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Reviewer: Jaguar ( talk · contribs) 21:23, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
I will be reviewing this as part of a GAN sweep. I'll leave some comments soon.
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I'm placing this on hold as the lead needs to be expanded and all unsourced sections need citations before this can pass. Once that is done, this has a good chance of passing. Overall it's very well written and comprehensive.
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Finally getting around to this, sorry for the delay.
GA recommendations have all been accounted for. @ Jaguar:, if it's to your liking, we may be done here. Spilia4 ( talk) 03:07, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
During this month, the team find them selfs winning 7 straight in the beginning of December after a 6-2 victory over the Boston Bruins.The article prose goes back and forth between present and past tense, the article lead has wikilinks in the bolded text, something absolutely forbidden in WP:LEAD, another GA criterion... I could go on, but all of this should have been caught. Please reverse the approval and resume the review, taking a very close look at the article, since it needs significant work: I'd like to recommend a full Guild of Copy Editors copyedit, since the tense issues are so pervasive. There's also a great deal of informal language used, and two parenthetical comments in the lead, which would also be addressed in a copyedit. Thank you for your consideration. BlueMoonset ( talk) 17:20, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Reassessment by: BlueMoonset ( talk) 05:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
This article, unfortunately, has some fundamental flaws that should never have been missed in its original GAN review, and I'm still bemused by the fact that it was passed even though they were pointed out to the reviewer, Jaguar. Among other things, it needs it complete copyedit—I suggested that the Guild of Copy Editors be asked—due to the constant switching between present and past tense, and a significant number of other grammatical and typographical issues. Now that I have read through it, I'm even more puzzled, because the sheer number of such errors are clearly evident to anyone reading with care.
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
This article does not reach the standard of a Good Article, and needs significant work throughout to get there. More complete comments will be given below.
General thoughts: I am not much of a hockey fan, so as such I am unlikely to understand specific jargon or sports shorthand. That can be a benefit, in that if a term isn't clear to me, it probably doesn't meet the "clear and concise" GA criterion.
Because there is so much here, I'm going to start by noting issues with a few sections only. Once these are addressed, I will move on to others. As noted earlier, a thorough and competent copyedit will be required for the entire article. I have not yet checked for original research or close paraphrasing; I will do spot-checks later in the reassessment process if warranted.
During head coach John Tortorella's first and only season with the team, the Canucks ended up missing the playoffs for the first time since the 2007–08 season ending their 5-year playoff streak, in addition to having their worst regular season record since the 1990–00 season.This is a run-on sentence that should be split up, and should also continue in the past tense set in the first sentence. Other errors include "1990–2000 season" (should be 1999) and missing punctuation after "2007–08 season". Suggested revision: The Canucks failed to make the playoffs for the first time since the 2007–08 season, and had their worst regular season record since the 1999–2000 season. New head coach John Tortorella was fired after his first season with the team.
This showing had the Canucks outside of the playoffs, a position the team was not accustom too.A couple of problems: "outside of the playoffs", which I think means that their record, or their place in the division, had them out of the running at that point. Also, "accustom" should be "accustomed".
December was a monumental month for the team, recording only three loses in four weeks leading up to the New Year, with only one being a regulation loss.The use of "monumental" violates the "words to watch" criterion. Also, the way the sentence is written, December recorded (not "recording") the losses (not "loses"). This needs to be simplified, and "regulation loss" should probably be wikilinked; better would be to note that there was one loss in regulation time, and two overtime losses.
However, the turn of the calendar threw the Canucks into a downward spiral.The calendar didn't do anything to anyone. The team performed more poorly in January.
Tortorella’s bombastic approach begin to clash. "began", not "begin", and I'm not sure "clash" is the right word given how the sentence is worded.
Vancouver would still continue for a playoff push though, ultimately failing to meet that expectation though, finishing sixth last in the NHL.Neither "though" is necessary, and "for a playoff push" is an odd locution; perhaps "Vancouver continued to fight for a playoff slot, but they failed to achieve it". Also, what exactly does "sixth last in the NHL" mean? If it's the sixth-lowest/poorest record in the NHL, then say that.
The low finished caused the firings of Tortorella and general manager Mike Gillis, among others.Definitely not "finished". And Gillis was gone before the end of the season.
For now, I'm only going to cover December through February and April.
This paragraph has very disappointing prose.
On April Fools' Day, Alain Vigneault returns to Vancouver with the Rangers. The Rangers would go on to win 3-1, damaging the Canucks playoff hopes.It's April 1, not April Fools' Day. This should be one short sentence; the Canucks' playoff hopes were already on life support, so blaming (or crediting) the Rangers with damaging them is excessive. I'm not sure Vigneault needs to be mentioned again. Also, remember that scores should use en dashes to separate the digits, not hyphens.
On Apr 7There's no reason to abbreviate a month, the sentence does not end with a period. Also, if the chant started with three minutes to go and the score 3–0, say that directly; it's implied but unclear exactly when the chant began.
Trevor Linden, the former Canucks, replaced Gillis as the president of hockey operation, though he still need to find a new GM.Let's take this one thing at a time:
Lack's 19th Consecutive start ended: Lack's streak ended after he started 19 consecutive games
for the last 3 game: for the final three games of the season
On Apr 12: "April". Also, this sentence seems to be talking about the retirement of Ryan Smith, who isn't even a Canuck; why is this relevant? I'd drop this entire sentence.
As noted above, this is far too long (and violates criterion 3b in that this is not focused on the Canucks season, but a major diversion from it). Other issues:
When potential players were invited to orientation camps in the offseason for Olympic teams: Olympic teams have an offseason? I'm guessing this happened during the NHL offseason. (Also, it's "off-season" everywhere else in the article; please use the hyphen here, too.) This entire paragraph should be condensed.
showing positives for next season: what does this mean?
Even in what I've covered, there is a daunting amount of work that needs to be done on this article. I am allowing the standard seven days for work to be done on the article. If significant progress is being made, I will naturally extend the time. However, I am not willing to wait for a Guild of Copy Editors copyedit to be submitted and started, since the backlog is close to a month. (If the GOCE has begun the copyedit, I'm happy to wait for it to be concluded, provided it remains active.) BlueMoonset ( talk) 05:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
There has been no response from the original nominator, Spilia4, despite having received a talk page notification back on May 6, and despite being active on Wikipedia in the interim, including making an FAC nomination. Given that the article was far from meeting the GA criteria even at the time of its original review, and not a single edit has been made to attempt to bring it up to GA level, I am closing the reassessment with the article being delisted. I regret that this is necessary, but the condition of the article leaves no other option.
Delisted. BlueMoonset ( talk) 06:11, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Jaguar ( talk · contribs) 21:23, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
I will be reviewing this as part of a GAN sweep. I'll leave some comments soon.
JAG
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21:23, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm placing this on hold as the lead needs to be expanded and all unsourced sections need citations before this can pass. Once that is done, this has a good chance of passing. Overall it's very well written and comprehensive.
JAG
UARÂ
16:52, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Finally getting around to this, sorry for the delay.
GA recommendations have all been accounted for. @ Jaguar:, if it's to your liking, we may be done here. Spilia4 ( talk) 03:07, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
During this month, the team find them selfs winning 7 straight in the beginning of December after a 6-2 victory over the Boston Bruins.The article prose goes back and forth between present and past tense, the article lead has wikilinks in the bolded text, something absolutely forbidden in WP:LEAD, another GA criterion... I could go on, but all of this should have been caught. Please reverse the approval and resume the review, taking a very close look at the article, since it needs significant work: I'd like to recommend a full Guild of Copy Editors copyedit, since the tense issues are so pervasive. There's also a great deal of informal language used, and two parenthetical comments in the lead, which would also be addressed in a copyedit. Thank you for your consideration. BlueMoonset ( talk) 17:20, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Reassessment by: BlueMoonset ( talk) 05:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
This article, unfortunately, has some fundamental flaws that should never have been missed in its original GAN review, and I'm still bemused by the fact that it was passed even though they were pointed out to the reviewer, Jaguar. Among other things, it needs it complete copyedit—I suggested that the Guild of Copy Editors be asked—due to the constant switching between present and past tense, and a significant number of other grammatical and typographical issues. Now that I have read through it, I'm even more puzzled, because the sheer number of such errors are clearly evident to anyone reading with care.
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
This article does not reach the standard of a Good Article, and needs significant work throughout to get there. More complete comments will be given below.
General thoughts: I am not much of a hockey fan, so as such I am unlikely to understand specific jargon or sports shorthand. That can be a benefit, in that if a term isn't clear to me, it probably doesn't meet the "clear and concise" GA criterion.
Because there is so much here, I'm going to start by noting issues with a few sections only. Once these are addressed, I will move on to others. As noted earlier, a thorough and competent copyedit will be required for the entire article. I have not yet checked for original research or close paraphrasing; I will do spot-checks later in the reassessment process if warranted.
During head coach John Tortorella's first and only season with the team, the Canucks ended up missing the playoffs for the first time since the 2007–08 season ending their 5-year playoff streak, in addition to having their worst regular season record since the 1990–00 season.This is a run-on sentence that should be split up, and should also continue in the past tense set in the first sentence. Other errors include "1990–2000 season" (should be 1999) and missing punctuation after "2007–08 season". Suggested revision: The Canucks failed to make the playoffs for the first time since the 2007–08 season, and had their worst regular season record since the 1999–2000 season. New head coach John Tortorella was fired after his first season with the team.
This showing had the Canucks outside of the playoffs, a position the team was not accustom too.A couple of problems: "outside of the playoffs", which I think means that their record, or their place in the division, had them out of the running at that point. Also, "accustom" should be "accustomed".
December was a monumental month for the team, recording only three loses in four weeks leading up to the New Year, with only one being a regulation loss.The use of "monumental" violates the "words to watch" criterion. Also, the way the sentence is written, December recorded (not "recording") the losses (not "loses"). This needs to be simplified, and "regulation loss" should probably be wikilinked; better would be to note that there was one loss in regulation time, and two overtime losses.
However, the turn of the calendar threw the Canucks into a downward spiral.The calendar didn't do anything to anyone. The team performed more poorly in January.
Tortorella’s bombastic approach begin to clash. "began", not "begin", and I'm not sure "clash" is the right word given how the sentence is worded.
Vancouver would still continue for a playoff push though, ultimately failing to meet that expectation though, finishing sixth last in the NHL.Neither "though" is necessary, and "for a playoff push" is an odd locution; perhaps "Vancouver continued to fight for a playoff slot, but they failed to achieve it". Also, what exactly does "sixth last in the NHL" mean? If it's the sixth-lowest/poorest record in the NHL, then say that.
The low finished caused the firings of Tortorella and general manager Mike Gillis, among others.Definitely not "finished". And Gillis was gone before the end of the season.
For now, I'm only going to cover December through February and April.
This paragraph has very disappointing prose.
On April Fools' Day, Alain Vigneault returns to Vancouver with the Rangers. The Rangers would go on to win 3-1, damaging the Canucks playoff hopes.It's April 1, not April Fools' Day. This should be one short sentence; the Canucks' playoff hopes were already on life support, so blaming (or crediting) the Rangers with damaging them is excessive. I'm not sure Vigneault needs to be mentioned again. Also, remember that scores should use en dashes to separate the digits, not hyphens.
On Apr 7There's no reason to abbreviate a month, the sentence does not end with a period. Also, if the chant started with three minutes to go and the score 3–0, say that directly; it's implied but unclear exactly when the chant began.
Trevor Linden, the former Canucks, replaced Gillis as the president of hockey operation, though he still need to find a new GM.Let's take this one thing at a time:
Lack's 19th Consecutive start ended: Lack's streak ended after he started 19 consecutive games
for the last 3 game: for the final three games of the season
On Apr 12: "April". Also, this sentence seems to be talking about the retirement of Ryan Smith, who isn't even a Canuck; why is this relevant? I'd drop this entire sentence.
As noted above, this is far too long (and violates criterion 3b in that this is not focused on the Canucks season, but a major diversion from it). Other issues:
When potential players were invited to orientation camps in the offseason for Olympic teams: Olympic teams have an offseason? I'm guessing this happened during the NHL offseason. (Also, it's "off-season" everywhere else in the article; please use the hyphen here, too.) This entire paragraph should be condensed.
showing positives for next season: what does this mean?
Even in what I've covered, there is a daunting amount of work that needs to be done on this article. I am allowing the standard seven days for work to be done on the article. If significant progress is being made, I will naturally extend the time. However, I am not willing to wait for a Guild of Copy Editors copyedit to be submitted and started, since the backlog is close to a month. (If the GOCE has begun the copyedit, I'm happy to wait for it to be concluded, provided it remains active.) BlueMoonset ( talk) 05:01, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
There has been no response from the original nominator, Spilia4, despite having received a talk page notification back on May 6, and despite being active on Wikipedia in the interim, including making an FAC nomination. Given that the article was far from meeting the GA criteria even at the time of its original review, and not a single edit has been made to attempt to bring it up to GA level, I am closing the reassessment with the article being delisted. I regret that this is necessary, but the condition of the article leaves no other option.
Delisted. BlueMoonset ( talk) 06:11, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
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