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"Reception to some aspects of the film appears to vary depending on how well (if at all) the critic is familiar with the TV series. A number of critics, for example, cast scorn on the character of Sithandra who is shown to be a woman who has replaced her feet with a second set of hands, even though this character actually appeared in the original TV series."
I don't know what point the author of this paragraph was trying to make. Is it being suggested that if the critic was familiar with the TV series, then this character would not be the object of scorn? Is there any reason to believe that? Can someone clean this up? 213.168.230.149 23:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed this paragraph. Keithmahoney 01:28, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
In what is always a very bad sign, Paramount has decided not to screen Aeon Flux in advance for critics. This is usually a sign that the film will be an absolute stinker, and that they are trying to make a quick buck opening weekend before being savaged by the press. Despite the lack of press screenings, it still could be a mindlessly entertaining action flick. [1]
Should we note this?
-- vossman 04:39, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Reply: Not right now. The movie opens tomorrow, and if the reaction is bad, then it should be posted that there was little confidence in the movie before it came out.
-- Jhessela, December 01, 2005
7his problem came up for the Final Fantasy 7 movie as well. "If you know what they are talking about it’s good.” Critics NEED to be fans or at least watch what these movies are based on and not just research it. We either need to get better critics or have them all play 8-bit video games to remember what plot line is all about. MajinPalgen 14:50, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
8eautyful, 4lex you’re a mind reader. But these “in the know” lines and scenes establish a universe. Final Fantasy and Star Wars have done it to the point that you’re looking and waiting for them. It’s about 8 1/2 hours to watch every 4Eon + Critics are PAID for their observation and interpretation. I’d be happy if they would just admit weather they knew the subject or not before they watched and reviewed it. MajinPalgen 13:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm just back from seeing the film and I thought it was much better than I expected. There were some fundimental changes, yes, but at the same time it still felt like Æon Flux. I've seen one negative review criticizing the character with hands for feet -- obviously the reviewer is unaware that character appears in the TV series. So who wants to start off the comparison section? I think there were a number of clear references to the TV series, from the opening shot to the closing shot of the film. 23skidoo 01:06, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I think the movie was substantially different in the storeline than the actual series, but then again, Æon flux the series, has multiple different episodes with different storelines, I consider the movie just an addition to the collection. Like a new episode of sorts. I was definately pleased with the outcome. -- Petiatil 19:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
4Eon in this interpretation is more 3-D, (No that was not a pun) which is good because it would be construed that the lack of feeling was bad acting rather than the part. I’m glad to see 4Eon has stayed objective minded and still has her “gravity problem”. Although what made it all come together was the secret that explained how 4Eon keeps dying and lives life after life. This makes all the deviations and liquid TV come together for this climax. MajinPalgen 14:18, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Are you considering this the low point because a woman having hands for feet is ridiculous looking or pointlessly "cutting edge", or because it is a BLACK woman with hands for feet? Somehow I don't think this would be such an issue with a white woman or man. Seems overly reactionary to me, and worse yet, unnecessarily PC. -Anon. 18:27, 5/12/05
7he original Sithandra was white or at least lacked melanin. I think they changed her ethnicity and had the other ethnic additions to avoide the racial criticism. The last thing they want is someone saying "white people rule the future!" Having Sithandra in the movie made it better in my mind, but I wish they had her do more fighting moves that only someone with hands for feet could do. MajinPalgen 14:26, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
right|thumb|400px One problem I had before I even saw the movie, was that in the previews - and indeed in the movie - the Breen council chamber looked a lot like the Jedi Temple, albiet with more colorful - comfortable - chairs.
Compounding this is the (unnamed) Breen council member who looks - and acts - a lot like Mace Windu. --Bear Eagleson 14:41, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Fans of the film will point out the exquisite taste and truly impressive real-world buildings and settings used in the film, and the delicious minimalist nature of the artificial environment.
This is a very well written article, but I got to this sentence under the "Criticism" section, and I must say this sounds extremely biased. Are all these colourful descriptives praising the look of the film necessary? Sure it reads well, but it almost sounds like a flat-out promotion for the movie. Who's with me?
I have deleted the following paragraph from the article as it is clearly a violation of WP:NPOV. There are some good points made here, however there needs to be sources cited and it needs to be reworked so it doesn't come off as POV gushing. Where, for example, has it been stated that the film has attained cult status? It's only been out for about 6 months. etc.
23skidoo 18:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
>>>"sleeper cult following"??? Give me a break. It's unwatchable. I inflicted it upon myself yesterday and was amazed at how little I could find within the movie to enjoy (and we are talking Charleze T here!!!). I'd rather watch Zardoz again.
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"Despite the conflicting statements made by Chung in later interviews, this is not necessarily an outright lie, it merely indicates that Chung had rightly envisioned that the film would be a disappointment."
- This is original research or plain idiocy. I can't decide which. Madskile ( talk) 06:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
When Æon is sent on a mission to kill the government's leader, Trevor Goodchild (Marton Csokas), she discovers that she is unwittingly playing a part in a secret coup.
One cannot discover that one is "unwittingly" participating in a coup when one has been assigned the task of killing the head of the government; that would be like discovering you've "unwittingly" committed armed robbery after holding up a bank using a gun.
However... I haven't seen the movie, so I can't make the assumption that the above passage is just a clumsy sentence. It's entirely possible that the film actually portrays her as being that obtuse, in which case the passage is perfectly fine; otherwise, it could use some copyediting. JFMorse ( talk) 15:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
She, (as well as the rebel group), has been manipulated by the leader's brother, to kill Trevor Goodchild. The coup described, is Oren against Trevor, not just the rebellion. A coup is an overthrowal by part of the state, not just rebels. -- YB ( talk) 19:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
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The budget was listed as $65 million in the Infobox and the intro but no sources were included.
The Numbers put the budget at $55 million. [3] Box Office Mojo put the budget at $62 million. [4]
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"Reception to some aspects of the film appears to vary depending on how well (if at all) the critic is familiar with the TV series. A number of critics, for example, cast scorn on the character of Sithandra who is shown to be a woman who has replaced her feet with a second set of hands, even though this character actually appeared in the original TV series."
I don't know what point the author of this paragraph was trying to make. Is it being suggested that if the critic was familiar with the TV series, then this character would not be the object of scorn? Is there any reason to believe that? Can someone clean this up? 213.168.230.149 23:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I removed this paragraph. Keithmahoney 01:28, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
In what is always a very bad sign, Paramount has decided not to screen Aeon Flux in advance for critics. This is usually a sign that the film will be an absolute stinker, and that they are trying to make a quick buck opening weekend before being savaged by the press. Despite the lack of press screenings, it still could be a mindlessly entertaining action flick. [1]
Should we note this?
-- vossman 04:39, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Reply: Not right now. The movie opens tomorrow, and if the reaction is bad, then it should be posted that there was little confidence in the movie before it came out.
-- Jhessela, December 01, 2005
7his problem came up for the Final Fantasy 7 movie as well. "If you know what they are talking about it’s good.” Critics NEED to be fans or at least watch what these movies are based on and not just research it. We either need to get better critics or have them all play 8-bit video games to remember what plot line is all about. MajinPalgen 14:50, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
8eautyful, 4lex you’re a mind reader. But these “in the know” lines and scenes establish a universe. Final Fantasy and Star Wars have done it to the point that you’re looking and waiting for them. It’s about 8 1/2 hours to watch every 4Eon + Critics are PAID for their observation and interpretation. I’d be happy if they would just admit weather they knew the subject or not before they watched and reviewed it. MajinPalgen 13:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm just back from seeing the film and I thought it was much better than I expected. There were some fundimental changes, yes, but at the same time it still felt like Æon Flux. I've seen one negative review criticizing the character with hands for feet -- obviously the reviewer is unaware that character appears in the TV series. So who wants to start off the comparison section? I think there were a number of clear references to the TV series, from the opening shot to the closing shot of the film. 23skidoo 01:06, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I think the movie was substantially different in the storeline than the actual series, but then again, Æon flux the series, has multiple different episodes with different storelines, I consider the movie just an addition to the collection. Like a new episode of sorts. I was definately pleased with the outcome. -- Petiatil 19:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
4Eon in this interpretation is more 3-D, (No that was not a pun) which is good because it would be construed that the lack of feeling was bad acting rather than the part. I’m glad to see 4Eon has stayed objective minded and still has her “gravity problem”. Although what made it all come together was the secret that explained how 4Eon keeps dying and lives life after life. This makes all the deviations and liquid TV come together for this climax. MajinPalgen 14:18, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Are you considering this the low point because a woman having hands for feet is ridiculous looking or pointlessly "cutting edge", or because it is a BLACK woman with hands for feet? Somehow I don't think this would be such an issue with a white woman or man. Seems overly reactionary to me, and worse yet, unnecessarily PC. -Anon. 18:27, 5/12/05
7he original Sithandra was white or at least lacked melanin. I think they changed her ethnicity and had the other ethnic additions to avoide the racial criticism. The last thing they want is someone saying "white people rule the future!" Having Sithandra in the movie made it better in my mind, but I wish they had her do more fighting moves that only someone with hands for feet could do. MajinPalgen 14:26, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
right|thumb|400px One problem I had before I even saw the movie, was that in the previews - and indeed in the movie - the Breen council chamber looked a lot like the Jedi Temple, albiet with more colorful - comfortable - chairs.
Compounding this is the (unnamed) Breen council member who looks - and acts - a lot like Mace Windu. --Bear Eagleson 14:41, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Fans of the film will point out the exquisite taste and truly impressive real-world buildings and settings used in the film, and the delicious minimalist nature of the artificial environment.
This is a very well written article, but I got to this sentence under the "Criticism" section, and I must say this sounds extremely biased. Are all these colourful descriptives praising the look of the film necessary? Sure it reads well, but it almost sounds like a flat-out promotion for the movie. Who's with me?
I have deleted the following paragraph from the article as it is clearly a violation of WP:NPOV. There are some good points made here, however there needs to be sources cited and it needs to be reworked so it doesn't come off as POV gushing. Where, for example, has it been stated that the film has attained cult status? It's only been out for about 6 months. etc.
23skidoo 18:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
>>>"sleeper cult following"??? Give me a break. It's unwatchable. I inflicted it upon myself yesterday and was amazed at how little I could find within the movie to enjoy (and we are talking Charleze T here!!!). I'd rather watch Zardoz again.
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"Despite the conflicting statements made by Chung in later interviews, this is not necessarily an outright lie, it merely indicates that Chung had rightly envisioned that the film would be a disappointment."
- This is original research or plain idiocy. I can't decide which. Madskile ( talk) 06:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
When Æon is sent on a mission to kill the government's leader, Trevor Goodchild (Marton Csokas), she discovers that she is unwittingly playing a part in a secret coup.
One cannot discover that one is "unwittingly" participating in a coup when one has been assigned the task of killing the head of the government; that would be like discovering you've "unwittingly" committed armed robbery after holding up a bank using a gun.
However... I haven't seen the movie, so I can't make the assumption that the above passage is just a clumsy sentence. It's entirely possible that the film actually portrays her as being that obtuse, in which case the passage is perfectly fine; otherwise, it could use some copyediting. JFMorse ( talk) 15:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
She, (as well as the rebel group), has been manipulated by the leader's brother, to kill Trevor Goodchild. The coup described, is Oren against Trevor, not just the rebellion. A coup is an overthrowal by part of the state, not just rebels. -- YB ( talk) 19:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Æon Flux which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 23:15, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
The budget was listed as $65 million in the Infobox and the intro but no sources were included.
The Numbers put the budget at $55 million. [3] Box Office Mojo put the budget at $62 million. [4]
It was not clear where the figure of $65 million came from, so I have changed the article to consistently list the budget range of $55-62 million (in the Infobox, the intro, and the box office section). -- 109.79.65.11 ( talk) 23:57, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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