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Good job! I think perhaps a lighter shade of green might be in order. The current issue was a bit hard to read. The List of colors might be a good place to find other options. Also, it's now defunct, but the old WikiProject Wine newsletter used to be really great. One feature I remember liking was the interview with a member of the project. Maybe not quite as broad and applicable for our topic, but it might be a good way for people to hear different approaches to reviewing. Again, good work - VanTucky Talk 02:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
See User:Anonymous Dissident/List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs. Anyone think it would be an interesting idea to create something like this for amount of successful GA noms or to keep track of number of GA reviews someone has done? It could then be put in the newsletter in a small subsection. Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 03:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC).
I wrote, and run, user:Rick Bot which (among other things) maintains WP:WBFAN. The bot essentially recreates WP:WBFAN every time I run it based on the content of the by-year lists, like Wikipedia:Featured articles nominated in 2007. These are in turn maintained by the bot, but only semi-automatically, by parsing the nominated article name and nominator from the monthly FAC archive files (e.g. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log/October 2007). The bot gets the article name right 100% of the time, but the nominator is identified correctly only 80-90% so I run the bot manually assisted (it suggests a nominator and I confirm its choice or enter a correction). To make the counts roughly right, I've created by-year lists back to when WP:FA first started by parsing the historical FAC archives and manually augmenting these so that every article in WP:FA (and WP:FFA) has an entry (the bot checks every time it runs whether all FA and FFA articles are accounted for in WBFAN).
I'm working on a tool to automate WP:DYK recognition. At this point, it can create lists like Wikipedia:Recent additions 145/History based on the DYK archives but it's not 100% accurate (so takes manual proofing) and isn't hooked into any automatic update mechanism. The DYK tool has been significantly more difficult than the FA tool since it's based on parsing historical versions of the DYK nomination page ( T:TDYK) which are nowhere near as regular as the FAC archives.
To do something similar for GA would require deciding what to recognize and figuring out from where and how to mine this information. The what to recognize is not as clear to me as for FAC since it seems nominating something for GA does not carry the same sort of responsibility as a FAC nomination. Should we recognize all nominations or only successful noms? All reviews so a quick-fail, fail, and pass all count the same, or only "pass" reviews (recognizing only passes would seem to encourage reviewers to pass anything while recognizing any review might encourage quick-fails as a low effort way to get a review credit). Looking at the current GA process (by the way, was it ever different?), I think nominations could be parsed from historical versions of WP:GAN. Since these are at least currently template-based, rather than free-format, the nominator and nominated articles could be identified with pretty close to 100% accuracy. Reviews seem to be trickier. Is removing a nom request sufficient indication that a user performed a review? Do reviewers always update the page's talk page? I think the bottom line is that there are significant issues regarding any GA recognition mechanism (bot-assisted or not) that would need to get worked out.
BTW - there are also Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by featured list nominations and Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by featured portal nominations (as far as I know both manually maintained), but nothing similar for Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. -- Rick Block ( talk) 17:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
My feeling:
Maybe we can have a section for reviews about common MoS that are often overlooked in GA Reviews? Some things off the top of my mind:
Etc. etc. Useful for new reviewers and nominators alike. Would be an ice collaborative effort.
Also maybe a section settling the "references in the lead" issues once and for all. Just my thoughts. Cheers, CP 22:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
It seems to me that it would be more useful to have one talk page at
Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Newsletter rather than one talk page per issue. If there are no objections I will move this talk page there and tweak it for such a purpose. (Thanks to me, this would involve fixing a lot of double redirects from User talk pages, but I'm willing to do it.)
Geometry guy 01:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
If interested, the current completion rate of the GA sweeps can be included. I added a progress table to the top of the running total of swept articles. It may not be extremely accurate, but still gives an acceptable estimate of the current progress. If anyone wants to tinker with the table more, please go ahead. At our current rate, the sweeps is going to take more than a year to complete. -- Nehrams2020 08:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Looks great, guys. Very good work! Lara ❤ Love 01:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, It's written in the newsletter that there is a "GA sweeps work" to review GA articles. I believe similar issue should be done for FA articles. I proposed it in July but they didn't accept it and I didn't have enough time to follow the issue.( here). Now you have a good experience and you can persuade them to do similar work.-- Seyyed( t- c) 03:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
We're looking for new ideas and contributors for January 2008 issue. Please post your suggestions here (until a newsroom page is created). OhanaUnited Talk page 23:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I believe the GA statistics section should highlight GAs that are currently also WP:FACs to encourage people to try to make the leap from GA to FA. I'm not sure if it should be in a numerical form (ie. 7 GAs are currently at FAC) or if they should explicitly name the articles. - Malkinann ( talk) 23:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I just saw that this has become active again. Is there any chance of someone sorting out talk page delivery? — Tom Morris ( talk) 23:58, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Leave comments on the WikiProject Good Articles newsletters here.
Good job! I think perhaps a lighter shade of green might be in order. The current issue was a bit hard to read. The List of colors might be a good place to find other options. Also, it's now defunct, but the old WikiProject Wine newsletter used to be really great. One feature I remember liking was the interview with a member of the project. Maybe not quite as broad and applicable for our topic, but it might be a good way for people to hear different approaches to reviewing. Again, good work - VanTucky Talk 02:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
See User:Anonymous Dissident/List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs. Anyone think it would be an interesting idea to create something like this for amount of successful GA noms or to keep track of number of GA reviews someone has done? It could then be put in the newsletter in a small subsection. Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 03:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC).
I wrote, and run, user:Rick Bot which (among other things) maintains WP:WBFAN. The bot essentially recreates WP:WBFAN every time I run it based on the content of the by-year lists, like Wikipedia:Featured articles nominated in 2007. These are in turn maintained by the bot, but only semi-automatically, by parsing the nominated article name and nominator from the monthly FAC archive files (e.g. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log/October 2007). The bot gets the article name right 100% of the time, but the nominator is identified correctly only 80-90% so I run the bot manually assisted (it suggests a nominator and I confirm its choice or enter a correction). To make the counts roughly right, I've created by-year lists back to when WP:FA first started by parsing the historical FAC archives and manually augmenting these so that every article in WP:FA (and WP:FFA) has an entry (the bot checks every time it runs whether all FA and FFA articles are accounted for in WBFAN).
I'm working on a tool to automate WP:DYK recognition. At this point, it can create lists like Wikipedia:Recent additions 145/History based on the DYK archives but it's not 100% accurate (so takes manual proofing) and isn't hooked into any automatic update mechanism. The DYK tool has been significantly more difficult than the FA tool since it's based on parsing historical versions of the DYK nomination page ( T:TDYK) which are nowhere near as regular as the FAC archives.
To do something similar for GA would require deciding what to recognize and figuring out from where and how to mine this information. The what to recognize is not as clear to me as for FAC since it seems nominating something for GA does not carry the same sort of responsibility as a FAC nomination. Should we recognize all nominations or only successful noms? All reviews so a quick-fail, fail, and pass all count the same, or only "pass" reviews (recognizing only passes would seem to encourage reviewers to pass anything while recognizing any review might encourage quick-fails as a low effort way to get a review credit). Looking at the current GA process (by the way, was it ever different?), I think nominations could be parsed from historical versions of WP:GAN. Since these are at least currently template-based, rather than free-format, the nominator and nominated articles could be identified with pretty close to 100% accuracy. Reviews seem to be trickier. Is removing a nom request sufficient indication that a user performed a review? Do reviewers always update the page's talk page? I think the bottom line is that there are significant issues regarding any GA recognition mechanism (bot-assisted or not) that would need to get worked out.
BTW - there are also Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by featured list nominations and Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by featured portal nominations (as far as I know both manually maintained), but nothing similar for Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. -- Rick Block ( talk) 17:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
My feeling:
Maybe we can have a section for reviews about common MoS that are often overlooked in GA Reviews? Some things off the top of my mind:
Etc. etc. Useful for new reviewers and nominators alike. Would be an ice collaborative effort.
Also maybe a section settling the "references in the lead" issues once and for all. Just my thoughts. Cheers, CP 22:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
It seems to me that it would be more useful to have one talk page at
Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Newsletter rather than one talk page per issue. If there are no objections I will move this talk page there and tweak it for such a purpose. (Thanks to me, this would involve fixing a lot of double redirects from User talk pages, but I'm willing to do it.)
Geometry guy 01:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
If interested, the current completion rate of the GA sweeps can be included. I added a progress table to the top of the running total of swept articles. It may not be extremely accurate, but still gives an acceptable estimate of the current progress. If anyone wants to tinker with the table more, please go ahead. At our current rate, the sweeps is going to take more than a year to complete. -- Nehrams2020 08:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Looks great, guys. Very good work! Lara ❤ Love 01:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, It's written in the newsletter that there is a "GA sweeps work" to review GA articles. I believe similar issue should be done for FA articles. I proposed it in July but they didn't accept it and I didn't have enough time to follow the issue.( here). Now you have a good experience and you can persuade them to do similar work.-- Seyyed( t- c) 03:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
We're looking for new ideas and contributors for January 2008 issue. Please post your suggestions here (until a newsroom page is created). OhanaUnited Talk page 23:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I believe the GA statistics section should highlight GAs that are currently also WP:FACs to encourage people to try to make the leap from GA to FA. I'm not sure if it should be in a numerical form (ie. 7 GAs are currently at FAC) or if they should explicitly name the articles. - Malkinann ( talk) 23:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I just saw that this has become active again. Is there any chance of someone sorting out talk page delivery? — Tom Morris ( talk) 23:58, 29 December 2012 (UTC)