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User:Kayau would like to add the Biography barnstar to the topical barnstars. Submitting here for discussion. Is it needed? Is the design appropriate or desireable?
Un
sch
ool 13:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
The Biography Barnstar
The Biography Barnstar is awarded to editors with a considerable contribution to bipgraphic articles.
Comments
By the way, what is the normal size for barnstars? Kayau ( talk) 15:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Kayau ( talk) 00:21, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
keep the silhouette at the same time, but I'll try. Kayau ( talk) 00:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I am very, very sorry, but I've been trying to revert and stuff. Whenever I revert it, they seem to switch. Just see the history at the commons. I've been very, very flabbergasted with this. Can anyone help me revert it back to the one with Socrates, Shakespeare and Einstein? Kayau ( talk) 11:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Kayau ( talk) 11:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I would like to add the Biography barnstar to the topical barnstars. Kayau ( talk) 13:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone ever seen this?
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The Biography Barnstar | |
for researching and bringing the article on Nutiketaiel up to FA status, I award Kayau this Biography Barnstar. Un sch ool 22:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC) |
Hmm... But mine focuses on the deceased. Perhaps I forgot to tell you that. Kayau ( talk) 00:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
We shouldn't be overdoing it. There's already one for the topic and we don't have to divide it further into unnecessary categories. What I'm trying to say is, for instance; there's already the biology barnstar. If we go and create new ones like mammals barnstar, fish barnstar etc. we are going to overload the place with barnstars and eventually no one will know which one to award for which reason. Template:The Biography Barnstar is there as an award for work in all biographic articles. Template:The BLP Barnstar is there for work in WP:BLP area, since that is a specialized area of biographies that need special attention. I don't think there's a need for a new barnstar for work on deceased people's biographies. I think The Biography Barnstar is enough and will serve the purpose, and if we really need a change we can change the image to one of the proposed ones. Chamal talk 13:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and added the barnstar from the Wikiproject page to WP:BARNSTAR. It seems to be sufficiently general to justify its inclusion there. Un sch ool 05:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I propose moving the following barnstars to WP:PUA, as they are address too narrow a scope to be on WP:BS — Eustress talk 14:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I strongly disagree. Both of these barnstars commend actions that help wikipedia as a whole and the improvement of articles in general, and the actions they describe can be applied to any article. They do not belong under personal user awards. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 14:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
What about a toy barnstar, for editors who have contributed greatly to toy related articles? I've made a little test of what it would look like (I used a picture, becuase I'm not that good with making my own) if anyone wants to see it. Abce2| Access Denied 14:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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The Toy Barnstar | |
For editors who have contiubuted greatly to Toy related articles |
That's not bad looking. It would probably go best as a personal user award, though, given its limited scope. If you didn't make it, did you check with the wikipedian that did to see if he is cool with using it as such? It isn't technically necessary, since the image is public domain, but it would be polite. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 15:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I've asked. So now what can I do with it while waiting for a reply? Abce2| Access Denied 15:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm working on a better picture, but how do you import a picture? Abce2| Access Denied 15:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I just tried that, and I'd rather have put in personal user awards for a while while I work on touching up the image than deal with Commons for the first time. Abce2| Access Denied 16:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
How do you put it in? Abce2| Access Denied 16:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Now I'm starting on a new one. Abce2| Access Denied 16:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Toy Barnstar | |
For editors who have contiubuted greatly to Toy related articles |
I really like this one. It's purpose is completely clear from the image, and the image itself is rather nice. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 18:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Better sources now. :) Abce2| Access Denied 18:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Nice. I like it. -- JBC3 ( talk) 18:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Now the sources have 10% less confusion. Abce2| Access Denied 18:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
It's finished and up there! Abce2| Access Denied 18:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I've looked up and down the list of Barnstars and I've noiticed that there's no Biology star. If there is one, I feel stupid. Anyway...I've got some time to kill(literaly waiting for paint to dry) so should I start on one? Please let me know either here or on my talk page. Abce2| Access Denied 21:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
As soon as you give the signal I'm ready too start. Abce2| Access Denied 22:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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The Biology Barnstar | |
For editors who have contiubuted greatly to Biology related articles |
It's just a prototype. Abce2| Access Denied 23:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Anyone? Abce2| Access Denied 23:30, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I've got to agree, mine looks horrible compared to that one. But I would think that it would be on the Barnstars list. Abce2| Access Denied 04:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
This Barnstar is very nice looking. Is there anything else we could use it for? Maybe Wikiproject Leipdoptera would like to use it as their project barnstar. It seems a shame to waste a nice looking barnstar. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 12:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Done Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents! 19:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Do you have a neutrality barnstar? I don't recall seeing one, but it soundsd strange if there isn't any. If there isn't, can someone make it? Kayau ( talk) 04:56, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I am totally confused. What would a neutrality barnstar be issued for? Adherence to NPOV? If (and I really don't know) you mean for adherence to NPOV, then I don't see it, that's a minimum expectation for editors, not something you reward. So what is this for? Un sch ool 22:23, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
This image was submitted for a law barnstar
back in January by
Regicollis. A ribbon version of it has been sitting at
WP:PUA ever since then, but as far as I can tell it has never been awarded. I have always thought this barnstar looks great, and I think it would fit perfectly for the proposed NPOV Barnstar. If Regicollis has no objections (I'll be leaving word on his talk page to see this conversation right after I finish posting this), I propose repurposing this barnstar to become the NPOV Award.
Nutiketaiel (
talk) 11:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I still don't get this. I mean, I understand (and appreciate) Kingpin's explanation, so yes, I understand under what circumstances this will be awarded. But it doesn't seem like a good idea to me. One' person's NPOV will be goring someone else's POV oxen, and awarding a barnstar for it seems like it would be twisting the sword (hey, maybe the sword is appropriate, after all!). Here's how I see it. A person who successfully refactors an article so that it is now recognized as NPOV by all or most parties will probably be settling a dispute. As such, the Barnstar of Peace would likely be appropriate, because the problem is not the POV, it is the arguments about what is POV and what is NPOV. I just don't see anything positive coming out of this barnstar (though my objection is not a deep one). Un sch ool 00:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
The World War Barnstar
The World War Barnstar is awarded to editors with a considerable contribution to world war-related articles.
Comments
Crazy, but I combined everyone's ideas!
Kayau (
Hee-Hee) 10:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
(out) I agree with Unschool that a photo is unsuitable for this. When you size it down to 100px, you need a microscope to identify the people in it. I don't think using flags would be a good idea either, since it wouldn't really show any connection with WW2 and there'd be too many anyway. I think for this particular barnstar, we've got to stick to one thing (weapons, people etc) or it'll get too cluttered up. Since this falls within the scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history, we can ask them for ideas. They've got a lot of awards already BTW :) Chamal talk 12:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I would like to tell everyone the following things:
Thank you for your kind attention. All the best, Kayau ( Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 02:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Nobody seems totally against the flag one, and there seems to be significant support, so I'm going to add this on for now - Kingpin 13 ( talk) 11:41, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I would like to propose the Children's Literature Barnstar for the Awards by WikiProject.
Kayau (
talk) 07:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I'm proposing a change to the Buddha Barnstar. I don't like the colour of the current one very much, since green is not a colour associated with Buddhism AFAIK. Anyway I made a new image, with a Dharmacakra and Buddha statue so that it clearly symbolises what it's about. What do you guys think? Is a change in order or is it unnecessary? Does the image need any adjustments? Also I suggest the name be changed to "Buddhism Barnstar" since not everything to do with Buddhism is not related to the Buddha, and also so that it's in line with the other religion barnstars. Chamal talk 16:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Sorry for the delay guys; I'm working on an article and these things are not my first priority. Anyway, I've got two images:
I removed the star as suggested and added a statue facing front since everyone seemed to think that best. I added the whole statue since I wasn't sure where to cut off from if using a bust, and I thought it would look a little weird anyway :) Are they ok? I'm not sure if they are clear enough, particularly the statues.
Chamal
talk 08:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Aaaaarrgghhhh!!! Consensus divided! :P Ok, how's this one:
I thought this was the best image of a statue so I got the bust from it. Star is there now though.
Chamal
talk 11:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I still think it's ready to go as it is. Chamal's most recent version is an excellent Barnstar. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 11:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
That we don't have our project barnstar on the Wikiproject barnstar area.:) Someone else can do it, because I am really busy today. Abce2| Access Denied 18:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I tried and screwed up bad. This is the last of my free time until a couple of hours. Abce2| Access Denied 00:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I do know, but your not looking in the right place. I was talking about the "Wikiproject awards." Abce2| Access Denied 02:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I did, but I meesed up. Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents 01:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I would like to say that this barnstar needs some changes. It's too dark, and it isn't photographed properly. Plus, there were no descriptions on the page. Do you think it should be improved?
Kayau (
talk) 09:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Can I try a newer one? Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents 00:59, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Here's idea Numero uno( Number one ). Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents 01:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Paper Barnstar | |
For editors who have contiubuted greatly to ??? related articles |
Um... What's that funny stick on the bottom for? Kayau ( talk) 05:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
NutiketaHal is correct: ALL THESE PAGES ARE YOURS EXCEPT EuroPUA. ATTEMPT NO DELETIONS THERE. Un sch ool 05:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I will try. Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents 01:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
This is my first attempt. Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents 01:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Economics Barnstar | |
For editors who have contiubuted greatly to Economic related articles |
Comments
![]() |
The Business and Economics Barnstar | |
For exposing wasteful use of human resources regarding the production of barnstars, I award myself this Business and Economics Barnstar. Un sch ool 03:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC) |
Flabbergasting! Where on earth did you find THAT? I don't think I've seen it on the WikiProject Award page or the Barnstar page. Kayau ( talk) 05:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
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Archive 5 | ← | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | → | Archive 15 |
User:Kayau would like to add the Biography barnstar to the topical barnstars. Submitting here for discussion. Is it needed? Is the design appropriate or desireable?
Un
sch
ool 13:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
The Biography Barnstar
The Biography Barnstar is awarded to editors with a considerable contribution to bipgraphic articles.
Comments
By the way, what is the normal size for barnstars? Kayau ( talk) 15:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Kayau ( talk) 00:21, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
keep the silhouette at the same time, but I'll try. Kayau ( talk) 00:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I am very, very sorry, but I've been trying to revert and stuff. Whenever I revert it, they seem to switch. Just see the history at the commons. I've been very, very flabbergasted with this. Can anyone help me revert it back to the one with Socrates, Shakespeare and Einstein? Kayau ( talk) 11:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Kayau ( talk) 11:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I would like to add the Biography barnstar to the topical barnstars. Kayau ( talk) 13:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone ever seen this?
![]() |
The Biography Barnstar | |
for researching and bringing the article on Nutiketaiel up to FA status, I award Kayau this Biography Barnstar. Un sch ool 22:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC) |
Hmm... But mine focuses on the deceased. Perhaps I forgot to tell you that. Kayau ( talk) 00:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
We shouldn't be overdoing it. There's already one for the topic and we don't have to divide it further into unnecessary categories. What I'm trying to say is, for instance; there's already the biology barnstar. If we go and create new ones like mammals barnstar, fish barnstar etc. we are going to overload the place with barnstars and eventually no one will know which one to award for which reason. Template:The Biography Barnstar is there as an award for work in all biographic articles. Template:The BLP Barnstar is there for work in WP:BLP area, since that is a specialized area of biographies that need special attention. I don't think there's a need for a new barnstar for work on deceased people's biographies. I think The Biography Barnstar is enough and will serve the purpose, and if we really need a change we can change the image to one of the proposed ones. Chamal talk 13:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and added the barnstar from the Wikiproject page to WP:BARNSTAR. It seems to be sufficiently general to justify its inclusion there. Un sch ool 05:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I propose moving the following barnstars to WP:PUA, as they are address too narrow a scope to be on WP:BS — Eustress talk 14:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I strongly disagree. Both of these barnstars commend actions that help wikipedia as a whole and the improvement of articles in general, and the actions they describe can be applied to any article. They do not belong under personal user awards. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 14:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
What about a toy barnstar, for editors who have contributed greatly to toy related articles? I've made a little test of what it would look like (I used a picture, becuase I'm not that good with making my own) if anyone wants to see it. Abce2| Access Denied 14:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Toy Barnstar | |
For editors who have contiubuted greatly to Toy related articles |
That's not bad looking. It would probably go best as a personal user award, though, given its limited scope. If you didn't make it, did you check with the wikipedian that did to see if he is cool with using it as such? It isn't technically necessary, since the image is public domain, but it would be polite. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 15:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I've asked. So now what can I do with it while waiting for a reply? Abce2| Access Denied 15:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm working on a better picture, but how do you import a picture? Abce2| Access Denied 15:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I just tried that, and I'd rather have put in personal user awards for a while while I work on touching up the image than deal with Commons for the first time. Abce2| Access Denied 16:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
How do you put it in? Abce2| Access Denied 16:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Now I'm starting on a new one. Abce2| Access Denied 16:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Toy Barnstar | |
For editors who have contiubuted greatly to Toy related articles |
I really like this one. It's purpose is completely clear from the image, and the image itself is rather nice. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 18:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Better sources now. :) Abce2| Access Denied 18:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Nice. I like it. -- JBC3 ( talk) 18:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Now the sources have 10% less confusion. Abce2| Access Denied 18:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
It's finished and up there! Abce2| Access Denied 18:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I've looked up and down the list of Barnstars and I've noiticed that there's no Biology star. If there is one, I feel stupid. Anyway...I've got some time to kill(literaly waiting for paint to dry) so should I start on one? Please let me know either here or on my talk page. Abce2| Access Denied 21:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
As soon as you give the signal I'm ready too start. Abce2| Access Denied 22:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Biology Barnstar | |
For editors who have contiubuted greatly to Biology related articles |
It's just a prototype. Abce2| Access Denied 23:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Anyone? Abce2| Access Denied 23:30, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I've got to agree, mine looks horrible compared to that one. But I would think that it would be on the Barnstars list. Abce2| Access Denied 04:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
This Barnstar is very nice looking. Is there anything else we could use it for? Maybe Wikiproject Leipdoptera would like to use it as their project barnstar. It seems a shame to waste a nice looking barnstar. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 12:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Done Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents! 19:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Do you have a neutrality barnstar? I don't recall seeing one, but it soundsd strange if there isn't any. If there isn't, can someone make it? Kayau ( talk) 04:56, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I am totally confused. What would a neutrality barnstar be issued for? Adherence to NPOV? If (and I really don't know) you mean for adherence to NPOV, then I don't see it, that's a minimum expectation for editors, not something you reward. So what is this for? Un sch ool 22:23, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
This image was submitted for a law barnstar
back in January by
Regicollis. A ribbon version of it has been sitting at
WP:PUA ever since then, but as far as I can tell it has never been awarded. I have always thought this barnstar looks great, and I think it would fit perfectly for the proposed NPOV Barnstar. If Regicollis has no objections (I'll be leaving word on his talk page to see this conversation right after I finish posting this), I propose repurposing this barnstar to become the NPOV Award.
Nutiketaiel (
talk) 11:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I still don't get this. I mean, I understand (and appreciate) Kingpin's explanation, so yes, I understand under what circumstances this will be awarded. But it doesn't seem like a good idea to me. One' person's NPOV will be goring someone else's POV oxen, and awarding a barnstar for it seems like it would be twisting the sword (hey, maybe the sword is appropriate, after all!). Here's how I see it. A person who successfully refactors an article so that it is now recognized as NPOV by all or most parties will probably be settling a dispute. As such, the Barnstar of Peace would likely be appropriate, because the problem is not the POV, it is the arguments about what is POV and what is NPOV. I just don't see anything positive coming out of this barnstar (though my objection is not a deep one). Un sch ool 00:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
The World War Barnstar
The World War Barnstar is awarded to editors with a considerable contribution to world war-related articles.
Comments
Crazy, but I combined everyone's ideas!
Kayau (
Hee-Hee) 10:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
(out) I agree with Unschool that a photo is unsuitable for this. When you size it down to 100px, you need a microscope to identify the people in it. I don't think using flags would be a good idea either, since it wouldn't really show any connection with WW2 and there'd be too many anyway. I think for this particular barnstar, we've got to stick to one thing (weapons, people etc) or it'll get too cluttered up. Since this falls within the scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history, we can ask them for ideas. They've got a lot of awards already BTW :) Chamal talk 12:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
I would like to tell everyone the following things:
Thank you for your kind attention. All the best, Kayau ( Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 02:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Nobody seems totally against the flag one, and there seems to be significant support, so I'm going to add this on for now - Kingpin 13 ( talk) 11:41, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
I would like to propose the Children's Literature Barnstar for the Awards by WikiProject.
Kayau (
talk) 07:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I'm proposing a change to the Buddha Barnstar. I don't like the colour of the current one very much, since green is not a colour associated with Buddhism AFAIK. Anyway I made a new image, with a Dharmacakra and Buddha statue so that it clearly symbolises what it's about. What do you guys think? Is a change in order or is it unnecessary? Does the image need any adjustments? Also I suggest the name be changed to "Buddhism Barnstar" since not everything to do with Buddhism is not related to the Buddha, and also so that it's in line with the other religion barnstars. Chamal talk 16:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Sorry for the delay guys; I'm working on an article and these things are not my first priority. Anyway, I've got two images:
I removed the star as suggested and added a statue facing front since everyone seemed to think that best. I added the whole statue since I wasn't sure where to cut off from if using a bust, and I thought it would look a little weird anyway :) Are they ok? I'm not sure if they are clear enough, particularly the statues.
Chamal
talk 08:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Aaaaarrgghhhh!!! Consensus divided! :P Ok, how's this one:
I thought this was the best image of a statue so I got the bust from it. Star is there now though.
Chamal
talk 11:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
I still think it's ready to go as it is. Chamal's most recent version is an excellent Barnstar. Nutiketaiel ( talk) 11:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
That we don't have our project barnstar on the Wikiproject barnstar area.:) Someone else can do it, because I am really busy today. Abce2| Access Denied 18:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I tried and screwed up bad. This is the last of my free time until a couple of hours. Abce2| Access Denied 00:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I do know, but your not looking in the right place. I was talking about the "Wikiproject awards." Abce2| Access Denied 02:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I did, but I meesed up. Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents 01:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
I would like to say that this barnstar needs some changes. It's too dark, and it isn't photographed properly. Plus, there were no descriptions on the page. Do you think it should be improved?
Kayau (
talk) 09:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Can I try a newer one? Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents 00:59, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Here's idea Numero uno( Number one ). Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents 01:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Paper Barnstar | |
For editors who have contiubuted greatly to ??? related articles |
Um... What's that funny stick on the bottom for? Kayau ( talk) 05:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
NutiketaHal is correct: ALL THESE PAGES ARE YOURS EXCEPT EuroPUA. ATTEMPT NO DELETIONS THERE. Un sch ool 05:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I will try. Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents 01:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
This is my first attempt. Abce2| Free Lemonade Only 25 cents 01:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Economics Barnstar | |
For editors who have contiubuted greatly to Economic related articles |
Comments
![]() |
The Business and Economics Barnstar | |
For exposing wasteful use of human resources regarding the production of barnstars, I award myself this Business and Economics Barnstar. Un sch ool 03:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC) |
Flabbergasting! Where on earth did you find THAT? I don't think I've seen it on the WikiProject Award page or the Barnstar page. Kayau ( talk) 05:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)