00:0500:05, 2 December 2023diffhist−718
Priority of the Gospel of Marcion
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Veverve (
talk) Hurtado is not a widely regarded scholar, but a conservative Evangelical. Price and Gallagher are not well reputable scholars. Citations should be to reliable sources, particularly peer-reviewed literature wherever it exists. The citations of Roth's work are sufficient. Moreover, The edit mischaracterizes BeDuhn and Klinghardt as having the same view about Marcionite priority when they do not.Tags: UndoReverted
1 December 2023
23:5223:52, 1 December 2023diffhist+3
Gospel of Marcion
yes, several, which is 3-7. Count them up: Tyson (1), Vinzent (2), Klinghardt (3), Gramaglia (4), Nicolotti (5), Gianotto (6), BeDuhn (7). This doesn't count myself or several of Klinghardt's PhD students about to publish on this.
20:2220:22, 21 April 2023diffhist−167
Gospel of Marcion
→Semler hypothesis and Schwegler hypothesis: reworded opening paragraph for clarity; changed "biblical scholars" to "scholars", since many of the scholars working on Marcion's Gospel self-identify as patristics scholars or religion scholars more generally, not "biblical scholars" narrowly defined
14:3314:33, 16 April 2023diffhist+1,101
Gospel of Marcion
added a subheading for the Gospel of Marcion as a two source gospel; this material was previously under the subheading "as a version of Mark", which is inaccurate; also added citations to BeDuhn and Gramaglia, who both make involved arguments for this hypothesis
14:2114:21, 16 April 2023diffhist−7
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Gospel of Marcion
changed two terms to add clarity: "put forth" -> "made" and "second-hand" -> "secondary". Scholars agree that Tertullian, Epiphanius, and Adamantius Dialogue were first-hand witnesses of manuscript(s) of Marcion's Gospel, but their treatises are secondary witnesses.
20:1120:11, 15 April 2023diffhist+826
Penitent thief
added information about the troparion tou deipnou (the most famous hymn about the good thief), a citation to Robert Taft's historical context for that hymn, a new subheading for "Drama" to offset the sentence on Samuel Beckett, and a couple of the most famous and earliest examples of the good thief in art
00:0500:05, 2 December 2023diffhist−718
Priority of the Gospel of Marcion
Undid revision 1181543982 by
Veverve (
talk) Hurtado is not a widely regarded scholar, but a conservative Evangelical. Price and Gallagher are not well reputable scholars. Citations should be to reliable sources, particularly peer-reviewed literature wherever it exists. The citations of Roth's work are sufficient. Moreover, The edit mischaracterizes BeDuhn and Klinghardt as having the same view about Marcionite priority when they do not.Tags: UndoReverted
1 December 2023
23:5223:52, 1 December 2023diffhist+3
Gospel of Marcion
yes, several, which is 3-7. Count them up: Tyson (1), Vinzent (2), Klinghardt (3), Gramaglia (4), Nicolotti (5), Gianotto (6), BeDuhn (7). This doesn't count myself or several of Klinghardt's PhD students about to publish on this.
20:2220:22, 21 April 2023diffhist−167
Gospel of Marcion
→Semler hypothesis and Schwegler hypothesis: reworded opening paragraph for clarity; changed "biblical scholars" to "scholars", since many of the scholars working on Marcion's Gospel self-identify as patristics scholars or religion scholars more generally, not "biblical scholars" narrowly defined
14:3314:33, 16 April 2023diffhist+1,101
Gospel of Marcion
added a subheading for the Gospel of Marcion as a two source gospel; this material was previously under the subheading "as a version of Mark", which is inaccurate; also added citations to BeDuhn and Gramaglia, who both make involved arguments for this hypothesis
14:2114:21, 16 April 2023diffhist−7
m
Gospel of Marcion
changed two terms to add clarity: "put forth" -> "made" and "second-hand" -> "secondary". Scholars agree that Tertullian, Epiphanius, and Adamantius Dialogue were first-hand witnesses of manuscript(s) of Marcion's Gospel, but their treatises are secondary witnesses.
20:1120:11, 15 April 2023diffhist+826
Penitent thief
added information about the troparion tou deipnou (the most famous hymn about the good thief), a citation to Robert Taft's historical context for that hymn, a new subheading for "Drama" to offset the sentence on Samuel Beckett, and a couple of the most famous and earliest examples of the good thief in art