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Since the sponsorship text is in the lead, I think that probably gives too much value to it. Which is why it was reverted. It is important, partly because of the title. If sections for the game are created, then we probably can find a slot for it. Alaney2k ( talk) 02:12, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
The sponsorship doesn't belong here at all. However, the title perhaps should be changed to 2008 NHL Winter Classic because, as the years go by, there will be additional Winter Classics (*) and these will be sponsored by various entities and not just AMP Energy. (*)For instance, the 2009 Winter Classic will be held at Wrigley Field in Chicago between the Black Hawks and the Detroit Red Wings. Vincent Ree ( talk) 05 June 2008
Seems to be missing a redirect from Winter Classic. Similarly, the Heritage Classic is missing a redirect from NHL Heritage Classic 70.51.8.73 ( talk) 11:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Just a thought for whoever regularly "watches" these NHL articles that our local news station here in NEPA has said that depending on the success of this game that an outdoor game may be held this season at the Penn State Stadium between Philly and Pittsburgh. SO if that game does happen it might be worth mentioning that it happened because of the success of this game. Fisha695 ( talk) 19:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
what was the additional attendance at the HSBC Arena in addition to the on-site audience? 70.51.11.40 03:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Should this be mentioned as the nickname for the game, and redirects be created? Ice Bowl (NHL) Ice Bowl (hockey) Ice Bowl (ice hockey)... 70.51.11.40 ( talk) 03:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
diagrams/photos/promo images of the old style uniforms (or faked old in the case of the Penguins) would be nice. 70.51.11.40 ( talk) 04:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The lead section is way too long. For an article this length, the lead should really be just two or three paragraphs, and should only introduce the concepts discussed in the article. I would suggest moving the last three paragraphs down to their own section(s), and reworking the lead to touch on what is discussed in each section of the article. i.e.: mention the attendance in the lead, as it is discussed lower down in a section titled ==Attendance==.
On the controversy about ticket sales, what was the controversy exactly?
There is no need for three and four citations to support one statement. It probably wouldn't hurt to remove some of the excess links.
The paragraph on NBC using a plane overhead needs a citation.
IMO, a full box score would be preferable to a goal summary, but that's just me. It might be nice to know who took the penalties, who the officials were, etc.
I question the value of the succession boxes at the end. That this game succeeded the Heritage Classic, and broke the attendance record from that game is prominently noted in the article. The succession boxes seem redundant to me.
Just a few thoughts, as requested. Going to peer review might help (though I've found it to be of dubious value), or posting a general message at WT:HOCKEY looking for other eyes would work too. So far though, it looks very good! Reso lute 00:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that the article should not be nominated until we find some photo images of the event we can use. I think we could probably use an NHL.com photo per non-free. Those are intended for public distribution. We can always e-mail them and ask. Alaney2k ( talk) 17:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Would this be the record for attendence at a profesional hockey game? -- T- rex 01:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Is this going to be an annual event? If so, we should consider moving this to 2008 AMP Energy NHL Winter Classic. Smartyllama ( talk) 22:53, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Requested at WT:HOCKEY;
-- Krm500 ( talk) 03:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I have looked over the article and I feel that it meets the GA criteria. Therefore, I have decided to pass it. The only thing that I can think of at the moment to fix it up a little, is gaining a few more sources. Congratulations to everyone who helped in getting this article to GA-status. iMat thew 20 08 13:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I think it would be worth noting those players who played outdoors before. I know Conklin and Laraque played in the the Heritage Classic, and Hall played in the Cold War (ice hockey). Grsz 11 15:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
The Winter Classic looks like it is going to be an annual game (like the Super Bowl). It's too much of a ratings boost for NBC or the NHL to abandon. Therefore this article should be broken down into a general article with links to the 2008 WC (Pens-Sabres) 2009 WC (Chi-Det), etc...-- Pennsylvania Penguin ( talk) 13:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
It looks a lot better. I think it is safe to call it the 2008 Winter Classic. The event's logo is already dated and so is the 2009 patch. The patches are already starting to look more like the ones used for the MLB All-Star games and we refer to those like the 2008 MLB All-Star Game. But waiting until 2009 won't hurt either. -- Pennsylvania Penguin ( talk) 14:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
There was an article today about how the Penguins' players felt about the game. I'm sure there are more out there and if somebody wanted to spend the time a Reaction section could probably be written. Black ngold29 20:34, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
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National Hockey League game in the United States? | |||||||||||||
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Since the sponsorship text is in the lead, I think that probably gives too much value to it. Which is why it was reverted. It is important, partly because of the title. If sections for the game are created, then we probably can find a slot for it. Alaney2k ( talk) 02:12, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
The sponsorship doesn't belong here at all. However, the title perhaps should be changed to 2008 NHL Winter Classic because, as the years go by, there will be additional Winter Classics (*) and these will be sponsored by various entities and not just AMP Energy. (*)For instance, the 2009 Winter Classic will be held at Wrigley Field in Chicago between the Black Hawks and the Detroit Red Wings. Vincent Ree ( talk) 05 June 2008
Seems to be missing a redirect from Winter Classic. Similarly, the Heritage Classic is missing a redirect from NHL Heritage Classic 70.51.8.73 ( talk) 11:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Just a thought for whoever regularly "watches" these NHL articles that our local news station here in NEPA has said that depending on the success of this game that an outdoor game may be held this season at the Penn State Stadium between Philly and Pittsburgh. SO if that game does happen it might be worth mentioning that it happened because of the success of this game. Fisha695 ( talk) 19:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
what was the additional attendance at the HSBC Arena in addition to the on-site audience? 70.51.11.40 03:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Should this be mentioned as the nickname for the game, and redirects be created? Ice Bowl (NHL) Ice Bowl (hockey) Ice Bowl (ice hockey)... 70.51.11.40 ( talk) 03:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
diagrams/photos/promo images of the old style uniforms (or faked old in the case of the Penguins) would be nice. 70.51.11.40 ( talk) 04:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
The lead section is way too long. For an article this length, the lead should really be just two or three paragraphs, and should only introduce the concepts discussed in the article. I would suggest moving the last three paragraphs down to their own section(s), and reworking the lead to touch on what is discussed in each section of the article. i.e.: mention the attendance in the lead, as it is discussed lower down in a section titled ==Attendance==.
On the controversy about ticket sales, what was the controversy exactly?
There is no need for three and four citations to support one statement. It probably wouldn't hurt to remove some of the excess links.
The paragraph on NBC using a plane overhead needs a citation.
IMO, a full box score would be preferable to a goal summary, but that's just me. It might be nice to know who took the penalties, who the officials were, etc.
I question the value of the succession boxes at the end. That this game succeeded the Heritage Classic, and broke the attendance record from that game is prominently noted in the article. The succession boxes seem redundant to me.
Just a few thoughts, as requested. Going to peer review might help (though I've found it to be of dubious value), or posting a general message at WT:HOCKEY looking for other eyes would work too. So far though, it looks very good! Reso lute 00:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that the article should not be nominated until we find some photo images of the event we can use. I think we could probably use an NHL.com photo per non-free. Those are intended for public distribution. We can always e-mail them and ask. Alaney2k ( talk) 17:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Would this be the record for attendence at a profesional hockey game? -- T- rex 01:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Is this going to be an annual event? If so, we should consider moving this to 2008 AMP Energy NHL Winter Classic. Smartyllama ( talk) 22:53, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Requested at WT:HOCKEY;
-- Krm500 ( talk) 03:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I have looked over the article and I feel that it meets the GA criteria. Therefore, I have decided to pass it. The only thing that I can think of at the moment to fix it up a little, is gaining a few more sources. Congratulations to everyone who helped in getting this article to GA-status. iMat thew 20 08 13:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I think it would be worth noting those players who played outdoors before. I know Conklin and Laraque played in the the Heritage Classic, and Hall played in the Cold War (ice hockey). Grsz 11 15:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
The Winter Classic looks like it is going to be an annual game (like the Super Bowl). It's too much of a ratings boost for NBC or the NHL to abandon. Therefore this article should be broken down into a general article with links to the 2008 WC (Pens-Sabres) 2009 WC (Chi-Det), etc...-- Pennsylvania Penguin ( talk) 13:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
It looks a lot better. I think it is safe to call it the 2008 Winter Classic. The event's logo is already dated and so is the 2009 patch. The patches are already starting to look more like the ones used for the MLB All-Star games and we refer to those like the 2008 MLB All-Star Game. But waiting until 2009 won't hurt either. -- Pennsylvania Penguin ( talk) 14:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
There was an article today about how the Penguins' players felt about the game. I'm sure there are more out there and if somebody wanted to spend the time a Reaction section could probably be written. Black ngold29 20:34, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
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