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This bit is a little dramatic, isn't it? The CN Tower is bigger than that. Adam Bishop ( talk) 14:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
(Re above comments), the tsunami is not a myth or an exaggeration by over-excited parties. It is well documented by reliable sources, including the Geological Survey of Canada. [1] [2] [3] [4] Also covered in the BBC's Ten things you didn't know about Tsunamis. The wave was the world's largest at 1720 feet / 525m [5], higher than any building on earth. The stats are not refuted or in question in any sources that I have found. Span ( talk) 23:26, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
{{geodata-check}}
The following coordinate fixes are needed for Lituya Bay
58.662700, -137.490745
— 65.60.177.124 ( talk) 00:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
I think I have resolved the issue that I mentioned three years ago by including the words "Alaska" and "earthquake" in the title (a few sources that I looked at labeled the earthquake the "1958 Alaska earthquake"). The move that I just made looks like this: 1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami → 1958 Lituya Bay, Alaska earthquake and megatsunami. Dawnseeker2000 07:21, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
In the lead paragraph, the article says the earthquake "triggered a rockfall of 2,000 feet (30 million cubic metres, 40 million cubic yards, and about 90 million tons) to fall from several hundred metres...." Just what is the 2,000 referring to? I looked at the ref, but didn't find that number mentioned. Is it the altitude of the head of the rockslide? It's not the height of the fall, which is stated immediately following. If anyone has a clue, please add some clarification. Thanks. — Gorthian ( talk) 22:13, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
I've removed one reference that was cited four times and am putting it here:
The problem is that this is a bibliography of publications dealing with tsunami hazards in Canada, and the single page that is referenced lists several abstracts of papers published in at least three journals or books; it is not clear which one is meant. Nor does that page support all the statements in the article for which it was cited.
I replaced the reference with {{ citation needed}} in each place it was used.— Gorthian ( talk) 21:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
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Kismetmiss ( talk) 02:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)== dimensions of the waterway ==
The dimensions of the inlets at Lituya Bay are known to effect wave heights, like other inlets/fjords. It constrains the water and increases amplitude. I can't find an easy link to this fact for an online source although it's referenced on the page for Cumbre Vieja. So far I just know it off hand from oceanography but I'll look for something clearer.
Here's on the effects of narrow and/or shallow waterways on tsunamis. Lituya Bay's inlets are a case of this, increasing the wave. If anyone wants to add the information, that's why some question it being a mega-tsunami, it makes the wave more extreme than if it was in open ocean Kismetmiss ( talk) 03:03, 21 July 2018 (UTC). http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Waves/tsunami.html
I checked the USGS event page 1 for this earthquake and the magnitude is at 8.3. I'm not sure if this is a proper revise of the magnitude because of so, there would be some indication that it was upgraded from the 7.8 magnitude, and some references. I come across two sources placing the magnitude at 8.3 here: Fritz, H.M.; Mohammed, F.; Yoo, J (2009). "Lituya Bay Landslide Impact Generated Mega-Tsunami 50th Anniversary". Pure and Applied Geophysics. 166: 153–175. doi: 10.1007/s00024-008-0435-4. and Willi H. Hager; Hermann M. Fritz (2001). "Lituya Bay Case: Rockslide Impact and Wave Run-up" (PDF). The International Journal of The Tsunami Society. 19 (1): 3–22.. Should this article follow the new USGS magnitude or it will remain at 7.8? -- Dora the Axe-plorer ( talk) 05:12, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
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The third referent in the third source links to a defunct archived USGS website. Clicking on the relevant file, it returns a 404 error. Clicking on the original also returned a 404 error. Should be considered for deletion and replacement with an actual resource to support the claims in the article where [3] may be referenced. Jwabeck ( talk) 18:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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on the course page. Student editor(s):
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2003la,
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Zafir Alolade.
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Hi, i am new to wikipedia posting. I would apreciate any feedback that anyone has on this article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Coreymcgrath ( talk • contribs) 06:02, 10 February 2009
This bit is a little dramatic, isn't it? The CN Tower is bigger than that. Adam Bishop ( talk) 14:19, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
(Re above comments), the tsunami is not a myth or an exaggeration by over-excited parties. It is well documented by reliable sources, including the Geological Survey of Canada. [1] [2] [3] [4] Also covered in the BBC's Ten things you didn't know about Tsunamis. The wave was the world's largest at 1720 feet / 525m [5], higher than any building on earth. The stats are not refuted or in question in any sources that I have found. Span ( talk) 23:26, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
{{geodata-check}}
The following coordinate fixes are needed for Lituya Bay
58.662700, -137.490745
— 65.60.177.124 ( talk) 00:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
I think I have resolved the issue that I mentioned three years ago by including the words "Alaska" and "earthquake" in the title (a few sources that I looked at labeled the earthquake the "1958 Alaska earthquake"). The move that I just made looks like this: 1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami → 1958 Lituya Bay, Alaska earthquake and megatsunami. Dawnseeker2000 07:21, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
In the lead paragraph, the article says the earthquake "triggered a rockfall of 2,000 feet (30 million cubic metres, 40 million cubic yards, and about 90 million tons) to fall from several hundred metres...." Just what is the 2,000 referring to? I looked at the ref, but didn't find that number mentioned. Is it the altitude of the head of the rockslide? It's not the height of the fall, which is stated immediately following. If anyone has a clue, please add some clarification. Thanks. — Gorthian ( talk) 22:13, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
I've removed one reference that was cited four times and am putting it here:
The problem is that this is a bibliography of publications dealing with tsunami hazards in Canada, and the single page that is referenced lists several abstracts of papers published in at least three journals or books; it is not clear which one is meant. Nor does that page support all the statements in the article for which it was cited.
I replaced the reference with {{ citation needed}} in each place it was used.— Gorthian ( talk) 21:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
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Kismetmiss ( talk) 02:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)== dimensions of the waterway ==
The dimensions of the inlets at Lituya Bay are known to effect wave heights, like other inlets/fjords. It constrains the water and increases amplitude. I can't find an easy link to this fact for an online source although it's referenced on the page for Cumbre Vieja. So far I just know it off hand from oceanography but I'll look for something clearer.
Here's on the effects of narrow and/or shallow waterways on tsunamis. Lituya Bay's inlets are a case of this, increasing the wave. If anyone wants to add the information, that's why some question it being a mega-tsunami, it makes the wave more extreme than if it was in open ocean Kismetmiss ( talk) 03:03, 21 July 2018 (UTC). http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Waves/tsunami.html
I checked the USGS event page 1 for this earthquake and the magnitude is at 8.3. I'm not sure if this is a proper revise of the magnitude because of so, there would be some indication that it was upgraded from the 7.8 magnitude, and some references. I come across two sources placing the magnitude at 8.3 here: Fritz, H.M.; Mohammed, F.; Yoo, J (2009). "Lituya Bay Landslide Impact Generated Mega-Tsunami 50th Anniversary". Pure and Applied Geophysics. 166: 153–175. doi: 10.1007/s00024-008-0435-4. and Willi H. Hager; Hermann M. Fritz (2001). "Lituya Bay Case: Rockslide Impact and Wave Run-up" (PDF). The International Journal of The Tsunami Society. 19 (1): 3–22.. Should this article follow the new USGS magnitude or it will remain at 7.8? -- Dora the Axe-plorer ( talk) 05:12, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 19 January 2023 and 9 May 2023. Further details are available
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— Assignment last updated by Bendoncaramel ( talk) 13:20, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
The third referent in the third source links to a defunct archived USGS website. Clicking on the relevant file, it returns a 404 error. Clicking on the original also returned a 404 error. Should be considered for deletion and replacement with an actual resource to support the claims in the article where [3] may be referenced. Jwabeck ( talk) 18:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)