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This article could be widened out to a name along the lines of 2013-2014 Atlantic winter storms in Europe to include storm "Bernd", "Dirk", "Erich" and "Xaver" in December, and also the effects in Ireland, France, Spain and Portugal, Channel Islands, Isle of Man. Lacunae ( talk) 20:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
It's huge, should we have 2 interlinked pages, 1 UK and Ireland and 1 for the EU? The Northaptonshire pins ( talk) 23:43, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
yes, it unfortunately looks unlikely that the storms and their aftermath cannot be kept in the same article, with half the article being broadly chronological and the other regional. Perhaps it would be better to split into 2013-2014 Atlantic winter storms in Europe and 2013-2014 winter flooding in the United Kingdom/Europe. Lacunae ( talk) 15:38, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
I was thinking of spiting it in to the current Anglo/Irish UK storms of January-February 2014 and new mainland EU page Western European storms of January-February 2014. The Northaptonshire pins ( talk) 23:48, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
The North sea storm surge (Xaver) event should be re-instated as that is the event they're running the government Bellwin Scheme (relief funding for local government) from. The Nordic events give backwards context to the "conveyor belt of storms" surrounding the Xaver event, and that this conveyor belt was arranged in a slightly different way during November. I disagree that this should be in any way be a UK only effect article, some of these storms were sat across the entire North Atlantic, with notable effects from Iceland to Morocco. These are synoptic scale events affecting multiple countries. I'm also not convinced that the flooding aspect is best shoe-horned into a single event storm template. My preference would have been for a broadly chronological article, rather than the very detailed geographical one, but I'm grateful for a dedicated user who's prepared to put in the time. I'm also not entirely keen on losing what attempts there were to differentiate between different types of flooding involved in these events. Lacunae ( talk) 02:33, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Lots of parts seem copied from news articles, with phrases like "earlier this morning", "this afternoon" left in! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.188.194.245 ( talk) 13:34, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
I know, I'm doing it 'on the hoof' as Google and my TV suffocate in media reports, but a cleanup will occur later. Sorry about missing "earlier this morning", "this afternoon". It will be sorted soon. The Northaptonshire pins ( talk) 21:24, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
I know this article's had numerous moves now, but surely the title should be Winter storms of 2013–14 in the United Kingdom? Paul MacDermott ( talk) 22:05, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
You could put the European storm info on Winter storms of 2013–14 in Western Europe. 90.244.81.164 ( talk) 13:37, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
So, how about Winter floods of 2013–14 in Great Britain and Ireland and Winter storms of 2013–14 in Western Europe. Paul MacDermott ( talk) 14:56, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Why is this article so long and detailed? It reads as if we are trying to collate every news item into one place. This is not our job, and Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. To see here the details of school closures and individual MP visits to places and so on seems excessive and really just ends up with something that it is tempting to not read. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be horrible and critical and I know that a lot of hard work is being done here in good faith. But it feels almost like out-of-control newsgathering - with sometimes a concomitant loss of quality ("Lord Pickels"?) - and not what should be in an encyclopaedia. But now I have made my token protest I will shut up and let you get on with it! Best wishes to all DBaK ( talk) 11:00, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Added multiple issues tag, sigh. Lacunae ( talk) 20:41, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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Moonriddengirl
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The metadata section mentions at least 17 deaths. I could not find a source for the 17 victims. I could find a source for "about" 7 victims [1]. I searched for uk floods + victims, casualties, deaths. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SiggyF ( talk • contribs) 08:42, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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This article could be widened out to a name along the lines of 2013-2014 Atlantic winter storms in Europe to include storm "Bernd", "Dirk", "Erich" and "Xaver" in December, and also the effects in Ireland, France, Spain and Portugal, Channel Islands, Isle of Man. Lacunae ( talk) 20:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
It's huge, should we have 2 interlinked pages, 1 UK and Ireland and 1 for the EU? The Northaptonshire pins ( talk) 23:43, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
yes, it unfortunately looks unlikely that the storms and their aftermath cannot be kept in the same article, with half the article being broadly chronological and the other regional. Perhaps it would be better to split into 2013-2014 Atlantic winter storms in Europe and 2013-2014 winter flooding in the United Kingdom/Europe. Lacunae ( talk) 15:38, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
I was thinking of spiting it in to the current Anglo/Irish UK storms of January-February 2014 and new mainland EU page Western European storms of January-February 2014. The Northaptonshire pins ( talk) 23:48, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
The North sea storm surge (Xaver) event should be re-instated as that is the event they're running the government Bellwin Scheme (relief funding for local government) from. The Nordic events give backwards context to the "conveyor belt of storms" surrounding the Xaver event, and that this conveyor belt was arranged in a slightly different way during November. I disagree that this should be in any way be a UK only effect article, some of these storms were sat across the entire North Atlantic, with notable effects from Iceland to Morocco. These are synoptic scale events affecting multiple countries. I'm also not convinced that the flooding aspect is best shoe-horned into a single event storm template. My preference would have been for a broadly chronological article, rather than the very detailed geographical one, but I'm grateful for a dedicated user who's prepared to put in the time. I'm also not entirely keen on losing what attempts there were to differentiate between different types of flooding involved in these events. Lacunae ( talk) 02:33, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Lots of parts seem copied from news articles, with phrases like "earlier this morning", "this afternoon" left in! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.188.194.245 ( talk) 13:34, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
I know, I'm doing it 'on the hoof' as Google and my TV suffocate in media reports, but a cleanup will occur later. Sorry about missing "earlier this morning", "this afternoon". It will be sorted soon. The Northaptonshire pins ( talk) 21:24, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
I know this article's had numerous moves now, but surely the title should be Winter storms of 2013–14 in the United Kingdom? Paul MacDermott ( talk) 22:05, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
You could put the European storm info on Winter storms of 2013–14 in Western Europe. 90.244.81.164 ( talk) 13:37, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
So, how about Winter floods of 2013–14 in Great Britain and Ireland and Winter storms of 2013–14 in Western Europe. Paul MacDermott ( talk) 14:56, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Why is this article so long and detailed? It reads as if we are trying to collate every news item into one place. This is not our job, and Wikipedia is NOTNEWS. To see here the details of school closures and individual MP visits to places and so on seems excessive and really just ends up with something that it is tempting to not read. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be horrible and critical and I know that a lot of hard work is being done here in good faith. But it feels almost like out-of-control newsgathering - with sometimes a concomitant loss of quality ("Lord Pickels"?) - and not what should be in an encyclopaedia. But now I have made my token protest I will shut up and let you get on with it! Best wishes to all DBaK ( talk) 11:00, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Added multiple issues tag, sigh. Lacunae ( talk) 20:41, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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Moonriddengirl
(talk) 17:27, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
The metadata section mentions at least 17 deaths. I could not find a source for the 17 victims. I could find a source for "about" 7 victims [1]. I searched for uk floods + victims, casualties, deaths. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SiggyF ( talk • contribs) 08:42, 13 April 2016 (UTC)