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{{cite journal |last1=Sundquist |first1=Alma |title=Lika lön för lika arbete: varför män böra arbeta för kvinnans politiska rösträtt |journal=Rösträtt för Kvinnor |date=1 April 1913a |volume=2 |issue=7 |pages=1–2 |url=
https://gupea.ub.gu.se/bitstream/2077/462/1/gupea_2077_462_1.pdf |trans-title=Equal Pay for Equal Work: Why Men Should Work for Women's Political Right to Vote |publisher=Landsföreningen för kvinnans politiska rösträtt |location=Stockholm |language=Swedish}}
Doesn't display the 1913a in the date. It does when you preview, but not in live version. Purging doesn't help. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 21:13, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
{{use xxx dates}}
, cs1|2 cannot see that template if you are previewing a section that does not include the {{use xxx dates}}
template. So, because the bug is related to the {{use xxx dates}}
reformatting, previewing the entire page will render the date without the anchor ID disambiguator. Because the date format in the template is the same as specified by {{use xxx dates}}
, it is not obvious that something is wrong except that one little character is missing. In a sea of characters, detecting a missing character is difficult.{{use dmy dates}}
so this should render a disambiguated date in dmy format:
{{cite book/new |title=Title |author=author |date=1913-04-01 |year=1913a}}
{{
cite book}}
: |author=
has generic name (
help)
'"`UNIQ--templatestyles-0000000B-QINU`"'<cite id="CITEREFauthor1913a" class="citation book cs1">author (1 April 1913). ''Title''.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Title&rft.date=1913-04-01&rft.au=author&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AHelp+talk%3ACitation+Style+1%2FArchive+68" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{[[Template:cite book|cite book]]}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">|author=</code> has generic name ([[Help:CS1 errors#generic_name|help]])</span>
Re the {{ Cite web}} and similar templates citing a date: some Web pages cited are kept up-to-date, or updated frequently. When citing a source, it is usual to set the date parameter value to the date when the page was last updated (if stated), with an access-date. It would be useful to have a date value of "updated periodically" or similar (at present I achieve this with a note after the cite web template, e.g. Web page updated continuously.) The purpose of this is to encourage the reader needing latest information to go to the source, rather than accepting that only old information is available. Best wishes, Pol098 ( talk) 13:48, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Is {{cite report}}
actually limited to reports issued by governmental entities, or is it permissible to use it for reports issued by non-governmental corporations? Using {{cite web}}
for scanned images of such reports doesn't feel right, and some such reports are available only on paper.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (
talk) 13:57, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
{{cite report}}
seems to exclude non-governmental entities.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (
talk) 17:27, 7 June 2020 (UTC)|type=Report
as appropriate. Most reports are long enough that the title should appear italics, and all cite report seems to do is not italicize the title and add a default type indicator.
Imzadi 1979
→ 12:52, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
I've been reviewing a draft concerning a company and it has references to a 2-3 minute news segment that has played on NBC Today show and later repeated on NBC Nightly News. Should it be cited with cite news (since it's news), cite AV media (since it's a video), cite episode (as part of a broadcasted news show)? It isn't a live segment, but on one of the shows, it was given like a 30-second introduction by the host. It also has its own producer, editor, and narrator/feature reporter. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 21:26, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
{{
cite news}}
(presuming that the source is a news piece and not merely talking-head jabber). {{cite news}}
supports |time=
and |minutes=
so you can specify when in the video the source supports our article.Because of this discussion at the help desk, I have added Easter as a named date:
{{cite news/new |title=Estate |work=Royal Military College magazine |date=Easter 1925 |pp=116-117}}
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 12:50, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Could a parameter for translated title of the encyclopedia be added to {{ Cite encyclopedia}}? Right now the only translated title parameter available is for the article within the encyclopedia. I noticed this issue at Angel Savov. Thanks! Calliopejen1 ( talk) 18:00, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
{{Cite encyclopedia |last=Тошева |first=Кристина |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=x1kqAQAAIAAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&q=%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BB+%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2&hl=en |entry=Савов, Ангел Сотиров |title=Енциклопедия на българския театър: актьори, режисьори, драматурзи, сценографи, композитори, педагози, хореографи, критици, театри, институции, печат |trans-title=Encyclopedia of Bulgarian Theater |date=2008 |publisher=Trud |isbn=978-954-528-771-8 |language=bg}}
|trans-entry=
:
{{Cite encyclopedia |last=Тошева |first=Кристина |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=x1kqAQAAIAAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&q=%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BB+%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2&hl=en |entry=Савов, Ангел Сотиров |trans-entry=Savov, Angel Sotirov |title=Енциклопедия на българския театър: актьори, режисьори, драматурзи, сценографи, композитори, педагози, хореографи, критици, театри, институции, печат |trans-title=Encyclopedia of Bulgarian Theater |date=2008 |publisher=Trud |isbn=978-954-528-771-8 |language=bg}}
|trans-work=
, which works in other templates, should work in this one too.
Glades12 (
talk) 07:04, 29 June 2020 (UTC)I don't know if this is an error or intended, but if url-status is set to usurped or unfit, hovering the mouse over a <ref> link displays "cs1 maint: unfit (link)" (at least it does with Firefox 77.0.1 on my Win10/64 computer), although this isn't shown in the list of references. Hover over this link (until it's fixed). [1]
Best wishes, Pol098 ( talk) 23:20, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
{{
reflist-talk}}
template. Included in that is the CS1 maint: unfit url (
link) message because I have
maintenance message display enabled – because these messages are, for me, enabled, I see them all the time. This with current version chrome."Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Main Page". English Wikipedia. Archived from the original on 31 March 2018. Retrieved 28 June 2020.CS1 maint: unfit url (link)
<span class="cs1-maint citation-comment">CS1 maint: unfit url (<a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_unfit_url" title="Category:CS1 maint: unfit url">link</a>)</span>
<span>...</span>
tag:
citation-comment
– a user definable class that is used to hide or show all error and maintenance messages on a per-user basis from the user's personal css pagecs1-maint
– defined in
Module:Citation/CS1/styles.css:
.cs1-maint {
display: none;
color: #33aa33;
margin-left: 0.3em;
}
|url=
to the archived URL, and not using |archive-url=
(after searching unsuccessfully for a better reference to the text sourced). I didn't see it again for a long time, but probably never used |url-status=usurped/unfit
. Name the page and the reference. Last night I used this status in
reference 7 of this edit of "Tissot", and got the message as I described. The Wikipedia Main Page example I give above behaved exactly the same as the Tissot page for me (and still does).{{
cite web}}
: |archive-date=
/ |archive-url=
timestamp mismatch; 3 March 2018 suggested (
help)CS1 maint: unfit URL (
link)
This should not give an error. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 12:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
{{cite ssrn/new|title=Die Buchpublikationen der Nobelpreis-Ökonomen und die führenden Buchverlage der Disziplin. Eine bibliometrische Analyse|last1=Tausch|first1=Arno|date=October 15, 2015|language=German|trans-title=The Book Publications of the Nobel-Prize Economists and the Leading Book Publishers of the Discipline. A Bibliometric Analysis|ssrn=2674502}}
Several instances of Cite book isbn parameters are now showing up as red links in my Wikiversity pages. See, for example: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Transcending_Conflict#Further_Reading These have been in place for some time, so I suspect it has something to do with the recent CS1 to CS2 conversion. How can I correct these errors? Thanks! -- Lbeaumont ( talk) 15:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
I would like to cite this document that I found via this page at the National Archives and Records Administration. (The specific use is to cite the high school on page 3 that the subject attended.) It appears as though the NARA acquired the records from the CIA, and there is a bunch of identifying information for the document such as "record number", "record series", "agency file number", and a "DocId" at the bottom of the page. I am wondering which of all that information I should cite. Also, should I use {{cite journal}}) as it appears to have replaced {{cite document}}? Should I note that the document came from the NARA or CIA? Thank you! - Location ( talk) 20:09, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
|others=
. But the form's title includes that information. All of this is an approximation of course. The forms native to cs1/2 do not offer a perfect fit for such a citation. That is why it was suggested that a manual free-form citation may be a good option.
98.0.246.242 (
talk) 01:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)Sorry, bad jokes.
I've been seeing, especially a lot of non-anglosphere articles, the practice of placing a year in |publisher=
. I think it might be useful to have a tracking category for this practice. --
Izno (
talk) 12:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
has a legit DOI. The prefix limit should be increased to 10.50000. Or at least 10.46234. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 18:20, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
{{cite journal/new|doi=10.46234/ccdcw2020.032|title=The Epidemiological Characteristics of an Outbreak of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Diseases (COVID-19) — China, 2020|year=2020|last1=Cdc Weekly|first1=China|journal=China CDC Weekly|volume=2|issue=8|pages=113–122}}
The original discussion has been archived without resolution. Are we keeping quarterly dates in some form? If we are keeping them, what is the definitive list of quarterly date formats that cs1|2 should accept?
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 12:54, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
what is the definitive list of quarterly date formats that cs1|2 should accept?
Before I am willing to entertain what is the definitive list of quarterly date formats that cs1|2 should accept?
I request the metadata be resolved.
The previous discussion used the emission of metadata as a justification for not adding some kind of flag to tell the module to just take the date as-is, and not check it. If we're going to use metadata as an excuse to scream false error messages, we should at least emit correct metadata. I remind all of a comment from the previous discussion by Trappist the monk:
quarter
key/value pair is restricted to journal objects in COinS but may be used for all other objects in OpenURL).1st quarter 2020
into &rft.quarter=1&rft.date=2020
. We went to great effort to eliminate date parts from cs1|2 (|day=
, |month=
) so we should not return to that method with |quarter=1
.I therefore request specification of what metadata will be emitted and under which circumstances. I suggest that the metadata from the 11:33, 17 May 2020 (UTC) post be emitted, but only if the citation is recognized by the module as a citation to a journal (or at most, some periodical, such as a magazine). Otherwise only the year should be emitted. Jc3s5h ( talk) 13:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
{{cite book/new |title=Title |date=Fourth Quarter 1995}}
'"`UNIQ--templatestyles-00000037-QINU`"'<cite class="citation book cs1">''Title''. Fourth Quarter 1995.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Title&rft.date=1995&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AHelp+talk%3ACitation+Style+1%2FArchive+68" class="Z3988"></span>
{{cite magazine/new |title=Title |magazine=Magazine |date=Fourth Quarter 1995}}
'"`UNIQ--templatestyles-0000003B-QINU`"'<cite class="citation magazine cs1">"Title". ''Magazine''. Fourth Quarter 1995.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Magazine&rft.atitle=Title&rft.quarter=4&rft.date=1995&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AHelp+talk%3ACitation+Style+1%2FArchive+68" class="Z3988"></span>
|date=
(only) holds a quarterly date, cs1|2 will emit &rtf.quarter
with a digit 1
–4
specifying the quarter and &rtf.date
specifying the year-portion of the date; no date metadata when |date=
holds an invalid date.[dates] have an inherent order whether we add one of those suffixes or not: 1st quarter precedes 2nd quarter precedes 3rd quarter precedes 4th quarter precedes 1st quarter ... Or, are you saying that we should not support spelled-out forms: 'First', 'Second', 'Third', 'Fourth'?
How can I clarify by using this template that the url-access are only limited to a geographically area like norwegian IP-addresses ? Best regards and a safe and happy summer from Migrant ( talk) 17:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
</ref>
tag to explain the limitation.Please take a look at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Weird garbage in authors/titles.... If you can help, please do. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 15:57, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Any of the |<name-list>-mask=
parameters, when given text, may include a semicolon name-list separator character so the extra punctuation test inappropriately adds the page to
Category:CS1 maint: extra punctuation.
Wikitext | {{cite book
|
---|---|
Live | Author; aided by Assistant1; Assistant2. Title. {{
cite book}} : |author= has generic name (
help)CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (
link)
|
Sandbox | Author; aided by Assistant1; Assistant2. Title. {{
cite book}} : |author= has generic name (
help)CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (
link)
|
Fixed in the sandbox.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 12:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
{{Citation|chapter=Front Matter|date=2016|work=A Feminist Companion to Shakespeare|pages=i–xix|publisher=John Wiley & Sons, Ltd|language=en|doi=10.1002/9781118501221.fmatter|isbn=978-1-118-50122-1}}
Gives
{{
citation}}
: |chapter=
ignored (
help); Missing or empty |title=
(
help)This should recognized work as an alias of title here. Or process things correctly. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 00:41, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
|work=
aliases as a control to shift {{
citation}}
from 'book' mode to 'periodical' mode. This is necessary for proper rendering of both types of citations and for the proper creation of the citation's metadata.|title=
in serials vs one-offs continues. So every so often a similar question is asked.
65.88.88.69 (
talk) 23:08, 8 July 2020 (UTC)I propose that the namespaces of the parameters |script-title=
, |script-chapter=
and |script-work=
be changed to use
ISO 15924 codes instead. This has the benefits of eliminating ambiguity (for instance, whether a Chinese-language source is written in traditional or simplified characters, or whether a Mongolian one uses the Cyrillic or Traditional Mongolian writing system) as well as making it easier to properly display obscure scripts which are not presently known by CS1, but coded by the ISO. (See
Category:Indonesian scripts for starter examples of the latter.)
Glades12 (
talk) 14:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC), updated 14:52, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
|title=
, |quote=
, etc.. The fact that we don't leads to the conclusion that only the scripts themselves are necessary to specify.
Glades12 (
talk) 19:36, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
I'll be happy to read ISO 15924 just as $61.63 in the form of United States currency or a United States postal money order arrives in my physical mailbox. Until them I'm opposed. Jc3s5h ( talk) 16:09, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
There is literally no way to know that from your links (do you expect everyone you meet to be a HTML genius?), and the way you replied made it seem like you did disagree. Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding. Glades12 ( talk) 12:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
I've suddenly seen several cite errors for citations with dates that use season ranges, for example in Franz Kafka:
{{
cite journal}}
: Invalid |ref=harv
(
help)These were not edited recently, so why would any recent change make this a new error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennethaw88 ( talk • contribs)
|doi=
parameterTo our citation template documentation such as
Cite journal/doc#URL, could we add a sentence explaining that one should not add |url=http://dx.doi.org/10.2307/1440636
if there's already |doi=10.2307/1440636
defined, as was
for instance here? Same goes for JSTOR or Worldcat (OCLC), where we don't need |url=http://worldcat.org/oclc/777999581
if there's already |oclc=777999581
, as
here. --
bender235 (
talk) 17:47, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
|doi=
and |doi-access=free
is set, but it does not mean we actually need to place anything in the |url=
parameter. In fact, anything put in there would overwrite the DOI link. --
bender235 (
talk) 16:52, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
|doi=10.1145/360569.360660
|doi=10.1145/360569.360660
being present in a citation (and with DOI auto-linking enabled in the future), it still makes a lot of sense to add |url=
if it points to a better source or even the actual document rather than only a metapage, so
|doi=
alone).This is already covered in Template:Citation Style documentation/id2 per long-standing consensus. Where else would you like to write it? Nemo 06:31, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
I propose to update cs1|2 module suite over the weekend 11–12 July 2020. Here are the changes:
|url=
if |doi=
and |doi-access=free
are present;
discussion and
discussion{{
cite conference}}
error messaging;
discussionModule:Citation/CS1/Configuration:
{{
cite map}}
;
discussion|trans-title=
to limited param list;
discussionModule:Citation/CS1/Date validation
Module:Citation/CS1/Identifiers
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 14:10, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
{{
citation}}
templates + some hand-waved-number of cs1 templates with |mode=cs2
) and the cs1 cat would have 4500k - 300k = 4200k pages? I'm not really seeing the benefit of that.|chapter-url=
issue), what would be needed as a minimum now is to let |url=
take three additional values: none
, doi
and pmc
. doi
and pmc
would select the corresponding identifier link even if auto-linking based on its "priority ruleset" would select a different identifier, and none
would disable auto-linking for this citation. For other url values, the parameter's argument would be used as a link target. And without |url=
at all, auto-linking would work according to the ruleset discussed (which has already been implemented for normal titles in journals the least).|auto-url=doi/pmc/none
would be great. Supporting all the free identifiers (of record) would be even better. But I wouldn't delay the update just for that, with the understanding that this templates should be updated way more often than it currently is for major features like this.
Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b} 16:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
|auto-link=
for this? So far, I took your parameter name as a quick "discussion handle" or "prototypical name", only...|title-link=
with this functionality in order to avoid introducing yet another parameter, and Trappist originally proposed to overload |url=
instead. Could you live with that as well? The basic idea behind that is to make existing parameters more functional in a "smart", coherent and easy-to-remember way rather than to introduce new narrow-purpose parameters. Overloading existing parameters is a bit more difficult to code than using new parameters, but I think what is more important is the user-interface side - what is more intuitive to use and easier to document?|title-link=
(or |auto-url=
) rules out any possible problems with bots needing an update after rolling out this feature, |url=
has the advantage that (at a later point in time) the feature could be extended to auto-link chapters (this was already requested in the discussions above) by overloading the already existing |chapter-url=
parameter in the same way we'd do it for |url=
(whilst we don't have nor need an equivalent |chapter-link=
parameter, and given that title and chapter could point to different identifier links (e.g. book and chapter DOIs) it would be difficult to control this behaviour with a single parameter like |auto-url=
only).|auto-url=
/|whatever=
.
Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b} 22:54, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
{{
cite journal}}
: Check |url=
value (
help)This should throw an error. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 21:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
//
); news:
is one such that cs1|2 supports. I have used that one as a test: if scheme is not news:
then authority indicator is required.
{{cite journal/new | author1 = Chrissi-Yianna Politou | author2 = Konstantinos Kapiris | author3 = Porzia Maierano | author4 = Francesca Capezzuto | author5 = John Dokos | year = 2004 | title = Deep-sea Mediterranean biology: the case of ''Aristaeomorpha foliacea'' (Risso, 1827) (Crustacea:Decapoda:Aristeidae) | url = https:www.vliz.be/imisdocs/publications/68724.pdf | journal = Scientia Marina | volume = 68 | issue = Supplement 3 | pages = 129–139| doi = 10.3989/scimar.2004.68s3129 }}
{{
cite journal}}
: Check |url=
value (
help)Where's the template that we use in the /doc of various utility templates (I'm having trouble remembering a specific one) that warns people not to use that tagged template inside a citation template, because it pollutes the COinS metadata? — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:27, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
The following reference generates a "CS1: long volume value" error, but the volume is correct. We need to accept volumes of reasonable length with a hyphen or en dash.
{{Cite journal |last=Croitor| first=Roman |last2=Stefaniak |first2=Krzysztof |last3=Pawłowska |first3=Kamilla |last4=Ridush |first4=Bogdan |last5=Wojtal |first5=Piotr |last6=Stach |first6=Małgorzata |date=April 2014 |title=Giant deer ''Megaloceros giganteus'' Blumenbach, 1799 (Cervidae, Mammalia) from Palaeolithic of Eastern Europe |url=https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1040618213008689 |journal=Quaternary International |language=en |volume=326–327 |pages=91–104 |doi=10.1016/j.quaint.2013.10.068}}
: Croitor, Roman; Stefaniak, Krzysztof; Pawłowska, Kamilla; Ridush, Bogdan; Wojtal, Piotr; Stach, Małgorzata (April 2014).
"Giant deer Megaloceros giganteus Blumenbach, 1799 (Cervidae, Mammalia) from Palaeolithic of Eastern Europe". Quaternary International. 326–327: 91–104.
doi:
10.1016/j.quaint.2013.10.068.Please let me know when this is fixed. — Anomalocaris ( talk) 00:14, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
{{
cite book}}
: |first=
missing |last=
(
help); Check |url=
value (
help); Missing or empty |title=
(
help).
Glades12 (
talk) 06:44, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
|volume=326–327
as a long volume."generates a "CS1: long volume value" errorand
this category is an error category) is not correct. Category:CS1: long volume value is not an error category but is a properties category. What is it, or what have you read, that makes you think that the category is an error category? If it is something that you read, we can fix that when you tell us where you read it.
I know there's been a previous help issue located here, so my quick question/help is how to get the emoji from this tweet working since I'm also getting the zero-width joiner error. I've tried looking up the different HTMLs for emojis, but was unable to fix it. The tweet is currently cited on this article. Thanks in advance! Magitroopa ( talk) 17:27, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
1F468 200D 1F373
200D
(zero width joiner character) → 1F468 1F373
‍
html entity between the two emoji → 👨‍🍳{{cite web |title=👨🍳 |url=//example.com}}
{{cite web |title=👨‍🍳 |url=//example.com}}
I have tried to implement this
diff] but it is being reverted for reasons: the article is a featured article, FA are not allowed to have dead links in them (!), so the archive.org is placed in the |url=
field so that it is not apparent the link is dead (!!) thus ensuring the FA won't get delisted (!!!). I have tried to explain to
User:Neutralhomer that this is nothing to be concerned about, but have not been successful. Turning it over to the community should anyone be interested in helping Neutralhomer and correcting this citation. --
Green
C 01:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
{{
cite web}}
templates that use |archiveurl=
and |archivedate=
(
78,
79,
80,
85). It appears that those same four are in the article as I write this (
84,
85,
86,
91). Neither of the terms archive nor dead appear in
Wikipedia:Featured article criteria.|url-status=dead
, that can be omitted (when any value is assigned to |archiveurl=
, cs1|2 assumes that |url=
is dead).|archive-url=
and |archive-date=
is normal day-to-day business with cs1|2 templates.This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 65 | Archive 66 | Archive 67 | Archive 68 | Archive 69 | Archive 70 | → | Archive 75 |
{{cite journal |last1=Sundquist |first1=Alma |title=Lika lön för lika arbete: varför män böra arbeta för kvinnans politiska rösträtt |journal=Rösträtt för Kvinnor |date=1 April 1913a |volume=2 |issue=7 |pages=1–2 |url=
https://gupea.ub.gu.se/bitstream/2077/462/1/gupea_2077_462_1.pdf |trans-title=Equal Pay for Equal Work: Why Men Should Work for Women's Political Right to Vote |publisher=Landsföreningen för kvinnans politiska rösträtt |location=Stockholm |language=Swedish}}
Doesn't display the 1913a in the date. It does when you preview, but not in live version. Purging doesn't help. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 21:13, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
{{use xxx dates}}
, cs1|2 cannot see that template if you are previewing a section that does not include the {{use xxx dates}}
template. So, because the bug is related to the {{use xxx dates}}
reformatting, previewing the entire page will render the date without the anchor ID disambiguator. Because the date format in the template is the same as specified by {{use xxx dates}}
, it is not obvious that something is wrong except that one little character is missing. In a sea of characters, detecting a missing character is difficult.{{use dmy dates}}
so this should render a disambiguated date in dmy format:
{{cite book/new |title=Title |author=author |date=1913-04-01 |year=1913a}}
{{
cite book}}
: |author=
has generic name (
help)
'"`UNIQ--templatestyles-0000000B-QINU`"'<cite id="CITEREFauthor1913a" class="citation book cs1">author (1 April 1913). ''Title''.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Title&rft.date=1913-04-01&rft.au=author&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AHelp+talk%3ACitation+Style+1%2FArchive+68" class="Z3988"></span> <span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">{{[[Template:cite book|cite book]]}}</code>: </span><span class="cs1-visible-error citation-comment"><code class="cs1-code">|author=</code> has generic name ([[Help:CS1 errors#generic_name|help]])</span>
Re the {{ Cite web}} and similar templates citing a date: some Web pages cited are kept up-to-date, or updated frequently. When citing a source, it is usual to set the date parameter value to the date when the page was last updated (if stated), with an access-date. It would be useful to have a date value of "updated periodically" or similar (at present I achieve this with a note after the cite web template, e.g. Web page updated continuously.) The purpose of this is to encourage the reader needing latest information to go to the source, rather than accepting that only old information is available. Best wishes, Pol098 ( talk) 13:48, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
Is {{cite report}}
actually limited to reports issued by governmental entities, or is it permissible to use it for reports issued by non-governmental corporations? Using {{cite web}}
for scanned images of such reports doesn't feel right, and some such reports are available only on paper.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (
talk) 13:57, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
{{cite report}}
seems to exclude non-governmental entities.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (
talk) 17:27, 7 June 2020 (UTC)|type=Report
as appropriate. Most reports are long enough that the title should appear italics, and all cite report seems to do is not italicize the title and add a default type indicator.
Imzadi 1979
→ 12:52, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
I've been reviewing a draft concerning a company and it has references to a 2-3 minute news segment that has played on NBC Today show and later repeated on NBC Nightly News. Should it be cited with cite news (since it's news), cite AV media (since it's a video), cite episode (as part of a broadcasted news show)? It isn't a live segment, but on one of the shows, it was given like a 30-second introduction by the host. It also has its own producer, editor, and narrator/feature reporter. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 21:26, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
{{
cite news}}
(presuming that the source is a news piece and not merely talking-head jabber). {{cite news}}
supports |time=
and |minutes=
so you can specify when in the video the source supports our article.Because of this discussion at the help desk, I have added Easter as a named date:
{{cite news/new |title=Estate |work=Royal Military College magazine |date=Easter 1925 |pp=116-117}}
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 12:50, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Could a parameter for translated title of the encyclopedia be added to {{ Cite encyclopedia}}? Right now the only translated title parameter available is for the article within the encyclopedia. I noticed this issue at Angel Savov. Thanks! Calliopejen1 ( talk) 18:00, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
{{Cite encyclopedia |last=Тошева |first=Кристина |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=x1kqAQAAIAAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&q=%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BB+%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2&hl=en |entry=Савов, Ангел Сотиров |title=Енциклопедия на българския театър: актьори, режисьори, драматурзи, сценографи, композитори, педагози, хореографи, критици, театри, институции, печат |trans-title=Encyclopedia of Bulgarian Theater |date=2008 |publisher=Trud |isbn=978-954-528-771-8 |language=bg}}
|trans-entry=
:
{{Cite encyclopedia |last=Тошева |first=Кристина |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=x1kqAQAAIAAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&q=%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BB+%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2&hl=en |entry=Савов, Ангел Сотиров |trans-entry=Savov, Angel Sotirov |title=Енциклопедия на българския театър: актьори, режисьори, драматурзи, сценографи, композитори, педагози, хореографи, критици, театри, институции, печат |trans-title=Encyclopedia of Bulgarian Theater |date=2008 |publisher=Trud |isbn=978-954-528-771-8 |language=bg}}
|trans-work=
, which works in other templates, should work in this one too.
Glades12 (
talk) 07:04, 29 June 2020 (UTC)I don't know if this is an error or intended, but if url-status is set to usurped or unfit, hovering the mouse over a <ref> link displays "cs1 maint: unfit (link)" (at least it does with Firefox 77.0.1 on my Win10/64 computer), although this isn't shown in the list of references. Hover over this link (until it's fixed). [1]
Best wishes, Pol098 ( talk) 23:20, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
{{
reflist-talk}}
template. Included in that is the CS1 maint: unfit url (
link) message because I have
maintenance message display enabled – because these messages are, for me, enabled, I see them all the time. This with current version chrome."Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Main Page". English Wikipedia. Archived from the original on 31 March 2018. Retrieved 28 June 2020.CS1 maint: unfit url (link)
<span class="cs1-maint citation-comment">CS1 maint: unfit url (<a href="/wiki/Category:CS1_maint:_unfit_url" title="Category:CS1 maint: unfit url">link</a>)</span>
<span>...</span>
tag:
citation-comment
– a user definable class that is used to hide or show all error and maintenance messages on a per-user basis from the user's personal css pagecs1-maint
– defined in
Module:Citation/CS1/styles.css:
.cs1-maint {
display: none;
color: #33aa33;
margin-left: 0.3em;
}
|url=
to the archived URL, and not using |archive-url=
(after searching unsuccessfully for a better reference to the text sourced). I didn't see it again for a long time, but probably never used |url-status=usurped/unfit
. Name the page and the reference. Last night I used this status in
reference 7 of this edit of "Tissot", and got the message as I described. The Wikipedia Main Page example I give above behaved exactly the same as the Tissot page for me (and still does).{{
cite web}}
: |archive-date=
/ |archive-url=
timestamp mismatch; 3 March 2018 suggested (
help)CS1 maint: unfit URL (
link)
This should not give an error. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 12:36, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
{{cite ssrn/new|title=Die Buchpublikationen der Nobelpreis-Ökonomen und die führenden Buchverlage der Disziplin. Eine bibliometrische Analyse|last1=Tausch|first1=Arno|date=October 15, 2015|language=German|trans-title=The Book Publications of the Nobel-Prize Economists and the Leading Book Publishers of the Discipline. A Bibliometric Analysis|ssrn=2674502}}
Several instances of Cite book isbn parameters are now showing up as red links in my Wikiversity pages. See, for example: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Transcending_Conflict#Further_Reading These have been in place for some time, so I suspect it has something to do with the recent CS1 to CS2 conversion. How can I correct these errors? Thanks! -- Lbeaumont ( talk) 15:48, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
I would like to cite this document that I found via this page at the National Archives and Records Administration. (The specific use is to cite the high school on page 3 that the subject attended.) It appears as though the NARA acquired the records from the CIA, and there is a bunch of identifying information for the document such as "record number", "record series", "agency file number", and a "DocId" at the bottom of the page. I am wondering which of all that information I should cite. Also, should I use {{cite journal}}) as it appears to have replaced {{cite document}}? Should I note that the document came from the NARA or CIA? Thank you! - Location ( talk) 20:09, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
|others=
. But the form's title includes that information. All of this is an approximation of course. The forms native to cs1/2 do not offer a perfect fit for such a citation. That is why it was suggested that a manual free-form citation may be a good option.
98.0.246.242 (
talk) 01:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)Sorry, bad jokes.
I've been seeing, especially a lot of non-anglosphere articles, the practice of placing a year in |publisher=
. I think it might be useful to have a tracking category for this practice. --
Izno (
talk) 12:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
has a legit DOI. The prefix limit should be increased to 10.50000. Or at least 10.46234. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 18:20, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
{{cite journal/new|doi=10.46234/ccdcw2020.032|title=The Epidemiological Characteristics of an Outbreak of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Diseases (COVID-19) — China, 2020|year=2020|last1=Cdc Weekly|first1=China|journal=China CDC Weekly|volume=2|issue=8|pages=113–122}}
The original discussion has been archived without resolution. Are we keeping quarterly dates in some form? If we are keeping them, what is the definitive list of quarterly date formats that cs1|2 should accept?
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 12:54, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
what is the definitive list of quarterly date formats that cs1|2 should accept?
Before I am willing to entertain what is the definitive list of quarterly date formats that cs1|2 should accept?
I request the metadata be resolved.
The previous discussion used the emission of metadata as a justification for not adding some kind of flag to tell the module to just take the date as-is, and not check it. If we're going to use metadata as an excuse to scream false error messages, we should at least emit correct metadata. I remind all of a comment from the previous discussion by Trappist the monk:
quarter
key/value pair is restricted to journal objects in COinS but may be used for all other objects in OpenURL).1st quarter 2020
into &rft.quarter=1&rft.date=2020
. We went to great effort to eliminate date parts from cs1|2 (|day=
, |month=
) so we should not return to that method with |quarter=1
.I therefore request specification of what metadata will be emitted and under which circumstances. I suggest that the metadata from the 11:33, 17 May 2020 (UTC) post be emitted, but only if the citation is recognized by the module as a citation to a journal (or at most, some periodical, such as a magazine). Otherwise only the year should be emitted. Jc3s5h ( talk) 13:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
{{cite book/new |title=Title |date=Fourth Quarter 1995}}
'"`UNIQ--templatestyles-00000037-QINU`"'<cite class="citation book cs1">''Title''. Fourth Quarter 1995.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Title&rft.date=1995&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AHelp+talk%3ACitation+Style+1%2FArchive+68" class="Z3988"></span>
{{cite magazine/new |title=Title |magazine=Magazine |date=Fourth Quarter 1995}}
'"`UNIQ--templatestyles-0000003B-QINU`"'<cite class="citation magazine cs1">"Title". ''Magazine''. Fourth Quarter 1995.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=Magazine&rft.atitle=Title&rft.quarter=4&rft.date=1995&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AHelp+talk%3ACitation+Style+1%2FArchive+68" class="Z3988"></span>
|date=
(only) holds a quarterly date, cs1|2 will emit &rtf.quarter
with a digit 1
–4
specifying the quarter and &rtf.date
specifying the year-portion of the date; no date metadata when |date=
holds an invalid date.[dates] have an inherent order whether we add one of those suffixes or not: 1st quarter precedes 2nd quarter precedes 3rd quarter precedes 4th quarter precedes 1st quarter ... Or, are you saying that we should not support spelled-out forms: 'First', 'Second', 'Third', 'Fourth'?
How can I clarify by using this template that the url-access are only limited to a geographically area like norwegian IP-addresses ? Best regards and a safe and happy summer from Migrant ( talk) 17:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
</ref>
tag to explain the limitation.Please take a look at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Weird garbage in authors/titles.... If you can help, please do. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 15:57, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Any of the |<name-list>-mask=
parameters, when given text, may include a semicolon name-list separator character so the extra punctuation test inappropriately adds the page to
Category:CS1 maint: extra punctuation.
Wikitext | {{cite book
|
---|---|
Live | Author; aided by Assistant1; Assistant2. Title. {{
cite book}} : |author= has generic name (
help)CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (
link)
|
Sandbox | Author; aided by Assistant1; Assistant2. Title. {{
cite book}} : |author= has generic name (
help)CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (
link)
|
Fixed in the sandbox.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 12:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
{{Citation|chapter=Front Matter|date=2016|work=A Feminist Companion to Shakespeare|pages=i–xix|publisher=John Wiley & Sons, Ltd|language=en|doi=10.1002/9781118501221.fmatter|isbn=978-1-118-50122-1}}
Gives
{{
citation}}
: |chapter=
ignored (
help); Missing or empty |title=
(
help)This should recognized work as an alias of title here. Or process things correctly. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 00:41, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
|work=
aliases as a control to shift {{
citation}}
from 'book' mode to 'periodical' mode. This is necessary for proper rendering of both types of citations and for the proper creation of the citation's metadata.|title=
in serials vs one-offs continues. So every so often a similar question is asked.
65.88.88.69 (
talk) 23:08, 8 July 2020 (UTC)I propose that the namespaces of the parameters |script-title=
, |script-chapter=
and |script-work=
be changed to use
ISO 15924 codes instead. This has the benefits of eliminating ambiguity (for instance, whether a Chinese-language source is written in traditional or simplified characters, or whether a Mongolian one uses the Cyrillic or Traditional Mongolian writing system) as well as making it easier to properly display obscure scripts which are not presently known by CS1, but coded by the ISO. (See
Category:Indonesian scripts for starter examples of the latter.)
Glades12 (
talk) 14:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC), updated 14:52, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
|title=
, |quote=
, etc.. The fact that we don't leads to the conclusion that only the scripts themselves are necessary to specify.
Glades12 (
talk) 19:36, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
I'll be happy to read ISO 15924 just as $61.63 in the form of United States currency or a United States postal money order arrives in my physical mailbox. Until them I'm opposed. Jc3s5h ( talk) 16:09, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
There is literally no way to know that from your links (do you expect everyone you meet to be a HTML genius?), and the way you replied made it seem like you did disagree. Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding. Glades12 ( talk) 12:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
I've suddenly seen several cite errors for citations with dates that use season ranges, for example in Franz Kafka:
{{
cite journal}}
: Invalid |ref=harv
(
help)These were not edited recently, so why would any recent change make this a new error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennethaw88 ( talk • contribs)
|doi=
parameterTo our citation template documentation such as
Cite journal/doc#URL, could we add a sentence explaining that one should not add |url=http://dx.doi.org/10.2307/1440636
if there's already |doi=10.2307/1440636
defined, as was
for instance here? Same goes for JSTOR or Worldcat (OCLC), where we don't need |url=http://worldcat.org/oclc/777999581
if there's already |oclc=777999581
, as
here. --
bender235 (
talk) 17:47, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
|doi=
and |doi-access=free
is set, but it does not mean we actually need to place anything in the |url=
parameter. In fact, anything put in there would overwrite the DOI link. --
bender235 (
talk) 16:52, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
|doi=10.1145/360569.360660
|doi=10.1145/360569.360660
being present in a citation (and with DOI auto-linking enabled in the future), it still makes a lot of sense to add |url=
if it points to a better source or even the actual document rather than only a metapage, so
|doi=
alone).This is already covered in Template:Citation Style documentation/id2 per long-standing consensus. Where else would you like to write it? Nemo 06:31, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
I propose to update cs1|2 module suite over the weekend 11–12 July 2020. Here are the changes:
|url=
if |doi=
and |doi-access=free
are present;
discussion and
discussion{{
cite conference}}
error messaging;
discussionModule:Citation/CS1/Configuration:
{{
cite map}}
;
discussion|trans-title=
to limited param list;
discussionModule:Citation/CS1/Date validation
Module:Citation/CS1/Identifiers
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 14:10, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
{{
citation}}
templates + some hand-waved-number of cs1 templates with |mode=cs2
) and the cs1 cat would have 4500k - 300k = 4200k pages? I'm not really seeing the benefit of that.|chapter-url=
issue), what would be needed as a minimum now is to let |url=
take three additional values: none
, doi
and pmc
. doi
and pmc
would select the corresponding identifier link even if auto-linking based on its "priority ruleset" would select a different identifier, and none
would disable auto-linking for this citation. For other url values, the parameter's argument would be used as a link target. And without |url=
at all, auto-linking would work according to the ruleset discussed (which has already been implemented for normal titles in journals the least).|auto-url=doi/pmc/none
would be great. Supporting all the free identifiers (of record) would be even better. But I wouldn't delay the update just for that, with the understanding that this templates should be updated way more often than it currently is for major features like this.
Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b} 16:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
|auto-link=
for this? So far, I took your parameter name as a quick "discussion handle" or "prototypical name", only...|title-link=
with this functionality in order to avoid introducing yet another parameter, and Trappist originally proposed to overload |url=
instead. Could you live with that as well? The basic idea behind that is to make existing parameters more functional in a "smart", coherent and easy-to-remember way rather than to introduce new narrow-purpose parameters. Overloading existing parameters is a bit more difficult to code than using new parameters, but I think what is more important is the user-interface side - what is more intuitive to use and easier to document?|title-link=
(or |auto-url=
) rules out any possible problems with bots needing an update after rolling out this feature, |url=
has the advantage that (at a later point in time) the feature could be extended to auto-link chapters (this was already requested in the discussions above) by overloading the already existing |chapter-url=
parameter in the same way we'd do it for |url=
(whilst we don't have nor need an equivalent |chapter-link=
parameter, and given that title and chapter could point to different identifier links (e.g. book and chapter DOIs) it would be difficult to control this behaviour with a single parameter like |auto-url=
only).|auto-url=
/|whatever=
.
Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b} 22:54, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
{{
cite journal}}
: Check |url=
value (
help)This should throw an error. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 21:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
//
); news:
is one such that cs1|2 supports. I have used that one as a test: if scheme is not news:
then authority indicator is required.
{{cite journal/new | author1 = Chrissi-Yianna Politou | author2 = Konstantinos Kapiris | author3 = Porzia Maierano | author4 = Francesca Capezzuto | author5 = John Dokos | year = 2004 | title = Deep-sea Mediterranean biology: the case of ''Aristaeomorpha foliacea'' (Risso, 1827) (Crustacea:Decapoda:Aristeidae) | url = https:www.vliz.be/imisdocs/publications/68724.pdf | journal = Scientia Marina | volume = 68 | issue = Supplement 3 | pages = 129–139| doi = 10.3989/scimar.2004.68s3129 }}
{{
cite journal}}
: Check |url=
value (
help)Where's the template that we use in the /doc of various utility templates (I'm having trouble remembering a specific one) that warns people not to use that tagged template inside a citation template, because it pollutes the COinS metadata? — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:27, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
The following reference generates a "CS1: long volume value" error, but the volume is correct. We need to accept volumes of reasonable length with a hyphen or en dash.
{{Cite journal |last=Croitor| first=Roman |last2=Stefaniak |first2=Krzysztof |last3=Pawłowska |first3=Kamilla |last4=Ridush |first4=Bogdan |last5=Wojtal |first5=Piotr |last6=Stach |first6=Małgorzata |date=April 2014 |title=Giant deer ''Megaloceros giganteus'' Blumenbach, 1799 (Cervidae, Mammalia) from Palaeolithic of Eastern Europe |url=https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1040618213008689 |journal=Quaternary International |language=en |volume=326–327 |pages=91–104 |doi=10.1016/j.quaint.2013.10.068}}
: Croitor, Roman; Stefaniak, Krzysztof; Pawłowska, Kamilla; Ridush, Bogdan; Wojtal, Piotr; Stach, Małgorzata (April 2014).
"Giant deer Megaloceros giganteus Blumenbach, 1799 (Cervidae, Mammalia) from Palaeolithic of Eastern Europe". Quaternary International. 326–327: 91–104.
doi:
10.1016/j.quaint.2013.10.068.Please let me know when this is fixed. — Anomalocaris ( talk) 00:14, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
{{
cite book}}
: |first=
missing |last=
(
help); Check |url=
value (
help); Missing or empty |title=
(
help).
Glades12 (
talk) 06:44, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
|volume=326–327
as a long volume."generates a "CS1: long volume value" errorand
this category is an error category) is not correct. Category:CS1: long volume value is not an error category but is a properties category. What is it, or what have you read, that makes you think that the category is an error category? If it is something that you read, we can fix that when you tell us where you read it.
I know there's been a previous help issue located here, so my quick question/help is how to get the emoji from this tweet working since I'm also getting the zero-width joiner error. I've tried looking up the different HTMLs for emojis, but was unable to fix it. The tweet is currently cited on this article. Thanks in advance! Magitroopa ( talk) 17:27, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
1F468 200D 1F373
200D
(zero width joiner character) → 1F468 1F373
‍
html entity between the two emoji → 👨‍🍳{{cite web |title=👨🍳 |url=//example.com}}
{{cite web |title=👨‍🍳 |url=//example.com}}
I have tried to implement this
diff] but it is being reverted for reasons: the article is a featured article, FA are not allowed to have dead links in them (!), so the archive.org is placed in the |url=
field so that it is not apparent the link is dead (!!) thus ensuring the FA won't get delisted (!!!). I have tried to explain to
User:Neutralhomer that this is nothing to be concerned about, but have not been successful. Turning it over to the community should anyone be interested in helping Neutralhomer and correcting this citation. --
Green
C 01:55, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
{{
cite web}}
templates that use |archiveurl=
and |archivedate=
(
78,
79,
80,
85). It appears that those same four are in the article as I write this (
84,
85,
86,
91). Neither of the terms archive nor dead appear in
Wikipedia:Featured article criteria.|url-status=dead
, that can be omitted (when any value is assigned to |archiveurl=
, cs1|2 assumes that |url=
is dead).|archive-url=
and |archive-date=
is normal day-to-day business with cs1|2 templates.