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There appears to be a number of duplications of barnstar awards at Category:Barnstars of National Merit templates. Could someone please review and merge identical awards. Regards Newm30 ( talk) 00:06, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
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parameter, like the other barnstars use). Thanks for pointing this out though,
benzband (
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11:12, 19 April 2012 (UTC)archive top|result = I'm closing this per Wikipedia:Waste of Time and Wikipedia:Just drop it. benzband ( talk) 09:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)}}
Possibly this section isn't precisely identical to the one above that was closed in the same way. Just let it die of old age with a long beard and false teeth, please ? Penyulap ☏ 13:24, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, two things, there is this uncle sam the barnstar man, and I'd like to know does anyone object to him going in, like "You should give someone a barnstar today" or "you need a barnstar" or whatever you guys come up with, whatever. I just worry if there are objections on WP:Bias that people feel aren't overridden by humor, or if anyone considers it offensive.
[[:File:Penyulap all-stars.gif|thumb|left|120px|link=
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Penyulap/Barnstars%7C
A curated visual gallery of Wikipedia Barnstars
proposal 2]]
There is also a visual gallery, like a short-cut short-circuit to finding a not crap barnstar in a hurry, it is on commons, but can be curated as it's in userspace, please go ahead and add or subtract from it everyone, it's multi-lingual, so everyone can enjoy / use it. It's
here so the little pic might be useful towards the top of the page so that people who want to do a visual search can do so in a hurry.
Penyulap
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07:13, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
100px|left|thumb|I'm lost for words on this proposalCertainly it is unspeakably American, but the humor of it is priceless I think. The policy I quote the most of all is anglo-american focus, it's part of the NPOV FAQ. But this uncle sam has a barnstar on his hat already, when I noticed that, I was sold, and knew he'd turn up in the project over and over again because of it. (both the in-your-face attitude and the barnstar hat, I mean Americans who see this will never look at uncle same in real life, they'll be in the bus or on the street and will see him and be thinking 'that is a barnstar on his hat') This is probably not the image to hate as it will inevitably turn up everywhere, but I agree this may well not be the place. I found John Bull pointing, but I haven't found Johnny Canuck pointing, does he? Penyulap ☏
inserted proposal 3 (something along these lines, appropriately cropped to fit the page in a pleasing manner)
(new) proposal 3, something along these lines might not be as visually offensive, but still lets visual-oriented editors know what is going on, where to find what they are looking for in a hurry without the problems associated with cat searching comms. Penyulap ☏
I'm looking at a "could be useful"(ϢereSpielChequers) as well as "Personally I probably wouldn't use it, but that doesn't matter", and a "not sure"(extra999) sort of response here, which is cool. If there are no major objections (and please say if there are) I'd like to trial it on the page, to see if it is simply uncontroversial, or if someone notices it there and feels like it's a bad idea, then I'll know it's a total flop. Also, if it's not a bother, I'd love to get some feedback if I do put it in (provided there are no objections) because I don't want it sticking out, or disrupting the look of the page, or getting in the way. I'd much rather get a few comments like "it sucks in that position", "too big", "too small" sort of thing so I can fix it up. Mabdul, you're best at spotting the stuff that is too flashy, are the little stars
in the pic ok ? I suspect they are kindof subdued. I'll try to think of a way to work in a cropped portion of the not very animated prop 3 kind of pic, I'll try in like a few days, so long as nobody thinks that's a really bad idea.
Penyulap
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21:34, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for being on board with that, but thank you for pointing it out in the first place, that first anim I did was horrible. The collaboration makes it SO much better.
Sorry about the pic which has been done in such haste. It's a bit of a 'paper napkin at the cafe' diagram. And no the irony of explaining visually is not lost on me :) but I counter the argument with "I'm not talking to idiots" and you guys get what I'm saying I am sure, not that you agree, but you do understand.
Well the page is set up for 'readers', people who choose according to 'what the barnstar is intended for' which is written beside the barnstar in a box. This is all cool. Especially for readers, then they know which one is appropriate. There are other kinds of editors as well, visually based searchers who choose according to the visual elements and visual message of the barnstar, and maybe make barnstars, or adapt barnstars.
So those artists are right now not really able to search commons for all the good stuff. In a way we can search this page for the 'good stuff' that text-based and visually-based readers have agreed on, or there is the frustration of searching Category:barnstars on commons, or other methods, but how do you search for the good stuff, there is no category for crap or not crap, and it's just as well, as it's a person to person subjective thing. It's like I made a barnstar so I figure, yeah it's great, and for me it is. (not talking about me here, I don't even put my own barnstars that I've made into my own gallery. 'I' is just general).
But how does an English speaker search for the 'good stuff' on french wikipedia ? Their gallery would be the same as this one, judged by text descriptions as well as visually. So you miss out on good french works you can adapt for use here, because you can't search for it visually.
So the Visual gallery transcends language and just goes for visual appeal, allowing us to exchange with the German, French, Spanish-speaking, Russian, and so on editors. There is no category on commons for this, but I see there is a use for it for me, and I think it's possible other editors might find it useful as well. There is a lot of good stuff out there that is not on this page :) let's not miss out. If there were 5 fantastic looking barnstars that never made it onto the french page because they were all for a french award category that already had a barnstar, how could we possibly find them ? I have no idea, and I am a pretty good searcher for images, so if I can't do it, I feel other people may struggle at the task. That would be a shame.
The gallery is no good on here as a subpage of barnstars, as other language editors cannot use it or add their best work to it. So you get the same fragmentation. We would create language barriers in an area where language is truely irrelevant. Has to be on commons, and I figure link from each language with docs on the local page, so I figure the caption for the link would have a link to a documentation sub page here. I don't know if we can transclude out of commons just yet, so I guess the way I am proposing is rough for sure, but it's a good temporary measure. Penyulap ☏
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That one has had quite positive reception, I think it would make it. (getting off topic, but some others which suck, and a few that might not are
here I'd like to know what you think of them on my tp) if you care to comment (it's off topic here)
Penyulap
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this ip address is giving out barnstars, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.87.4.17 does that make sense? people can then give themselves barnstars. what is the point then? thanks, James Michael DuPont ( talk) 08:58, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Lots of people are doing amazing work on MonmouthpediA, many people are writing a substantial amount of articles, would really like to have a barnstar associated with the project. Mrjohncummings ( talk) 21:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
This barnstar is proposed now and may be commissioned in the 2020s. I don't know to design, so I need a editor. Can we make an OPSEK barnstar?These may be awarded to those editor who have made appreciable contributions to the OPSEK article in wikipedia. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 06:26, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I'll be 27. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 10:29, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I had a chat with palz. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:47, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
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Teahouse Barnstar |
So here's the template |
Any objections or should i add the {{
Teahouse Barnstar}}
to
Awards by WikiProject
Barnstars 2.0 by WikiProject? (for now, until the pages are merged - see
#Barnstars 2.0 and
#new proposals)
benzband (
talk)
14:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
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The WikiProject Occupy Wall Street Barnstar | |
So here's the template. |
This barnstar is officially recognized by WikiProject OWS on their project page. If that's no problem i'll list it at WP:Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject. benzband ( talk) 09:33, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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The Punk music Barnstar | |
{{{1}}} |
WikiProject Punk music has a barnstar but no template. Shall i list it? (i can create the template if that's required) benzband ( talk) 09:01, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
{{
Punk music Barnstar}}
.
benzband (
talk)
09:03, 6 May 2012 (UTC)It is really sad to see that the guidelines for barnstar 2.0 designs enforce a dull, boring, and unoriginal design where the only difference is an icon in the middle of the standard barnstar. What happened to creativity? Does no one appreciate the originality of the 1.0 rescue barnstar? Or appreciate the creativity of the 1.0 guidance barnstar, the curator barnstar, the rosetta stone barnstar, or the highly original chemistry barnstar? Add to this that the new designs look like polished plastic, while the 1.0 version actually do look like rusty iron. Now before you are going to tell me that I can freely choose which version to take, the problem is that you are effectively forcing every designer to follow the 2.0 guidelines! Nageh ( talk) 17:38, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
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version of each.
Achowat (
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12:08, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey guys, just putting in my two cents. :) Take all this with a pinch of salt since I've been away from Wikipedia for a while so I might just have a slightly different view being from possibly a different era. :)
- Well-rested Talk 12:32, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Propose renaming the 2.0 guidelines to PNG tutorial or png tutorial (for barnstars) if you must. Penyulap ☏ 12:41, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
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I think everyone doesn't like the guidelines so far, so I propose we do nothing about it, in this request for apathy, please indicate you can't be bothered to comment or do anything at all by not doing anything or commenting at all. All those in favor, say nothing. Penyulap ☏ 00:07, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
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Please remove the text "There is a guideline at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Guidelines how to create a Barnstar 2.0." from the edit notice, the removal of this text is not controversial, whilst a complete solution for the notice hasn't been finished, people either suggest it's removal #!Vote Discussion or mention how much the Guidelines suck (this section). Penyulap ☏ 00:16, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
!RFC
To repeat my former cheekiness, I propose adding the text "Consider adding new barnstars to the Personal User Awards page." with the " Personal User Awards " linked to that page, and please choose the most mind-numbingly boring text colour possible, as people get very excited about things that are very boring, ... yes, they do, around here anyway. Penyulap ☏ 22:27, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a Barnstar for DYKs??? -- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 10:35, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
What is DYK anyway? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 10:37, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
There is another curator's barnstar image at File:Curator's barnstar.jpg. Smallman12q ( talk) 11:08, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
I don't really know how to design a barnstar, but I want to know if there is any support for an Awesome Username Barnstar? If so, maybe someone else can design the icon. AutomaticStrikeout ( talk) 22:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Right there is where I can see an improvement. WP:Star needs improvement just the same as an article can use some improvement. WP:Star is not telling people clearly what a barnstar is for. It's not going down the line of, what for an article would be called WP:Lede, it's not saying to new editors this for example is a circumstance in which you give a barnstar and this is a circumstance where you give a PUA, and by the way this is what a PUA is and so forth. Basically the WP:Star page is a big pile of crap ! People get confused and for some reason editors here prefer to explain these things on talkpages instead of the actual wikipage, WHY is known only to a hunchback living in a bell-tower in Ciudad del Este in Paraguay near the border with Argentina and Parana, Brazil, but he will only tell you why on tuesdays through thursdays if he is not hungry.
I would like to propose some improvements to the WP:Star page, so that absolutely fair questions like the difference between a Barnstar and a PUA and a cookie (Yuk to cookies btw, The Donut of DOOM is my preference right now) can be explained to just anyone who wants to know. Of course there are people who will lecture "Ohhh Oh we can't go explaining that to people, wikipedia is not this and not that and blah blah de GAk*%$ GAAAaK CKHhH" (I'm strangling them right here, because the WP:Star page should explain what a WP:Star IS, Durr)
But OMG to just get some tiny little thing done around here, OOOhhhh the Drama, you should have seen trying to get an edit notice fixed up, (and it's still not done you know, it's barely passable). Someone said that every thread has to be a Jim Carrey movie, it's either that or an argument and I'm not into conflict, just ask anyone, tell me if they disagree and I'll go pummel them.
We need to know what kind of awards there are, and what is for when and why, and we need to know it Now ! I tell you NOW NOW NOW ! (stamps foot)
P.s. if everything around here is so perfect why did I just make a redirect for WP:Star ? huh huh ? Blah ! this place isn't the second death star half built orbiting the Ewoks moon, it's just some NASA proposal that will never get off the ground. All TALK, no ACTION ! Penyulap ☏ 11:46, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Following a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Teahouse, the following barnstar was created ({{ The New Editor's Barnstar}}):
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The New Editor's Barnstar | |
This award may be presented to very new Wikipedians who have contributed positively to Wikipedia (especially for users who have made under one hundred edits). May their future hold many more barnstars! Mlm42 ( talk) 22:53, 1 April 2012 (UTC) |
Could it be added to the list? I wasn't able to find a barnstar that was specifically for new users.. I've already given it out to over 10 new users who have made great contributions. Thanks, Mlm42 ( talk) 22:53, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Crying-I've have made less than 100 contributions in my first week, and I've not got it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mir Almaat 1 S1 ( talk • contribs) 07:27, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I hereby propose the Commonwealth Barnstar of Merit or Commonwealth Barnstar of International Merit for users who have fine contributions to articles related to the Commonwealth of Nations like Commonwealth Games.. Commonwealth Youth Games..etc..
I am proposing the creation of a Barnstar of National Merit for Scotland, to parallel the one for England at 2.0.
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The Scotland Barnstar of National Merit | |
Your reason here |
-- SabreBD ( talk) 19:15, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
I actually did update both parts, but for some reason it doesn't show in the sample barnstar. This seems to be the best I can manage with my skills and tools.-- SabreBD ( talk) 16:21, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Why not have a Rookie Barnstar? It's a barnstar where you give to Rookie Wikipedians (Those who have registered under a year or less) who has done the most improvement or most helpful contributions.
Note: I cannot design it on my own, I would ask some veteran users to design it instead. GTAjaxoxo (Discuss) 06:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Maybe we can make it Most Improved Within One Year Star. GTAjaxoxo (Discuss) 06:57, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
We have a new proposal for a new editor barnstar above. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 10:42, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm not trying to earn this barnstar, I've been in Wikipedia for over 2 years GTAjaxoxo (Discuss) 03:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
I have proposed this thing.
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The South Ossetian Barnstar of National Merit |
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 10:39, 19 May 2012 (UTC) |
Discuss it yourself. South Ossetia is a 22 State recognized non-UN Nation claimed by Georgia. I will only be back in 2013 or 2014. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 10:39, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
I've not made the template! I don't know how! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 04:07, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
{{
The South Ossetia Barnstar of National Merit}}
and added to
Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Barnstar of National Merit.
benzband (
talk)
17:14, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
![]() | Adding a Barnstar to this list
If you don't feel any of these barnstar awards covers the topics you are concerned with, you can always design your own (using these examples, if you like). If you have any questions concerning barnstars, or would like a barnstar to be added to this list, please see WikiProject Wikipedia Awards - a group of volunteers who help guide these pages. Barnstars are listed in chronological order, that is, in the order in which they were introduced to the English Wikipedia. Any new barnstars should be added to the bottom of the appropriate section. Note: Barnstars added without consensus may be removed. |
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I'd like to propose the addition of an edit notice to the Barnstar page. There seem to be quite a few editors who have added Barnstars to the Barnstar page, without pre-approval, it would help as the written text on the page is not sufficient to slow down many editors, it causes embarrassment and useless busywork cleaning up. This defines the purpose of an edit notice. Penyulap ☏ 10:28, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
discussion.
Reopened should this be extended to all the barnstar pages (as listed in
{{
Barnstarpages}}
)?
benzband (
talk)
11:02, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
that would suck just as much. People already know they are on the barnstar page.
![]() | Adding a Barnstar If you would like a barnstar to be added to the list, please discuss it at WikiProject Wikipedia Awards talk page. Please don't add it without a consensus! Barnstars without consensus will be removed. There is a guideline at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Guidelines how to create a Barnstar 2.0. |
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propose a picture like this, which is related to the message. Penyulap ☏
" There is a guideline at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Guidelines how to create a Barnstar 2.0." is not part of the message, I took that out too. Penyulap ☏
![]() | Hold on a moment! If you are here to add a barnstar to the list, please first make sure you have discussed it at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards. |
Non- essential, guaranteed to catch no fish at all.
![]() | You are on the Barnstar page If you would like help adding a barnstar to the list, please discuss it at WikiProject Wikipedia Awards talk page. There is a guideline at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Guidelines how to create a Barnstar 2.0. |
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If the graphic is no good, you could use a flat hand, palm visible, fingers upright. Penyulap ☏
I really oppose to the idea that we "approve" barnstars; we discuss them and work on improving them and put them in the correct list. We're far more librarians than an editorial board. The visual, any visual even "just" barnstar, tells the reader "no no, please read this", so I'm fine with just the OBS image. Achowat ( talk) 13:14, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict)(inserted at correct point)
I object to the objection that barnstars are rejected only where there are objections. I may be visually based, but there is no way you lot cannot see a pattern emerging here, turn around and pull your pants down and smack your own bottoms the lot of you. You're all naughty if you think this isn't an approval process. Penyulap ☏
I concur; that's why we should try to fix the edit notice. Achowat ( talk) 18:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I disagree. This is why we need to make sure we are fixing the right problem first. If you are fixing the wrong problem, then obviously the problem doesn't get fixed. You've just got a bunch of fluff over the top of it. You'll still get reverts on that page, which for reasons beyond me, people think is a good idea. If experienced editors are adding ducks to the list of apples page, it's not because of BRD, it's because your (*&$%#$%%^ apple page looks like a bunch of ducks ! Penyulap ☏
{{
Barnstar pages}}
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)Let's keep existentialist essentialist questions about the project in a different section please.
benzband (
talk)
13:57, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
@benzband, no, you don't have to be a sysop; but you need (at least) the Account creator flag. And I agree with the editors above: PUA shouldn't have any edit notice (at the moment, CCC) and the other pages should not have the same message as WP:*. mabdul 13:17, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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![]() | Hold on a moment! If you are here to add a barnstar to the list, please first make sure you have discussed it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards. Please don't add it without a consensus! Barnstars without consensus will be removed. You may alternatively wish to add your new award to this page. |
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I like the try it and see how it goes principle, I always liked that. Cause how are we going to know if it works if we don't try it ? I should add the little hand thing though. Penyulap ☏ 20:22, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
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Here is something I suggest we go ahead and try. Penyulap ☏ 21:04, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
While it may look a little strange at first, consider that if this one is unnecessary whether or not a barnstar image is also unnecessary. Penyulap ☏ 15:40, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Does it seem like we have a few too many general Barnstars for arbitrary things? I believe so. There's the Original Barnstar, and the special Barnstar that have no specific contribution so, don't see why we are compelled to make more specific Barnstars. but when read the description, notice there are Barnstars that fit almost the same description as the other. Actually some of these are rather vague when u start reading them. I believe we should remove some of them. and choose which ones we should keep. And to give an example just so that this doesn't sound like wild accusations for the sake of limiting. Ones typed in Red are the ones that are the ones that share nearly the same description. The ones in Purple will be the ones that seem to be odd description that don't really have much specific use to actually be an award.
Well this is what I found. And yes, I understand there is specific wording that separates certain ones but they all share the same message. Lucia Black ( talk) 00:27, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
When i imagine spam i see intentional large number of unnecesary or unhelpful text on either the article page or talkpage. Defender of the wiki, anti vandalism, and anti spam focus on cleaning on "intentional" damage to articles/talkpage or intentionally changing what wikipedia isnt about. Which intentional damage is in a sense "vandalism". The defender barnstar has two options.
I'm subtly trying to show what Wp:award should really be about. And we have other barnstars that dont make sense. Like surreal barnstar, and barnstars that seem to be made just to be made such as invisible barnstar. Barnstars are slowly changing from symbol of exceptional contribution to "general edits". Lucia Black ( talk) 20:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
I largely agree with Lucia and Penyulap on this.. it seems to me the (unfortunate) consensus regarding listing barnstars is that "historical significance" takes precedence over "usefulness to editors". As an obvious example, notice that the barnstar page is listed in chronological order - which is entirely unhelpful! A separate Wikipedia:History of the barnstar could be created for nostalgia purposes.. To me, WP:BARNSTAR should serve two purposes (on top of explaining what a barnstar is): 1) Letting users quickly and efficiently find the award they came looking for, and 2) Giving editors ideas for barnstars that we think should be given out more. Because really, what else is this page for? (and don't say nostalgia..) Mlm42 ( talk) 01:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
For now, like I've mentioned before, these aren't concrete names but the idea of giving them a new name once merged. So if u don't like a current name proposed, suggest which one we should keep or suggest another name. that said, there's also the issue of these being used...so.... suggest not deleting the templates. but removing them from the list. It wont solve it completely for those who just like giving barnstars away who will find them, but it wont have much. Or maybe edit the template saying something like "no longer part of the barnstar list" to keep from being used. As heartless as it sounds, this may be more beneficial. the only ssue s think some are treating this wikiproject na WP:OWN-like way. even though t's not more than one editor. It does show less credibility. Lucia Black ( talk) 04:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
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The Islamic State of Afghanistan Barnstar for National merit |
I propose this. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 07:53, 22 May 2012 (UTC) |
I've already made the template. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 07:54, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
That is about Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, which is the present country. I proposed this award about the Islamic State of Afghanistan which existed from 1992-1996(as the real government of Afghanistan) and 1996-2001(as the country which controlled the provinces which were not controlled by the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is the Taliban Afghanistan. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 04:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
And do you agree? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 06:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
I think Islamic State of Afghanistan and Burhanuddin Rabbani(President), Northern Alliance , War in Afghanistan(1996-2001) and a few others. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 04:43, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
And many other articles too... Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:07, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
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Alright, I've come across a pretty big issue with the way we list the Barnstars. The problem is with the Barnstars and Barnstars 2.0; namely that (by having two different lists, they don't line up). I have no earthly idea how to rectify this situation. Maybe a seperate column on the page with the 2.0 graphic present, I'm not sure. The big problem is that there are Barnstars that exists as BS2.0s but not on the standard Barnstar list, and to make matters worse, many of the Barnstars on the standard list are in 2.0 form! Now I don't mean to deride the good work that's been done by the BS2.0 people; they're useful alternatives. But I just spent 45 minutes creating a "Mediation Barnstar", only to find that one existed, but only as a 2.0! Am I the only one who sees a problem with the current scheme? If so, what can be done to fix it? Achowat ( talk) 19:39, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Upgrade. --
Antonu (
talk)
09:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
OK, I'm nearly finish with merging; Here are some observations:
todo list
mabdul 18:29, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
I want to merge in a similar way now
Reorder the Barnstars either:
mabdul
08:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Merge the WikiProjects barnstars and the 'Topical Barnstars' since many of these template can (and are) listed in both tables.
mabdul
08:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Topical Barnstars
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There appears to be a number of duplications of barnstar awards at Category:Barnstars of National Merit templates. Could someone please review and merge identical awards. Regards Newm30 ( talk) 00:06, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
|alt=
parameter, like the other barnstars use). Thanks for pointing this out though,
benzband (
talk)
11:12, 19 April 2012 (UTC)archive top|result = I'm closing this per Wikipedia:Waste of Time and Wikipedia:Just drop it. benzband ( talk) 09:49, 15 April 2012 (UTC)}}
Possibly this section isn't precisely identical to the one above that was closed in the same way. Just let it die of old age with a long beard and false teeth, please ? Penyulap ☏ 13:24, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, two things, there is this uncle sam the barnstar man, and I'd like to know does anyone object to him going in, like "You should give someone a barnstar today" or "you need a barnstar" or whatever you guys come up with, whatever. I just worry if there are objections on WP:Bias that people feel aren't overridden by humor, or if anyone considers it offensive.
[[:File:Penyulap all-stars.gif|thumb|left|120px|link=
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Penyulap/Barnstars%7C
A curated visual gallery of Wikipedia Barnstars
proposal 2]]
There is also a visual gallery, like a short-cut short-circuit to finding a not crap barnstar in a hurry, it is on commons, but can be curated as it's in userspace, please go ahead and add or subtract from it everyone, it's multi-lingual, so everyone can enjoy / use it. It's
here so the little pic might be useful towards the top of the page so that people who want to do a visual search can do so in a hurry.
Penyulap
☏
07:13, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
100px|left|thumb|I'm lost for words on this proposalCertainly it is unspeakably American, but the humor of it is priceless I think. The policy I quote the most of all is anglo-american focus, it's part of the NPOV FAQ. But this uncle sam has a barnstar on his hat already, when I noticed that, I was sold, and knew he'd turn up in the project over and over again because of it. (both the in-your-face attitude and the barnstar hat, I mean Americans who see this will never look at uncle same in real life, they'll be in the bus or on the street and will see him and be thinking 'that is a barnstar on his hat') This is probably not the image to hate as it will inevitably turn up everywhere, but I agree this may well not be the place. I found John Bull pointing, but I haven't found Johnny Canuck pointing, does he? Penyulap ☏
inserted proposal 3 (something along these lines, appropriately cropped to fit the page in a pleasing manner)
(new) proposal 3, something along these lines might not be as visually offensive, but still lets visual-oriented editors know what is going on, where to find what they are looking for in a hurry without the problems associated with cat searching comms. Penyulap ☏
I'm looking at a "could be useful"(ϢereSpielChequers) as well as "Personally I probably wouldn't use it, but that doesn't matter", and a "not sure"(extra999) sort of response here, which is cool. If there are no major objections (and please say if there are) I'd like to trial it on the page, to see if it is simply uncontroversial, or if someone notices it there and feels like it's a bad idea, then I'll know it's a total flop. Also, if it's not a bother, I'd love to get some feedback if I do put it in (provided there are no objections) because I don't want it sticking out, or disrupting the look of the page, or getting in the way. I'd much rather get a few comments like "it sucks in that position", "too big", "too small" sort of thing so I can fix it up. Mabdul, you're best at spotting the stuff that is too flashy, are the little stars
in the pic ok ? I suspect they are kindof subdued. I'll try to think of a way to work in a cropped portion of the not very animated prop 3 kind of pic, I'll try in like a few days, so long as nobody thinks that's a really bad idea.
Penyulap
☏
21:34, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for being on board with that, but thank you for pointing it out in the first place, that first anim I did was horrible. The collaboration makes it SO much better.
Sorry about the pic which has been done in such haste. It's a bit of a 'paper napkin at the cafe' diagram. And no the irony of explaining visually is not lost on me :) but I counter the argument with "I'm not talking to idiots" and you guys get what I'm saying I am sure, not that you agree, but you do understand.
Well the page is set up for 'readers', people who choose according to 'what the barnstar is intended for' which is written beside the barnstar in a box. This is all cool. Especially for readers, then they know which one is appropriate. There are other kinds of editors as well, visually based searchers who choose according to the visual elements and visual message of the barnstar, and maybe make barnstars, or adapt barnstars.
So those artists are right now not really able to search commons for all the good stuff. In a way we can search this page for the 'good stuff' that text-based and visually-based readers have agreed on, or there is the frustration of searching Category:barnstars on commons, or other methods, but how do you search for the good stuff, there is no category for crap or not crap, and it's just as well, as it's a person to person subjective thing. It's like I made a barnstar so I figure, yeah it's great, and for me it is. (not talking about me here, I don't even put my own barnstars that I've made into my own gallery. 'I' is just general).
But how does an English speaker search for the 'good stuff' on french wikipedia ? Their gallery would be the same as this one, judged by text descriptions as well as visually. So you miss out on good french works you can adapt for use here, because you can't search for it visually.
So the Visual gallery transcends language and just goes for visual appeal, allowing us to exchange with the German, French, Spanish-speaking, Russian, and so on editors. There is no category on commons for this, but I see there is a use for it for me, and I think it's possible other editors might find it useful as well. There is a lot of good stuff out there that is not on this page :) let's not miss out. If there were 5 fantastic looking barnstars that never made it onto the french page because they were all for a french award category that already had a barnstar, how could we possibly find them ? I have no idea, and I am a pretty good searcher for images, so if I can't do it, I feel other people may struggle at the task. That would be a shame.
The gallery is no good on here as a subpage of barnstars, as other language editors cannot use it or add their best work to it. So you get the same fragmentation. We would create language barriers in an area where language is truely irrelevant. Has to be on commons, and I figure link from each language with docs on the local page, so I figure the caption for the link would have a link to a documentation sub page here. I don't know if we can transclude out of commons just yet, so I guess the way I am proposing is rough for sure, but it's a good temporary measure. Penyulap ☏
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That one has had quite positive reception, I think it would make it. (getting off topic, but some others which suck, and a few that might not are
here I'd like to know what you think of them on my tp) if you care to comment (it's off topic here)
Penyulap
☏
this ip address is giving out barnstars, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.87.4.17 does that make sense? people can then give themselves barnstars. what is the point then? thanks, James Michael DuPont ( talk) 08:58, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Lots of people are doing amazing work on MonmouthpediA, many people are writing a substantial amount of articles, would really like to have a barnstar associated with the project. Mrjohncummings ( talk) 21:13, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
This barnstar is proposed now and may be commissioned in the 2020s. I don't know to design, so I need a editor. Can we make an OPSEK barnstar?These may be awarded to those editor who have made appreciable contributions to the OPSEK article in wikipedia. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 06:26, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I'll be 27. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 10:29, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I had a chat with palz. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:47, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
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Teahouse Barnstar |
So here's the template |
Any objections or should i add the {{
Teahouse Barnstar}}
to
Awards by WikiProject
Barnstars 2.0 by WikiProject? (for now, until the pages are merged - see
#Barnstars 2.0 and
#new proposals)
benzband (
talk)
14:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
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The WikiProject Occupy Wall Street Barnstar | |
So here's the template. |
This barnstar is officially recognized by WikiProject OWS on their project page. If that's no problem i'll list it at WP:Barnstars 2.0/Awards by WikiProject. benzband ( talk) 09:33, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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The Punk music Barnstar | |
{{{1}}} |
WikiProject Punk music has a barnstar but no template. Shall i list it? (i can create the template if that's required) benzband ( talk) 09:01, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
{{
Punk music Barnstar}}
.
benzband (
talk)
09:03, 6 May 2012 (UTC)It is really sad to see that the guidelines for barnstar 2.0 designs enforce a dull, boring, and unoriginal design where the only difference is an icon in the middle of the standard barnstar. What happened to creativity? Does no one appreciate the originality of the 1.0 rescue barnstar? Or appreciate the creativity of the 1.0 guidance barnstar, the curator barnstar, the rosetta stone barnstar, or the highly original chemistry barnstar? Add to this that the new designs look like polished plastic, while the 1.0 version actually do look like rusty iron. Now before you are going to tell me that I can freely choose which version to take, the problem is that you are effectively forcing every designer to follow the 2.0 guidelines! Nageh ( talk) 17:38, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
|alt
version of each.
Achowat (
talk)
12:08, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey guys, just putting in my two cents. :) Take all this with a pinch of salt since I've been away from Wikipedia for a while so I might just have a slightly different view being from possibly a different era. :)
- Well-rested Talk 12:32, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Propose renaming the 2.0 guidelines to PNG tutorial or png tutorial (for barnstars) if you must. Penyulap ☏ 12:41, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
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I think everyone doesn't like the guidelines so far, so I propose we do nothing about it, in this request for apathy, please indicate you can't be bothered to comment or do anything at all by not doing anything or commenting at all. All those in favor, say nothing. Penyulap ☏ 00:07, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
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Please remove the text "There is a guideline at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Guidelines how to create a Barnstar 2.0." from the edit notice, the removal of this text is not controversial, whilst a complete solution for the notice hasn't been finished, people either suggest it's removal #!Vote Discussion or mention how much the Guidelines suck (this section). Penyulap ☏ 00:16, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
!RFC
To repeat my former cheekiness, I propose adding the text "Consider adding new barnstars to the Personal User Awards page." with the " Personal User Awards " linked to that page, and please choose the most mind-numbingly boring text colour possible, as people get very excited about things that are very boring, ... yes, they do, around here anyway. Penyulap ☏ 22:27, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a Barnstar for DYKs??? -- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 10:35, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
What is DYK anyway? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 10:37, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
There is another curator's barnstar image at File:Curator's barnstar.jpg. Smallman12q ( talk) 11:08, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
I don't really know how to design a barnstar, but I want to know if there is any support for an Awesome Username Barnstar? If so, maybe someone else can design the icon. AutomaticStrikeout ( talk) 22:46, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Right there is where I can see an improvement. WP:Star needs improvement just the same as an article can use some improvement. WP:Star is not telling people clearly what a barnstar is for. It's not going down the line of, what for an article would be called WP:Lede, it's not saying to new editors this for example is a circumstance in which you give a barnstar and this is a circumstance where you give a PUA, and by the way this is what a PUA is and so forth. Basically the WP:Star page is a big pile of crap ! People get confused and for some reason editors here prefer to explain these things on talkpages instead of the actual wikipage, WHY is known only to a hunchback living in a bell-tower in Ciudad del Este in Paraguay near the border with Argentina and Parana, Brazil, but he will only tell you why on tuesdays through thursdays if he is not hungry.
I would like to propose some improvements to the WP:Star page, so that absolutely fair questions like the difference between a Barnstar and a PUA and a cookie (Yuk to cookies btw, The Donut of DOOM is my preference right now) can be explained to just anyone who wants to know. Of course there are people who will lecture "Ohhh Oh we can't go explaining that to people, wikipedia is not this and not that and blah blah de GAk*%$ GAAAaK CKHhH" (I'm strangling them right here, because the WP:Star page should explain what a WP:Star IS, Durr)
But OMG to just get some tiny little thing done around here, OOOhhhh the Drama, you should have seen trying to get an edit notice fixed up, (and it's still not done you know, it's barely passable). Someone said that every thread has to be a Jim Carrey movie, it's either that or an argument and I'm not into conflict, just ask anyone, tell me if they disagree and I'll go pummel them.
We need to know what kind of awards there are, and what is for when and why, and we need to know it Now ! I tell you NOW NOW NOW ! (stamps foot)
P.s. if everything around here is so perfect why did I just make a redirect for WP:Star ? huh huh ? Blah ! this place isn't the second death star half built orbiting the Ewoks moon, it's just some NASA proposal that will never get off the ground. All TALK, no ACTION ! Penyulap ☏ 11:46, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Following a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Teahouse, the following barnstar was created ({{ The New Editor's Barnstar}}):
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The New Editor's Barnstar | |
This award may be presented to very new Wikipedians who have contributed positively to Wikipedia (especially for users who have made under one hundred edits). May their future hold many more barnstars! Mlm42 ( talk) 22:53, 1 April 2012 (UTC) |
Could it be added to the list? I wasn't able to find a barnstar that was specifically for new users.. I've already given it out to over 10 new users who have made great contributions. Thanks, Mlm42 ( talk) 22:53, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Crying-I've have made less than 100 contributions in my first week, and I've not got it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mir Almaat 1 S1 ( talk • contribs) 07:27, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I hereby propose the Commonwealth Barnstar of Merit or Commonwealth Barnstar of International Merit for users who have fine contributions to articles related to the Commonwealth of Nations like Commonwealth Games.. Commonwealth Youth Games..etc..
I am proposing the creation of a Barnstar of National Merit for Scotland, to parallel the one for England at 2.0.
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The Scotland Barnstar of National Merit | |
Your reason here |
-- SabreBD ( talk) 19:15, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
I actually did update both parts, but for some reason it doesn't show in the sample barnstar. This seems to be the best I can manage with my skills and tools.-- SabreBD ( talk) 16:21, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Why not have a Rookie Barnstar? It's a barnstar where you give to Rookie Wikipedians (Those who have registered under a year or less) who has done the most improvement or most helpful contributions.
Note: I cannot design it on my own, I would ask some veteran users to design it instead. GTAjaxoxo (Discuss) 06:40, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Maybe we can make it Most Improved Within One Year Star. GTAjaxoxo (Discuss) 06:57, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
We have a new proposal for a new editor barnstar above. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 10:42, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm not trying to earn this barnstar, I've been in Wikipedia for over 2 years GTAjaxoxo (Discuss) 03:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
I have proposed this thing.
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The South Ossetian Barnstar of National Merit |
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 10:39, 19 May 2012 (UTC) |
Discuss it yourself. South Ossetia is a 22 State recognized non-UN Nation claimed by Georgia. I will only be back in 2013 or 2014. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 10:39, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
I've not made the template! I don't know how! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 04:07, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
{{
The South Ossetia Barnstar of National Merit}}
and added to
Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Barnstar of National Merit.
benzband (
talk)
17:14, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
![]() | Adding a Barnstar to this list
If you don't feel any of these barnstar awards covers the topics you are concerned with, you can always design your own (using these examples, if you like). If you have any questions concerning barnstars, or would like a barnstar to be added to this list, please see WikiProject Wikipedia Awards - a group of volunteers who help guide these pages. Barnstars are listed in chronological order, that is, in the order in which they were introduced to the English Wikipedia. Any new barnstars should be added to the bottom of the appropriate section. Note: Barnstars added without consensus may be removed. |
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I'd like to propose the addition of an edit notice to the Barnstar page. There seem to be quite a few editors who have added Barnstars to the Barnstar page, without pre-approval, it would help as the written text on the page is not sufficient to slow down many editors, it causes embarrassment and useless busywork cleaning up. This defines the purpose of an edit notice. Penyulap ☏ 10:28, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
discussion.
Reopened should this be extended to all the barnstar pages (as listed in
{{
Barnstarpages}}
)?
benzband (
talk)
11:02, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
that would suck just as much. People already know they are on the barnstar page.
![]() | Adding a Barnstar If you would like a barnstar to be added to the list, please discuss it at WikiProject Wikipedia Awards talk page. Please don't add it without a consensus! Barnstars without consensus will be removed. There is a guideline at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Guidelines how to create a Barnstar 2.0. |
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propose a picture like this, which is related to the message. Penyulap ☏
" There is a guideline at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Guidelines how to create a Barnstar 2.0." is not part of the message, I took that out too. Penyulap ☏
![]() | Hold on a moment! If you are here to add a barnstar to the list, please first make sure you have discussed it at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards. |
Non- essential, guaranteed to catch no fish at all.
![]() | You are on the Barnstar page If you would like help adding a barnstar to the list, please discuss it at WikiProject Wikipedia Awards talk page. There is a guideline at Wikipedia:Barnstars 2.0/Guidelines how to create a Barnstar 2.0. |
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If the graphic is no good, you could use a flat hand, palm visible, fingers upright. Penyulap ☏
I really oppose to the idea that we "approve" barnstars; we discuss them and work on improving them and put them in the correct list. We're far more librarians than an editorial board. The visual, any visual even "just" barnstar, tells the reader "no no, please read this", so I'm fine with just the OBS image. Achowat ( talk) 13:14, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict)(inserted at correct point)
I object to the objection that barnstars are rejected only where there are objections. I may be visually based, but there is no way you lot cannot see a pattern emerging here, turn around and pull your pants down and smack your own bottoms the lot of you. You're all naughty if you think this isn't an approval process. Penyulap ☏
I concur; that's why we should try to fix the edit notice. Achowat ( talk) 18:41, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I disagree. This is why we need to make sure we are fixing the right problem first. If you are fixing the wrong problem, then obviously the problem doesn't get fixed. You've just got a bunch of fluff over the top of it. You'll still get reverts on that page, which for reasons beyond me, people think is a good idea. If experienced editors are adding ducks to the list of apples page, it's not because of BRD, it's because your (*&$%#$%%^ apple page looks like a bunch of ducks ! Penyulap ☏
{{
Barnstar pages}}
{{
ombox}}
)Let's keep existentialist essentialist questions about the project in a different section please.
benzband (
talk)
13:57, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
@benzband, no, you don't have to be a sysop; but you need (at least) the Account creator flag. And I agree with the editors above: PUA shouldn't have any edit notice (at the moment, CCC) and the other pages should not have the same message as WP:*. mabdul 13:17, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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![]() | Hold on a moment! If you are here to add a barnstar to the list, please first make sure you have discussed it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards. Please don't add it without a consensus! Barnstars without consensus will be removed. You may alternatively wish to add your new award to this page. |
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I like the try it and see how it goes principle, I always liked that. Cause how are we going to know if it works if we don't try it ? I should add the little hand thing though. Penyulap ☏ 20:22, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
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this talk page. ![]() ![]() |
Here is something I suggest we go ahead and try. Penyulap ☏ 21:04, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
While it may look a little strange at first, consider that if this one is unnecessary whether or not a barnstar image is also unnecessary. Penyulap ☏ 15:40, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Does it seem like we have a few too many general Barnstars for arbitrary things? I believe so. There's the Original Barnstar, and the special Barnstar that have no specific contribution so, don't see why we are compelled to make more specific Barnstars. but when read the description, notice there are Barnstars that fit almost the same description as the other. Actually some of these are rather vague when u start reading them. I believe we should remove some of them. and choose which ones we should keep. And to give an example just so that this doesn't sound like wild accusations for the sake of limiting. Ones typed in Red are the ones that are the ones that share nearly the same description. The ones in Purple will be the ones that seem to be odd description that don't really have much specific use to actually be an award.
Well this is what I found. And yes, I understand there is specific wording that separates certain ones but they all share the same message. Lucia Black ( talk) 00:27, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
When i imagine spam i see intentional large number of unnecesary or unhelpful text on either the article page or talkpage. Defender of the wiki, anti vandalism, and anti spam focus on cleaning on "intentional" damage to articles/talkpage or intentionally changing what wikipedia isnt about. Which intentional damage is in a sense "vandalism". The defender barnstar has two options.
I'm subtly trying to show what Wp:award should really be about. And we have other barnstars that dont make sense. Like surreal barnstar, and barnstars that seem to be made just to be made such as invisible barnstar. Barnstars are slowly changing from symbol of exceptional contribution to "general edits". Lucia Black ( talk) 20:39, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
I largely agree with Lucia and Penyulap on this.. it seems to me the (unfortunate) consensus regarding listing barnstars is that "historical significance" takes precedence over "usefulness to editors". As an obvious example, notice that the barnstar page is listed in chronological order - which is entirely unhelpful! A separate Wikipedia:History of the barnstar could be created for nostalgia purposes.. To me, WP:BARNSTAR should serve two purposes (on top of explaining what a barnstar is): 1) Letting users quickly and efficiently find the award they came looking for, and 2) Giving editors ideas for barnstars that we think should be given out more. Because really, what else is this page for? (and don't say nostalgia..) Mlm42 ( talk) 01:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
For now, like I've mentioned before, these aren't concrete names but the idea of giving them a new name once merged. So if u don't like a current name proposed, suggest which one we should keep or suggest another name. that said, there's also the issue of these being used...so.... suggest not deleting the templates. but removing them from the list. It wont solve it completely for those who just like giving barnstars away who will find them, but it wont have much. Or maybe edit the template saying something like "no longer part of the barnstar list" to keep from being used. As heartless as it sounds, this may be more beneficial. the only ssue s think some are treating this wikiproject na WP:OWN-like way. even though t's not more than one editor. It does show less credibility. Lucia Black ( talk) 04:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
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The Islamic State of Afghanistan Barnstar for National merit |
I propose this. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 07:53, 22 May 2012 (UTC) |
I've already made the template. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 07:54, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
That is about Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, which is the present country. I proposed this award about the Islamic State of Afghanistan which existed from 1992-1996(as the real government of Afghanistan) and 1996-2001(as the country which controlled the provinces which were not controlled by the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is the Taliban Afghanistan. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 04:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
And do you agree? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 06:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
I think Islamic State of Afghanistan and Burhanuddin Rabbani(President), Northern Alliance , War in Afghanistan(1996-2001) and a few others. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 04:43, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
And many other articles too... Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:07, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
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Alright, I've come across a pretty big issue with the way we list the Barnstars. The problem is with the Barnstars and Barnstars 2.0; namely that (by having two different lists, they don't line up). I have no earthly idea how to rectify this situation. Maybe a seperate column on the page with the 2.0 graphic present, I'm not sure. The big problem is that there are Barnstars that exists as BS2.0s but not on the standard Barnstar list, and to make matters worse, many of the Barnstars on the standard list are in 2.0 form! Now I don't mean to deride the good work that's been done by the BS2.0 people; they're useful alternatives. But I just spent 45 minutes creating a "Mediation Barnstar", only to find that one existed, but only as a 2.0! Am I the only one who sees a problem with the current scheme? If so, what can be done to fix it? Achowat ( talk) 19:39, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Upgrade. --
Antonu (
talk)
09:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
OK, I'm nearly finish with merging; Here are some observations:
todo list
mabdul 18:29, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
I want to merge in a similar way now
Reorder the Barnstars either:
mabdul
08:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Merge the WikiProjects barnstars and the 'Topical Barnstars' since many of these template can (and are) listed in both tables.
mabdul
08:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Topical Barnstars