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On 27 April 2020, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2012 Delhi gang rape to 2012 Delhi gang rape and murder. The result of the discussion was successful. |
I noticed that content about the erstwhile juvenile's possible names and accompanying citations had been removed. While the rationale for removal isn't mentioned in the edit summaries, the probable reason is that it is illegal in India to publish the name of a juvenile accused or convict. I have reverted those edits in keeping with the policy of WP:NOTCENSORED. The convict is no longer a juvenile and wasn't one when the trial happened. However, I would like to invite discussion on this topic if anyone disagrees with this rationale. pinging @ Isamarshad: -- Rohini ( talk) 08:10, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
The juveniles identity has been changed and including his changed name doesn’t help with the facts. Thebetaman ( talk) 15:50, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Just remove his name from the article Thebetaman ( talk) 15:51, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
the name of the juvenile has not been officially revealed in a public forum and has been kept confidential since the the law necessitates that a juvenile’s identity is not to be disclosed. The name thus floating on social media is mere speculation. Source
"Except the video I haven't seen anyone naming him except the video of IndiaToday earlier tagged there and as far as I remember the Delhi police never revealed his name. So I am highly doubtful. Despite whatever his name is, WP:BLPNAME prevents from naming someone whose name has been intentionally omitted officially including in court records and isn't allowed to be named publicly. In the case of a rape victim, the family can reveal the name and the family of Nirbhaya did. However the juvenile isn't allowed ti be named under Juvenile Justice Act. Additionally the victimisation and probable threat on his life if his name is revealed also makes another case why his name shouldn't be there whether the name the sources gave might be wrong or true. Therefore, I am in agreement the previous edit versions containing all the various versions of his real name whatever they are should be deleted."
Privacy of names
Caution should be applied when identifying individuals who are discussed primarily in terms of a single event.
When the name of a private individual has not been widely disseminated or has been intentionally concealed, such as in certain court cases or occupations, it is often preferable to omit it, especially when doing so does not result in a significant loss of context.
When deciding whether to include a name, its publication in secondary sources other than news media, such as scholarly journals or the work of recognized experts, should be afforded greater weight than the brief appearance of names in news stories.
the name of the juvenile has not been officially revealed in a public forum and has been kept confidential since the the law necessitates that a juvenile’s identity is not to be disclosed. The name thus floating on social media is mere speculation. Source - AltNews.in (A fact checker site)
{{od} Holy Contributor 92 I assume the name removal is per this discussion consensus. Legally a juvenile convict is given privacy and Wikipedia follows the same. Vikram Vincent 06:56, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Vincentvikram: Sorry folks I didn't go through this discussion before reverting the IP. Anyway name of other convicts and victim are indeed mentioned in the article, What about them ??? Holy Contributor 92 ( talk) 09:13, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
There was an overwhelming consensus to remove the "alleged" name of the juvenile defendant from the article. Editors must not add it back. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 06:59, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved ( non-admin closure) -- Killarnee ( T• 1• 2) 01:41, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
2012 Delhi gang rape →
2012 Delhi gang rape and murder – It was a case of gang rape and murder, not just a gang rape.
Hemant Dabral
Talk 13:08, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Justanother2 please stop moving this article without discussion. You need to establish consensus first when making a move, especially when someone else contests your claim. There's already been multiple discussions about moving this article on this talk page here (see above). Soni ( talk) 12:34, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report 2 times. The weeks in which this happened: |
On 27 April 2020, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2012 Delhi gang rape to 2012 Delhi gang rape and murder. The result of the discussion was successful. |
I noticed that content about the erstwhile juvenile's possible names and accompanying citations had been removed. While the rationale for removal isn't mentioned in the edit summaries, the probable reason is that it is illegal in India to publish the name of a juvenile accused or convict. I have reverted those edits in keeping with the policy of WP:NOTCENSORED. The convict is no longer a juvenile and wasn't one when the trial happened. However, I would like to invite discussion on this topic if anyone disagrees with this rationale. pinging @ Isamarshad: -- Rohini ( talk) 08:10, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
The juveniles identity has been changed and including his changed name doesn’t help with the facts. Thebetaman ( talk) 15:50, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Just remove his name from the article Thebetaman ( talk) 15:51, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
the name of the juvenile has not been officially revealed in a public forum and has been kept confidential since the the law necessitates that a juvenile’s identity is not to be disclosed. The name thus floating on social media is mere speculation. Source
"Except the video I haven't seen anyone naming him except the video of IndiaToday earlier tagged there and as far as I remember the Delhi police never revealed his name. So I am highly doubtful. Despite whatever his name is, WP:BLPNAME prevents from naming someone whose name has been intentionally omitted officially including in court records and isn't allowed to be named publicly. In the case of a rape victim, the family can reveal the name and the family of Nirbhaya did. However the juvenile isn't allowed ti be named under Juvenile Justice Act. Additionally the victimisation and probable threat on his life if his name is revealed also makes another case why his name shouldn't be there whether the name the sources gave might be wrong or true. Therefore, I am in agreement the previous edit versions containing all the various versions of his real name whatever they are should be deleted."
Privacy of names
Caution should be applied when identifying individuals who are discussed primarily in terms of a single event.
When the name of a private individual has not been widely disseminated or has been intentionally concealed, such as in certain court cases or occupations, it is often preferable to omit it, especially when doing so does not result in a significant loss of context.
When deciding whether to include a name, its publication in secondary sources other than news media, such as scholarly journals or the work of recognized experts, should be afforded greater weight than the brief appearance of names in news stories.
the name of the juvenile has not been officially revealed in a public forum and has been kept confidential since the the law necessitates that a juvenile’s identity is not to be disclosed. The name thus floating on social media is mere speculation. Source - AltNews.in (A fact checker site)
{{od} Holy Contributor 92 I assume the name removal is per this discussion consensus. Legally a juvenile convict is given privacy and Wikipedia follows the same. Vikram Vincent 06:56, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
@ Vincentvikram: Sorry folks I didn't go through this discussion before reverting the IP. Anyway name of other convicts and victim are indeed mentioned in the article, What about them ??? Holy Contributor 92 ( talk) 09:13, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
There was an overwhelming consensus to remove the "alleged" name of the juvenile defendant from the article. Editors must not add it back. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 06:59, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
It was proposed in this section that
2012 Delhi gang rape be
renamed and moved to
2012 Delhi gang rape and murder.
The discussion has been closed, and the result will be found in the closer's comment. Links:
current log •
target log
This is template {{
subst:Requested move/end}} |
The result of the move request was: moved ( non-admin closure) -- Killarnee ( T• 1• 2) 01:41, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
2012 Delhi gang rape →
2012 Delhi gang rape and murder – It was a case of gang rape and murder, not just a gang rape.
Hemant Dabral
Talk 13:08, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Justanother2 please stop moving this article without discussion. You need to establish consensus first when making a move, especially when someone else contests your claim. There's already been multiple discussions about moving this article on this talk page here (see above). Soni ( talk) 12:34, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 18 January 2023 and 14 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Anikas26 ( article contribs). Peer reviewers: Ddetchev1, Pranavxiyer.
— Assignment last updated by Adirrao ( talk) 22:05, 17 May 2023 (UTC)