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The Ivorian presidential election, 2010 article is very long, and discusses the lead-up to the election, and the first and second round ballot. I think the post-election discussion could be moved here. Wizzy… ☎ 06:53, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
The article urgently needs updating! In particular, the refugees should be mentioned: "Separately, the UN's refugee agency says the number of civilians fleeing west to Liberia has surged. "Until mid-week we were seeing around 100 people crossing the border daily. But over the past 24 hours alone, the numbers coming across have swollen to 5,000 people," the agency said in a statement." [1]
The situation is becoming serious and not enough attention is paid to this crisis! It should be on the main page of Wikipedia (news)! Olegwiki ( talk) 17:09, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
For 4 months and the media says that it is still "heading towards civil war".-- 78.3.223.193 ( talk) 07:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
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The way that this has been developing that last week or so, this is turning into a civil war. If forces loyal to Ouattara are starting to besiege Abidjan, this is no longer a crisis. It's an armed uprising, a civil war. Juiposa ( talk) 23:49, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Creating a separate article for this conflict still makes no sense. If too much info is the problem, we should create a separate for the Iraq War and call it "Iraqi Crisis." That doesn't make sense and your actions don't make sense. Remove the article now or merge it into this article. B-Machine ( talk) 03:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
I didn't specify that a new article should have been created. I just suggested that this article be renamed to suggest that this is now a civil war. Maybe I should have made that more clear. Juiposa ( talk) 20:17, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
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Note that the merge was discussed in two separate discussions and my comment above concerned only that discussion, which has now been 'merged' here. Cenarium ( talk) 13:06, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately the discussions have become hopelessly confused and the discussion from that page should not have been merged here. The issue has been discussed on two separate talk pages and two separate proposals have been advanced - (1) that this article should be retitled (Juiposa's original proposal) and that (2) Second Ivorian Civil War should be merged into this article (Bender235's proposal). It is now unclear who is supporting or opposing what. Since Bender235 clearly wants to go ahead with the proposal to merge the two articles, I've closed the previous confused merger/retitle discussion above and posted a clarified proposal below. I will be contacting the editors who commented in the previous discussions to ask them to state their preferences. Prioryman ( talk) 17:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
It has been proposed that this article, 2010-2011 Ivorian crisis, be merged into Second Ivorian Civil War. The rationale of the proponent, User:Bender235, is that "instead of having three articles— Ivorian presidential election, 2010, 2010–2011 Ivorian crisis, and Second Ivorian Civil War—there should be only two— Ivorian presidential election, 2010, and Second Ivorian Civil War." Please state below whether you support this proposal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prioryman ( talk • contribs)
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Second Ivorian Civil War, although a move discussion could take place after this one finishes. The previous discussion was closed as a No Consensus,
ProposalThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Second Ivorian Civil War and 2010-2011 Ivorian Crisis are the same conflict. Having two articles about the same conflict is absurd. Merge both articles now. B-Machine ( talk) 15:59, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
You two are ridiculous. Both articles are describing the same event with the same citations. You know they're the same. I won't stop until these articles are merged or one gets deleted. B-Machine ( talk) 14:28, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
It seems to me that the consensus here is in favor of merging, so let's do it. Charles Essie ( talk) 17:29, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
User:TaalVerbeteraar claims that France wasn't a neutral force, that it backed Ouatara. This is arguable, but exactly the same argument can be made for the United Nations. France was clearly not a co-beligerent. I've undone this edit. Perhaps the problem is the heading "Neutral forces". Maybe something like "International Forces" would be better. HughesJohn ( talk) 17:31, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
A similar point on forces involved. I would argue that having Belarus and Romania as supporting the Gbango is perhaps a bit far. Selling weapons to a side is not indicative of support. Indeed countries have sold weapons to both sides in conflicts before [1], it's all just about money. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.226.214.217 ( talk) 05:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Donating or selling at a reduced price would show support
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>> Ivory Coast to send ex-youth leader to ICC ( Lihaas ( talk) 17:26, 20 March 2014 (UTC)).
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The Ivorian presidential election, 2010 article is very long, and discusses the lead-up to the election, and the first and second round ballot. I think the post-election discussion could be moved here. Wizzy… ☎ 06:53, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
The article urgently needs updating! In particular, the refugees should be mentioned: "Separately, the UN's refugee agency says the number of civilians fleeing west to Liberia has surged. "Until mid-week we were seeing around 100 people crossing the border daily. But over the past 24 hours alone, the numbers coming across have swollen to 5,000 people," the agency said in a statement." [1]
The situation is becoming serious and not enough attention is paid to this crisis! It should be on the main page of Wikipedia (news)! Olegwiki ( talk) 17:09, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
For 4 months and the media says that it is still "heading towards civil war".-- 78.3.223.193 ( talk) 07:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
See below for explanation |
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The way that this has been developing that last week or so, this is turning into a civil war. If forces loyal to Ouattara are starting to besiege Abidjan, this is no longer a crisis. It's an armed uprising, a civil war. Juiposa ( talk) 23:49, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Creating a separate article for this conflict still makes no sense. If too much info is the problem, we should create a separate for the Iraq War and call it "Iraqi Crisis." That doesn't make sense and your actions don't make sense. Remove the article now or merge it into this article. B-Machine ( talk) 03:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
I didn't specify that a new article should have been created. I just suggested that this article be renamed to suggest that this is now a civil war. Maybe I should have made that more clear. Juiposa ( talk) 20:17, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
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Note that the merge was discussed in two separate discussions and my comment above concerned only that discussion, which has now been 'merged' here. Cenarium ( talk) 13:06, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately the discussions have become hopelessly confused and the discussion from that page should not have been merged here. The issue has been discussed on two separate talk pages and two separate proposals have been advanced - (1) that this article should be retitled (Juiposa's original proposal) and that (2) Second Ivorian Civil War should be merged into this article (Bender235's proposal). It is now unclear who is supporting or opposing what. Since Bender235 clearly wants to go ahead with the proposal to merge the two articles, I've closed the previous confused merger/retitle discussion above and posted a clarified proposal below. I will be contacting the editors who commented in the previous discussions to ask them to state their preferences. Prioryman ( talk) 17:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
It has been proposed that this article, 2010-2011 Ivorian crisis, be merged into Second Ivorian Civil War. The rationale of the proponent, User:Bender235, is that "instead of having three articles— Ivorian presidential election, 2010, 2010–2011 Ivorian crisis, and Second Ivorian Civil War—there should be only two— Ivorian presidential election, 2010, and Second Ivorian Civil War." Please state below whether you support this proposal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prioryman ( talk • contribs)
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Second Ivorian Civil War and 2010-2011 Ivorian Crisis are the same conflict. Having two articles about the same conflict is absurd. Merge both articles now. B-Machine ( talk) 15:59, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
You two are ridiculous. Both articles are describing the same event with the same citations. You know they're the same. I won't stop until these articles are merged or one gets deleted. B-Machine ( talk) 14:28, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
It seems to me that the consensus here is in favor of merging, so let's do it. Charles Essie ( talk) 17:29, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
User:TaalVerbeteraar claims that France wasn't a neutral force, that it backed Ouatara. This is arguable, but exactly the same argument can be made for the United Nations. France was clearly not a co-beligerent. I've undone this edit. Perhaps the problem is the heading "Neutral forces". Maybe something like "International Forces" would be better. HughesJohn ( talk) 17:31, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
A similar point on forces involved. I would argue that having Belarus and Romania as supporting the Gbango is perhaps a bit far. Selling weapons to a side is not indicative of support. Indeed countries have sold weapons to both sides in conflicts before [1], it's all just about money. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.226.214.217 ( talk) 05:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Donating or selling at a reduced price would show support
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