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So as not to contravene WP:3RR I raise this question here - the Petes finished third in the round-robin by goal difference. Should they not be listed in third in round-robin standings in spite of losing to the Giants in the tie-breaker? I believe that officially the standings remain the same although obviously the Giants advanced. See also 2002 Memorial Cup, where the Tigres finished fourth but won the tie-breaker. BoojiBoy 00:00, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
From what it looks like is that goal difference is not a tiebreaker. It looks like they go directly to a tiebreaking game. Is there a rule in the memorial cup about this? Kingjeff 00:39, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Goal differential is the tiebreaker; that's why Peterborough was the "home" team for the tiebreaker game and why Quebec went straight to the final. You just can't get eliminated on goal differential, hence the tiebreaker game. BoojiBoy 00:44, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The official Memorial Cup website has it the other way around. Kingjeff 00:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
That's weird, since the 2002 Official Site has it the other way around. BoojiBoy 00:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I think the 2006 page is the correct way because the tiebreaking game is the only tiebreaker and goal difference has no impact on the tiebreaking. Kingjeff 01:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, whatever we do, it should be standardized throughout the Memorial Cup articles. I'll post something on WP Ice Hockey and see if we can come to a conclusion/vote. BoojiBoy 01:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't think any vote is needed. What we should do is do it based on what the tiebreaker rule(s) is and go with that. Kingjeff 14:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Why are we discussing this at all? It's neither our place nor our job to tell the Memorial Cup organizers how they're supposed to list their standings. How they do it -- in whatever year is pertinent -- is how we should list it. How it was done in 2002 is irrelevant if they've changed their methodology. Ravenswing 20:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
From what it looks like, the rule is very clear. But someone along the line assumed that goal difference was the tiebreaker. Kingjeff 20:23, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Is the tiebreaking formula the only tiebreaking rule?
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So as not to contravene WP:3RR I raise this question here - the Petes finished third in the round-robin by goal difference. Should they not be listed in third in round-robin standings in spite of losing to the Giants in the tie-breaker? I believe that officially the standings remain the same although obviously the Giants advanced. See also 2002 Memorial Cup, where the Tigres finished fourth but won the tie-breaker. BoojiBoy 00:00, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
From what it looks like is that goal difference is not a tiebreaker. It looks like they go directly to a tiebreaking game. Is there a rule in the memorial cup about this? Kingjeff 00:39, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Goal differential is the tiebreaker; that's why Peterborough was the "home" team for the tiebreaker game and why Quebec went straight to the final. You just can't get eliminated on goal differential, hence the tiebreaker game. BoojiBoy 00:44, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The official Memorial Cup website has it the other way around. Kingjeff 00:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
That's weird, since the 2002 Official Site has it the other way around. BoojiBoy 00:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I think the 2006 page is the correct way because the tiebreaking game is the only tiebreaker and goal difference has no impact on the tiebreaking. Kingjeff 01:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, whatever we do, it should be standardized throughout the Memorial Cup articles. I'll post something on WP Ice Hockey and see if we can come to a conclusion/vote. BoojiBoy 01:09, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't think any vote is needed. What we should do is do it based on what the tiebreaker rule(s) is and go with that. Kingjeff 14:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Why are we discussing this at all? It's neither our place nor our job to tell the Memorial Cup organizers how they're supposed to list their standings. How they do it -- in whatever year is pertinent -- is how we should list it. How it was done in 2002 is irrelevant if they've changed their methodology. Ravenswing 20:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
From what it looks like, the rule is very clear. But someone along the line assumed that goal difference was the tiebreaker. Kingjeff 20:23, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Is the tiebreaking formula the only tiebreaking rule?
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