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Just a minor thing I've noted on other draft pages: in American English, when you refer to a team by the location, use "its"; when you refer to a team by the team name, use "their." For example, "New England traded its . . .", but "The New England Patriots traded their . . ." Samer ( talk) 01:32, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
In a move that raises many questions, the Jets acquired second-year quarterback Kevin O'Connell from the Lions Sunday in exchange for an undisclosed draft pick.
This is my understanding:
The Jets, not the Rams, own the pick in the fifth round originally belonging to the Eagles, as part of the deal that also sent Lito Sheppard to the Jets.
The Eagles, as noted, did indeed send a fifth round pick to the Rams as part of the Witherspoon deal, but not the one shown. The Rams now own the pick belonging originally to the Saints (The Eagles are shown as still owning this pick in the article).
The Eagles do not currently own a fifth round selection.
InsultComicDog ( talk) 12:29, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
The Trades section doesn't look to be organized right. It lists rounds 3-7, followed by conditional trades, followed by rounds 1-5. If there is a reason for this it should be explained. 96.238.136.233 ( talk) 01:30, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
#85: New England → Oakland (PD). New England traded this selection (85th overall,
traded to Cleveland) and its fourth-round selection (because New England did not have a fifth-round selection at the time, when they
acquired one, this fourth-round selection was
traded back to New England) to Oakland for defensive end
Derrick Burgess.
#85: Oakland → Cleveland (PD). Oakland traded this selection it
acquired from New England to Cleveland for defensive end
Kamerion Wimbley.
See http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/16040/download-2010-nfl-draft-order InsultComicDog ( talk) 21:35, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
[1] Enigma msg 04:24, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I work a lot with lists, and there were a few issues in this list that pop out to me. So, rather than making the changes myself and disrupting the editors that have worked on this list a lot (and will continue to work on it a lot as the draft progresses), I thought I'd make my comments here.
Looking back at previous NFL Draft lists, it seems this list is fashioned like those. But just because that is the way it was done in the past doesn't make it right. Just some suggestions. Hopefully someone takes them into consideration.— NMajdan• talk 14:03, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
I put last year's draft in my userspace and made the most of the suggested changes to the table. See how you like it. I know actually seeing how something looks is a lot different than simply discussing it User:Frank Anchor/2009 NFL Draft. Frank Anchor Talk 02:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
I've implemented the suggestions discussed here into the article, based on the example created by Frank Anchor. Please take a look and let me know if there's anything I've missed. — DeeJayK ( talk) 21:22, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I've come up with a few more random suggestions to perhaps improve this list, but I'd like to get some feedback:
I'm not really sold on any of these, but just wanted to throw the ideas out there to see how the hive mind feels about them. — DeeJayK ( talk) 21:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Personally I dont mind the changes as long as they are all done this way. The only disagreement I have is there is no seperation between rounds.-- Yankees10 17:24, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Looks like you missed at least one team trade in the middle of editing, Pick #104 got traded to the Titans for example. 70.112.126.227 ( talk) 15:25, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Links to the wrong John Skelton's page. Someone needs to make a page for the football player out of Fordham Theswissarmy ( talk) 17:34, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Pick #159 in the 5th round still lists The San Diego Chargers as drafting Riley Cooper. They actually traded that pick to The Philadelphia Eagles, who selected him with that pick.
Now that we've made the changes suggested in the List comments discussion, the next step is to update all the previous articles similarly. However, before we tackle that, I wonder if it makes sense to create a template for the draft table? The benefits I can see would be:
What I'm envisioning is a set of templates — one for the table header, another for the data rows and a simple table footer. We could also create templates for the "Jump to:" table and the little key.
Does anyone else feel this makes sense? — DeeJayK ( talk) 16:57, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
{{NFL Draft Table Header}} {{NFL Draft Table Entry | round=1 | pick=1 | team=[[St. Louis Ram]] | player_first=Sam | player_last=Bradford | player_link= | position=[[Quarterback]] | college=[[Oklahoma Sooners football|Oklahoma]] | compensatory=no | supp_compensatory=no | probowler=no | trade_info=}} {{NFL Draft Table Entry | round=1 | pick=14 | team=[[Seattle Seahawks]] | player_first=Earl | player_last=Thomas | player_link=Earl Thomas (defensive back) | position=[[Safety (American football)|Safety]] | college=[[Texas Longhorns football|Texas]] | compensatory=no | supp_compensatory=no | probowler=no | trade_info=<sup>(from San Francisco via Denver)</sup> <ref group="R1 trade">'''#13: San Francisco ? Denver (D).''' ''See [[#ADavis|'''#11: Denver ? San Francisco''']] above.''</ref> {{#tag:ref|{{Anchor|BGraham}}'''#13: Denver ? Philadelphia (D).''' Denver traded this selection it [[#ADavis|acquired from San Francisco]] to Philadelphia for a first-round selection (24th overall; after all trades, Dallas selected [[Dez Bryant]]), a third-round selection it [[#SeattlePhilly|acquired from Seattle]] (70th overall; [[#Tebow|traded to Baltimore]], who selected [[Ed Dickson]]), and a third-round selection (87th overall; Denver selected [[Eric Decker]]).<ref group="source">{{cite web|url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d817b4621&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true|title=Draft trade tracker: Let's make a deal: Broncos move down again|work=NFL.com|publisher=National Football League|date=April 22, 2010|accessdate=April 22, 2010}}</ref>|group="R1 trade"}} || [[Brandon Graham (American football)|Brandon Graham]] || [[Defensive end]] || [[Michigan Wolverines football|Michigan]]}} {{NFL Draft Table Footer}}
PHI->CLE BOLD, then
CLE->PHI *See PHI->CLE in Rd 3 UNbolded
so that users can tell at a glance it is a second listing of a trade already mentioned earlier.
IdioT.SavanT.i4 (
talk)
10:07, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I've completed a mock-up of the draft table from this article using a newly created set of templates. This layout also includes a few other functional changes which have been discussed in other threads on this page:
The advantages of these changes are:
Please let me know what you think about the changes I'm proposing. — DeeJayK ( talk) 11:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Armanti Edwards was the QB for Appalachian State. However, he was drafted as a WR. Which should be reflected in the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.230.4 ( talk) 13:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
(1) To get around the "ugly border" issue, perhaps we can do what is done on TV show season pages, and use a different color for the round #s in each row (e.g., something like ROYGBIV)? Samer ( talk) 18:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
(2) In terms of the trades, I would suggest two things to improve readability: When there are multiple trades, put the appropriate tags after each trade (e.g., from X[tag 1] via Y[tag 2] and Z[tag 3]), and change the arrows to "to"; when the text is small, the arrows are difficult to see. Samer ( talk) 18:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Does this section seem unnecessarily large to anyone else? 68.44.116.199 ( talk) 02:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Jermaine Gresham is a pro-bowler. Change it.
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Just a minor thing I've noted on other draft pages: in American English, when you refer to a team by the location, use "its"; when you refer to a team by the team name, use "their." For example, "New England traded its . . .", but "The New England Patriots traded their . . ." Samer ( talk) 01:32, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
In a move that raises many questions, the Jets acquired second-year quarterback Kevin O'Connell from the Lions Sunday in exchange for an undisclosed draft pick.
This is my understanding:
The Jets, not the Rams, own the pick in the fifth round originally belonging to the Eagles, as part of the deal that also sent Lito Sheppard to the Jets.
The Eagles, as noted, did indeed send a fifth round pick to the Rams as part of the Witherspoon deal, but not the one shown. The Rams now own the pick belonging originally to the Saints (The Eagles are shown as still owning this pick in the article).
The Eagles do not currently own a fifth round selection.
InsultComicDog ( talk) 12:29, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
The Trades section doesn't look to be organized right. It lists rounds 3-7, followed by conditional trades, followed by rounds 1-5. If there is a reason for this it should be explained. 96.238.136.233 ( talk) 01:30, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
#85: New England → Oakland (PD). New England traded this selection (85th overall,
traded to Cleveland) and its fourth-round selection (because New England did not have a fifth-round selection at the time, when they
acquired one, this fourth-round selection was
traded back to New England) to Oakland for defensive end
Derrick Burgess.
#85: Oakland → Cleveland (PD). Oakland traded this selection it
acquired from New England to Cleveland for defensive end
Kamerion Wimbley.
See http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/16040/download-2010-nfl-draft-order InsultComicDog ( talk) 21:35, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
[1] Enigma msg 04:24, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I work a lot with lists, and there were a few issues in this list that pop out to me. So, rather than making the changes myself and disrupting the editors that have worked on this list a lot (and will continue to work on it a lot as the draft progresses), I thought I'd make my comments here.
Looking back at previous NFL Draft lists, it seems this list is fashioned like those. But just because that is the way it was done in the past doesn't make it right. Just some suggestions. Hopefully someone takes them into consideration.— NMajdan• talk 14:03, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
I put last year's draft in my userspace and made the most of the suggested changes to the table. See how you like it. I know actually seeing how something looks is a lot different than simply discussing it User:Frank Anchor/2009 NFL Draft. Frank Anchor Talk 02:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
I've implemented the suggestions discussed here into the article, based on the example created by Frank Anchor. Please take a look and let me know if there's anything I've missed. — DeeJayK ( talk) 21:22, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
I've come up with a few more random suggestions to perhaps improve this list, but I'd like to get some feedback:
I'm not really sold on any of these, but just wanted to throw the ideas out there to see how the hive mind feels about them. — DeeJayK ( talk) 21:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Personally I dont mind the changes as long as they are all done this way. The only disagreement I have is there is no seperation between rounds.-- Yankees10 17:24, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Looks like you missed at least one team trade in the middle of editing, Pick #104 got traded to the Titans for example. 70.112.126.227 ( talk) 15:25, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Links to the wrong John Skelton's page. Someone needs to make a page for the football player out of Fordham Theswissarmy ( talk) 17:34, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Pick #159 in the 5th round still lists The San Diego Chargers as drafting Riley Cooper. They actually traded that pick to The Philadelphia Eagles, who selected him with that pick.
Now that we've made the changes suggested in the List comments discussion, the next step is to update all the previous articles similarly. However, before we tackle that, I wonder if it makes sense to create a template for the draft table? The benefits I can see would be:
What I'm envisioning is a set of templates — one for the table header, another for the data rows and a simple table footer. We could also create templates for the "Jump to:" table and the little key.
Does anyone else feel this makes sense? — DeeJayK ( talk) 16:57, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
{{NFL Draft Table Header}} {{NFL Draft Table Entry | round=1 | pick=1 | team=[[St. Louis Ram]] | player_first=Sam | player_last=Bradford | player_link= | position=[[Quarterback]] | college=[[Oklahoma Sooners football|Oklahoma]] | compensatory=no | supp_compensatory=no | probowler=no | trade_info=}} {{NFL Draft Table Entry | round=1 | pick=14 | team=[[Seattle Seahawks]] | player_first=Earl | player_last=Thomas | player_link=Earl Thomas (defensive back) | position=[[Safety (American football)|Safety]] | college=[[Texas Longhorns football|Texas]] | compensatory=no | supp_compensatory=no | probowler=no | trade_info=<sup>(from San Francisco via Denver)</sup> <ref group="R1 trade">'''#13: San Francisco ? Denver (D).''' ''See [[#ADavis|'''#11: Denver ? San Francisco''']] above.''</ref> {{#tag:ref|{{Anchor|BGraham}}'''#13: Denver ? Philadelphia (D).''' Denver traded this selection it [[#ADavis|acquired from San Francisco]] to Philadelphia for a first-round selection (24th overall; after all trades, Dallas selected [[Dez Bryant]]), a third-round selection it [[#SeattlePhilly|acquired from Seattle]] (70th overall; [[#Tebow|traded to Baltimore]], who selected [[Ed Dickson]]), and a third-round selection (87th overall; Denver selected [[Eric Decker]]).<ref group="source">{{cite web|url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d817b4621&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true|title=Draft trade tracker: Let's make a deal: Broncos move down again|work=NFL.com|publisher=National Football League|date=April 22, 2010|accessdate=April 22, 2010}}</ref>|group="R1 trade"}} || [[Brandon Graham (American football)|Brandon Graham]] || [[Defensive end]] || [[Michigan Wolverines football|Michigan]]}} {{NFL Draft Table Footer}}
PHI->CLE BOLD, then
CLE->PHI *See PHI->CLE in Rd 3 UNbolded
so that users can tell at a glance it is a second listing of a trade already mentioned earlier.
IdioT.SavanT.i4 (
talk)
10:07, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
I've completed a mock-up of the draft table from this article using a newly created set of templates. This layout also includes a few other functional changes which have been discussed in other threads on this page:
The advantages of these changes are:
Please let me know what you think about the changes I'm proposing. — DeeJayK ( talk) 11:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Armanti Edwards was the QB for Appalachian State. However, he was drafted as a WR. Which should be reflected in the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.230.4 ( talk) 13:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
(1) To get around the "ugly border" issue, perhaps we can do what is done on TV show season pages, and use a different color for the round #s in each row (e.g., something like ROYGBIV)? Samer ( talk) 18:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
(2) In terms of the trades, I would suggest two things to improve readability: When there are multiple trades, put the appropriate tags after each trade (e.g., from X[tag 1] via Y[tag 2] and Z[tag 3]), and change the arrows to "to"; when the text is small, the arrows are difficult to see. Samer ( talk) 18:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Does this section seem unnecessarily large to anyone else? 68.44.116.199 ( talk) 02:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
This
edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Jermaine Gresham is a pro-bowler. Change it.
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The objective of this section is not just to put any undrafted free agent, but the players that had a productive career that made a difference to their team and in the league. I've had a disagreement with an anonymous user, so I would like your feedback in regards to which list of players should remain. Makers267 ( talk) 13:15, 21 April 2018 (UTC)