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According to NobelPrize.org the date of birth is 16 may. Recources from the article also state the date of birth at may 16. How valid is 15 of may, especially 03 may old style? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.45.16.198 ( talk) 12:30, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
He is also known as "Elie Metchnikoff" (in Encyclopedia Britannica, and Microbe Hunters, for example) Souldn't this be noted? Kaplanoah ( talk) 18:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
It's instructive to see the range of redirects this article glories in:
Is any of them better than what we have at the moment? Hmm, let’s see.
When I read the passage "Mechnikov also developed a theory that aging is caused by toxic bacteria in the gut and that lactic acid could prolong life. Based on his theory, he drank sour milk every day. He died in 1916 at 71 years of age (well above the average life expectancy of the general population at the time and a slightly more than other notable scientists of his time)", I thought 'what an odd detail to spend so many words on'. When, afterwards, the Yakult brand popped up, I understood.
The effects claimed by Yakult and other probiotics on the immune system and longevity are largely unproven, which does not keep it from being huge business, sustained by vague claims in the absence of hard scientific evidence.
The above is one. Let's face it: in the 19th century, the wealthy and educated lived longer, and it is higly unlikely that lactic acid consumption has anything to do with that. Mechnikov's natural life was probably not significantly longer than that of fellow scientists of his time, and well within statistical error margins--"probably", since to my knowledge no-one has ever bothered to draw up age statistics among notable 18th-century scientists.
I'll bet anyone ten to one that this tidbit of information, for which of course no source is quoted, was sneaked into this article by Yakult itself.
I say get rid of it, and at least remove the suggestion that his age had anything to do with his probiotics use until there is reliable scientific data to back up this claim. Wikipedia is not here to advertise Yakult.
Agree?-- Roger Pilgham ( talk) 12:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Reading H.G. Wells's God, the Invisible King, he makes reference to Mechnikov's (Metchnikoff in Wells) views on atheism expressed in The Nature of Man, something which this article does not appear to address. As atheism appears, at least from Wells, to have been a major aspect of The Nature of Man and there is no separate article on this work the present time, I think it would be prudent to add something on the matter. Maybe somebody who is more knowledgeable on Mechnikov could make this inclusion?
Passercatulli ( talk) 01:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
The man who first used the term gerontology, ... Ryoung122 15:43, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved per request. - GTBacchus( talk) 15:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Ilya Ilyich Mechnikov → Élie Metchnikoff — This was the spelling he used in the West, and is how he's usually referenced. See more details at Alternate Spelling above, where this page move was first mooted. Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 20:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
193.169.80.41 ( talk · contribs) is edit warring on this page. He is citing his changes in his edit summary, instead of in the article body, and his reference is a picture of a Russian-language book. I am up to 3 reverts myself on this article today, just wanted to inform other editors as to what is going on. To 193.169.80.41 ( talk · contribs): Please use inline citations for your edits, and make sure you cite a verifiable, reliable source for your contrubution. — Josh3580 talk/ hist 21:12, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
It seems that Metchnikoff had also the French nationality Is it correct ? Should it be mentioned here ? -- Gregopim ( talk) 12:31, 25 November 2015 (UTC) Metchnikoff never took on a French nationality. His wife Olga did become a French national, but long after his death. 27 December 2025, Lubav77 Lubav77 ( talk) 20:52, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
There is also confusion about Metchnikoff's date of death. The reason is that in his biography, his wife Olga is unclear about dates when she writes about his death, autopsy and cremation. I have just completed Metchnikoff's biography, the result of ten years of research, and have a copy of his death certificate from La Marie du Quinzieme Arrondissement de Paris. It states his date of death as 5:30 pm, July 15, 1916. 27 December 2015 lubav77 Lubav77 ( talk) 15:43, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. The book is already cited, see Reference 2, and not necessary to add again in the Further Reading. External link to the page is added—unsigned comment by user:Chhandama 05:46, 22 February 2016 (UTC) |
Please add my new biography of Metchnikoff to Further Reading: Vikhanski, Luba (2016). Immunity: How Elie Metchnikoff Changed the Course of Modern Medicine. Chicago Review Press. ISBN: 978-1613731109. A new biography, using previously inaccessible archival material.
Photos from places in which Metchnikoff lived and worked — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lubav77 ( talk • contribs) 18:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
I ran across a news article about a Russian vaccine manufacture called "Metchnikoff". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.78.56.88 ( talk) 06:34, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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Per one of the sources already cited in the article, Metchnikoff did anthropological work in the Kalmuk stepps and concluded that "[the] development of Mongol natives was arrested in comparison with that of the Caucasian race." Including this in the article. 2600:1700:A419:8030:400D:9067:2D36:A965 ( talk) 01:02, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
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According to NobelPrize.org the date of birth is 16 may. Recources from the article also state the date of birth at may 16. How valid is 15 of may, especially 03 may old style? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.45.16.198 ( talk) 12:30, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
He is also known as "Elie Metchnikoff" (in Encyclopedia Britannica, and Microbe Hunters, for example) Souldn't this be noted? Kaplanoah ( talk) 18:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
It's instructive to see the range of redirects this article glories in:
Is any of them better than what we have at the moment? Hmm, let’s see.
When I read the passage "Mechnikov also developed a theory that aging is caused by toxic bacteria in the gut and that lactic acid could prolong life. Based on his theory, he drank sour milk every day. He died in 1916 at 71 years of age (well above the average life expectancy of the general population at the time and a slightly more than other notable scientists of his time)", I thought 'what an odd detail to spend so many words on'. When, afterwards, the Yakult brand popped up, I understood.
The effects claimed by Yakult and other probiotics on the immune system and longevity are largely unproven, which does not keep it from being huge business, sustained by vague claims in the absence of hard scientific evidence.
The above is one. Let's face it: in the 19th century, the wealthy and educated lived longer, and it is higly unlikely that lactic acid consumption has anything to do with that. Mechnikov's natural life was probably not significantly longer than that of fellow scientists of his time, and well within statistical error margins--"probably", since to my knowledge no-one has ever bothered to draw up age statistics among notable 18th-century scientists.
I'll bet anyone ten to one that this tidbit of information, for which of course no source is quoted, was sneaked into this article by Yakult itself.
I say get rid of it, and at least remove the suggestion that his age had anything to do with his probiotics use until there is reliable scientific data to back up this claim. Wikipedia is not here to advertise Yakult.
Agree?-- Roger Pilgham ( talk) 12:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Reading H.G. Wells's God, the Invisible King, he makes reference to Mechnikov's (Metchnikoff in Wells) views on atheism expressed in The Nature of Man, something which this article does not appear to address. As atheism appears, at least from Wells, to have been a major aspect of The Nature of Man and there is no separate article on this work the present time, I think it would be prudent to add something on the matter. Maybe somebody who is more knowledgeable on Mechnikov could make this inclusion?
Passercatulli ( talk) 01:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
The man who first used the term gerontology, ... Ryoung122 15:43, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved per request. - GTBacchus( talk) 15:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Ilya Ilyich Mechnikov → Élie Metchnikoff — This was the spelling he used in the West, and is how he's usually referenced. See more details at Alternate Spelling above, where this page move was first mooted. Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 20:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
193.169.80.41 ( talk · contribs) is edit warring on this page. He is citing his changes in his edit summary, instead of in the article body, and his reference is a picture of a Russian-language book. I am up to 3 reverts myself on this article today, just wanted to inform other editors as to what is going on. To 193.169.80.41 ( talk · contribs): Please use inline citations for your edits, and make sure you cite a verifiable, reliable source for your contrubution. — Josh3580 talk/ hist 21:12, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
It seems that Metchnikoff had also the French nationality Is it correct ? Should it be mentioned here ? -- Gregopim ( talk) 12:31, 25 November 2015 (UTC) Metchnikoff never took on a French nationality. His wife Olga did become a French national, but long after his death. 27 December 2025, Lubav77 Lubav77 ( talk) 20:52, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
There is also confusion about Metchnikoff's date of death. The reason is that in his biography, his wife Olga is unclear about dates when she writes about his death, autopsy and cremation. I have just completed Metchnikoff's biography, the result of ten years of research, and have a copy of his death certificate from La Marie du Quinzieme Arrondissement de Paris. It states his date of death as 5:30 pm, July 15, 1916. 27 December 2015 lubav77 Lubav77 ( talk) 15:43, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. The book is already cited, see Reference 2, and not necessary to add again in the Further Reading. External link to the page is added—unsigned comment by user:Chhandama 05:46, 22 February 2016 (UTC) |
Please add my new biography of Metchnikoff to Further Reading: Vikhanski, Luba (2016). Immunity: How Elie Metchnikoff Changed the Course of Modern Medicine. Chicago Review Press. ISBN: 978-1613731109. A new biography, using previously inaccessible archival material.
Photos from places in which Metchnikoff lived and worked — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lubav77 ( talk • contribs) 18:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
I ran across a news article about a Russian vaccine manufacture called "Metchnikoff". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.78.56.88 ( talk) 06:34, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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Per one of the sources already cited in the article, Metchnikoff did anthropological work in the Kalmuk stepps and concluded that "[the] development of Mongol natives was arrested in comparison with that of the Caucasian race." Including this in the article. 2600:1700:A419:8030:400D:9067:2D36:A965 ( talk) 01:02, 28 December 2022 (UTC)