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I was involved in this riot and it was in no sense a race riot. I am white as were a huge number of the rioters. Could some kindly admin rename this article '1985 Brixton riot' please? That would be far more historically accurate. Thanks. SmokeyTheCat •TALK• 21:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree that it should be restored to its old name... if only because the riots are now popularly known as the Brixton riots. It would also be a more neutral title. Many riots have multiple causes and manifestations and these are best covered in the article itself.-- SasiSasi ( talk) 23:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Rereading the articles 1981 and 1985 Brixton riots; and 1981 English race riots - that needs to be moved too. All lack context. The 1981 riots in particular took place in an atmosphere where new laws had been introduced and new powers given to police officers that had a disproportionate impact on the black and asian communities. A tory government was in power that sought to move cash from supporting the inner cities to the shires; and who blamed the local councils - often labour - and residents for their own condition.
Basically, the context was a powder keg. The articles, as they stand, only really deal with the individual sparks that set off the unrest. The articles also lack references. Although Leech offers a viewpoint, there should be plenty of background material in the Scarman report. Each of the Brixton riots were commented on (extensively) by the Brixton Council of Churches and London Churches Group; it should be possible to chase down some of that material.
If I remember correctly, there were also political consequences, in that the MPS instigated avenues of community consultation that began to address some of the institutional racism issues.
Any thoughts? Kbthompson ( talk) 09:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
The article is tagged as lacking neutrality and needing a general clean-up and editors are advised to see the discussion on the Talk Page but I can see no reference to either of these issues here. No-one seems to dispute the neutrality and what is meant by a 'clean-up' ? If no-one can enlighten me on either of these issues I will remove the tags soon, Smokey TheCat 07:06, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
The entry reads ""...Mrs. Groce was in bed when the police began their search. Michael Groce was not there at the time of the shooting, and Mrs. Groce was paralysed below the waist by the police bullet." It lacks any actual information about the shooting itself. Was Mrs. Groce asleep in bed when she was shot? Was she attacking the police with a machine gun? -something in-between the two? Surely more could be fleshed out (so to speak) about the incident in question. Bricology ( talk) 22:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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I was involved in this riot and it was in no sense a race riot. I am white as were a huge number of the rioters. Could some kindly admin rename this article '1985 Brixton riot' please? That would be far more historically accurate. Thanks. SmokeyTheCat •TALK• 21:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree that it should be restored to its old name... if only because the riots are now popularly known as the Brixton riots. It would also be a more neutral title. Many riots have multiple causes and manifestations and these are best covered in the article itself.-- SasiSasi ( talk) 23:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Rereading the articles 1981 and 1985 Brixton riots; and 1981 English race riots - that needs to be moved too. All lack context. The 1981 riots in particular took place in an atmosphere where new laws had been introduced and new powers given to police officers that had a disproportionate impact on the black and asian communities. A tory government was in power that sought to move cash from supporting the inner cities to the shires; and who blamed the local councils - often labour - and residents for their own condition.
Basically, the context was a powder keg. The articles, as they stand, only really deal with the individual sparks that set off the unrest. The articles also lack references. Although Leech offers a viewpoint, there should be plenty of background material in the Scarman report. Each of the Brixton riots were commented on (extensively) by the Brixton Council of Churches and London Churches Group; it should be possible to chase down some of that material.
If I remember correctly, there were also political consequences, in that the MPS instigated avenues of community consultation that began to address some of the institutional racism issues.
Any thoughts? Kbthompson ( talk) 09:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
The article is tagged as lacking neutrality and needing a general clean-up and editors are advised to see the discussion on the Talk Page but I can see no reference to either of these issues here. No-one seems to dispute the neutrality and what is meant by a 'clean-up' ? If no-one can enlighten me on either of these issues I will remove the tags soon, Smokey TheCat 07:06, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
The entry reads ""...Mrs. Groce was in bed when the police began their search. Michael Groce was not there at the time of the shooting, and Mrs. Groce was paralysed below the waist by the police bullet." It lacks any actual information about the shooting itself. Was Mrs. Groce asleep in bed when she was shot? Was she attacking the police with a machine gun? -something in-between the two? Surely more could be fleshed out (so to speak) about the incident in question. Bricology ( talk) 22:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Is it that our National Health Service might have done a dis-service? Please Help. Thanks!
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Please change to Brixton Uprising, not Brixton riots 213.205.200.49 ( talk) 21:39, 4 February 2022 (UTC)