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I just want to say that I really like this idea. It is the simplest way to recommend a really good auto archiving setup. Here are some thoughts though:
We really should make it a one template thing but that would require major changes to archiving bots. I'm quite tempted to make my own one with the best parts from the current two and proper defaults and taking settings from {{ Archives}} or {{ Talk header}}. I'm not that tempted to make sure it has a 100% uptime for the coming decade+ if I don't get a second maintainer. I should really write my archiving manifesto in the next few weeks and start trying to implement it. -- Trialpears ( talk) 12:46, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
|archivebox=yes
of {{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis}}
to automatically generate an archive box. Example:
User talk:GeneralNotability.
Terasail
[✉️]
15:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Hey, @ Qwerfjkl, I added that at Talk:List of Lehi members and it doesn't provide a search box? —valereee ( talk) 18:46, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
{{Subst:Setup auto archiving|archives=yes}}
should add that. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
20:11, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
the current template ({{ Setup auto archiving}})- sorry if I didn't make that obvious. ― Qwerfjkl talk 21:38, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
{{subst:Setup auto archiving|archives=yes}}
, which would do the same (but use Lowercase sigmabot III). ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
22:00, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
{{User:MiszaBot/config
| algo = old(30d)
| archive = User talk:Example/Archive %(counter)d
| counter = 1
| maxarchivesize = 150K
| archiveheader = {{Automatic archive navigator}}
| minthreadstoarchive = 1
| minthreadsleft = 4
}}
{{subst:Setup Cluebot archiving}}
instead of that large amount of text). ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
22:38, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
{{Setup cluebot archiving|archives=yes}}
should replace the text. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
14:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
{{subst:Setup cluebot archiving}}
. The template was automatically substituted by
User:AnomieBOT. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:27, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Qwerfjkl, another user is coming along behind me adding something that turns the archives I've just set up red, and then I guess a bot is supposed to come along again later and turn them blue again, and it's because Cluebot doesn't allow blank parameters? This is an experienced and I'm sure well-intentioned editor, but I don't understand what it's about and whether the template on the help page needs changed? —valereee ( talk) 15:13, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
|archivebox=yes |box-advert=yes
instead of {{
archives}}. The template on the help page probably won't be changed, but I have no objection to not using {{
Archives}}. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:37, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
=
and Talk:~
. Blank parameters generated
Talk:2018 Moscow–Constantinople schism/Archives/ 1,
Talk:Kofta/Archives/ 1, .... Be careful not to type inserted blanks, and misspelled underscores, etc. of the parameter while using ClueBot. And I recommend that auto archiving be used if its talk page's size is more than about 80K bytes.
Sawol (
talk)
03:15, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
I think that the template on this page should be setup auto archiving instead of setup cluebot archiving. I tried cluebot and made a complete meal of it. When I switched over to lowercase bot, everything changed. I think this page should have the lowercase sigma bot template instead with archives = yes it is so much easier for newer users like me to use. Thanks Blanchey ( talk) 10:34, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
the main archiving page says lowercase sigmabot III won't archive sections that don't have a signature. I've seen that multiple times, sections ten+ years old that have never been archived because the section wasn't signed, so there's always a section or two on top of the page that are from newbs, often from cranks. And no one at the talk even realizes how old they are, because they weren't signed. That seems like a huge downside. The only listed downside for cluebot is it can take several days to do the first archive, which doesn't seem like an issue, and that it doesn't work for pages that are linked to by thousands of other pages, which isn't an issue for probably all but a very few pages. I think we should stay with cluebot as the default— Qwerfjkl talk 10:51, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis
| age =168
| archiveprefix =User talk:Blanchey/Archive
| numberstart =1
| maxarchsize =75000
| header ={{Automatic archive navigator}}
| minkeepthreads =1
| format = %%i
}}{{Archives}}
When editing a talk page to initiate bot archiving, I used the suggestion command for Cluebot several days ago ( Talk:Propolis) and see today that nothing has happened. Is there a way to trigger archiving immediately within the first seconds/minutes of saving the talk page edit, say by specifying a period from the beginning of talk (maybe 10+ years) to within the last 3 years?
Why do we accept waiting days/weeks for a bot to find the command?
Following the welcome: Are you new here? Welcome! There is a simplified version of this page at Help: Archiving (plain and simple). This is later followed by After that, a bot will be along in a couple of days to start archiving. No, it doesn't, and why does the bot need an unknown "couple of days"?
Also, in the Example archive search box on the welcome page for simple Cluebot archiving, the archives box shows it's Lowercase sigmabot that did the work, not Cluebot which supposedly was the choice for setup - this could be confusing to editors. Thanks. Zefr ( talk) 19:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
The current status of ClueBot III is: Not running - last edit was User talk:Ganesha811 30166s ago. Perhaps because Lowercase sigmabot has higher use statistics, its minor problems should be repaired and its preferred use should be implemented.
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I just want to say that I really like this idea. It is the simplest way to recommend a really good auto archiving setup. Here are some thoughts though:
We really should make it a one template thing but that would require major changes to archiving bots. I'm quite tempted to make my own one with the best parts from the current two and proper defaults and taking settings from {{ Archives}} or {{ Talk header}}. I'm not that tempted to make sure it has a 100% uptime for the coming decade+ if I don't get a second maintainer. I should really write my archiving manifesto in the next few weeks and start trying to implement it. -- Trialpears ( talk) 12:46, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
|archivebox=yes
of {{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis}}
to automatically generate an archive box. Example:
User talk:GeneralNotability.
Terasail
[✉️]
15:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Hey, @ Qwerfjkl, I added that at Talk:List of Lehi members and it doesn't provide a search box? —valereee ( talk) 18:46, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
{{Subst:Setup auto archiving|archives=yes}}
should add that. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
20:11, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
the current template ({{ Setup auto archiving}})- sorry if I didn't make that obvious. ― Qwerfjkl talk 21:38, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
{{subst:Setup auto archiving|archives=yes}}
, which would do the same (but use Lowercase sigmabot III). ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
22:00, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
{{User:MiszaBot/config
| algo = old(30d)
| archive = User talk:Example/Archive %(counter)d
| counter = 1
| maxarchivesize = 150K
| archiveheader = {{Automatic archive navigator}}
| minthreadstoarchive = 1
| minthreadsleft = 4
}}
{{subst:Setup Cluebot archiving}}
instead of that large amount of text). ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
22:38, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
{{Setup cluebot archiving|archives=yes}}
should replace the text. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
14:23, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
{{subst:Setup cluebot archiving}}
. The template was automatically substituted by
User:AnomieBOT. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:27, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
@ Qwerfjkl, another user is coming along behind me adding something that turns the archives I've just set up red, and then I guess a bot is supposed to come along again later and turn them blue again, and it's because Cluebot doesn't allow blank parameters? This is an experienced and I'm sure well-intentioned editor, but I don't understand what it's about and whether the template on the help page needs changed? —valereee ( talk) 15:13, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
|archivebox=yes |box-advert=yes
instead of {{
archives}}. The template on the help page probably won't be changed, but I have no objection to not using {{
Archives}}. ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
16:37, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
=
and Talk:~
. Blank parameters generated
Talk:2018 Moscow–Constantinople schism/Archives/ 1,
Talk:Kofta/Archives/ 1, .... Be careful not to type inserted blanks, and misspelled underscores, etc. of the parameter while using ClueBot. And I recommend that auto archiving be used if its talk page's size is more than about 80K bytes.
Sawol (
talk)
03:15, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
I think that the template on this page should be setup auto archiving instead of setup cluebot archiving. I tried cluebot and made a complete meal of it. When I switched over to lowercase bot, everything changed. I think this page should have the lowercase sigma bot template instead with archives = yes it is so much easier for newer users like me to use. Thanks Blanchey ( talk) 10:34, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
the main archiving page says lowercase sigmabot III won't archive sections that don't have a signature. I've seen that multiple times, sections ten+ years old that have never been archived because the section wasn't signed, so there's always a section or two on top of the page that are from newbs, often from cranks. And no one at the talk even realizes how old they are, because they weren't signed. That seems like a huge downside. The only listed downside for cluebot is it can take several days to do the first archive, which doesn't seem like an issue, and that it doesn't work for pages that are linked to by thousands of other pages, which isn't an issue for probably all but a very few pages. I think we should stay with cluebot as the default— Qwerfjkl talk 10:51, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis
| age =168
| archiveprefix =User talk:Blanchey/Archive
| numberstart =1
| maxarchsize =75000
| header ={{Automatic archive navigator}}
| minkeepthreads =1
| format = %%i
}}{{Archives}}
When editing a talk page to initiate bot archiving, I used the suggestion command for Cluebot several days ago ( Talk:Propolis) and see today that nothing has happened. Is there a way to trigger archiving immediately within the first seconds/minutes of saving the talk page edit, say by specifying a period from the beginning of talk (maybe 10+ years) to within the last 3 years?
Why do we accept waiting days/weeks for a bot to find the command?
Following the welcome: Are you new here? Welcome! There is a simplified version of this page at Help: Archiving (plain and simple). This is later followed by After that, a bot will be along in a couple of days to start archiving. No, it doesn't, and why does the bot need an unknown "couple of days"?
Also, in the Example archive search box on the welcome page for simple Cluebot archiving, the archives box shows it's Lowercase sigmabot that did the work, not Cluebot which supposedly was the choice for setup - this could be confusing to editors. Thanks. Zefr ( talk) 19:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
The current status of ClueBot III is: Not running - last edit was User talk:Ganesha811 30166s ago. Perhaps because Lowercase sigmabot has higher use statistics, its minor problems should be repaired and its preferred use should be implemented.