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Nice work @
Habst:. The only issue is that there needs to be a citation at the end of the following paragraph:
BeanieFan11 (
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As the race advanced through Framingham and Natick, Hughson had built up a lead but was still closely tailed by Caffrey. 45 minutes in, Hughson passed the Natick town hall about 100 yards (91 m) ahead of Caffrey. McDonald at this point was 75 yards (69 m) behind Caffrey, and Sammy Mellor and Davis were running in fourth and fifth 1⁄3 mile (0.54 km) behind McDonald.
(Every paragraph needs to have a citation for DYK).
Cool article ~ fascinating. A possible discrepancy, though, that i can't correct because i'm not sure of the facts: Is there one man Caffrey, or are there two? He is called (and wlinked) John P. Caffrey in the lead, then a John J. Caffrey takes an early lead, then Caffrey runs all through, until a quote from the Buffalo Courier calls him J. J. Caffrey and the picture from the Boston Globe by that quote calls him John J. Caffrey again. If he's one man, the initials need to be cleared up, if there were two of them that needs to be clearer. Happy days, ~ Lindsay H ello 05:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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I'll do spotchecks next, probably later today. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 10:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
It’s really hard to find proper information, even from the official websites or Wikipedia, which is the ‘shortest way’ to have results.and the context is it's in a paragraph justifying the existence of the site – it never says that data is sourced from Wikipedia, in fact it says the opposite, that Wikipedia is a bad source for results and that's why he made the website. It's created by the Turkish sports journalist Şevket Furkan Erbay who has worked at several different traditional media outlets in the past to establish his credibility. It's also not a one-man operation as there are at least five editors and two verifiers according to the list of contributors.
Spotchecks. Footnotes refer to this version.
After the first one came up with a minor issue I decided to check half a dozen to be on the safe side. They all came up clean, so once the close paraphrasing for the first one is first the spotcheck is passed.
I'll read through and add further comments, probably later today. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 12:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Comments:
That's everything. OK on the source questions per your comments above -- I think there might be more questions if you were to take this to FAC, but for GA I think they're fine. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 15:52, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Could a section about the route be added to this article? This seems like basic information required for GA class. (@ Mike Christie @ Habst) – Editør ( talk) 08:12, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
There are fewer competitors listed in the Results section than in the 1901 news article, so I was curious what the selection was based on-- Yes, it seems like times and positions were only officially recorded for the top eight as only those places received prizes. The other four people listed in the Results table are only there because I found direct proof that they started the race – there were definitely other starters, per the starting line photo showing dozens of people, but I wasn't able to verify or even guess their names.
The route description should probably share source reference #9. I'm not sure the route works in this quoted form, it would probably benefit from paraphrasing, explaining, and linking.-- The reference is Done, thanks. That was some great work on understanding the map. I hope you don't mind I've posted a link to WP:Requested maps here so hopefully we can get an image made to further explain it.
Was the B.A.A. the organizer of the event?-- Yes, to my knowledge the B.A.A. has organized every Boston Marathon since the first one, when it was called the "Boston Athletic Association race". -- Habst ( talk) 12:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Could you explain the B.A.A. abbreviation and add the organizer (with source) in the article?-- Done in the lede, thanks. Re: the other two notes about the route, they are helpful, I linked this thread in the map request so that those things can be noted. Thanks, -- Habst ( talk) 14:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Some other things you might want to look at:
– Editør ( talk) 16:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
1901 Boston Marathon has been listed as one of the
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A fact from 1901 Boston Marathon appeared on Wikipedia's
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Did you know column on 19 May 2024 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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The result was: promoted by
AirshipJungleman29
talk
01:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Habst ( talk) 20:44, 17 April 2024 (UTC).
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Nice work @
Habst:. The only issue is that there needs to be a citation at the end of the following paragraph:
BeanieFan11 (
talk)
02:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
As the race advanced through Framingham and Natick, Hughson had built up a lead but was still closely tailed by Caffrey. 45 minutes in, Hughson passed the Natick town hall about 100 yards (91 m) ahead of Caffrey. McDonald at this point was 75 yards (69 m) behind Caffrey, and Sammy Mellor and Davis were running in fourth and fifth 1⁄3 mile (0.54 km) behind McDonald.
(Every paragraph needs to have a citation for DYK).
Cool article ~ fascinating. A possible discrepancy, though, that i can't correct because i'm not sure of the facts: Is there one man Caffrey, or are there two? He is called (and wlinked) John P. Caffrey in the lead, then a John J. Caffrey takes an early lead, then Caffrey runs all through, until a quote from the Buffalo Courier calls him J. J. Caffrey and the picture from the Boston Globe by that quote calls him John J. Caffrey again. If he's one man, the initials need to be cleared up, if there were two of them that needs to be clearer. Happy days, ~ Lindsay H ello 05:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Nominator: Habst ( talk · contribs) 22:35, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Mike Christie ( talk · contribs) 00:45, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
I'll review this.
Mike Christie (
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contribs -
library)
00:45, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
I'll do spotchecks next, probably later today. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 10:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
It’s really hard to find proper information, even from the official websites or Wikipedia, which is the ‘shortest way’ to have results.and the context is it's in a paragraph justifying the existence of the site – it never says that data is sourced from Wikipedia, in fact it says the opposite, that Wikipedia is a bad source for results and that's why he made the website. It's created by the Turkish sports journalist Şevket Furkan Erbay who has worked at several different traditional media outlets in the past to establish his credibility. It's also not a one-man operation as there are at least five editors and two verifiers according to the list of contributors.
Spotchecks. Footnotes refer to this version.
After the first one came up with a minor issue I decided to check half a dozen to be on the safe side. They all came up clean, so once the close paraphrasing for the first one is first the spotcheck is passed.
I'll read through and add further comments, probably later today. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 12:30, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Comments:
That's everything. OK on the source questions per your comments above -- I think there might be more questions if you were to take this to FAC, but for GA I think they're fine. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 15:52, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Could a section about the route be added to this article? This seems like basic information required for GA class. (@ Mike Christie @ Habst) – Editør ( talk) 08:12, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
There are fewer competitors listed in the Results section than in the 1901 news article, so I was curious what the selection was based on-- Yes, it seems like times and positions were only officially recorded for the top eight as only those places received prizes. The other four people listed in the Results table are only there because I found direct proof that they started the race – there were definitely other starters, per the starting line photo showing dozens of people, but I wasn't able to verify or even guess their names.
The route description should probably share source reference #9. I'm not sure the route works in this quoted form, it would probably benefit from paraphrasing, explaining, and linking.-- The reference is Done, thanks. That was some great work on understanding the map. I hope you don't mind I've posted a link to WP:Requested maps here so hopefully we can get an image made to further explain it.
Was the B.A.A. the organizer of the event?-- Yes, to my knowledge the B.A.A. has organized every Boston Marathon since the first one, when it was called the "Boston Athletic Association race". -- Habst ( talk) 12:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Could you explain the B.A.A. abbreviation and add the organizer (with source) in the article?-- Done in the lede, thanks. Re: the other two notes about the route, they are helpful, I linked this thread in the map request so that those things can be noted. Thanks, -- Habst ( talk) 14:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Some other things you might want to look at:
– Editør ( talk) 16:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)