20 October 2018 Hhkohh ( talk) 15:56, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be 4-2 against Red Star since they lost today? â Preceding unsigned comment added by Enigmaman ( talk âą contribs) 02:46, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
The name used by UEFA for the Italian club F.C. Internazionale Milano is "Internazionale", not "Inter Milan" which is not the name of the club.-- 93.34.95.231 ( talk) 10:43, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
In addition to what has been said, and as already mentioned on top of this discussion, please note that UEFA (which as you all know is the main football organization and entity regulating European football) calls the club "Internazionale" on its official website and on its official documents. UEFA is the most reliable and respected source for European football. So the club should be called "Internazionale" at least on UEFA competitions pages. Wikipedia users should not be allowed to modify a club's name providing a different version from recognized version used by the main football organization in Europe. This not a good service to Wikipedia.-- Blocci ( talk) 09:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
UEFA, the organisers of this competition, are calling the venue for the final the 'Estadio Metropolitano', not Wanda Metropolitano, which is the name used for that stadium in other competitions. I feel it is sensible to use the name UEFA are using, as it's their competition. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A31B:8540:EC00:14DF:E231:8E20:F0AF ( talk) 17:16, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Metropolitano Stadium (Spanish: Estadio Metropolitano), also referred as Wanda Metropolitano for sponsorship reasons, is a stadium in Madrid ..., which relegates thee sponsor name to the secondary name, and the infobox uses Estadio Metropolitano. There should be more consistency in the article.   Jts1882 |  talk 06:38, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Why do we have national flags, when these teams do not represent their countries? Why not the team flag, or the city's flag? This makes no sense at all. Drmies ( talk) 20:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
@ PeeJay2K3: I see you have nominated that template for TfD, however it seems to be messing with the page a bit since you done that, maybe we should just switch over to wiki code? Govvy ( talk) 09:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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Why is it taking so long this season? Some clubs allready qualified (Malmö, Flora, Vikingur, HJK, Spartaks, Rosenborg, Cork, Valur...). Just use the acess list and make an article. http://img.ekstraklasa.org/files/Kalendarz_pucharow1505740400.pdf 09:55, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Why is there no criticism of the new format that obviously panders to rich clubs? In regards to sourcing, I know Celtic (who will have to go through 4 qualification rounds now) were one of those attacking it. 2A02:C7D:15A:AB00:7C90:95F8:B852:ED30 ( talk) 22:35, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
The preliminary round involves four teams. Assuming that they follow the normal format, this will give two teams going into the next round. Yet the first qualifying round shows only one team qualifying from this round. Is this right, and if so, why? 46.7.195.132 ( talk) 13:35, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
The format will be two rounds of single-leg matches â Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.247.245.1 ( talk) 22:32, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! A break with tradition by UEFA, but an explanation nonetheless. 46.7.195.132 ( talk) 13:03, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
In the announcements for the changes to the competition for the 2018-19 season onwards, UEFA declared that there would be:
A new system for the club coefficients: clubs will be judged on their own records (deletion of the country share for individual club coefficient unless that coefficient is lower than 20% of the association's coefficient). Historical success in the competition will also be acknowledged in coefficient calculation (points for previous European titles with a weighted system for UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League titles)
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2398899.html#/
There seems to be no reflection of this in the current standings, or any confirmation of exactly how this will work. Anyone know anything? â Preceding unsigned comment added by Nessy76 ( talk âą contribs) 15:00, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
There will be two coefficients: one for seeding and one for financial (prize money) (sorry for my not perfect english). This means, that clubs with a higher coefficient, including historical results, recieve more money. Just in principle, I don't know details. -- 94.142.217.58 ( talk) 13:27, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
The new regulations are on the UEFA website [1]. And there are some changes :
13.06 For the purpose of the draw, the 32 clubs involved in the group stage are seeded into four groups of eight. The first group comprises the titleholder (top seed), the UEFA Europa League titleholder and the domestic champions of the six associations ranked highest in the access list (see Annex A). If either or both titleholders are the domestic champions of one of the top six associations, the group is completed with the champion(s) of the next highest ranked association(s). The other three groups are composed in accordance with the club coefficient rankings established at the beginning of the season (see Annex D). -- Rashinseita ( talk) 00:48, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Liverpool haven't quite secured Champions league through their league yet, so not an issue yet, but it may be soon. Exactly how will teams be redistributed in the qualifying rounds? The article stated that "the champions of association 11 (Czech Republic) will enter the group stage, and champions of the highest-ranked associations in earlier rounds will also be promoted accordingly." - but if you follow that backwards then you get a complication with the play-off round only having 1 team making the first qualifying round. If their were two spots you could move two teams forward, and have the other 2 play for the remaining spot - but with only one spot what will they do? Will the play-offs instead be changed to have BOTH winners through rather than play each other for one spot? And if that does happen, what happens in the Europa league - as there would only be 2 losers going to that not 3, so will someone get a bye in that? I realise there is a bit of speculation here, but if Liverpool do secure the CL through their league, then it's something the article will have to deal with. 2A02:C7D:159:6A00:C67:4316:FEBD:E2BC ( talk) 22:04, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, you are obviously right. 20 teams are supposed to play in the second qualifying round. IMHO there are two possible scenarios: - The belarusian champion qualifies directly to QR2, leaving 31 teams in QR1 who will be joined by the only qualifier from PR, so we will have 32/2=16+4= 20 teams - The belarusian champion remains in QR1, but PR qualifies two teams instead of one, so we will have 32+2=34/2=17+3=20 teams. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.225.232.230 ( talk) 16:38, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
The champions of association 11 (Czech Republic) will enter the group stage instead of the play-off round. The champions of association 13 (Netherlands) will enter the play-off round instead of the third qualifying round. The champions of associations 18 (Denmark), 19 (Belarus), 20 (Poland), and 21 (Sweden) will enter the second qualifying round instead of the first qualifying round.
" - is there a source for this? 2A02:C7D:159:6A00:3532:B71D:272D:50CA ( talk) 21:28, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
I have a doubt: the 17 losers of QR1 and the three losers PR are supposed to Europa League QR2, therefore would there be possible to have one of the scenarios depicted above? I mean, in the "32/2=16+4=20" case, there will be 16 QR1 + 3PR losers going to Europa League while in the "32+2=34/2=17+3=20" alternative will have 17 QR1 + 2PR losers going to Europa League. In both cases there would be one "loser missing", am I jibber jabbing? â Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.94.80.100 ( talk) 08:34, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
On the map of the group stage teams it is mentionned that Spartak Moscow has qualified already instead of Lokomotiv Moscow. This has to be changed. Spartak Moscow has qualified for the third qualification round and Lokomotiv Moscow has qualified for the group stage. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1811:2D13:9600:D1FA:76C5:B46F:E9B6 ( talk) 07:14, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
I notice that Inter has been shown as the 4th place Italian team, but according to https://www.google.ie/search?q=serie+a&rlz=1C1CHBF_enIE752IE752&oq=serie&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0j69i60j69i65j69i61l2.10542j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sie=lg;/g/11dfl0c_cg;2;/m/03zv9;st;fp;1 Lazio finished ahead of Inter on GD. Are you sure that it is Inter that qualifies? 46.7.195.132 ( talk) 21:00, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
I've just looked on the UEFA website, and it is indeed Inter that is shown as qualifiers. Any idea why this has happened? 46.7.195.132 ( talk) 07:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
We qualified because we are ahead of them in head to head matches â Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.225.232.230 ( talk) 08:28, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
TYVM: I've just discovered that. 46.7.195.132 ( talk) 10:51, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
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Insert Alashkert as champions of Armenia, because of a Disciplinary Committee that deducted Shirak 12 point (available here: http://www.ffa.am/hy/1526714227#.Wv_PoSWT5NA.facebook) 151.45.26.176 ( talk) 14:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Is anyone else seeing the map labels aligned =top and =bottom way way above/below the dots? The text "Madrid" is somewhere up in the Basque country in my browser and Barcelona's and Monaco's are overlapping. â filelakeshoe ( t / c) 08:41, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Want to ask before edit: Valencia it's already in pot 3? As far as I can see it's.
If Dynamo Kyiv ( 62000 ), Ajax ( 53500 ) and RedBull ( 55500 ) got qualified they're into pot 3 and there is still one position in pot 3. Same if Benfica ( 80000 ), Dynamo Kyiv ( 62000 ) and RedBull ( 55500 ) got qualified. Benfica enter pot 2, Liverpool pot 3 and and there is still one position in pot 3. The other teams have lower points than Valencia.
Am I wrong?
Slevin K ( talk) 08:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Why split the qualifying rounds into two articles, for "Champions Path" and "League Path" each? Previous seasons only got one article for qualifying rounds, which makes updating, referencing and browsing much easier. Sofeshue ( talk) 09:33, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
If Benfica qualify from the Play Off round they will go into Pot 2 with a co=efficient of 80.000 and Liverpool will be in Pot 3, that is correct isn't it? Statto74 ( talk) 13:04, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Your input are welcomed in Template talk:2018â19 UEFA Champions League group table#Requested move 20 October 2018 Hhkohh ( talk) 15:56, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Shouldn't it be 4-2 against Red Star since they lost today? â Preceding unsigned comment added by Enigmaman ( talk âą contribs) 02:46, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
The name used by UEFA for the Italian club F.C. Internazionale Milano is "Internazionale", not "Inter Milan" which is not the name of the club.-- 93.34.95.231 ( talk) 10:43, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
In addition to what has been said, and as already mentioned on top of this discussion, please note that UEFA (which as you all know is the main football organization and entity regulating European football) calls the club "Internazionale" on its official website and on its official documents. UEFA is the most reliable and respected source for European football. So the club should be called "Internazionale" at least on UEFA competitions pages. Wikipedia users should not be allowed to modify a club's name providing a different version from recognized version used by the main football organization in Europe. This not a good service to Wikipedia.-- Blocci ( talk) 09:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
UEFA, the organisers of this competition, are calling the venue for the final the 'Estadio Metropolitano', not Wanda Metropolitano, which is the name used for that stadium in other competitions. I feel it is sensible to use the name UEFA are using, as it's their competition. â Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A31B:8540:EC00:14DF:E231:8E20:F0AF ( talk) 17:16, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Metropolitano Stadium (Spanish: Estadio Metropolitano), also referred as Wanda Metropolitano for sponsorship reasons, is a stadium in Madrid ..., which relegates thee sponsor name to the secondary name, and the infobox uses Estadio Metropolitano. There should be more consistency in the article.   Jts1882 |  talk 06:38, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Why do we have national flags, when these teams do not represent their countries? Why not the team flag, or the city's flag? This makes no sense at all. Drmies ( talk) 20:43, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
@ PeeJay2K3: I see you have nominated that template for TfD, however it seems to be messing with the page a bit since you done that, maybe we should just switch over to wiki code? Govvy ( talk) 09:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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