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Wikipedia:Don't bold your !votes has been listed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Don't bold your !votes. -- Softlavender ( talk) 10:19, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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BullRangifer}} {
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06:56, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
This essay in project namespace was started by a fellow wikipedian for a purpose, and their original intentions should be respected. The essay should not be hijacked by seeking to totally change the viewpoints without consulting the original author. Instead, seek to preserve and build upon their efforts. If you are really dissatisfied with the viewpoints of this essay, then consider creating your own to provide a rebuttal or alternative view. |
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BullRangifer}} {
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05:06, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
This obviously has to do with ownership, and I understand the concern with ownership behavior and have studied it before making this template. It's a fine line to walk! The guideline for essays has the following to say about essays in namespace:
I have tried to capture the essence of that view in the template. Whether I have done it very well is another matter, and would appreciate tweaks which get the point across better.
Most PAG here apply with different force, depending on whether one is dealing with the encyclopedia proper, or with project namespace and userspace. This also applies to WP:OWN. When it comes to the degree of ownership allowed, the guideline recognizes that essays in project namespace lie at a spot in between articles (the encyclopedia itself) and user pages (not the encyclopedia):
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia consisting of articles, and they may not be used for advocacy unrelated to Wikipedia. By contrast, pages in Wikipedia namespace (also known as "project namespace") may be used to advocate for specific viewpoints regarding the improvement or organization of Wikipedia itself. Project namespace includes essays, portals, project pages, etc., which are part of the behind-the-scenes inner workings of the Wikipedia project, but are not part of the encyclopedia proper. -- BullRangifer ( talk) 16:05, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Articles are covered by NPOV and required to document all significant POV on a subject, but essays are not covered by NPOV and are normally written by the original author to serve a specific purpose, and their original intentions should be respected; therefore disputes over the "right" version of the essay are misplaced. Improvement is welcomed, but hijacking is discouraged. When your viewpoint differs significantly from that expressed in the essay, it is usually better to start a new essay of your own, rather than re-writing the essay to say the opposite of what it has always said. You are welcome to create your own to provide a rebuttal or alternative view. Let each essay present its own case. |
SilkTork, is that better? -- BullRangifer ( talk) 05:11, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Wikipedia:Don't bold your !votes has been listed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Don't bold your !votes. -- Softlavender ( talk) 10:19, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
This personal essay is in userspace, so any edits not covered by REFACTOR and MINOR should only be made after agreement with the author. The author of a personal essay located in his or her user space has the right to revert any changes made to it by any other user. If you are not satisfied with this essay, then create your own. |
Please ping me. -- {{u|
BullRangifer}} {
Talk}
06:56, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
This essay in project namespace was started by a fellow wikipedian for a purpose, and their original intentions should be respected. The essay should not be hijacked by seeking to totally change the viewpoints without consulting the original author. Instead, seek to preserve and build upon their efforts. If you are really dissatisfied with the viewpoints of this essay, then consider creating your own to provide a rebuttal or alternative view. |
Please ping me. -- {{u|
BullRangifer}} {
Talk}
05:06, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
This obviously has to do with ownership, and I understand the concern with ownership behavior and have studied it before making this template. It's a fine line to walk! The guideline for essays has the following to say about essays in namespace:
I have tried to capture the essence of that view in the template. Whether I have done it very well is another matter, and would appreciate tweaks which get the point across better.
Most PAG here apply with different force, depending on whether one is dealing with the encyclopedia proper, or with project namespace and userspace. This also applies to WP:OWN. When it comes to the degree of ownership allowed, the guideline recognizes that essays in project namespace lie at a spot in between articles (the encyclopedia itself) and user pages (not the encyclopedia):
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia consisting of articles, and they may not be used for advocacy unrelated to Wikipedia. By contrast, pages in Wikipedia namespace (also known as "project namespace") may be used to advocate for specific viewpoints regarding the improvement or organization of Wikipedia itself. Project namespace includes essays, portals, project pages, etc., which are part of the behind-the-scenes inner workings of the Wikipedia project, but are not part of the encyclopedia proper. -- BullRangifer ( talk) 16:05, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Articles are covered by NPOV and required to document all significant POV on a subject, but essays are not covered by NPOV and are normally written by the original author to serve a specific purpose, and their original intentions should be respected; therefore disputes over the "right" version of the essay are misplaced. Improvement is welcomed, but hijacking is discouraged. When your viewpoint differs significantly from that expressed in the essay, it is usually better to start a new essay of your own, rather than re-writing the essay to say the opposite of what it has always said. You are welcome to create your own to provide a rebuttal or alternative view. Let each essay present its own case. |
SilkTork, is that better? -- BullRangifer ( talk) 05:11, 10 November 2015 (UTC)