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Hybridization unknown

A question: it is not known whether most citrus cultivars are hybrids, but genetic data is steadily untangling it (see citrus taxonomy). Sometimes there's good, sourced, genetics-based information on the ancestral groups, but it's clear that there have been several intervening undocumented hybrid generations; this is the cases for many named species. In these cases, should one use a cultivar box or a species box? Both? HLHJ ( talk) 15:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC) reply

I think it's primarily a matter of nomenclature, rather than the ultimate ancestry/phylogeny. Species boxes are for plants currently given their own binomial names, including hybrids; cultivar boxes for those named under the ICNCP. Where research is still clarifying the true origins of cultivated forms traditionally given ICN names, you just have to pick what seems the most accurate at present, and discuss the alternatives in the text. ( Musa is an example of a genus that had similar issues, but is mostly now sorted, although sources still vary considerably.) Peter coxhead ( talk) 04:45, 2 July 2015 (UTC) reply
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Hybridization unknown

A question: it is not known whether most citrus cultivars are hybrids, but genetic data is steadily untangling it (see citrus taxonomy). Sometimes there's good, sourced, genetics-based information on the ancestral groups, but it's clear that there have been several intervening undocumented hybrid generations; this is the cases for many named species. In these cases, should one use a cultivar box or a species box? Both? HLHJ ( talk) 15:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC) reply

I think it's primarily a matter of nomenclature, rather than the ultimate ancestry/phylogeny. Species boxes are for plants currently given their own binomial names, including hybrids; cultivar boxes for those named under the ICNCP. Where research is still clarifying the true origins of cultivated forms traditionally given ICN names, you just have to pick what seems the most accurate at present, and discuss the alternatives in the text. ( Musa is an example of a genus that had similar issues, but is mostly now sorted, although sources still vary considerably.) Peter coxhead ( talk) 04:45, 2 July 2015 (UTC) reply

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