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Can someone point out exactly where it says that NPOV does not apply to userspace? I was under the impression that "community policies ... apply to your user space just as they do elsewhere" ( WP:UP). 81.104.165.184 18:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
POV cannot be banned on userpages, it's utterly impossible. Why? Simply because Userpages are not collaborative, they are automatically an unbalanced POV piece. Personal attacks and polemical material are still banned on userpages, but any statement made on your userpage is implied to be your opinion automatically. However, it is for this exact reason that they shouldn't be considered offensive to anyone until they reach a much higher degree than an article would. Anything on your userpage, since it is being directly stated by you, has the implied logical beginning "I believe that..." Example: (I believe that) My name is Beric Jones. (I believe that) I am a 22 year old law student in Virginia. (I believe that) Anyone who smokes pot will go to hell.
When you think about it that way, you'll notice that unless he is lying they are all true statements, he does believe those things. (The last one is polemical though and should still be removed.) -- tjstrf 23:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
The point isn't POV. To frame it thusly is to invite the retort, WP:NPOV. The relevant policy is the first: Wikipedia is an encylopedia; q.v. WP:NOT. Timothy Usher 23:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
For anyone still watching this, I'm moving for the repealing of criterion for speedy deletion T1. I invite your opinions and discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Removal_of_T1_redux. Dcoetzee 03:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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Can someone point out exactly where it says that NPOV does not apply to userspace? I was under the impression that "community policies ... apply to your user space just as they do elsewhere" ( WP:UP). 81.104.165.184 18:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
POV cannot be banned on userpages, it's utterly impossible. Why? Simply because Userpages are not collaborative, they are automatically an unbalanced POV piece. Personal attacks and polemical material are still banned on userpages, but any statement made on your userpage is implied to be your opinion automatically. However, it is for this exact reason that they shouldn't be considered offensive to anyone until they reach a much higher degree than an article would. Anything on your userpage, since it is being directly stated by you, has the implied logical beginning "I believe that..." Example: (I believe that) My name is Beric Jones. (I believe that) I am a 22 year old law student in Virginia. (I believe that) Anyone who smokes pot will go to hell.
When you think about it that way, you'll notice that unless he is lying they are all true statements, he does believe those things. (The last one is polemical though and should still be removed.) -- tjstrf 23:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
The point isn't POV. To frame it thusly is to invite the retort, WP:NPOV. The relevant policy is the first: Wikipedia is an encylopedia; q.v. WP:NOT. Timothy Usher 23:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
For anyone still watching this, I'm moving for the repealing of criterion for speedy deletion T1. I invite your opinions and discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Removal_of_T1_redux. Dcoetzee 03:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)