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this pictures shows how sad this person's entire life has been — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.96.162.205 ( talk) 21:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC) reply


This pic appears to be a fake. The real 'Mathew Brady' one was - at least I believe- is at this site: http://click.si.edu/Image.aspx?image=796&story=297&back=Story — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.102.175 ( talk) 11:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply


How sad and horrible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.184.62 ( talk) 02:52, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply

Is the description wrong?

Current description says he was a Mississippi slave, but I came across this link: Description of whipped Peter image at Historylink101.com "Baton Rouge, LA. April 2, 1863. Ten days from today I left the plantation. Overseer ARTAYOU CARRIER whipped me. My master was not present. I don't remember the whipping. I was two moths in bed sore from the whipping and my sense began to come - I was sort of crazy. I tried to shoot everybody. They said so, I did not know. I did not know that I had attempted to shoot everyone; they told me so. I burned up all my clothes; but I don't remember that. I never was this way (crazy) before. I don't know what make me come that way (crazy). My master come after I was whipped; saw me in bed; he discharged the overseer. They told me I attempted to shoot my wife the first one; I did not shoot any one; I did not harm any one. My master's Capt. JOHN LYON, cotton planter, on Atchafalya, near Washington, LA. Whipped two months before Christmas. The very works of poor PETER taken as he sat for this picture"

Note the location, on the Atchafalaya, near Washington, LA. This would seem to rule out him being a slave in Mississippi when he made his escape. I came across the following bio for a Captain "John Lyons" which matches the description perfectly. Captain John Lyons biography "John and Bridget owned a lot in the city of Washington and a three thousand acre plantation on the Atchafalaya River, both in St Landry Parish, in the early 1860s. The plantation was located somewhere between modern day Melville and Krotz Springs.7 Bridget died January 2, 1864 at the city of Washington2and John was killed September 23, 1864 at their Atchafalaya River plantation home. He was called out of his house in the middle of the night by a party of Federal soldiers from Morganza and murdered at his own front door." This detail is referenced as from: The Conduct of Federal Troops in Louisiana During the Invasions of 1863 and 1864 by Acadiana Press. One might look for a link between the story of Peter and the purported murder by soldiers.

I'm finding some confirmation of Captain John Lyons being the owner of Peter in: Polemical Pain: Slavery, Cruelty, and the Rise of Humanitarianism By Margaret Abruzzo (see note 63, page 309.) But can only preview a sample at this time. Peter and Gordon appear to be the same man with slight differences in story?

Unless someone can provide a better source in the next few days, it looks like it is time to correct the description of where he was from. Red Harvest ( talk) 07:16, 15 June 2014 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

horrible

this pictures shows how sad this person's entire life has been — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.96.162.205 ( talk) 21:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC) reply


This pic appears to be a fake. The real 'Mathew Brady' one was - at least I believe- is at this site: http://click.si.edu/Image.aspx?image=796&story=297&back=Story — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.102.175 ( talk) 11:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC) reply


How sad and horrible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.184.62 ( talk) 02:52, 31 March 2014 (UTC) reply

Is the description wrong?

Current description says he was a Mississippi slave, but I came across this link: Description of whipped Peter image at Historylink101.com "Baton Rouge, LA. April 2, 1863. Ten days from today I left the plantation. Overseer ARTAYOU CARRIER whipped me. My master was not present. I don't remember the whipping. I was two moths in bed sore from the whipping and my sense began to come - I was sort of crazy. I tried to shoot everybody. They said so, I did not know. I did not know that I had attempted to shoot everyone; they told me so. I burned up all my clothes; but I don't remember that. I never was this way (crazy) before. I don't know what make me come that way (crazy). My master come after I was whipped; saw me in bed; he discharged the overseer. They told me I attempted to shoot my wife the first one; I did not shoot any one; I did not harm any one. My master's Capt. JOHN LYON, cotton planter, on Atchafalya, near Washington, LA. Whipped two months before Christmas. The very works of poor PETER taken as he sat for this picture"

Note the location, on the Atchafalaya, near Washington, LA. This would seem to rule out him being a slave in Mississippi when he made his escape. I came across the following bio for a Captain "John Lyons" which matches the description perfectly. Captain John Lyons biography "John and Bridget owned a lot in the city of Washington and a three thousand acre plantation on the Atchafalaya River, both in St Landry Parish, in the early 1860s. The plantation was located somewhere between modern day Melville and Krotz Springs.7 Bridget died January 2, 1864 at the city of Washington2and John was killed September 23, 1864 at their Atchafalaya River plantation home. He was called out of his house in the middle of the night by a party of Federal soldiers from Morganza and murdered at his own front door." This detail is referenced as from: The Conduct of Federal Troops in Louisiana During the Invasions of 1863 and 1864 by Acadiana Press. One might look for a link between the story of Peter and the purported murder by soldiers.

I'm finding some confirmation of Captain John Lyons being the owner of Peter in: Polemical Pain: Slavery, Cruelty, and the Rise of Humanitarianism By Margaret Abruzzo (see note 63, page 309.) But can only preview a sample at this time. Peter and Gordon appear to be the same man with slight differences in story?

Unless someone can provide a better source in the next few days, it looks like it is time to correct the description of where he was from. Red Harvest ( talk) 07:16, 15 June 2014 (UTC) reply


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