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I want to address are use of pictures in various Olympics-related articles. Specifically, I'm concerned with the use of photos in Cross-country skiing at the 2006 Winter Olympics. The main goal of Wikipedia is to create a free encyclopedia. These images do nothing to promote that goal, and they may harm the goal. While there is some claim of fair use, the copyright notice on the NBC Olympics pages make it clear that these images are not free, and not fair use.
© 2006 NBC Universal. All rights reserved. Any use reproduction, modification, distribution, display or performance of this material without NBC Universal's prior written consent is prohibited.
I think we are doing great work as part of this project, but I feel we need to pay much closer attention to making sure it's free work. -- Sue Anne 06:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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How about this for a new userbox? It's easier to identify as Olympic-related, I think... tiZom (2¢) 15:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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I have been playing around with some different formats for listing medalists, and I'd like some feedback on some of my work. Please see Austria at the 1952 Winter Olympics and/or Algeria at the Olympics to see some examples. I used the sortable table class, and created some new templates so that the medal column would sort properly and the athletes would be sorted by last name. I rather like the results.
We have several different styles for presenting these lists, and it would be nice to standardize on one. Some random examples:
I really think we ought to standardize on something. I latched on to the sortable table idea as a possible solution because it allows the user to easily sort by medal type or by sport, which I think was the motivation behind the extra level of hierarchy of style #3. It also uses a certain amount of color coding (with the little medal icons) as per styles #3 and #6, but without excessive amounts of color, in my opinion. To be honest, I'm not 100% fond of those medal icons, but they do serve a useful purpose in a large sortable table and are not purely for decoration.
As you can see from my two "guinea pig" pages above, these tables would be used on both per-Games pages and also the summary per-nation pages (where an extra column for "Games" is added).
What do you folks think? Andrwsc 18:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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The USOC portraits of the US Olympic teams have been frequently used in bios of US Olympians. I myself uploaded many of these last year under fair use. However they are actually fair use replaceable of a living person, and it has since been determined that we cannot use these simply to show what the person looks like. As such, they will have to be deleted. Does anybody have any objection if I just delete them without having to tag and wait for a while? If people don't mind, then I am happy to delete their USOC fair use ones for them without the paperwork. Thanks, Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Without knowing that there was already a specific template for this award ({{ The Olympics Barnstar}}), I tried to outline a better message box for it, more compatible with our project (that yellow simply sucks!) and I created a new template ({{ The Olympics barnstar}}), which also shows an explanation on how to use it.
When I tried to capitalize all words moving the page to "The Olympics Barnstar", the conflict with the current template, showed me its existence. What I'd like to ask you is if you like the new version or prefer to keep the older one? In any case, I'll transfer the "documentation" text to the current template and delete the one I mistakenly created. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 01:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
It was getting a little messy here, so I archived. I looked through all the headings, though, first, and everything seems to be cleared up, except for the whole Nation at the Olympics thing. I'm not sure if we should open this back up or not right now (I'm leaning toward no) but I just wanted to remind people of the issue before I stowed it away in the archives. That seems to be it; don't be afraid to bring back a discussion if you see it fit. └ Jared┘┌ talk┐ 22:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I had started a discussion on Talk:Olympic sports, but would like to continue it here because it impacts a lot of pages. To recap, I have collected the number of events in each sport at each Games, and plan to update the table on Olympic sports to show the number of events inside each table cell instead of just a bullet to indicate whether or not the sport was included. The next thing I want to do with this data is update each of the main Games pages if necessary. Specifically, each of those pages has a section that is called "Sports", or "Medals awarded", or something else. Often, this section has a bulleted list of links, preceded by a rather lame intro (e.g. nothing more than "See the medal winners, ordered by sport:"). I'd like to standardize this section to use a similar layout on every Games page and to include the number of events. For example, what we have at 2008 Summer Olympics#Sports is pretty good. The only real issue I have with that specific page is that I think the section should be pulled out one level and given a better name (e.g. "Program of events").
I have collected all the numbers and can start updating pages, but of course, we will have some discrepancies for the really old Games. For example, I count 89 events in the 1900 Summer Olympics, but the IOC page here claims 95 events, which we dutifully repeat in the infobox at the top of the page. Interestingly, the IOC also shows 90 gold medals awarded (with a double gold in one equestrian event), which leaves us with 89 events, so I stand by that number.
As always, any comments about page layout suggestions, how to handle the discrepancies with the IOC pages, etc. are appreciated. Andrwsc 23:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
I've recently put this high-rated article on a FAC process and since then a very helpful editor ( User:JHMM13) took the hard job of copy-editing it entirely two times. Still, I believe an article of this importance should be analyzed and proofread by more users, knowing or not about the subject. Plus, Wikipedia's apparent "perfect prose" shaman (Tony1) has laid out some comments and you should know how demanding he is known for, as far as writing style is concerned :S
So please, anyone reading and willing, help me with this. Especially because I'm way out of his league of English writing, since I'm not native speaker. Thanks. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 02:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey all! This place is very quiet lately. Lots of work, I presume — here or in real life :)
Anyway, I had the idea of conceiving a logo for our project (about time!), on the line of the image proposal for our new userbox (which we later added provisionally to the announcements box) but without being simply an Olympic colours-shaded Athletics pictogram version.
What do you think? Parutakupiu talk || contribs 19:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi! I have made same contributions on early Olympic games and I have a question. On Cycling at the 1908 Summer Olympics - Men's tandem I have found a footnote, which says, that there is a discrepancy between the times and the qualification. But maybe the time for the German team is not right. [ [1]] reports the winning time for Germany with 2:55.6 and not 2:05.6. When the time was 2:55.6 this would clear up, why Barnard/Rushen moved up to the semifinal. I am not an expert, but 2:05.6 is about 20 seconds faster than the next fastest time in this event. With standing start and no tactics more than 57 km/h - I do not know, if this was possible in 1908? Also the footnote says, that there was a hard fight in heat 4 with a very close finish - maybe the reason for such a fast race in 2:25.0? The next fastest time was from heat 7 2:43.2, more than 37 seconds slower than the German team. Doma-w 03:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi! Do we usually add the medals, which competitors won in the 1906 Summer Olympics in the medal-template and/or in the category:medalists for their country? And are these medal winners in our database still "Summer Olympic medalists"? Thanks in advance! Doma-w 22:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I think, I need same help. Would somebody be so kind and have a look at this page: Gymnastics at the 1920 Summer Olympics and the history of this page? I only tried my best... Thanks in advance! Doma-w 19:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
For this/these Belgian water polo player(s) we have two differnet pages: Gérard Blitz (sportsman) and Gérard Blitz (entrepreneur). The first is shown as the Olympic medalist in 1920 and 1924 and the second is shown as the Olympic medalist in 1936. Also these pages and also the page Maurice Blitz explain their relationship.
My problem is, that de Wael, Mallon/Kamper and databaseOlympics credits all three medals to one and the same player. Wudarski and the IOC medal database report only the name Gérard Blitz without any comment, so there it is impossible to differ.
Do we have any further information? Thanks in advance! Doma-w 12:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that the 'Nation at yyyy summer olympics' navigational templates are all set to automatically collapse. This is odd because they are almost always the only navbox there. For example, United States at the 2006 Winter Olympics and Luxembourg at the 1912 Summer Olympics. The only navbox is collapsed. I think this is a bad idea and could easily be switched to autocollapse with AWB. Thank you. Reywas92 Talk 17:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I see, that is too big. But it will still be the only box on each page. I love navboxes, and I wish they were always uncollapsed, even on pages with many. Reywas92 Talk 19:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure it could be done with only the big ones, though 6 continents (N. America has a lot of countries). For consistancy, only do it for those since 2000 (or another date). Reywas92 Talk 20:28, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I just "created" the Category:Competitors at the 1908 Summer Olympics by country, by resorting the country subcategories in Category:Competitors at the 1908 Summer Olympics. But are the Olympic competitors categorized by Summer Olympics by country anywhere else on Wikipedia? If not, should they be? A ecis Brievenbus 12:03, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Meet 2012 Summer Olympics bids — the newest project article to be given the right to carry a little star! :D
I told you my next promotion goal would be an Olympics-related article. A big "thank you" and also my congratulations to the editors who had a hand in this task, especially Jared and also a non-member JHMM13. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 22:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi all. As you may or may not know, the 2007 Pan American Games are just around the corner. This is sparkling the creation of new articles covering events at those games (such as Swimming at the Pan American Games), as well as the articles pertaining to the 2007 Games, which are already picking up or should be as the Games approach. As you may notice, most of those articles will not be adhering to the standard formats that this Project has been looking to establish in order to raise the general quality of our coverage of Olympic sports (by the way, the Pan-Am Games follow the Olympic program, except for the inclusion of a few sports which are not Olympic, such as Bowling and Futsal). So I thought that the people more involved with this project might be interested in taking a look, and perhaps help those articles get started already at a higher standard. Notice that most, if not all, of the people who are or will be involved with creating those articles will not be familiar with this project or any of its concerted decisions regarding the standards for presenting sporting results. And in any event, we might look at it as some kind of "test event" for our coverage of next year's Summer Olympics maybe :). Cheers, Redux 19:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Do we have any agreement about the Olympic categories?
There was a question a few weeks ago (see above), but nobody answered.
I think it is really necessary to clean up all the categories, because there is much confusion.
Maybe we can also find a policy, how to categorize the competitors.
Thanks in advance! Doma-w 14:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
So where are we as far as this project? That's a really vague question, but I'm just curious as to what everyone is doing and where they're headed. I know ultimately our goal last time we spoke about goals was to ensure the 2004 pages were up to snuff, and it seems that's moving along slowly but surely. Other than that, I'm not too sure what else is going on, so maybe others could give everyone else a heads up if they're doing anything noteworthy, or moving in a noteworthy direction. (I haven't really been doing much because I've been caught in the crossfire between Raul654 and the rest of his supporters as FA director. I just have fundamental problems with the role he's playing.)
Anyway, that's it, I just thought I'd check in and see how everyone's doing. I don't think there's anything more we should be working towards, but if you can think of something, bring it up. Happy editing! └ Jared┘┌ t┐ 11:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Some of you may have seen some of the recent work I've done to individual event pages for judo at the 2004 Summer Olympics and taekwondo at the 2004 Summer Olympics. I've used the now-common tournament bracket templates on those pages to replace a list of match results. I think the end result is much clearer way to represent the tournament and to follow an individual's progress.
However, there are a few style issues that would be nice to have consensus on before I continue:
To help illustrate these style questions, here is the same result bracket showing the different style variations:
Round of 16 | Quarterfinals | Semifinals | Finals | ||||||||||||
Povetkin ( RUS) | RSCOS | ||||||||||||||
Rozhnov ( BUL) | 1:37 (4) | Povetkin ( RUS) | 31 | ||||||||||||
Köber ( GER) | 18 | Dildabekov ( KAZ) | 15 | ||||||||||||
Dildabekov ( KAZ) | 28 | Povetkin ( RUS) | 31 | ||||||||||||
Oluokun ( NGR) | 13 | Cammarelle ( ITA) | 19 | ||||||||||||
Cammarelle ( ITA) | 29 | Cammarelle ( ITA) | 23 | ||||||||||||
Mazikin ( UKR) | 23 | Mazikin ( UKR) | 21 | ||||||||||||
Apanasionak ( BLR) | 5 | Povetkin ( RUS) | WO | ||||||||||||
Aly ( EGY) | 32 | Aly ( EGY) | L | ||||||||||||
Takam ( CMR) | 19 | Aly ( EGY) | 19 | ||||||||||||
Bisbal ( PUR) | 17 | Jaksto ( LTU) | 11 | ||||||||||||
Jaksto ( LTU) | 26 | Aly ( EGY) | 18 | ||||||||||||
Núñez ( CUB) | 18 | Núñez ( CUB) | 16 | ||||||||||||
Saidov ( UZB) | 13 | Núñez ( CUB) | 21 | ||||||||||||
Estrada ( USA) | 30 | Estrada ( USA) | 7 | ||||||||||||
Hawke ( TGA) | 11 |
Round of 16 | Quarterfinals | Semifinals | Finals | ||||||||||||
Alexander Povetkin ( RUS) | RSCOS | ||||||||||||||
Sergey Rozhnov ( BUL) | 1:37 (4) | Povetkin | 31 | ||||||||||||
Sebastian Köber ( GER) | 18 | Dildabekov | 15 | ||||||||||||
Mukhtarkhan Dildabekov ( KAZ) | 28 | Povetkin | 31 | ||||||||||||
Gbenga Oluokun ( NGR) | 13 | Cammarelle | 19 | ||||||||||||
Roberto Cammarelle ( ITA) | 29 | Cammarelle | 23 | ||||||||||||
Oleksii Mazikin ( UKR) | 23 | Mazikin | 21 | ||||||||||||
Aliaksandr Apanasionak ( BLR) | 5 | Povetkin | WO | ||||||||||||
Mohamed Aly ( EGY) | 32 | Aly | L | ||||||||||||
Carlos Takam ( CMR) | 19 | Aly | 19 | ||||||||||||
Victor Bisbal ( PUR) | 17 | Jaksto | 11 | ||||||||||||
Jaroslav Jaksto ( LTU) | 26 | Aly | 18 | ||||||||||||
Michel López Núñez ( CUB) | 18 | Núñez | 16 | ||||||||||||
Rustam Saidov ( UZB) | 13 | Núñez | 21 | ||||||||||||
Jason Estrada ( USA) | 30 | Estrada | 7 | ||||||||||||
Ma'afu Hawke ( TGA) | 11 |
Comments welcome! Andrwsc 20:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
In the end, I think it would be nice something like this:
Round of 16 | Quarterfinals | Semifinals | Finals | ||||||||||||
Alexander Povetkin ( RUS) | RSCOS | ||||||||||||||
Sergey Rozhnov ( BUL) | 1:37 (4) | Povetkin ( RUS) | 31 | ||||||||||||
Sebastian Köber ( GER) | 18 | Dildabekov ( KAZ) | 15 | ||||||||||||
Mukhtarkhan Dildabekov ( KAZ) | 28 | Povetkin ( RUS) | 31 | ||||||||||||
Gbenga Oluokun ( NGR) | 13 | Cammarelle ( ITA) | 19 | ||||||||||||
Roberto Cammarelle ( ITA) | 29 | Cammarelle ( ITA) | 23 | ||||||||||||
Oleksii Mazikin ( UKR) | 23 | Mazikin ( UKR) | 21 | ||||||||||||
Aliaksandr Apanasionak ( BLR) | 5 | Povetkin ( RUS) | WO | ||||||||||||
Mohamed Aly ( EGY) | 32 | Aly ( EGY) | L | ||||||||||||
Carlos Takam ( CMR) | 19 | Aly ( EGY) | 19 | ||||||||||||
Victor Bisbal ( PUR) | 17 | Jaksto ( LTU) | 11 | ||||||||||||
Jaroslav Jaksto ( LTU) | 26 | Aly ( EGY) | 18 | ||||||||||||
Michel López Núñez ( CUB) | 18 | Núñez ( CUB) | 16 | ||||||||||||
Rustam Saidov ( UZB) | 13 | Núñez ( CUB) | 21 | ||||||||||||
Jason Estrada ( USA) | 30 | Estrada ( USA) | 7 | ||||||||||||
Ma'afu Hawke ( TGA) | 11 |
Notice I left the "team-width" parameter in blank, so it seems it avoids text-wraping on the first column... at least on my browser (Firefox). Don't know if it's the same on others. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 22:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I was writing my responses and I was edit conflicted! So I haven't read any of the above, but here's what I would say:
In response to the ones above now that I have read them, I like all preceding comments, and I think that the third mock up is the best. That works. └ Jared┘┌ t┐ 22:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, at least among the four of us it looks like we have consensus for the original style I used on the judo and taekwondo pages, so thanks to all for the quick feedback.
Also see Tennis at the 2004 Summer Olympics - Men's singles for another bracket style. Those results use the full name in every cell, which looks good, but they do not have the link (through the country code) to the appropriate nation article, which is something we are trying to consistently include.
For Doma-w, as for your updates to the football pages, those look perfect to me. The standard format for team sports brackets and results is well-defined, as used on World Cup pages etc., so I think your use of those templates for brackets and match results is spot-on. I think there are some variations with respect to individual sports, and I just want to make sure that all the Olympic articles are at least consistent. Andrwsc 23:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Just a minor clarification, but for consistency, should we get in the practice of bold-facing the winners of each match in the bracket, along with that person's score(s)? I think that it's helpful, but I noticed that I haven't been doing it myself. So just out of curiosity, I want to know what others think before I do it. └ Jared┘┌ t┐ 15:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I've created Youth Olympic Games; I've meant to do it since the end of April but I hadn't had the time. Anyway, I just thought I'd tell you in case you had no idea the IOC planned to do this; I thought it pretty interesting. Expand it or add images, etc, if you want. └ Jared┘┌ t┐ 14:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I am very sorry to tell you, that 20 international caps didn't save the footballer Henning Svensson from speedy deletion. So Sweden is missing one player from the Olympic squad in 1912. RIP Doma-w 01:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I have created four templates for this tournament. Sweden, Germany and Denmark survived. Sorrily the Netherlands disappeared. Once more a speedy deletion? I can not find it any more, now all the Dutch players have a fine, nice red link on their pages. It's a hard life for Olympic footballers (and Olympic bronze medalists) on wikipedia. Better not to waste my time any more? Doma-w 13:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I restored Henning Svensson (why waste time?), and discussion will take place on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henning Svensson. Your templates, on the other hand, may face a more bleak future.. Punkmorten 11:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
This user AnonEMouse has put an AfD tag on several "Nation at the Year Summer Olympics" type articles ( deletion page with a list of other tagged articles), just because they're almost-empty stubs for small nations which didn't win anything at those Games, therefore "lack notability". Shouldn't he at least have warned this project? Parutakupiu talk || contribs 17:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
The ones that are for the deletion don't realize that there are hundreds of pages like that, just waiting for their turn to be completed. If they just knew the work they're expecting in order to stick to their idea and delete all that isn't "noteworthy"... But they won't be forcing me to go on a article expansion ride, just because of deletion threats. In the end, what's the point of deleting articles that will eventually be recreated when their turn is reached? Parutakupiu talk || contribs 19:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Looks like I picked in the right day to stop by and check out the project. Sorry that I haven't been around much lately. A job search, family craziness and a new obsession has taken my attention to other places. -- Sue Anne 00:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I have some questions/problems:
Also there are some differences in the lists of the "participating nations":
Summer games | infobox | list of nations | reason |
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1960 | 83 | 84 | Suriname did not compete |
1964 | 93 | 94 | Libya did not compete |
1968 | 112 | 110 | Mali and Tanzania did compete |
1972 | 121 | 123 | |
1976 | 92 | 91 | Cameron did compete before the boycott, like Egypt, Morocco, and Tunisia |
1980 | 80 | 81 | Liberia did not compete, there were seven track and field athletes entered, but not a single one competed. |
1984 | 140 | 141 | Libya did not compete |
1988 | 159 | 160 | Brunei did not compete |
1992 | 169 | 173 | Afghanistan, Brunei, Liberia, and Somalia did not compete |
Thanks in advance! Doma-w 12:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
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Spain (different flag; the one you showed is a merchant ensign).{{flag|Afghanistan|1980}}
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Afghanistan.{{flagIOC|ESP|1928 Summer}}
shows the wrong flag. Someone changed this a few days ago, because there was always the right flag.{{flagIOC|AFG|1988 Summer}}
showns this:
Afghanistan{{flagIOC|BIZ|1976 Summer}}
shows the wrong flag. In 1976 the flag was
, but the name was Belize.
Doma-w 13:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC){{flagIOC|BIZ|1976 Summer}}
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Belize{{flagIOC|AFG|1988 Summer}}
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Afghanistan{{flagIOC|FIJ|1968 Summer}}
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Fiji{{flagIOC|ESP|1928 Summer}}
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Spain{{flagIOC|BUL|1968 Summer}}
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BulgariaOk, I did some digging around in the official reports, and discovered these:
I haven't looked at 1980+, but based on your descriptions, it sounds like they are similar situations to SUR in 1960 and LBA in 1964. Is that the case? If so, I think they should remain as "participated", but their articles need a similar intro to what was written for Virgin Islands in 2006. Andrwsc 18:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
In general:
In 1960 then we had to correct the infobox to 84 nations, but maybe we can write 83+1 and add a footnote, and also the same footnote to Suriname? Because I am not really happy to show these nations as "full" participating nations. In 1900 Summer Olympics we have four nations, which really competed and in the case of Luxembourg won a gold medal, but they were not counted. So in 1960 we count a nation, which we know that has not competed (Surimane), but in 1900 we do not count a nation, which we know that has won a gold medal? Maybe it will be possible to find a way.
In 1964 the infobox had to shown 93+1 (for Libya)
1968: still missing Tanzania. :) I know, it is very hard to find, but I have the same source: Vol.3 Athletics: Norman Chihota 100 metres/heat 9 and 200 metres/heat 1 (page 521 and 522) Claver Kamanya 400 metres/round 1/heat 1, round 2/heat 1 and semi-final 1 (page 521 and 522) John Akhwari marathon 57. and last finisher! :) (page 532)
Boxing: Middleweight (- 75 kg) Titos Simba What a pity! Maybe he was the second best boxer in this tournament! Losing in round 1 to Christopher Finnegan (GBR) - becoming Olympic champion and gold medailst! (page 609)
1972: the infobox says 121, but our list has 122 members. So what to do?
1976 perfect
1980: With Liberia we have 81 - the infobox says 80. Maybe also a footnote?
Doma-w 23:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
You will need to incorporate the Olympic Games of 1859, 1870, and 1875. The two participating countries were Greece and the Ottoman Empire. It only takes two countries to make an event international. Nipsonanomhmata 20:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks! Doma-w 12:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Note: at Template talk:MedalTop, new discussions are underway about what to do with the current setup of templates. Join the discussion if you want to help out! └ Jared┘┌ t┐ 15:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
On the new created pages like: Gymnastics at the 2004 Summer Olympics - Women's balance beam, the medalists are shown:
Gold |
Cătălina Ponor Romania |
Silver |
Carly Patterson United States |
Bronze |
Alexandra Eremia Romania |
Now I am a little bit confused, because I thought we will shown them like this:
Gold | Silver | Bronze |
Michel Théato Luxembourg |
Emile Champion France |
Ernst Fast Sweden |
Isn't the easiest way to shown them with {{Medallists}}?
The result can be seen e.g. here: Field hockey at the 1928 Summer Olympics.
Thanks! Doma-w 12:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Please have a look at: Stanley Nantais and Talk:Stanley Nantais This is a Canadian basketball player. He was in the squad for the Berlin Games, but he did not play in a single match and the IOC medal database did not list him as medalist. So the medalbox and the "cat:Olympic silver medalists for Canada" had to be deleted? But then the discussion will continue? Doma-w 21:48, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Could that be the worst Olympic logo ever?!? Sheesh. Andrwsc 18:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
It's now already at over 12000! I really don't like it either, and with pink color and block-style shapes, I don't think I'll get used to it very soon. My name is on the petition. Reywas92 Talk Review me 20:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
United States at the 1936 Summer Olympics shows the gymnast Alfred Joachim as flag bearer, but there are same sources which report the water polo player Wally O'Connor as flag bearer. Do we have any further information? Thanks. Doma-w 10:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
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I want to address are use of pictures in various Olympics-related articles. Specifically, I'm concerned with the use of photos in Cross-country skiing at the 2006 Winter Olympics. The main goal of Wikipedia is to create a free encyclopedia. These images do nothing to promote that goal, and they may harm the goal. While there is some claim of fair use, the copyright notice on the NBC Olympics pages make it clear that these images are not free, and not fair use.
© 2006 NBC Universal. All rights reserved. Any use reproduction, modification, distribution, display or performance of this material without NBC Universal's prior written consent is prohibited.
I think we are doing great work as part of this project, but I feel we need to pay much closer attention to making sure it's free work. -- Sue Anne 06:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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How about this for a new userbox? It's easier to identify as Olympic-related, I think... tiZom (2¢) 15:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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Oooh...how about this?
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I have been playing around with some different formats for listing medalists, and I'd like some feedback on some of my work. Please see Austria at the 1952 Winter Olympics and/or Algeria at the Olympics to see some examples. I used the sortable table class, and created some new templates so that the medal column would sort properly and the athletes would be sorted by last name. I rather like the results.
We have several different styles for presenting these lists, and it would be nice to standardize on one. Some random examples:
I really think we ought to standardize on something. I latched on to the sortable table idea as a possible solution because it allows the user to easily sort by medal type or by sport, which I think was the motivation behind the extra level of hierarchy of style #3. It also uses a certain amount of color coding (with the little medal icons) as per styles #3 and #6, but without excessive amounts of color, in my opinion. To be honest, I'm not 100% fond of those medal icons, but they do serve a useful purpose in a large sortable table and are not purely for decoration.
As you can see from my two "guinea pig" pages above, these tables would be used on both per-Games pages and also the summary per-nation pages (where an extra column for "Games" is added).
What do you folks think? Andrwsc 18:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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The USOC portraits of the US Olympic teams have been frequently used in bios of US Olympians. I myself uploaded many of these last year under fair use. However they are actually fair use replaceable of a living person, and it has since been determined that we cannot use these simply to show what the person looks like. As such, they will have to be deleted. Does anybody have any objection if I just delete them without having to tag and wait for a while? If people don't mind, then I am happy to delete their USOC fair use ones for them without the paperwork. Thanks, Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 03:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Without knowing that there was already a specific template for this award ({{ The Olympics Barnstar}}), I tried to outline a better message box for it, more compatible with our project (that yellow simply sucks!) and I created a new template ({{ The Olympics barnstar}}), which also shows an explanation on how to use it.
When I tried to capitalize all words moving the page to "The Olympics Barnstar", the conflict with the current template, showed me its existence. What I'd like to ask you is if you like the new version or prefer to keep the older one? In any case, I'll transfer the "documentation" text to the current template and delete the one I mistakenly created. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 01:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
It was getting a little messy here, so I archived. I looked through all the headings, though, first, and everything seems to be cleared up, except for the whole Nation at the Olympics thing. I'm not sure if we should open this back up or not right now (I'm leaning toward no) but I just wanted to remind people of the issue before I stowed it away in the archives. That seems to be it; don't be afraid to bring back a discussion if you see it fit. └ Jared┘┌ talk┐ 22:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I had started a discussion on Talk:Olympic sports, but would like to continue it here because it impacts a lot of pages. To recap, I have collected the number of events in each sport at each Games, and plan to update the table on Olympic sports to show the number of events inside each table cell instead of just a bullet to indicate whether or not the sport was included. The next thing I want to do with this data is update each of the main Games pages if necessary. Specifically, each of those pages has a section that is called "Sports", or "Medals awarded", or something else. Often, this section has a bulleted list of links, preceded by a rather lame intro (e.g. nothing more than "See the medal winners, ordered by sport:"). I'd like to standardize this section to use a similar layout on every Games page and to include the number of events. For example, what we have at 2008 Summer Olympics#Sports is pretty good. The only real issue I have with that specific page is that I think the section should be pulled out one level and given a better name (e.g. "Program of events").
I have collected all the numbers and can start updating pages, but of course, we will have some discrepancies for the really old Games. For example, I count 89 events in the 1900 Summer Olympics, but the IOC page here claims 95 events, which we dutifully repeat in the infobox at the top of the page. Interestingly, the IOC also shows 90 gold medals awarded (with a double gold in one equestrian event), which leaves us with 89 events, so I stand by that number.
As always, any comments about page layout suggestions, how to handle the discrepancies with the IOC pages, etc. are appreciated. Andrwsc 23:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
I've recently put this high-rated article on a FAC process and since then a very helpful editor ( User:JHMM13) took the hard job of copy-editing it entirely two times. Still, I believe an article of this importance should be analyzed and proofread by more users, knowing or not about the subject. Plus, Wikipedia's apparent "perfect prose" shaman (Tony1) has laid out some comments and you should know how demanding he is known for, as far as writing style is concerned :S
So please, anyone reading and willing, help me with this. Especially because I'm way out of his league of English writing, since I'm not native speaker. Thanks. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 02:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey all! This place is very quiet lately. Lots of work, I presume — here or in real life :)
Anyway, I had the idea of conceiving a logo for our project (about time!), on the line of the image proposal for our new userbox (which we later added provisionally to the announcements box) but without being simply an Olympic colours-shaded Athletics pictogram version.
What do you think? Parutakupiu talk || contribs 19:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi! I have made same contributions on early Olympic games and I have a question. On Cycling at the 1908 Summer Olympics - Men's tandem I have found a footnote, which says, that there is a discrepancy between the times and the qualification. But maybe the time for the German team is not right. [ [1]] reports the winning time for Germany with 2:55.6 and not 2:05.6. When the time was 2:55.6 this would clear up, why Barnard/Rushen moved up to the semifinal. I am not an expert, but 2:05.6 is about 20 seconds faster than the next fastest time in this event. With standing start and no tactics more than 57 km/h - I do not know, if this was possible in 1908? Also the footnote says, that there was a hard fight in heat 4 with a very close finish - maybe the reason for such a fast race in 2:25.0? The next fastest time was from heat 7 2:43.2, more than 37 seconds slower than the German team. Doma-w 03:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi! Do we usually add the medals, which competitors won in the 1906 Summer Olympics in the medal-template and/or in the category:medalists for their country? And are these medal winners in our database still "Summer Olympic medalists"? Thanks in advance! Doma-w 22:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I think, I need same help. Would somebody be so kind and have a look at this page: Gymnastics at the 1920 Summer Olympics and the history of this page? I only tried my best... Thanks in advance! Doma-w 19:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
For this/these Belgian water polo player(s) we have two differnet pages: Gérard Blitz (sportsman) and Gérard Blitz (entrepreneur). The first is shown as the Olympic medalist in 1920 and 1924 and the second is shown as the Olympic medalist in 1936. Also these pages and also the page Maurice Blitz explain their relationship.
My problem is, that de Wael, Mallon/Kamper and databaseOlympics credits all three medals to one and the same player. Wudarski and the IOC medal database report only the name Gérard Blitz without any comment, so there it is impossible to differ.
Do we have any further information? Thanks in advance! Doma-w 12:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that the 'Nation at yyyy summer olympics' navigational templates are all set to automatically collapse. This is odd because they are almost always the only navbox there. For example, United States at the 2006 Winter Olympics and Luxembourg at the 1912 Summer Olympics. The only navbox is collapsed. I think this is a bad idea and could easily be switched to autocollapse with AWB. Thank you. Reywas92 Talk 17:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I see, that is too big. But it will still be the only box on each page. I love navboxes, and I wish they were always uncollapsed, even on pages with many. Reywas92 Talk 19:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure it could be done with only the big ones, though 6 continents (N. America has a lot of countries). For consistancy, only do it for those since 2000 (or another date). Reywas92 Talk 20:28, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I just "created" the Category:Competitors at the 1908 Summer Olympics by country, by resorting the country subcategories in Category:Competitors at the 1908 Summer Olympics. But are the Olympic competitors categorized by Summer Olympics by country anywhere else on Wikipedia? If not, should they be? A ecis Brievenbus 12:03, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Meet 2012 Summer Olympics bids — the newest project article to be given the right to carry a little star! :D
I told you my next promotion goal would be an Olympics-related article. A big "thank you" and also my congratulations to the editors who had a hand in this task, especially Jared and also a non-member JHMM13. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 22:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi all. As you may or may not know, the 2007 Pan American Games are just around the corner. This is sparkling the creation of new articles covering events at those games (such as Swimming at the Pan American Games), as well as the articles pertaining to the 2007 Games, which are already picking up or should be as the Games approach. As you may notice, most of those articles will not be adhering to the standard formats that this Project has been looking to establish in order to raise the general quality of our coverage of Olympic sports (by the way, the Pan-Am Games follow the Olympic program, except for the inclusion of a few sports which are not Olympic, such as Bowling and Futsal). So I thought that the people more involved with this project might be interested in taking a look, and perhaps help those articles get started already at a higher standard. Notice that most, if not all, of the people who are or will be involved with creating those articles will not be familiar with this project or any of its concerted decisions regarding the standards for presenting sporting results. And in any event, we might look at it as some kind of "test event" for our coverage of next year's Summer Olympics maybe :). Cheers, Redux 19:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Do we have any agreement about the Olympic categories?
There was a question a few weeks ago (see above), but nobody answered.
I think it is really necessary to clean up all the categories, because there is much confusion.
Maybe we can also find a policy, how to categorize the competitors.
Thanks in advance! Doma-w 14:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
So where are we as far as this project? That's a really vague question, but I'm just curious as to what everyone is doing and where they're headed. I know ultimately our goal last time we spoke about goals was to ensure the 2004 pages were up to snuff, and it seems that's moving along slowly but surely. Other than that, I'm not too sure what else is going on, so maybe others could give everyone else a heads up if they're doing anything noteworthy, or moving in a noteworthy direction. (I haven't really been doing much because I've been caught in the crossfire between Raul654 and the rest of his supporters as FA director. I just have fundamental problems with the role he's playing.)
Anyway, that's it, I just thought I'd check in and see how everyone's doing. I don't think there's anything more we should be working towards, but if you can think of something, bring it up. Happy editing! └ Jared┘┌ t┐ 11:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Some of you may have seen some of the recent work I've done to individual event pages for judo at the 2004 Summer Olympics and taekwondo at the 2004 Summer Olympics. I've used the now-common tournament bracket templates on those pages to replace a list of match results. I think the end result is much clearer way to represent the tournament and to follow an individual's progress.
However, there are a few style issues that would be nice to have consensus on before I continue:
To help illustrate these style questions, here is the same result bracket showing the different style variations:
Round of 16 | Quarterfinals | Semifinals | Finals | ||||||||||||
Povetkin ( RUS) | RSCOS | ||||||||||||||
Rozhnov ( BUL) | 1:37 (4) | Povetkin ( RUS) | 31 | ||||||||||||
Köber ( GER) | 18 | Dildabekov ( KAZ) | 15 | ||||||||||||
Dildabekov ( KAZ) | 28 | Povetkin ( RUS) | 31 | ||||||||||||
Oluokun ( NGR) | 13 | Cammarelle ( ITA) | 19 | ||||||||||||
Cammarelle ( ITA) | 29 | Cammarelle ( ITA) | 23 | ||||||||||||
Mazikin ( UKR) | 23 | Mazikin ( UKR) | 21 | ||||||||||||
Apanasionak ( BLR) | 5 | Povetkin ( RUS) | WO | ||||||||||||
Aly ( EGY) | 32 | Aly ( EGY) | L | ||||||||||||
Takam ( CMR) | 19 | Aly ( EGY) | 19 | ||||||||||||
Bisbal ( PUR) | 17 | Jaksto ( LTU) | 11 | ||||||||||||
Jaksto ( LTU) | 26 | Aly ( EGY) | 18 | ||||||||||||
Núñez ( CUB) | 18 | Núñez ( CUB) | 16 | ||||||||||||
Saidov ( UZB) | 13 | Núñez ( CUB) | 21 | ||||||||||||
Estrada ( USA) | 30 | Estrada ( USA) | 7 | ||||||||||||
Hawke ( TGA) | 11 |
Round of 16 | Quarterfinals | Semifinals | Finals | ||||||||||||
Alexander Povetkin ( RUS) | RSCOS | ||||||||||||||
Sergey Rozhnov ( BUL) | 1:37 (4) | Povetkin | 31 | ||||||||||||
Sebastian Köber ( GER) | 18 | Dildabekov | 15 | ||||||||||||
Mukhtarkhan Dildabekov ( KAZ) | 28 | Povetkin | 31 | ||||||||||||
Gbenga Oluokun ( NGR) | 13 | Cammarelle | 19 | ||||||||||||
Roberto Cammarelle ( ITA) | 29 | Cammarelle | 23 | ||||||||||||
Oleksii Mazikin ( UKR) | 23 | Mazikin | 21 | ||||||||||||
Aliaksandr Apanasionak ( BLR) | 5 | Povetkin | WO | ||||||||||||
Mohamed Aly ( EGY) | 32 | Aly | L | ||||||||||||
Carlos Takam ( CMR) | 19 | Aly | 19 | ||||||||||||
Victor Bisbal ( PUR) | 17 | Jaksto | 11 | ||||||||||||
Jaroslav Jaksto ( LTU) | 26 | Aly | 18 | ||||||||||||
Michel López Núñez ( CUB) | 18 | Núñez | 16 | ||||||||||||
Rustam Saidov ( UZB) | 13 | Núñez | 21 | ||||||||||||
Jason Estrada ( USA) | 30 | Estrada | 7 | ||||||||||||
Ma'afu Hawke ( TGA) | 11 |
Comments welcome! Andrwsc 20:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
In the end, I think it would be nice something like this:
Round of 16 | Quarterfinals | Semifinals | Finals | ||||||||||||
Alexander Povetkin ( RUS) | RSCOS | ||||||||||||||
Sergey Rozhnov ( BUL) | 1:37 (4) | Povetkin ( RUS) | 31 | ||||||||||||
Sebastian Köber ( GER) | 18 | Dildabekov ( KAZ) | 15 | ||||||||||||
Mukhtarkhan Dildabekov ( KAZ) | 28 | Povetkin ( RUS) | 31 | ||||||||||||
Gbenga Oluokun ( NGR) | 13 | Cammarelle ( ITA) | 19 | ||||||||||||
Roberto Cammarelle ( ITA) | 29 | Cammarelle ( ITA) | 23 | ||||||||||||
Oleksii Mazikin ( UKR) | 23 | Mazikin ( UKR) | 21 | ||||||||||||
Aliaksandr Apanasionak ( BLR) | 5 | Povetkin ( RUS) | WO | ||||||||||||
Mohamed Aly ( EGY) | 32 | Aly ( EGY) | L | ||||||||||||
Carlos Takam ( CMR) | 19 | Aly ( EGY) | 19 | ||||||||||||
Victor Bisbal ( PUR) | 17 | Jaksto ( LTU) | 11 | ||||||||||||
Jaroslav Jaksto ( LTU) | 26 | Aly ( EGY) | 18 | ||||||||||||
Michel López Núñez ( CUB) | 18 | Núñez ( CUB) | 16 | ||||||||||||
Rustam Saidov ( UZB) | 13 | Núñez ( CUB) | 21 | ||||||||||||
Jason Estrada ( USA) | 30 | Estrada ( USA) | 7 | ||||||||||||
Ma'afu Hawke ( TGA) | 11 |
Notice I left the "team-width" parameter in blank, so it seems it avoids text-wraping on the first column... at least on my browser (Firefox). Don't know if it's the same on others. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 22:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I was writing my responses and I was edit conflicted! So I haven't read any of the above, but here's what I would say:
In response to the ones above now that I have read them, I like all preceding comments, and I think that the third mock up is the best. That works. └ Jared┘┌ t┐ 22:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, at least among the four of us it looks like we have consensus for the original style I used on the judo and taekwondo pages, so thanks to all for the quick feedback.
Also see Tennis at the 2004 Summer Olympics - Men's singles for another bracket style. Those results use the full name in every cell, which looks good, but they do not have the link (through the country code) to the appropriate nation article, which is something we are trying to consistently include.
For Doma-w, as for your updates to the football pages, those look perfect to me. The standard format for team sports brackets and results is well-defined, as used on World Cup pages etc., so I think your use of those templates for brackets and match results is spot-on. I think there are some variations with respect to individual sports, and I just want to make sure that all the Olympic articles are at least consistent. Andrwsc 23:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Just a minor clarification, but for consistency, should we get in the practice of bold-facing the winners of each match in the bracket, along with that person's score(s)? I think that it's helpful, but I noticed that I haven't been doing it myself. So just out of curiosity, I want to know what others think before I do it. └ Jared┘┌ t┐ 15:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I've created Youth Olympic Games; I've meant to do it since the end of April but I hadn't had the time. Anyway, I just thought I'd tell you in case you had no idea the IOC planned to do this; I thought it pretty interesting. Expand it or add images, etc, if you want. └ Jared┘┌ t┐ 14:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I am very sorry to tell you, that 20 international caps didn't save the footballer Henning Svensson from speedy deletion. So Sweden is missing one player from the Olympic squad in 1912. RIP Doma-w 01:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I have created four templates for this tournament. Sweden, Germany and Denmark survived. Sorrily the Netherlands disappeared. Once more a speedy deletion? I can not find it any more, now all the Dutch players have a fine, nice red link on their pages. It's a hard life for Olympic footballers (and Olympic bronze medalists) on wikipedia. Better not to waste my time any more? Doma-w 13:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
I restored Henning Svensson (why waste time?), and discussion will take place on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henning Svensson. Your templates, on the other hand, may face a more bleak future.. Punkmorten 11:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
This user AnonEMouse has put an AfD tag on several "Nation at the Year Summer Olympics" type articles ( deletion page with a list of other tagged articles), just because they're almost-empty stubs for small nations which didn't win anything at those Games, therefore "lack notability". Shouldn't he at least have warned this project? Parutakupiu talk || contribs 17:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
The ones that are for the deletion don't realize that there are hundreds of pages like that, just waiting for their turn to be completed. If they just knew the work they're expecting in order to stick to their idea and delete all that isn't "noteworthy"... But they won't be forcing me to go on a article expansion ride, just because of deletion threats. In the end, what's the point of deleting articles that will eventually be recreated when their turn is reached? Parutakupiu talk || contribs 19:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Looks like I picked in the right day to stop by and check out the project. Sorry that I haven't been around much lately. A job search, family craziness and a new obsession has taken my attention to other places. -- Sue Anne 00:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I have some questions/problems:
Also there are some differences in the lists of the "participating nations":
Summer games | infobox | list of nations | reason |
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1960 | 83 | 84 | Suriname did not compete |
1964 | 93 | 94 | Libya did not compete |
1968 | 112 | 110 | Mali and Tanzania did compete |
1972 | 121 | 123 | |
1976 | 92 | 91 | Cameron did compete before the boycott, like Egypt, Morocco, and Tunisia |
1980 | 80 | 81 | Liberia did not compete, there were seven track and field athletes entered, but not a single one competed. |
1984 | 140 | 141 | Libya did not compete |
1988 | 159 | 160 | Brunei did not compete |
1992 | 169 | 173 | Afghanistan, Brunei, Liberia, and Somalia did not compete |
Thanks in advance! Doma-w 12:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
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Spain (different flag; the one you showed is a merchant ensign).{{flag|Afghanistan|1980}}
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Afghanistan.{{flagIOC|ESP|1928 Summer}}
shows the wrong flag. Someone changed this a few days ago, because there was always the right flag.{{flagIOC|AFG|1988 Summer}}
showns this:
Afghanistan{{flagIOC|BIZ|1976 Summer}}
shows the wrong flag. In 1976 the flag was
, but the name was Belize.
Doma-w 13:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC){{flagIOC|BIZ|1976 Summer}}
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Belize{{flagIOC|AFG|1988 Summer}}
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Afghanistan{{flagIOC|FIJ|1968 Summer}}
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Fiji{{flagIOC|ESP|1928 Summer}}
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Spain{{flagIOC|BUL|1968 Summer}}
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BulgariaOk, I did some digging around in the official reports, and discovered these:
I haven't looked at 1980+, but based on your descriptions, it sounds like they are similar situations to SUR in 1960 and LBA in 1964. Is that the case? If so, I think they should remain as "participated", but their articles need a similar intro to what was written for Virgin Islands in 2006. Andrwsc 18:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
In general:
In 1960 then we had to correct the infobox to 84 nations, but maybe we can write 83+1 and add a footnote, and also the same footnote to Suriname? Because I am not really happy to show these nations as "full" participating nations. In 1900 Summer Olympics we have four nations, which really competed and in the case of Luxembourg won a gold medal, but they were not counted. So in 1960 we count a nation, which we know that has not competed (Surimane), but in 1900 we do not count a nation, which we know that has won a gold medal? Maybe it will be possible to find a way.
In 1964 the infobox had to shown 93+1 (for Libya)
1968: still missing Tanzania. :) I know, it is very hard to find, but I have the same source: Vol.3 Athletics: Norman Chihota 100 metres/heat 9 and 200 metres/heat 1 (page 521 and 522) Claver Kamanya 400 metres/round 1/heat 1, round 2/heat 1 and semi-final 1 (page 521 and 522) John Akhwari marathon 57. and last finisher! :) (page 532)
Boxing: Middleweight (- 75 kg) Titos Simba What a pity! Maybe he was the second best boxer in this tournament! Losing in round 1 to Christopher Finnegan (GBR) - becoming Olympic champion and gold medailst! (page 609)
1972: the infobox says 121, but our list has 122 members. So what to do?
1976 perfect
1980: With Liberia we have 81 - the infobox says 80. Maybe also a footnote?
Doma-w 23:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
You will need to incorporate the Olympic Games of 1859, 1870, and 1875. The two participating countries were Greece and the Ottoman Empire. It only takes two countries to make an event international. Nipsonanomhmata 20:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks! Doma-w 12:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Note: at Template talk:MedalTop, new discussions are underway about what to do with the current setup of templates. Join the discussion if you want to help out! └ Jared┘┌ t┐ 15:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
On the new created pages like: Gymnastics at the 2004 Summer Olympics - Women's balance beam, the medalists are shown:
Gold |
Cătălina Ponor Romania |
Silver |
Carly Patterson United States |
Bronze |
Alexandra Eremia Romania |
Now I am a little bit confused, because I thought we will shown them like this:
Gold | Silver | Bronze |
Michel Théato Luxembourg |
Emile Champion France |
Ernst Fast Sweden |
Isn't the easiest way to shown them with {{Medallists}}?
The result can be seen e.g. here: Field hockey at the 1928 Summer Olympics.
Thanks! Doma-w 12:45, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Please have a look at: Stanley Nantais and Talk:Stanley Nantais This is a Canadian basketball player. He was in the squad for the Berlin Games, but he did not play in a single match and the IOC medal database did not list him as medalist. So the medalbox and the "cat:Olympic silver medalists for Canada" had to be deleted? But then the discussion will continue? Doma-w 21:48, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Could that be the worst Olympic logo ever?!? Sheesh. Andrwsc 18:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
It's now already at over 12000! I really don't like it either, and with pink color and block-style shapes, I don't think I'll get used to it very soon. My name is on the petition. Reywas92 Talk Review me 20:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
United States at the 1936 Summer Olympics shows the gymnast Alfred Joachim as flag bearer, but there are same sources which report the water polo player Wally O'Connor as flag bearer. Do we have any further information? Thanks. Doma-w 10:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)