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Some of the recent edits to the lead seem intend to change the article subject to fit a rewritten history. We need to adhere to what sources actually say. For example, there was no "relationship" between LGBT people and Chick-fil-a. CFA donated to anti-gay charities and its CEO overtly spoke out against LGBT rights. - Mr X 🖋 17:07, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
This is my suggested lede, based off of my final edit before this discussion was started:
The international fast food restaurant Chik-fil-A and LGBT people have had a contentious relationship, [1] largely starting after a series of public comments made in June 2012 by Chick-fil-A's chief operating officer Dan T. Cathy opposing same-sex marriage. Further issues followed reports that Chick-fil-A's charitable endeavor, the S. Truett Cathy-operated WinShape Foundation, had donated millions of dollars to organizations seen by LGBT activists as hostile to LGBT rights. Activists called for protests and boycotts, while supporters of the restaurant chain and opponents of same-sex marriage ate there in support of the restaurant. National political figures both for and against the actions spoke out and some business partners severed ties with the chain.
This gets the title into it without strange wordsmithing and maintains the initial incident (June 2012 comments) description. "Contentious relationship" is used in many articles to describe the interaction between Chick-fil-A and LGBT people, such as in this article, which I added as a citation in the lede to make sure there isn't any WP:NOR. Cerebral726 ( talk) 17:56, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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I'm surprised about the above move and this is also part of the issue. One doesn't need to be LGBT to have an opinion about this and the topic is actually about religious political activism, not " this and that"... — Paleo Neonate – 13:36, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
The content of this page appears to primarily concern the 2012 protests and boycott of Chik-fil-a due to the founders/corporate support of traditional Christian marriage practices. The headline says it concerns all LGBT people in relation to Chik-fil-a, which is hardly supported by the article or by reality. It also has an extraordinary amount of exposition, down to fine details, about the controversy that is unnecessary and sometimes duplicative of the main Chik-fil-a Wikipedia page, such as the airports controversy. In short, this page is uncalled for and polemical, and appears to violate NPOV and numerous parts of WWIN.
At a bare minimum the title needs to be changed; strong consideration should be given as to how to pare it down to a reasonable size and (the best course of action) merging it with the corresponding section on the main Chik-fil-a page, and deleting this page.-- 108.49.153.17 ( talk) 22:51, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
To better fit with other Wikipedia articles of the same type, the title should be at least changed to “Chik-Fil-A controversy with the LGBTQ community” 192.0.159.15 ( talk) 20:40, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Could the title be changed? Since i dont think the title is the same as somme other similar Wikipedia pages. can it be changed to something like "LGBTQ controversy of Chik-Fil-A"? Babysharkboss2 ( talk) 14:14, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
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Some of the recent edits to the lead seem intend to change the article subject to fit a rewritten history. We need to adhere to what sources actually say. For example, there was no "relationship" between LGBT people and Chick-fil-a. CFA donated to anti-gay charities and its CEO overtly spoke out against LGBT rights. - Mr X 🖋 17:07, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
This is my suggested lede, based off of my final edit before this discussion was started:
The international fast food restaurant Chik-fil-A and LGBT people have had a contentious relationship, [1] largely starting after a series of public comments made in June 2012 by Chick-fil-A's chief operating officer Dan T. Cathy opposing same-sex marriage. Further issues followed reports that Chick-fil-A's charitable endeavor, the S. Truett Cathy-operated WinShape Foundation, had donated millions of dollars to organizations seen by LGBT activists as hostile to LGBT rights. Activists called for protests and boycotts, while supporters of the restaurant chain and opponents of same-sex marriage ate there in support of the restaurant. National political figures both for and against the actions spoke out and some business partners severed ties with the chain.
This gets the title into it without strange wordsmithing and maintains the initial incident (June 2012 comments) description. "Contentious relationship" is used in many articles to describe the interaction between Chick-fil-A and LGBT people, such as in this article, which I added as a citation in the lede to make sure there isn't any WP:NOR. Cerebral726 ( talk) 17:56, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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I'm surprised about the above move and this is also part of the issue. One doesn't need to be LGBT to have an opinion about this and the topic is actually about religious political activism, not " this and that"... — Paleo Neonate – 13:36, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
The content of this page appears to primarily concern the 2012 protests and boycott of Chik-fil-a due to the founders/corporate support of traditional Christian marriage practices. The headline says it concerns all LGBT people in relation to Chik-fil-a, which is hardly supported by the article or by reality. It also has an extraordinary amount of exposition, down to fine details, about the controversy that is unnecessary and sometimes duplicative of the main Chik-fil-a Wikipedia page, such as the airports controversy. In short, this page is uncalled for and polemical, and appears to violate NPOV and numerous parts of WWIN.
At a bare minimum the title needs to be changed; strong consideration should be given as to how to pare it down to a reasonable size and (the best course of action) merging it with the corresponding section on the main Chik-fil-a page, and deleting this page.-- 108.49.153.17 ( talk) 22:51, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
To better fit with other Wikipedia articles of the same type, the title should be at least changed to “Chik-Fil-A controversy with the LGBTQ community” 192.0.159.15 ( talk) 20:40, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Could the title be changed? Since i dont think the title is the same as somme other similar Wikipedia pages. can it be changed to something like "LGBTQ controversy of Chik-Fil-A"? Babysharkboss2 ( talk) 14:14, 16 August 2023 (UTC)