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I was taught another translation for the word Ananda.
Ananda is a circle of positivity.
Joy, Bliss, Love, and Peace.
Without Joy, you cannot experience Bliss. Without Bliss, you cannot experience Love. Without Love, you cannot experience Peace. Peace brings Joy.
Glory be upon Ananda! -ALEXXXTH
Below, on the left, is a paragraph from this current article juxtaposed with, on the right, similar text from Hecker (1980/2006) (retrieved from "Access to Insight" (ATI) at http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/hecker/wheel273.html):
In view of the abundance of praise, recognition and privileges Änanda received, mutterings of envy and resentment might have been expected, but this was not the case at all. Änanda had so occupied subordinating his entire life to the Dhamma that fame had no influence over him. He knew that all that was good in him was due to the influence of the Teaching, and so avoided pride. One who is never proud has no enemies and is not the subject of envy. If someone turns inward completely and keeps away from any social contact, as Änanda's brother Anuruddha did, then it is also easy to be without enemies. But Änanda had daily contact with a large number of people with regard to diverse matters, yet he had no enemies or rivals, and his relationships with others were without conflict or tension. |
In view of this abundance of praise, recognition and privileges, mutterings of envy and resentment could have been expected. But this was not the case at all. He was a man who had no enemies. This rare advantage had not come to him without a cause, but had been enjoyed by him not only in this life but also in many previous existences. Ananda was so much taken up by subordinating his entire life to the Dhamma, that fame could not touch him and make him proud. He knew that all that was good in him was due to the influence of the Teaching. When seen in this way, there can be no pride. One who cannot be proud, has no enemies, and such a one does not meet with envy. If someone turns inward completely and keeps away from any social contact, as Ananda's brother Anuruddha did, then it is easy to be without enemies. But if someone like Ananda, who had daily contact with a large number of people with regard to diverse matters, lives without enemies, without rivals, without conflict and tensions, it borders on a miracle. This quality is truly a measure of Ananda's uniqueness. |
This copy was done in good faith, not appreciating the difference between WP's need for GFDL-compliance and ATI's generous but non-GFDL-compliant copyright. However, given the different WP and ATI policies, this copied material as it currently stands might be indicative of a potential copyright violation. Thus, to avoid such a violation, I am deleting the aforementioned paragraph from this article. If someone would like to wordsmith the deleted paragraph and then tag it with a reference to the Hecker article, I would welcome and applaud this. I hope my action here is not seen as faulty. With metta, Larry Rosenfeld ( talk) 03:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Here's another nearly verbatim copy (WP on left; Hecker, 1980/2006, on the right):
During the period he was the Buddha's attendant, though he was still a "learner" and "one in the higher training", no thoughts of lust or hate arose in him; this is seen as implying that his close connection with the Buddha and his devotion to him gave no room for these. |
During this period, though he was still a "learner," "one in the higher training," no thoughts of lust or hate arose in him; the implication being that his close connection with the Buddha and his devotion to him gave no room for these. |
So again, I'm going to delete this text to avoid a copyright violation. Again, if anyone with more skill than myself would like to rephrase and appropriate reference-tag this text, I would applaud your effort. Best wishes, Larry Rosenfeld ( talk) 03:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Dhammapal 04:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
This article quotes MN 90 without identifying the source. What is MN? Does it stand for Majjhima Nikaya? If so, it should be linked there. I'd do it myself, but I'll leave it for someone actually familiar with the subject, so as to avoid making a false assumption, a mistake. Thanks. LordAmeth ( talk) 16:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Sorry. I wasn't assuming good faiths when removing the image of Richard Wagner, and hence the edit summary. But honestly, I don't think it's appropriate since MOS:IMAGES states clearly that Images must be significant and relevant in the topic's context, not primarily decorative. They are often an important illustrative aid to understanding. In this case, Richard Wagner is just one of several thousands of artists who did some artworks about Ananda (i.e. not significant) and his image itself neither relates to Ananda nor aids to understanding. To me, it is just weird to have a Western artist's image on a Buddhist Arahat's page, in the same way as it would be weird to have a Xi JinPing's painting on Jesus page because Xi said something about Christianity. 24.172.241.150 ( talk) 18:13, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
@ Farang Rak Tham: regarding this revert, the article does not mention that Änanda is specifically a patriarch of Zen Buddhism so the article does not belong in Category:Zen patriarchs. If Änanda is a patriarch of Buddhism in general the article should be put in a more general category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
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![]() | A fact from Änanda appeared on Wikipedia's
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check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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I was taught another translation for the word Ananda.
Ananda is a circle of positivity.
Joy, Bliss, Love, and Peace.
Without Joy, you cannot experience Bliss. Without Bliss, you cannot experience Love. Without Love, you cannot experience Peace. Peace brings Joy.
Glory be upon Ananda! -ALEXXXTH
Below, on the left, is a paragraph from this current article juxtaposed with, on the right, similar text from Hecker (1980/2006) (retrieved from "Access to Insight" (ATI) at http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/hecker/wheel273.html):
In view of the abundance of praise, recognition and privileges Änanda received, mutterings of envy and resentment might have been expected, but this was not the case at all. Änanda had so occupied subordinating his entire life to the Dhamma that fame had no influence over him. He knew that all that was good in him was due to the influence of the Teaching, and so avoided pride. One who is never proud has no enemies and is not the subject of envy. If someone turns inward completely and keeps away from any social contact, as Änanda's brother Anuruddha did, then it is also easy to be without enemies. But Änanda had daily contact with a large number of people with regard to diverse matters, yet he had no enemies or rivals, and his relationships with others were without conflict or tension. |
In view of this abundance of praise, recognition and privileges, mutterings of envy and resentment could have been expected. But this was not the case at all. He was a man who had no enemies. This rare advantage had not come to him without a cause, but had been enjoyed by him not only in this life but also in many previous existences. Ananda was so much taken up by subordinating his entire life to the Dhamma, that fame could not touch him and make him proud. He knew that all that was good in him was due to the influence of the Teaching. When seen in this way, there can be no pride. One who cannot be proud, has no enemies, and such a one does not meet with envy. If someone turns inward completely and keeps away from any social contact, as Ananda's brother Anuruddha did, then it is easy to be without enemies. But if someone like Ananda, who had daily contact with a large number of people with regard to diverse matters, lives without enemies, without rivals, without conflict and tensions, it borders on a miracle. This quality is truly a measure of Ananda's uniqueness. |
This copy was done in good faith, not appreciating the difference between WP's need for GFDL-compliance and ATI's generous but non-GFDL-compliant copyright. However, given the different WP and ATI policies, this copied material as it currently stands might be indicative of a potential copyright violation. Thus, to avoid such a violation, I am deleting the aforementioned paragraph from this article. If someone would like to wordsmith the deleted paragraph and then tag it with a reference to the Hecker article, I would welcome and applaud this. I hope my action here is not seen as faulty. With metta, Larry Rosenfeld ( talk) 03:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Here's another nearly verbatim copy (WP on left; Hecker, 1980/2006, on the right):
During the period he was the Buddha's attendant, though he was still a "learner" and "one in the higher training", no thoughts of lust or hate arose in him; this is seen as implying that his close connection with the Buddha and his devotion to him gave no room for these. |
During this period, though he was still a "learner," "one in the higher training," no thoughts of lust or hate arose in him; the implication being that his close connection with the Buddha and his devotion to him gave no room for these. |
So again, I'm going to delete this text to avoid a copyright violation. Again, if anyone with more skill than myself would like to rephrase and appropriate reference-tag this text, I would applaud your effort. Best wishes, Larry Rosenfeld ( talk) 03:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Dhammapal 04:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
This article quotes MN 90 without identifying the source. What is MN? Does it stand for Majjhima Nikaya? If so, it should be linked there. I'd do it myself, but I'll leave it for someone actually familiar with the subject, so as to avoid making a false assumption, a mistake. Thanks. LordAmeth ( talk) 16:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Sorry. I wasn't assuming good faiths when removing the image of Richard Wagner, and hence the edit summary. But honestly, I don't think it's appropriate since MOS:IMAGES states clearly that Images must be significant and relevant in the topic's context, not primarily decorative. They are often an important illustrative aid to understanding. In this case, Richard Wagner is just one of several thousands of artists who did some artworks about Ananda (i.e. not significant) and his image itself neither relates to Ananda nor aids to understanding. To me, it is just weird to have a Western artist's image on a Buddhist Arahat's page, in the same way as it would be weird to have a Xi JinPing's painting on Jesus page because Xi said something about Christianity. 24.172.241.150 ( talk) 18:13, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
@ Farang Rak Tham: regarding this revert, the article does not mention that Änanda is specifically a patriarch of Zen Buddhism so the article does not belong in Category:Zen patriarchs. If Änanda is a patriarch of Buddhism in general the article should be put in a more general category. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)