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The only page in this category was Immigration to Europe. Europe, by all definitions, is not a country but a continent. There are many "by continent" categories ( Category:Categories by continent aznd Category:Categories by region), and a lot of them have for the moment only one entry (as do many other categories). I think we should prefer a less populated category to a clearly wrong category. Furthermore, there is no reason why this category can't have more entries in the future, it is not bound to stay at one entry only. I would propose to not merge these categories, and to restore the category to the Europe page. Fram ( talk) 11:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC) reply

And now the category has twelve articles (including the one removed earlier which I'll readd shortly), all about immigration from or to one continent. More can probably be found still. At first glance, only one of these was earlier listed in any immigration categories or subcategories, even though at least for some of them the link and relevance is undeniable. Theone listed was African immigration to the United States, which could be found from the US perspective, but not from an African perspective. The intention of this category is that if you want to find articles that deal with immigration by Africans, Asians, Europeans, ... as a group, you now have a resource, whereas earlier you had to look around quite a lot. I'll leave the merge tag on for either the nominator or some uninvolved editor to remove, but I hope the usefulness of this populated category is now clear, and the fact that it is quite separate from the "immigration by country" one. Fram ( talk) 13:42, 28 May 2008 (UTC) reply

I too believe the category has separate value, especially where country boundaries have changed since the immigration happened. For example, people arriving at New Amsterdam were immigrating to North America but not to the United States. Some of what Fram said - "immigration from or to one continent" - seems to be confusing immigration with emigration. Maybe the word "destination" could precede "continent" if other people are likely to confuse the two. Robin Patterson ( talk) 09:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC) reply