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As lots of the talk pages for ag's currently fall under the banner of the VG project, are we replacing this, or do the games fall under both projects? Burns flipper 11:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm creating this topic to help us keep track of what the members of the project are working on or what changes they've introduced recently. As I mentioned above, I just removed the project template from two articles and plan to start adding it to most, if not all, articles in Category:Adventure games and/or Category:Point-and-click adventure games. I also created two shortcuts for our project, so as to facilitate getting here: WP:ADVENTURE and WP:ADVGAMES. Cromag talk to me 23:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Klytos 05:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Back on topic though, how would one go about expanding the template, as suggested by Burns flipper? My skills in these matters are laughable and I'd do more harm than good if I attempted it. Cromag talk to me 14:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
On a different template topic, if people could give opinions on the templates at the bottom of this article Space Quest V: The Next Mutation. I am of the opinion that it's overkill to have both templates there succession box and SpaceQuest. I would suggest removing the succession box template altogether. Klytos 01:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, I tried to edit the Template:Advenproj, hopefully I didn't break much. I tried to modify the Template:Cvgproj to suit this project's needs. If it breaks pages and is horrible, revert it and tell me to never touch it again. :)-- Wormsie 19:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
What's the Wikipedia policy on (sub)categories? Some game articles are in both Category:Adventure games and Category:Point-and-click adventure games, but the latter is a sub-category of the former. I don't think it needs to be in both, just the lowest level defined? Burns flipper 12:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Under the Categories King's Quest, Space Quest, and Leisure Suit Larry all have their own major category - but I don't see one for Police Quest, also by Sierra in that time period. I couldn't figure out how to add it, either - pardon me, I haven't learned everything, yet. :) Duckingham 20:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey, what practice should be used with the task list? Probably we all re allowed to edit, but if I happen to think that, say, an important task would be to incorporate trivia sections to the main body of all adventure game articles, can I just go ahead and add it or will my edits be subjected to a huge war?-- Wormsie 08:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm working on the Sierra game list, and adding in the Category:Adventure games and Category:Sierra games tags, as well as our adventproj tag to relevant talk pages. Klytos 15:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
You might want to post something to introduce the project at the main WikiProject Video Games. Lots of people don't know you exist. Kariteh 06:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I've been quite effectively able to produce FA-standard game articles, writing Voyage: Inspired by Jules Verne, And Then There Were None, and Murder on the Orient Express by myself from scratch. However, I am absolutely in the dark as to what to put into and how to structure the Agatha Christie series article. What would I put for a series article? My dream has been to raise the Agatha Christie series articles to featured topic status after aquiring FA status for each, so thank you for the positive, and absolutely not blind, support in my FAs, not only for the Agatha games, but also for Voyage ;) I actually didn't know this wonderful project existed and was about to propose it when I stumbled on it through the Myst article! Anyway, any pointers on how to approach a series article would be greatly appreciated, as would any positive comments and/or criticisms on my three FACs.-- Paaerduag 13:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliments! It's always nice to be appreciated ;)-- Paaerduag 04:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi guys, when I first slapped eyes on this project I was quite satisfied that the remit was point and click adventure games, end of. However, I've noticed that the Clock Tower and Alone in the Dark series are also under the adventure banner, which pours cold water over my previous thoughts.
So, this project is definitely for point and click games and anything resembling them, but what about text adventure games? Are all these automatically articles that this project wants a hand in? What about survival horror games? In general or specific titles? Would Haunting Ground and Rule of Rose cast the net too wide for project members? Is Parasite Eve 2 an action RPG hybrid/survival horror game and not to be included?
I'm asking the question because I've been on the look-out for games which would obviously fall under the project's remit but I don't want to start adding things which aren't wanted and causing problems. QuagmireDog 17:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your responses. After going away and thinking about it more the thought of watering-down the project with also-rans gave me a sinking feeling. Instead, I'll bring anything borderline back for discussion and leave survival horror games in their dingy basement. Congrats on the featured articles. A side note: I'm going to be bold and remove the adventure game project marker from Clock Tower 3 and its satellite article Lord Burroughs - it no longer resembles adventure and is a typical survival horror game, hope this is OK. QuagmireDog 16:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
In terms of the scope, I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't draw really strict guidelines and boundaries, but should assess each game in its own right. I mean adventure games are no ordinary genre - they can encompass a wide variety of subgenres. But still, there are a few must haves - Point-and-click are all in, regardless of any other factors; text games (which I am largely unfamiliar with) don't have to be added, only if there are those among you willing to really pour effort into them. I think I'm trying to say that we should add games that we will pour effort into, not games that will just stagnate. Agreed? -- Paaerduag 04:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Lol, what exactly is a text adventure game? -- Paaerduag 09:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I've created the Assessment page, which will allow us to start tracking unassessed pages. It's worth reading, and you should follow the links for all the good stuff. Burns flipper 11:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Also the peer reviews. Burns flipper 13:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Excellent work on the banner and assessment area. I've joined the project and been munching through as many assessments as possible, for quite a number of reasons. Once its back has been broken it will be easy to keep up to date. For the ratings to be balanced, there has to be a good number of low/no importance articles before we pack in the mid+ ones - therefore locating and rating as many articles as possible is important for setting the ultimate priorities. It's also one of those things which indicates to the readers at large that the project is actually alive and kicking. It'd also show how many stubs there are which need expanding etc. etc.
Now as far as the numerous important (mid+) titles such as Full Throttle, Maniac Mansion, King's Quest etc. etc. go, I'll try to place them in the right importance category, but this isn't intended to be 'the definitive' rating. It'll be a group decision as to what our 'top' and 'high' articles are going to be further down the line, rather than one member just arranging them as they see fit, but I'm putting them somewhere rather than leaving them dangling. Likewise, where to place the multiple sequels in the important series in regards to importance is probably going to have to be discussed so an informal guide can be set. For mid importance articles, I'd suggest as a guide once it gets more than 25% of the low rated articles then it probably needs bringing back in line. I just hope the table auto-updates at some point, I've been gawking at it for hours and its getting more and more wrong as assessments are made. Anyways, looking forward to working with y'all, I'll get back to more assessments. QuagmireDog 20:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
The problem with the article Amateur adventure games (which, I'm afraid, is mostly written by me), is that it contains lots of original research. Not much has been written about amateur games - one possibility would be that I would interview some people, and then get, say Adventure Developers publish the article. Many print gaming magazines HAVE covered amateur games, so as an article it's very relevant, but they have mostly been concerned with the games, not the scene...-- Wormsie 09:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
I think you may well find some good sources for the article, I remember wondering where the heck I'd find information on Survival Horror to cite yet there was stacks. Here's one example: [1]. Now that's an article about a particular fan game as well as some general details of fan-games, but still a good potential citation. Likewise, Just Adventure has a massive database of articles, from which there must be some info that can be used as cites. Likewise, there are some other sites which could be of use, and it may well be worth throwing some google-nets out there and seeing what gets dredged up. There's also games like The Shivah which received press from both game journalists and non-gaming reporters - there might be some explanation of amateur gaming in those articles. There's also the other ideas you've suggested, but don't give up, it's only 'original research' until it's slapped with a reliable source. QuagmireDog 11:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Before slapping the template on them, can I have a second opinion on the following: Kroz series, The Thor Trilogy and ZZT are crusty shareware games with ASCII characters, there's probably several more examples out there so some feedback on these would be good for the future.
Freescape is a 3D game game engine rather than an adventure specific engine, however its commercial (and pretty much only notable use) was to create games like Castle Master and Driller (video game). Can these three be signed up? QuagmireDog 20:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Marvellous, done, except for Driller which on closer inspection looked suspect. Castle Master is one of my old favourites, it's all about exploration and riddles etc. Likewise, a couple of the other Freescape games would be suitable if they actually had articles.
Reet, here's some more for perusal: I noticed our sole GA article is Twilight Princess. There's always been "Zelda's no RPG, it's an advencha" discussions for as long as I can remember, so are we going to accept them as adventures and give the rest of the series an overly-familiar hug?
Looking backwards, there's the Dizzy series of games, the 'main' ones of which are what at least one spectrum magazine termed 'collect-em-ups', a small niche of games which was quite popular on the 8 bits and many of which were produced by Codemasters. They're basically fetch-quests with some basic platforming skills required - IE a character might want X item in order to let the player past, player finds X item, unlocks new areas, finds new items to give to other NPCs to access more areas etc. etc. Some (minor) puzzle elements may also be involved. Are collect-em-ups suitable for the project?
Then there's overhead action-adventure type things, like that Fester's Quest for the NES and more recently Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales (which is also stuffed with minigames, man this gets complicated). What about those? There are other examples of these scattered around, same with collect-em-ups (though many don't yet have articles). Again, this is for future reference as well. Thanks :) QuagmireDog 20:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Task forces are supported by the template, so if we want to e.g. all focus on getting the Sierra articles up to the same standard, we can create a task force for this. Burns flipper 14:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it's important we define what information/sections we get on all articles as standard, so we can focus on gathering all the right information from the start. Burns flipper 14:13, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm a bit bias, but I did draw from comments and criticisms of the Voyage article in working on the Agatha Christie articles. I'm of the opinion that the best article I've done is Murder on the Orient Express, and I can't see why that shouldn't be viewed as a model article. Also, since we're dealing with computer games I'm not sure that details like 'publisher' and 'author' are really that important as the majority of references are probably going to be off the internet. Just my pitch though, because of course book references are great. Paaerduag 04:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
What do you think about creating a template for all LucasArts games? This would be my suggestion:
-- Mika1h 16:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering - where are all the Star Wars games? -- Paaerduag 07:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm not a massive fan of these templates, but I must admit it's a nice tight template, not bloated or overly large. Since there seems to be no disagreement with its use would you be happy to roll it out Mika1h? QuagmireDog 18:49, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
The article says: "Chocobo Tales features a mix of three different types of gameplay; role-playing, exploration, and card battles." Exploration and the fact that it contains a story might give it adventure game-ish, but it seems to be quite far from traditional graphic adventures. Not that there's anything wrong with that, and I personally think that adventure games could use more variety, but is Chocobo Tales being called an adventure game going too far?-- Wormsie 07:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello, everybody, I'd like to hear you opinions on two controversial issues about Culpa Innata article. Well, they are not really controversial, but JAF1970 and me have been butting heads over them since yesterday and it doesn't look like we are getting anywhere. These points are:
I would like you to resolve our conflict, because I want that article to become something good (like, GA good), because it describes one of the best adventures of 2007 but is currently in danger of succumbing to an edit war. :( -- Koveras ☭ 20:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
A few hardworking people from the broader video game community has been working hard to clean up the video game genres article and template. Part of our work has stumbled onto the adventure game genre, which has a surprising lack of good research on the numerous subgenres. I'm no expert -- I played a few Sierra games as a kid, and have a soft spot for Maniac Mansion. But I figure I would point you to a few articles you may be able to help us with:
There's a healthy amount of information on text adventure games (listed as interactive fiction). But these other adventure subgenres could use some meat, to give adventure games their respectful importance compared to action games or role playing games. In the short term, these articles may even need a merge -- most graphical adventure games these days are point-and-click, save a brief period where a text parser was still used. Thanks in advance. Randomran ( talk) 04:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I happened to look up the Wikipedia articles on Darkness Within, and, looking at its discussion page, found that it was listed under the Video Games project, but not this one. AS I'm not a member of this project (or, for that matter, a signed-up member of Wikipedia ^^; ), I hesitate to add it to the project myself, and instead mention it here for the members of the project to consider. ^_^
It appears, at time of writing, to be a stub.
41.245.119.214 ( talk) 15:37, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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As a adventure game lover (Point and click / graphic adventure games) I find it rather disturbing that even games with 'adventures' in their title could be considered genuine adventure games as to me it falls under action or rpglike games. It's disturbing when I browse online shops for adventure games (if they even have the genre) to see many non-adventure games pulluting the search results and it seems it has traveled to wikipedia as well. To me these games belong under another category and let adventure games be adventure games. Yes that may include text adventures / interactive fiction, but the demographic of adventure games is surely be different than of these action games calling themselves adventure games. Hope Wikipedia may keep the information correct, as publishers nowadays try to sell action games as adventure games luring the real adventure fans into buying them.. Not that they would be bad games, but not the old school puzzle solving narrative games we expect from them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.214.162.106 ( talk) 03:48, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Adventureland (video game), from 1978, is the first commercially available text adventure, if not the first commercially available adventure game of all time. I don't see how it can conceivably be assessed as "low priority" on the importance scale. Please consider reevaluation. KevinOKeeffe ( talk) 20:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
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Would there be any interest in moving this project to a task force under WP:VG? It would get the project more attention and give the use of the existing VG support structure (peer review, assessment, etc.). Thoughts? ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 08:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
I recently encountered the following article, and, following a link provided by another party, found that, despite the genre indicated in the article, it appeared to be an adventure or perhaps puzzle game.
That said, I played very little of the game indeed, and read but some of the instructional text, so I present it here (and have commented on its discussion page, I think) in the hopes that someone might know better whether the game falls under the purview of this project.
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It's sad to see this wonderful, fun project go inactive. It would be great if we could get some editors collaborating here again.. drunk from nostalgia.. remembering the marvelous merriment of misdeeds from such morons as Roger Wilco... Guybrush Threepwood... or Ernie Eaglebeak. I used to love playing these games as a kid.. still do, with the Lucasfilm, Sierra, and Legend classics being my all-time favorites. Perhaps there even should be a Sierra adventure Taskforce, or LucasArts taskforce? -- œ ™ 05:53, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Koei Warriors Games#Requested move for reasons (this was one of eight related requests). - GTBacchus( talk) 00:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Adventure games →
Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Adventure games — Most game-, franchise-, genre- and platform-specific video game projects have already merged into
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Hey guys,
It has been a while since i've posted on here, but I have written three FAs about adventure games, two ones from the Agatha Christie series, and another game called Voyage: Inspired by Jules Verne. Currently I'm trying to get Voyage onto wikipedia's main page, and the voting is intense and currently tied at 5-5! I would love if I could get some more supports, because there have been a lot of people saying "there are too many video game FAs", but I don't believe articles should be judged by their content, but rather by how well they are written! Please help out guys, it would be a dream to get my FA onto the main page after 3 years of waiting. The link is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/requests#Summary_chart. If even one person could give a support, I would be so greatful. In anticipation of a helping hand, I thank you wholeheartedly. Cheers. -- Paaerduag ( talk) 10:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
With the move to being a task force, it seems like an appropriate time to bring up scope for this project again. What exactly is the scope for this project? Is there a working definition of "adventure game" that we can use to include or exclude titles? For example, I think Zelda does not fall under the scope of this project because it is more properly an action-adventure game and does not descend from the same lineage as more traditional point-and-click adventures. Same with Golden Sun, which is a very straight example of an RPG, not an adventure game. Axem Titanium ( talk) 23:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I've
proposed a comprehensive cleanup of
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As lots of the talk pages for ag's currently fall under the banner of the VG project, are we replacing this, or do the games fall under both projects? Burns flipper 11:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm creating this topic to help us keep track of what the members of the project are working on or what changes they've introduced recently. As I mentioned above, I just removed the project template from two articles and plan to start adding it to most, if not all, articles in Category:Adventure games and/or Category:Point-and-click adventure games. I also created two shortcuts for our project, so as to facilitate getting here: WP:ADVENTURE and WP:ADVGAMES. Cromag talk to me 23:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Klytos 05:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Back on topic though, how would one go about expanding the template, as suggested by Burns flipper? My skills in these matters are laughable and I'd do more harm than good if I attempted it. Cromag talk to me 14:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
On a different template topic, if people could give opinions on the templates at the bottom of this article Space Quest V: The Next Mutation. I am of the opinion that it's overkill to have both templates there succession box and SpaceQuest. I would suggest removing the succession box template altogether. Klytos 01:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, I tried to edit the Template:Advenproj, hopefully I didn't break much. I tried to modify the Template:Cvgproj to suit this project's needs. If it breaks pages and is horrible, revert it and tell me to never touch it again. :)-- Wormsie 19:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
What's the Wikipedia policy on (sub)categories? Some game articles are in both Category:Adventure games and Category:Point-and-click adventure games, but the latter is a sub-category of the former. I don't think it needs to be in both, just the lowest level defined? Burns flipper 12:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Under the Categories King's Quest, Space Quest, and Leisure Suit Larry all have their own major category - but I don't see one for Police Quest, also by Sierra in that time period. I couldn't figure out how to add it, either - pardon me, I haven't learned everything, yet. :) Duckingham 20:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey, what practice should be used with the task list? Probably we all re allowed to edit, but if I happen to think that, say, an important task would be to incorporate trivia sections to the main body of all adventure game articles, can I just go ahead and add it or will my edits be subjected to a huge war?-- Wormsie 08:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm working on the Sierra game list, and adding in the Category:Adventure games and Category:Sierra games tags, as well as our adventproj tag to relevant talk pages. Klytos 15:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
You might want to post something to introduce the project at the main WikiProject Video Games. Lots of people don't know you exist. Kariteh 06:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I've been quite effectively able to produce FA-standard game articles, writing Voyage: Inspired by Jules Verne, And Then There Were None, and Murder on the Orient Express by myself from scratch. However, I am absolutely in the dark as to what to put into and how to structure the Agatha Christie series article. What would I put for a series article? My dream has been to raise the Agatha Christie series articles to featured topic status after aquiring FA status for each, so thank you for the positive, and absolutely not blind, support in my FAs, not only for the Agatha games, but also for Voyage ;) I actually didn't know this wonderful project existed and was about to propose it when I stumbled on it through the Myst article! Anyway, any pointers on how to approach a series article would be greatly appreciated, as would any positive comments and/or criticisms on my three FACs.-- Paaerduag 13:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliments! It's always nice to be appreciated ;)-- Paaerduag 04:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi guys, when I first slapped eyes on this project I was quite satisfied that the remit was point and click adventure games, end of. However, I've noticed that the Clock Tower and Alone in the Dark series are also under the adventure banner, which pours cold water over my previous thoughts.
So, this project is definitely for point and click games and anything resembling them, but what about text adventure games? Are all these automatically articles that this project wants a hand in? What about survival horror games? In general or specific titles? Would Haunting Ground and Rule of Rose cast the net too wide for project members? Is Parasite Eve 2 an action RPG hybrid/survival horror game and not to be included?
I'm asking the question because I've been on the look-out for games which would obviously fall under the project's remit but I don't want to start adding things which aren't wanted and causing problems. QuagmireDog 17:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your responses. After going away and thinking about it more the thought of watering-down the project with also-rans gave me a sinking feeling. Instead, I'll bring anything borderline back for discussion and leave survival horror games in their dingy basement. Congrats on the featured articles. A side note: I'm going to be bold and remove the adventure game project marker from Clock Tower 3 and its satellite article Lord Burroughs - it no longer resembles adventure and is a typical survival horror game, hope this is OK. QuagmireDog 16:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
In terms of the scope, I'm of the opinion that we shouldn't draw really strict guidelines and boundaries, but should assess each game in its own right. I mean adventure games are no ordinary genre - they can encompass a wide variety of subgenres. But still, there are a few must haves - Point-and-click are all in, regardless of any other factors; text games (which I am largely unfamiliar with) don't have to be added, only if there are those among you willing to really pour effort into them. I think I'm trying to say that we should add games that we will pour effort into, not games that will just stagnate. Agreed? -- Paaerduag 04:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Lol, what exactly is a text adventure game? -- Paaerduag 09:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I've created the Assessment page, which will allow us to start tracking unassessed pages. It's worth reading, and you should follow the links for all the good stuff. Burns flipper 11:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Also the peer reviews. Burns flipper 13:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Excellent work on the banner and assessment area. I've joined the project and been munching through as many assessments as possible, for quite a number of reasons. Once its back has been broken it will be easy to keep up to date. For the ratings to be balanced, there has to be a good number of low/no importance articles before we pack in the mid+ ones - therefore locating and rating as many articles as possible is important for setting the ultimate priorities. It's also one of those things which indicates to the readers at large that the project is actually alive and kicking. It'd also show how many stubs there are which need expanding etc. etc.
Now as far as the numerous important (mid+) titles such as Full Throttle, Maniac Mansion, King's Quest etc. etc. go, I'll try to place them in the right importance category, but this isn't intended to be 'the definitive' rating. It'll be a group decision as to what our 'top' and 'high' articles are going to be further down the line, rather than one member just arranging them as they see fit, but I'm putting them somewhere rather than leaving them dangling. Likewise, where to place the multiple sequels in the important series in regards to importance is probably going to have to be discussed so an informal guide can be set. For mid importance articles, I'd suggest as a guide once it gets more than 25% of the low rated articles then it probably needs bringing back in line. I just hope the table auto-updates at some point, I've been gawking at it for hours and its getting more and more wrong as assessments are made. Anyways, looking forward to working with y'all, I'll get back to more assessments. QuagmireDog 20:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
The problem with the article Amateur adventure games (which, I'm afraid, is mostly written by me), is that it contains lots of original research. Not much has been written about amateur games - one possibility would be that I would interview some people, and then get, say Adventure Developers publish the article. Many print gaming magazines HAVE covered amateur games, so as an article it's very relevant, but they have mostly been concerned with the games, not the scene...-- Wormsie 09:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
I think you may well find some good sources for the article, I remember wondering where the heck I'd find information on Survival Horror to cite yet there was stacks. Here's one example: [1]. Now that's an article about a particular fan game as well as some general details of fan-games, but still a good potential citation. Likewise, Just Adventure has a massive database of articles, from which there must be some info that can be used as cites. Likewise, there are some other sites which could be of use, and it may well be worth throwing some google-nets out there and seeing what gets dredged up. There's also games like The Shivah which received press from both game journalists and non-gaming reporters - there might be some explanation of amateur gaming in those articles. There's also the other ideas you've suggested, but don't give up, it's only 'original research' until it's slapped with a reliable source. QuagmireDog 11:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Before slapping the template on them, can I have a second opinion on the following: Kroz series, The Thor Trilogy and ZZT are crusty shareware games with ASCII characters, there's probably several more examples out there so some feedback on these would be good for the future.
Freescape is a 3D game game engine rather than an adventure specific engine, however its commercial (and pretty much only notable use) was to create games like Castle Master and Driller (video game). Can these three be signed up? QuagmireDog 20:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Marvellous, done, except for Driller which on closer inspection looked suspect. Castle Master is one of my old favourites, it's all about exploration and riddles etc. Likewise, a couple of the other Freescape games would be suitable if they actually had articles.
Reet, here's some more for perusal: I noticed our sole GA article is Twilight Princess. There's always been "Zelda's no RPG, it's an advencha" discussions for as long as I can remember, so are we going to accept them as adventures and give the rest of the series an overly-familiar hug?
Looking backwards, there's the Dizzy series of games, the 'main' ones of which are what at least one spectrum magazine termed 'collect-em-ups', a small niche of games which was quite popular on the 8 bits and many of which were produced by Codemasters. They're basically fetch-quests with some basic platforming skills required - IE a character might want X item in order to let the player past, player finds X item, unlocks new areas, finds new items to give to other NPCs to access more areas etc. etc. Some (minor) puzzle elements may also be involved. Are collect-em-ups suitable for the project?
Then there's overhead action-adventure type things, like that Fester's Quest for the NES and more recently Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Tales (which is also stuffed with minigames, man this gets complicated). What about those? There are other examples of these scattered around, same with collect-em-ups (though many don't yet have articles). Again, this is for future reference as well. Thanks :) QuagmireDog 20:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Task forces are supported by the template, so if we want to e.g. all focus on getting the Sierra articles up to the same standard, we can create a task force for this. Burns flipper 14:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it's important we define what information/sections we get on all articles as standard, so we can focus on gathering all the right information from the start. Burns flipper 14:13, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm a bit bias, but I did draw from comments and criticisms of the Voyage article in working on the Agatha Christie articles. I'm of the opinion that the best article I've done is Murder on the Orient Express, and I can't see why that shouldn't be viewed as a model article. Also, since we're dealing with computer games I'm not sure that details like 'publisher' and 'author' are really that important as the majority of references are probably going to be off the internet. Just my pitch though, because of course book references are great. Paaerduag 04:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
What do you think about creating a template for all LucasArts games? This would be my suggestion:
-- Mika1h 16:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering - where are all the Star Wars games? -- Paaerduag 07:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm not a massive fan of these templates, but I must admit it's a nice tight template, not bloated or overly large. Since there seems to be no disagreement with its use would you be happy to roll it out Mika1h? QuagmireDog 18:49, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
The article says: "Chocobo Tales features a mix of three different types of gameplay; role-playing, exploration, and card battles." Exploration and the fact that it contains a story might give it adventure game-ish, but it seems to be quite far from traditional graphic adventures. Not that there's anything wrong with that, and I personally think that adventure games could use more variety, but is Chocobo Tales being called an adventure game going too far?-- Wormsie 07:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello, everybody, I'd like to hear you opinions on two controversial issues about Culpa Innata article. Well, they are not really controversial, but JAF1970 and me have been butting heads over them since yesterday and it doesn't look like we are getting anywhere. These points are:
I would like you to resolve our conflict, because I want that article to become something good (like, GA good), because it describes one of the best adventures of 2007 but is currently in danger of succumbing to an edit war. :( -- Koveras ☭ 20:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
A few hardworking people from the broader video game community has been working hard to clean up the video game genres article and template. Part of our work has stumbled onto the adventure game genre, which has a surprising lack of good research on the numerous subgenres. I'm no expert -- I played a few Sierra games as a kid, and have a soft spot for Maniac Mansion. But I figure I would point you to a few articles you may be able to help us with:
There's a healthy amount of information on text adventure games (listed as interactive fiction). But these other adventure subgenres could use some meat, to give adventure games their respectful importance compared to action games or role playing games. In the short term, these articles may even need a merge -- most graphical adventure games these days are point-and-click, save a brief period where a text parser was still used. Thanks in advance. Randomran ( talk) 04:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
I happened to look up the Wikipedia articles on Darkness Within, and, looking at its discussion page, found that it was listed under the Video Games project, but not this one. AS I'm not a member of this project (or, for that matter, a signed-up member of Wikipedia ^^; ), I hesitate to add it to the project myself, and instead mention it here for the members of the project to consider. ^_^
It appears, at time of writing, to be a stub.
41.245.119.214 ( talk) 15:37, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
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As a adventure game lover (Point and click / graphic adventure games) I find it rather disturbing that even games with 'adventures' in their title could be considered genuine adventure games as to me it falls under action or rpglike games. It's disturbing when I browse online shops for adventure games (if they even have the genre) to see many non-adventure games pulluting the search results and it seems it has traveled to wikipedia as well. To me these games belong under another category and let adventure games be adventure games. Yes that may include text adventures / interactive fiction, but the demographic of adventure games is surely be different than of these action games calling themselves adventure games. Hope Wikipedia may keep the information correct, as publishers nowadays try to sell action games as adventure games luring the real adventure fans into buying them.. Not that they would be bad games, but not the old school puzzle solving narrative games we expect from them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.214.162.106 ( talk) 03:48, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Adventureland (video game), from 1978, is the first commercially available text adventure, if not the first commercially available adventure game of all time. I don't see how it can conceivably be assessed as "low priority" on the importance scale. Please consider reevaluation. KevinOKeeffe ( talk) 20:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
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Would there be any interest in moving this project to a task force under WP:VG? It would get the project more attention and give the use of the existing VG support structure (peer review, assessment, etc.). Thoughts? ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 08:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
I recently encountered the following article, and, following a link provided by another party, found that, despite the genre indicated in the article, it appeared to be an adventure or perhaps puzzle game.
That said, I played very little of the game indeed, and read but some of the instructional text, so I present it here (and have commented on its discussion page, I think) in the hopes that someone might know better whether the game falls under the purview of this project.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steppenwolf:_The_X-Creatures_Project_%28computer_animation%29 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.246.34.166 ( talk) 17:52, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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It's sad to see this wonderful, fun project go inactive. It would be great if we could get some editors collaborating here again.. drunk from nostalgia.. remembering the marvelous merriment of misdeeds from such morons as Roger Wilco... Guybrush Threepwood... or Ernie Eaglebeak. I used to love playing these games as a kid.. still do, with the Lucasfilm, Sierra, and Legend classics being my all-time favorites. Perhaps there even should be a Sierra adventure Taskforce, or LucasArts taskforce? -- œ ™ 05:53, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Koei Warriors Games#Requested move for reasons (this was one of eight related requests). - GTBacchus( talk) 00:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Adventure games →
Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Adventure games — Most game-, franchise-, genre- and platform-specific video game projects have already merged into
WP:WikiProject Video games as task forces/working groups, and there's no reason for this one not to do likewise. It's inconsistent to have it separate, and few editors are only interested in focusing entirely on one game or set of games, so forking this out into its own project actually impedes and splinters collaboration. (See
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Hey guys,
It has been a while since i've posted on here, but I have written three FAs about adventure games, two ones from the Agatha Christie series, and another game called Voyage: Inspired by Jules Verne. Currently I'm trying to get Voyage onto wikipedia's main page, and the voting is intense and currently tied at 5-5! I would love if I could get some more supports, because there have been a lot of people saying "there are too many video game FAs", but I don't believe articles should be judged by their content, but rather by how well they are written! Please help out guys, it would be a dream to get my FA onto the main page after 3 years of waiting. The link is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/requests#Summary_chart. If even one person could give a support, I would be so greatful. In anticipation of a helping hand, I thank you wholeheartedly. Cheers. -- Paaerduag ( talk) 10:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
With the move to being a task force, it seems like an appropriate time to bring up scope for this project again. What exactly is the scope for this project? Is there a working definition of "adventure game" that we can use to include or exclude titles? For example, I think Zelda does not fall under the scope of this project because it is more properly an action-adventure game and does not descend from the same lineage as more traditional point-and-click adventures. Same with Golden Sun, which is a very straight example of an RPG, not an adventure game. Axem Titanium ( talk) 23:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I've
proposed a comprehensive cleanup of
WP:VG's inactive task forces (which would include redirecting all task force talk pages and renaming the adventure TF), if you'll take a look czar
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