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The overwhelming response last time was that the redesign was too busy, and that the box bottoms didn't line up. This draft has been simplified, getting back to basics. Two side-by-side boxes are used, which line up at the bottom like the current Main Page. If Pic of the Day is to be added every day, rather than just on weekends, then one of the column boxes will have a lot of blank space. Therefore, if the POTD is to be added as a regular daily feature, another regular feature needs to be developed for the adjacent column. "Tip of the day" might be worthy. Any ideas? Go for it! 16:59, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Another recurring theme of critiques has been a negative reaction to pastel colors and too many colors. Comments included comparisons with a nursery, easter eggs, and M&Ms. So the color backgrounds have been removed, while the color borders have been retained and reduced. Go for it! 17:10, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
In the last round of discussions, a couple comments were made in favor of rounded corners like those found on the Italian Wikipedia Main Page. If there is enough interest expressed this time around, perhaps the next redesign will include them. But the main question right now is: is Draft 4 worthy of replacing the current Main Page? Go for it! 17:10, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I started it. I repeat myself here, since the old comment is hard to find:
Federico Pistono 18:30, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought a little more color would be nice, so I tried adding heading background color, and it looks even better than the current draft. However, the "In the news" template and the additional feature template below it both have the headings built-in, so I couldn't gain access to change them because those pages are protected. Therefore, I created 2 new templates, and placed the news and picture in them respectively, without the headings. Unfortunately, these 2 templates will have to be updated every day. Go for it! 19:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Why is there no linkage to these newcomer friendly pages? -- hydnjo talk 19:23, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Okay, here is what I've just learned or have done:
Does this solve the problem to your satisfaction? Go for it! 20:00, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
I was pointed here from Talk:Main_Page, so I’ll copy & paste my comment :) "I think [the images] would look better with a thin 1px black border around them, something to separate them from the rest of the page." porges 20:32, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
What drew my attention to the original draft was the second search box in the yellow heading. I have tweaked the draft I mocked up a few days ago, to use the original draft header, with the search box. It also differs from the current draft, in that the browse topics, as well as the Almanac, Categories, FAQ ... links are below the yellow box — not in it. See User:Kmf164/Main_page_draft. —-- Aude ( talk | contribs) 00:55, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Although I do like some things about the Italian version, I'm not sure about the snowflakes...
jnothman talk 02:55, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
A user on Talk:Main page suggested putting the "other languages" on the left side, as is done with all other articles. I think it's a good idea, making good use of available white space on the left. We could then either remove the "other languages" from the bottom of the main page, or still keep those links at the bottom to double-reinforce the point that Wikipedia is in so many languages. Any thoughts? —-- Aude ( talk | contribs) 05:05, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
I added a slight bit of background color for those who mentioned it was too bright. Go for it! 10:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Added spacing under headings, so that pictures no longer touch the heading background. Go for it! 11:03, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Okay, as per CJ's suggestion, the heading bars are now full width.
I took a look at the Community Portal's connectivity. It's the second entry on the navigation menu on the left sidebar, and so it's pretty accessible. Though I was surprised that it wasn't so much as mentioned in the help page, so I added 3 links to it there. I was shocked that it wasn't included in Portal:Browse, which covers portals, so I added 2 links there. And we may have something more for the Main Page Redesign in Draft 5.
According to the article on the nuvola icons, there are 600 of them. I can only locate about 35 of them. Can anyone help me out here? Go for it! 14:20, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
The overwhelming response last time was that the redesign was too busy, and that the box bottoms didn't line up. This draft has been simplified, getting back to basics. Two side-by-side boxes are used, which line up at the bottom like the current Main Page. If Pic of the Day is to be added every day, rather than just on weekends, then one of the column boxes will have a lot of blank space. Therefore, if the POTD is to be added as a regular daily feature, another regular feature needs to be developed for the adjacent column. "Tip of the day" might be worthy. Any ideas? Go for it! 16:59, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Another recurring theme of critiques has been a negative reaction to pastel colors and too many colors. Comments included comparisons with a nursery, easter eggs, and M&Ms. So the color backgrounds have been removed, while the color borders have been retained and reduced. Go for it! 17:10, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
In the last round of discussions, a couple comments were made in favor of rounded corners like those found on the Italian Wikipedia Main Page. If there is enough interest expressed this time around, perhaps the next redesign will include them. But the main question right now is: is Draft 4 worthy of replacing the current Main Page? Go for it! 17:10, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I started it. I repeat myself here, since the old comment is hard to find:
Federico Pistono 18:30, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
I thought a little more color would be nice, so I tried adding heading background color, and it looks even better than the current draft. However, the "In the news" template and the additional feature template below it both have the headings built-in, so I couldn't gain access to change them because those pages are protected. Therefore, I created 2 new templates, and placed the news and picture in them respectively, without the headings. Unfortunately, these 2 templates will have to be updated every day. Go for it! 19:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Why is there no linkage to these newcomer friendly pages? -- hydnjo talk 19:23, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Okay, here is what I've just learned or have done:
Does this solve the problem to your satisfaction? Go for it! 20:00, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
I was pointed here from Talk:Main_Page, so I’ll copy & paste my comment :) "I think [the images] would look better with a thin 1px black border around them, something to separate them from the rest of the page." porges 20:32, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
What drew my attention to the original draft was the second search box in the yellow heading. I have tweaked the draft I mocked up a few days ago, to use the original draft header, with the search box. It also differs from the current draft, in that the browse topics, as well as the Almanac, Categories, FAQ ... links are below the yellow box — not in it. See User:Kmf164/Main_page_draft. —-- Aude ( talk | contribs) 00:55, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Although I do like some things about the Italian version, I'm not sure about the snowflakes...
jnothman talk 02:55, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
A user on Talk:Main page suggested putting the "other languages" on the left side, as is done with all other articles. I think it's a good idea, making good use of available white space on the left. We could then either remove the "other languages" from the bottom of the main page, or still keep those links at the bottom to double-reinforce the point that Wikipedia is in so many languages. Any thoughts? —-- Aude ( talk | contribs) 05:05, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
I added a slight bit of background color for those who mentioned it was too bright. Go for it! 10:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Added spacing under headings, so that pictures no longer touch the heading background. Go for it! 11:03, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Okay, as per CJ's suggestion, the heading bars are now full width.
I took a look at the Community Portal's connectivity. It's the second entry on the navigation menu on the left sidebar, and so it's pretty accessible. Though I was surprised that it wasn't so much as mentioned in the help page, so I added 3 links to it there. I was shocked that it wasn't included in Portal:Browse, which covers portals, so I added 2 links there. And we may have something more for the Main Page Redesign in Draft 5.
According to the article on the nuvola icons, there are 600 of them. I can only locate about 35 of them. Can anyone help me out here? Go for it! 14:20, 8 January 2006 (UTC)