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Are all state highways notable enough for an article? I'm thinking specifically in terms of the number of articles that could be added to List of Minnesota state highways. For example, Minnesota State Highway 210 is notable because it traverses nearly the entire state of Minnesota. On the other hand, Minnesota State Highway 289 is less than a mile long, and just a short connector from Minnesota State Highway 73 to a state prison. I don't want to create a bunch of articles just to create roadcruft that'll go to WP:AFD. So, are there any standards in place? -- E lkman - (talk) 18:57, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
There is a stub, along with a whole mess of redirects at Farm to Market Road that speaks about this sort of road fairly generally, but using the specific example of Texas, which is covered in more depth at Texas ranch to market road. Does another state support RM and FM roads like Texas? Iowa's DOT talks about it, a little. Someone from there listening, and able to chime in? My plan, if there is a need for this, will be to put links to specific systems on the more general page as they crop up, and try to flesh that page out a little (or should that go to a disambiguation pointing at the various systems?) If not, wouldn't they be duplicates, and suggestible for AfD?
In another vein, TxDOT's designation for the system is the Farm to Market Road system, so unless someone just has fits over it, I'm thinking to swap the Texas ranch to market road and the redirect to it at Texas farm to market road. Even west of US 281, a great many of these are signed "Farm Road", including the one I live on. They are much more commonly known as FM roads by residents of Texas. Any thoughts? -- DavidBavousett 03:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
I suggest putting the Texas information at Farm to Market Road and general information (a road connecting a farm to a market etc) at farm to market road. -- SPUI ( talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 07:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Any one interested in joining me with setting up a Utah Highways Wikiproject? A dmrb♉ltz ( T | C | k) 20:15, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Utah State Highways has been created as a shell. A dmrb♉ltz ( T | I | E ) 04:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Anyone else interested in an Ohio roads wikiproject? Micheal 04:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I keep running into the ends of these state highways/routes/roads/whatever at Wikipedia:WikiProject Illinois State Routes :-). I'd start these projects, but I have very little to no knowledge of any highways in these states. Feel free to copy the Illinois WP structure and make it your own, though.
As an aside, I believe they are now Indiana State Roads, Wisconsin State Trunk Highways (which I shorten to Wisconsin State Highway), Iowa... something... and Illinois Routes. Oh goody. I just want more than just me to confirm the other states. — Rob ( talk) 12:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I have begun to work on the Wisconsin State Highway pages and support items as of yesterday - currently at Wis-17. -- master_son Lets talk 23:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Go ahead and start the projects if you want... I'll help if I can. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 23:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Wisconsin Highways has been built and is live - please help out where you can and sign up your name there w00t -- master_son Lets talk 01:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if this is widely known, but if you're developing infobox code, there's now something you can use for that kilometers field. Here's what I did for the Illinois state routes:
| {{{length_mi}}} miles ({{ #expr: {{{length_mi}}} * 1.609344 round 2 }} km)
#expr: allows you to calculate numbers on the fly. It's rounded off to hundreths of a kilometer because that's the most precise field that Illinois can give us on GIS data, even if I still do most of my calculations using whole numbers on an atlas. — Rob ( talk) 17:09, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Anyone possibly interested in helping out with a Georgia WikiProject? A fair number of pages have already been started, but a lot of them could use some fleshing out and there are still plenty that haven't been covered yet. What with the end of my semester approaching, I should soon find myself with a lot of time on my hands to get this thing going... – Pedriana 17:48, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
This topic just came up on the roadgeek list, and I don't necessarily have the time to track down all of the information on the FHWA page. Can someone expand Clearview (typeface) further? Thanks. Clearview is a proposed, recently approved new font for road signs in the U.S. — Rob ( talk) 17:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
We should list Interstate 5...980.svg shields for deletion. They've been supplanted by I-5..980.svg... right? At the very least, bot should rename all Interstate 5..980.svg shields to I-5..980.svg shields, in spite of thumbnail problems. — Rob ( talk) 16:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
For interested parties and courtesy of the roadgeek list, the Illinois Tollway has put up a survey for what sorts of signs would work best on their toll plazas. The link is here.
The tollway currently uses black text on white signs for overhead gantries related to toll plazas. They replaced black text on yellow signs, which, as warning signs, worked... but I don't know of any white signs like that anywhere else (haven't thought very hard). — Rob ( talk) 02:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I have been working on articles for Nevada state routes, such as creating stubs and adding infoboxes to existing articles. However, I recently noticed that a few existing articles were copyvios. The source for the articles I'm working on is NevadaDOT which is public domain, but the copyvio articles originally came from AARoads.com, word for word, submitted by an anonymous editor. If anyone could help me with these Nevada highway articles, that would be great. (I thank
User:Vegaswikian for his efforts.) I also wish to create the
Interstate 80 in Nevada article (it's currently a redirect to
Interstate 80 for now.) --
Geopgeop
03:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I think I messed up on Nevada State Route 171 and its related pages specific to it, please help... -- Geopgeop 09:18, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Also, can anyone please create the Nevada state route shields? Probably in the form Image:Nevada X.svg ? It doesn't have to be now, due to that SVG bug, but I'd appreciate it if it's created sometime in the near future. Thanks. -- Geopgeop 22:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm near a third done with creating stubs for the highways in Nevada. Does anybody want to evaluate the progress so far? -- Geopgeop 20:23, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I will make maps on request, if you can point me to a source that shows exactly where the routes run (or I know of one). -- SPUI ( T - C) 22:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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Might as well advertise this here - I'm proposing to move the disambiguation paces like Route 1 to list of highways numbered 1. -- SPUI ( T - C) 18:12, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, considering that Tennessee, the state with some of the nation's best maintained and highest quality roads, or so I'm told, has no official State Route Wikiproject, I would like to try and start one. I know there is a basic framework already established, but any advice, or resources, or just generalinput would definitely be appreciated. Thanks. -- Antjon1 05:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Is it standard practice to include a browse box in the routebox (see U.S. Route 8)? Wisconsin was already in there, and while I was working on M-8 I added that. In addition to that browse box, on many articles, individual state related highway browse boxes are near the bottom of the article on where that particular article's highway fits in with the states local system.
So I guess my questions are:
I'd like some discussion on this, and if it's been discussed before, I apologize, but link me to it. My main concern is routebox becoming too long, especially for the coast-coast U.S. Routes. Also, as on U.S. Route 8 while WI has a US Route browse in the routebox, it has an exact duplicate in the browse at the bottom of the page; which I expect was intended to be where US 8 fits in with the Wisconisin highway system. Stratosphere ( talk - Contrib) 02:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Whoa there... let me give the history of the browse box first. It started at WP:CASH when we had it in the routebox browsing CA State Routes. Then it moved to WA and other states. When we started the Interstate and US Route projects we didn't want to mess up CA's and WA's system, so we put a CA browse and WA browse in the routebox. But then we had a Mediation Cabal case where SPUI disagreed with this practice. Thus the browses for interstates and USRs got moved to the bottom (or were supposed to. after the arbcom case came I ran out of time). Then SPUI began placing some back in the routebox again for Interstates and U.S. Routes. So now there is no officially established standard, with OK using the bottom, CA trying to convert to the bottom, but it not taking effect, WA using the routebox... -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 16:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Thought I'd point it out... The browse boxes cover all routes within the state (Interstate, U.S. and State routes inclusive) there's no real way of putting a list of routes on the page like we do with the interstates and the US Routes because then the Interstate and US Route articles will get pretty cluddered with all of the boxes on them. This saves room, and permits browsing through the list of routes by state. Quite true we don't have a standard and should agree on one - but we should follow this slowly. There is also talk of making route articles for each Interstate and US route within a state. such as U.S._Route_10_in_Wisconsin. while it allows for details by state - all these articles can become cumbersume and overloading. There are many pros and cons out there. -- master_son Lets talk 20:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Returning to the point of this section, the standardizing of browsing numbered routes, after looking around, it appears that a standard is taking place. See U.S. Route 9 and U.S. Route 9E for examples of inter- and intra-state U.S. route browsing. From the way it is being implemented on both U.S. routes and Interstates, here's the standard as it is used in practice:
-- TMF T - C 12:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Wished I'd gotten in this discussion. Oh well. The way Illinois is, is the following:
Okay, I gave the website 3 months to be relevant. Time's up. I need all mentions of Illinois Highways to leave. Most of it is obvious, or has been mentioned in other, better places. The images look like they were taken straight from here or possibly the commons themselves (which isn't in itself bad, but it's acting as a mirror of other sources). It's not a good external link. It's not a good source.
Is there a bot out there that can do this for me? — Rob ( talk) 21:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Any Rhode Geeks (heh) or CT roadgeeks want to help me start up WikiProjects for their respective states? I'm already working on Massachusetts, since I live there, but being that states are so small up in these parts, I'll help out with CT and RI as well (also NH, since I love NH, but they already have WP:NHSH).
Connecticut seems to need a lot of attention, especially considering there are almost no SVGs for their state highway signs. They use a rectangle, like Massachusetts and Maine, but it has a thicker border, e.g.
for Massachusetts vs.
for Connecticut. I've seen a few old-school CT-15 shields (with the state outline) on the
Merritt Parkway, but I believe those are being phased out (personally, I love it when a state uses its outline on state highway shields, so I'm a bit saddened by this).
SPUI seems to want a CT DOT standard drawing for making the route shield. I can't seem to find one, and I'm not quite sure why it's necessary, but I suppose it's better to go official as far as that's concerned.
Rhode Island seems to have all their SVGs up, and they appear to be using a standard info box (scratch that, an info box is needed on
Route 146 (Rhode Island) which is a major thoroughfare between Providence and Worcester, for example). They also seem to be using a format that's similar to that used on the Massachusetts project, see
Route 51 (Rhode Island) for an example.
Tckma 16:55, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
None of these items deserves their own section, but as a whole if you have some input, I'd be glad to hear it.
Thanks. — Rob ( talk) 20:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
That's a good question. Let me peek at a sign tomorrow and find out. I thought it was "DU PAGE" in spite of the fact that it's officially DuPage County, Illinois. — Rob ( talk) 00:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Can someone fill in Connecticut in this graphic? We've started WP:CTRT for it.
Should we sign up for User:Werdnabot for all the state hwy WP talk pages? And say archive all stuff older than 60 days? -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 23:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know what the technical term for this part of the page is, but I could use some suggestions on Template:Chicagoland expressways. It generally goes on the bottom of all of the articles contained within the template. Thanks in advance! — Rob ( talk) 19:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Trains/Maps_task_force.
Seeing as I doubt User:Stratosphere will be doing maps for all kinds of routes for all 50 states and the District of Columbia, this may not be a bad thing to create. That way if ever concerns about maps or adjustments need to be made, they can all be located there. — Rob ( talk) 19:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Rather than necessarily having 50 descendant wikiprojects (or more, if we end up with Wikiprojects for non-"state highways" in some states, as already is the case for CA), have you considered a similar structure to that used by WP:MILHIST, i.e. a single wikiproject, with a locally hierarchical organisation? Just a thought. Alai 23:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Since the Massachusetts Turnpike article is not under the jurisdiction of WP:MASH, I figured I'd comment here as well. On the talk page, I suggested some sections to be added to the article. I can take care of one of them after this weekend, I think. -- Tckma 18:38, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
For those who haven't noticed, a list of redirect lists has been set up at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Redirects. I tried to point the links at the existing redirect completion lists for each project, but if your project has one and I missed it, fix it up. — Scott5114 ↗ 18:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I'd have thought a "state highway" was something that had "State Highway Farble" or "Route Hoohah" as/in its name, but I may be sadly misinformed here. For example, this edit confuses me: interstate highways are state highways? And what about Texas Farm Roads, are they "Texas state highways"? Alai 00:33, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Just in case you miss it, Interstate 10 in Texas is on the main page under the "Did You Know?" section for new articles. Hopefully this will get things going in a post-naming controversy WikiProject. -- Holderca1 19:49, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Just a heads-up... Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Minnesota State Highway 91. Kirjtc2 21:53, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I found the RI State Route Sign Specs. See Talk:Numbered_routes_in_Rhode_Island#State_Sign_Specs. -- xxpor ( Talk | Contribs ) 02:10, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I created a SVG for the Minnesota State Route Marker. The colors should be right, an also the aspect ratios. Since I'm not from the U.S. I'm not too keen on making a SVG for every PNG Image out there ... but, if anyone neads help, drop me a line @ de:Benutzer:Ucc.
In the commons I added a new category (
commons:Category:Minnesota_State_Route_markers) an I allready created a marker for Route 62:
-- 217.224.143.117 19:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Why not have a project for roads outside the continious 48 states? Since Hawaii, Alaska, and all those other territories/islands/commonwealths/whatevers don't (in my opinion) have enough roads in themselves to really justify there own projects, then why not have one for all of them?
This may be nothing more than a passing thought, but should there be a WikiProject that manages all of the former New England Interstate Routes? Since the articles on these transcend state lines, no one state WikiProject is truly able to regulate these articles, resulting in the wide variation that currently exists from one article to the next. Thoughts? -- TMF T - C 00:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Should we create another subproject (like Maps and Assessment) for Shields? -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 03:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
These websites would provide a good start for making sheilds:
If you use any of these sites, it might be a good courtesy to contact the creators of the site to see about using their work. Their level of roadgeekdom MAY interest them in becoming involved in this project anyways, and we may be creating new wikipedians. -- Jayron32 03:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Geopgeop here. I just took somewhat of a wikibreak in doing the Nevada shields on Commons: my laptop where I keep the template images is down; I finally extracted them from its hard drive just recently. Anyways, reading the uploading procedure for Commons, and not having been on there in a while, it seems they want permissions requests done in email and forwarded to Wikimedia, when what I did was talk over the phone with an employee of NevadaDOT. I'd like these permissions reaffirmed (I got the design from NevadaDOT directly by email). Can someone please do this for me? I'll give the email address of the NevadaDOT contact, just tell them Geopgeop asked. -- Geopgeop 11:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm openly calling out for a WikiProject for South Carolina State Highways. Who wants to start one? You'd better not ask me, because I don't know enough about them, but I'm willing to contribute anyway. DanTD 20:05, 19 October 2006 (EST)
Okay, so it's pretty much safe to say that we've made it through the WP:SRNC mess somewhat intact. Unfortunately, we have lost users. Which was probably inevitable as there would have been some who would have left no matter which way the poll went. But anyway... the problems this bring are a) of course they're part of our team and we'll miss them and b) there is now a vacuum as they performed jobs that now are going undone.
So I'm suggesting a) being nice to these users if they return, b) us stepping up to perform the tasks that they did and c) recruit new users. By using stuff like {{ welcomeroad}} to make new contributors feel included and connected. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 03:39, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
The numbered highway list articles have two articles : List of highways numbered 155 and Route 155, and it is like that for many of them, should there be two? and if not, maybe one should be redirected to the other. I address this here for you guys work on the highways in the US and are more aware of what to do about that. Lincher 21:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, just merge them. However, there's another problem that I've been meaning to bring up: miscellaneous people have been adding shield images to the lists, usually going through and adding shields for their state to all the pages. Should we go and put shields next to each highway in the list? I don't think it's necessary and it seems cluttered. Would like others' opinions on this. — Scott5114 ↗ 21:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
If anybody has any free time on their hands... I'm tied up with all my tasks plus having to assume other ones that departed users did... and meanwhile we keep losing templates to TFD like {{ 3di 16}}... could someone be monitoring those venues? I usually do that but I just don't have the time anymore. I have 2000 edits on my to do list... -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 06:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Is there a quick and easy way to put a large number of articles on your watch list? Since an article has to be tagged before it is deleted, someone would notice it sooner, I check my watchlist regularly. -- Holderca1 19:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
We need to create a tutorial page on how to write and edit highway articles. We have way too many new users messing up pages and not following WP:MOS or this project and subprojects. This is taking too much time away from stuff that needs to get done (like moving those pages).
Also, could someone review the edits of User:Odyssey19? They have made hundreds of edits that have deleted the prose of the Nevada State Route articles. However, you can't rollback, as they did add an infobox too. I would do it but I have a to-do list of at least 5000 or so edits... -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 21:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
At the bottom of U.S. Route 6's article page, there is a browse box. Nevada's part of the browse box is off, as it uses srbox instead of {{ nv browse}}. {{ nv browse}} exists, but is not yet set up like the other states, like {{ ca browse}} or {{ co browse}}. Please check and fix for consistency. -- Geopgeop 23:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Do we feel that Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-14 U.S. Roads naming fallout is necessary? Is there enough goodwill? -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 23:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Recent changes in the way the assessment log table is constructed has expanded the template itself and has made pages where the template is transcluded a mess. Would anyone object to the removal of the assessment table from the sidebar template? -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 20:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
For teh California and Nevada browse boxes, the type I've used is "State Route" versus simply "State". Using "State Route" and not automatically having Route appended to the link is helpful because then we don't get "Interstate Route". I'm planning on fixing all of the other ones unless someone objects (and yes, that means fixing each and every single article too...) but it makes for much neater coding.
I'll be making some changes to Infobox road and the browse box coding as it's currently a mess right now. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 02:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
For PA articles (no weird links): |
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Template:Infobox road/PA/link PA is called upon if type=PA is specified. The resulting link is Pennsylvania Route "num". |
Template:Infobox road/PA/link Interstate is called upon if type=Interstate is specified. The resulting link is Interstate "num" (Pennsylvania). |
Out of curiosity, why are you having California's browse display as "Route" instead of "SR/US/I-" like most states?
Also, to TwinsMetsFan -- I believe most states use "U.S." rather than "US" for type. -- NORTH talk 23:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Especially in the case of Wisconsin, there seem to be many articles about highways that pass through a state seperate from the main article, such as U.S. Route 10 in Wisconsin. Should these not be merged into the main article about that highway?( U.S. Route 10) This seems very redundant and it would make more sense to put all that info in the main article. Discuss? Dskluz 05:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Just to give two examples, Iowa Highway 92 has 1 going across the bottom, which is listed when you edit it as RouteboxIA and Iowa Highway 175 has one in the upper right which is listed as Infobox road. Which one is proper? DandyDan2007 13:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't appear a project for Nebraska is happening. I'd be interested in doing it, but it just looks so huge. I only ask about Nebraska because I live there. I could also do some for other nearby states as well. DandyDan2007 13:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
So now that most of the highway projects use some form of {{ infobox road}} (whether called directly or using a template like {{ infobox WA State Route}}), does it truly matter specifically which template is used?
For example, Interstate 195 (New Jersey) is an interstate highway wholly within New Jersey. Does it have to use {{ infobox Interstate}}, or is it okay to use {{ infobox road}} with state=NJ. The only loss of information using infobox_road is the line saying "Auxiliary route...", whereas using the interstate infobox either forces the browsing to the bottom of the article in an srbox, or removes the State highways in New Jersey link from the infobox, replacing it with an out-of-place postal abbreviation.
The "Auxiliary route" line can be added manually using {{ infobox road}}, so there really is no loss of information necessary -- whereas {{ infobox Interstate}} can't be modified to use state highway browsing ideally (with the clear header link). -- NORTH talk 09:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
West Boulevard | |
Route information | |
Length | 2 mi (3.2 km) |
Major junctions | |
North end |
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South end |
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Location | |
Country | United States |
State | South Dakota |
Highway system | |
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I got this to work; any comments? V60 22:20, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
{{Infobox Interstate |article_route=476 |type=Auxiliary |map= |length_mi=130.5 |length_round=2 |length_ref= |length_notes= |year_established=1974 |city= |direction_a=North |terminus_a=[[Image:I-81.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 81|I-81]] near [[Clarks Summit, Pennsylvania|Clarks Summit]] |junction=[[Image:I-80.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 80|I-80]] near [[Hickory Run State Park]]<br>[[Image:US 209.svg|25px]] [[U.S. Route 209|US 209]] near [[Lehighton, Pennsylvania|Lehighton]]<br>[[Image:I-78.svg|20px]] [[Image:US 22.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 78|I-78]] [[U.S. Route 22|US 22]] near [[Allentown, Pennsylvania|Allentown]]<br>[[Image:I-276.svg|25px]] [[Image:Pennsylvania Turnpike logo.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 276|I-276]]/[[Pennsylvania Turnpike]] at the [[Mid-County Interchange]]<br>[[Image:I-76.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 76 (east)|I-76]] near [[Conshohocken, Pennsylvania|Conshohocken]]<br>[[Image:US 30.svg|20px]] [[U.S. Route 30|US 30]] near [[Radnor, Pennsylvania|Radnor]]<br>[[Image:US 1.svg|20px]] [[U.S. Route 1|US 1]] near [[Springfield, Pennsylvania|Springfield]] |direction_b=South |terminus_b=[[Image:I-95.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 95|I-95]] near [[Chester, Pennsylvania|Chester]] |browse={{Infobox road/PA main}} {{pa browse|previous_type=PA|previous_route=475|next_type=PA|next_route=477}} {{pa browse|previous_type=PA|previous_route=8|route=[[Image:PA-9.svg|20px]]|next_type=PA|next_route=10}} {{pa browse|previous_type=Interstate|previous_route=479|route=[[Image:I-480.svg|25px]]|next_type=PA|next_route=481}} {{Infobox road/PA links}} |shield_ext= }}
I went and checked the Interstate 195 (New Jersey) article, and I found something that isn't right. The I-195 shield is way too small and should follow the size set in {{ Infobox Interstate}}. Comments before using {{ Infobox Interstate}} but still retaining NJ Route links? V60 22:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree with TMF... for example on Interstate 99 the main template should not be transcluded. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 01:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
On my personal sandbox tailored for template construction, I am currently in the process of creating a new sub-template of {{ Infobox Interstate}} with some attributes tailored for Intrastate Interstates. Right now, it is an absolute disaster with the sample infobox, but should not look like that once I (or somebody else) gets the juices flowing. Comments are appreciated in this section. V60 02:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that half of the posts I see on route article talk pages are along the lines of "How long does it take to get from A to B" or "Really? I thought that it was the other way around..." Frankly it's starting to get annoying. There's a reference desk for that sort of thing. But what do we do about it though? We can't slap a tag on all the pages and say "This is for discussing the article not the road..." -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 07:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I've created Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Subprojects. I could use help in perfecting the new project mechanism though... (To test it choose a state that has no project and create it. Then tag it for speedy when you're done.) -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 21:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I've created it at WP:USRD/P to hold a list of old debates for future reference. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 01:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I have been working on creating articles for Alabama highways as of late and decided to start a WikiProject. I am very new to this and simply used another state as a template but would love to make this the definitive source for Alabama highways on the net. Love to see contributions from all those interested in the byways of the Heart of Dixie!
Here it is: Wikipedia:WikiProject Alabama Highways - Patriarca12 16:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Should you go west-to-east or east-to-west? South-to-north or north-to-south? I would assume you begin at the west and the south, but I see some written the other way. DandyDan2007 13:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I just created a template to help ease the creation of exit and junction lists, as of right now it is specific for Texas highways, but I can always change it to make it more general if there is interest in it. There is one item that I need to work on is the image size for 3di routes, but I will get to that soon enough. Comments are welcome. -- Holderca1 20:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I ran into a problem subst: this template, with all the embedded templates and #if functions, it creates a mess. -- Holderca1 23:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe we could have just a national Template:Junction, with the type parameter being the postal abbrevation for the state for state highways (eg, for a New Mexico state highway, have the type be NM, for Oklahoma, OK)? Also, how about a space in between the shields? — Scott5114 ↗ 05:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Okay, working on making this work for every state, the biggest problem I am running into is that not every state is using infobox road, so when this template tries to pull from one of those templates, it gets an empty template. I created a few just for testing, but until all of those are created, this can't be used for every state. This version is still in my sandbox for now until I am sure all the kinks have been worked out. Here is a sample though (note this is not a real junction, just an example of the results it gives):
-- Holderca1 15:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
See Template talk:Infobox road#Recent changes in color/design. -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 22:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Just a heads-up: a proposal to merge Cedar Crest Boulevard, Lehigh Street, and Tilghman Street, three non-notable streets in the Allentown, Pennsylvania area, into a single Roads of Allentown, Pennsylvania article was offered on December 19 by myself, but removed only nine days later by an editor who appears to have an Allentown bias. Opinions on the merge proposal (which I believe is still active despite the lack of tags) is appreciated at Talk:Roads of Allentown, Pennsylvania. Thanks. -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 04:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
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Are all state highways notable enough for an article? I'm thinking specifically in terms of the number of articles that could be added to List of Minnesota state highways. For example, Minnesota State Highway 210 is notable because it traverses nearly the entire state of Minnesota. On the other hand, Minnesota State Highway 289 is less than a mile long, and just a short connector from Minnesota State Highway 73 to a state prison. I don't want to create a bunch of articles just to create roadcruft that'll go to WP:AFD. So, are there any standards in place? -- E lkman - (talk) 18:57, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
There is a stub, along with a whole mess of redirects at Farm to Market Road that speaks about this sort of road fairly generally, but using the specific example of Texas, which is covered in more depth at Texas ranch to market road. Does another state support RM and FM roads like Texas? Iowa's DOT talks about it, a little. Someone from there listening, and able to chime in? My plan, if there is a need for this, will be to put links to specific systems on the more general page as they crop up, and try to flesh that page out a little (or should that go to a disambiguation pointing at the various systems?) If not, wouldn't they be duplicates, and suggestible for AfD?
In another vein, TxDOT's designation for the system is the Farm to Market Road system, so unless someone just has fits over it, I'm thinking to swap the Texas ranch to market road and the redirect to it at Texas farm to market road. Even west of US 281, a great many of these are signed "Farm Road", including the one I live on. They are much more commonly known as FM roads by residents of Texas. Any thoughts? -- DavidBavousett 03:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
I suggest putting the Texas information at Farm to Market Road and general information (a road connecting a farm to a market etc) at farm to market road. -- SPUI ( talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 07:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Any one interested in joining me with setting up a Utah Highways Wikiproject? A dmrb♉ltz ( T | C | k) 20:15, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Utah State Highways has been created as a shell. A dmrb♉ltz ( T | I | E ) 04:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Anyone else interested in an Ohio roads wikiproject? Micheal 04:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I keep running into the ends of these state highways/routes/roads/whatever at Wikipedia:WikiProject Illinois State Routes :-). I'd start these projects, but I have very little to no knowledge of any highways in these states. Feel free to copy the Illinois WP structure and make it your own, though.
As an aside, I believe they are now Indiana State Roads, Wisconsin State Trunk Highways (which I shorten to Wisconsin State Highway), Iowa... something... and Illinois Routes. Oh goody. I just want more than just me to confirm the other states. — Rob ( talk) 12:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I have begun to work on the Wisconsin State Highway pages and support items as of yesterday - currently at Wis-17. -- master_son Lets talk 23:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Go ahead and start the projects if you want... I'll help if I can. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 23:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Wisconsin Highways has been built and is live - please help out where you can and sign up your name there w00t -- master_son Lets talk 01:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if this is widely known, but if you're developing infobox code, there's now something you can use for that kilometers field. Here's what I did for the Illinois state routes:
| {{{length_mi}}} miles ({{ #expr: {{{length_mi}}} * 1.609344 round 2 }} km)
#expr: allows you to calculate numbers on the fly. It's rounded off to hundreths of a kilometer because that's the most precise field that Illinois can give us on GIS data, even if I still do most of my calculations using whole numbers on an atlas. — Rob ( talk) 17:09, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Anyone possibly interested in helping out with a Georgia WikiProject? A fair number of pages have already been started, but a lot of them could use some fleshing out and there are still plenty that haven't been covered yet. What with the end of my semester approaching, I should soon find myself with a lot of time on my hands to get this thing going... – Pedriana 17:48, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
This topic just came up on the roadgeek list, and I don't necessarily have the time to track down all of the information on the FHWA page. Can someone expand Clearview (typeface) further? Thanks. Clearview is a proposed, recently approved new font for road signs in the U.S. — Rob ( talk) 17:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
We should list Interstate 5...980.svg shields for deletion. They've been supplanted by I-5..980.svg... right? At the very least, bot should rename all Interstate 5..980.svg shields to I-5..980.svg shields, in spite of thumbnail problems. — Rob ( talk) 16:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
For interested parties and courtesy of the roadgeek list, the Illinois Tollway has put up a survey for what sorts of signs would work best on their toll plazas. The link is here.
The tollway currently uses black text on white signs for overhead gantries related to toll plazas. They replaced black text on yellow signs, which, as warning signs, worked... but I don't know of any white signs like that anywhere else (haven't thought very hard). — Rob ( talk) 02:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I have been working on articles for Nevada state routes, such as creating stubs and adding infoboxes to existing articles. However, I recently noticed that a few existing articles were copyvios. The source for the articles I'm working on is NevadaDOT which is public domain, but the copyvio articles originally came from AARoads.com, word for word, submitted by an anonymous editor. If anyone could help me with these Nevada highway articles, that would be great. (I thank
User:Vegaswikian for his efforts.) I also wish to create the
Interstate 80 in Nevada article (it's currently a redirect to
Interstate 80 for now.) --
Geopgeop
03:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I think I messed up on Nevada State Route 171 and its related pages specific to it, please help... -- Geopgeop 09:18, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Also, can anyone please create the Nevada state route shields? Probably in the form Image:Nevada X.svg ? It doesn't have to be now, due to that SVG bug, but I'd appreciate it if it's created sometime in the near future. Thanks. -- Geopgeop 22:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm near a third done with creating stubs for the highways in Nevada. Does anybody want to evaluate the progress so far? -- Geopgeop 20:23, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I will make maps on request, if you can point me to a source that shows exactly where the routes run (or I know of one). -- SPUI ( T - C) 22:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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Might as well advertise this here - I'm proposing to move the disambiguation paces like Route 1 to list of highways numbered 1. -- SPUI ( T - C) 18:12, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, considering that Tennessee, the state with some of the nation's best maintained and highest quality roads, or so I'm told, has no official State Route Wikiproject, I would like to try and start one. I know there is a basic framework already established, but any advice, or resources, or just generalinput would definitely be appreciated. Thanks. -- Antjon1 05:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Is it standard practice to include a browse box in the routebox (see U.S. Route 8)? Wisconsin was already in there, and while I was working on M-8 I added that. In addition to that browse box, on many articles, individual state related highway browse boxes are near the bottom of the article on where that particular article's highway fits in with the states local system.
So I guess my questions are:
I'd like some discussion on this, and if it's been discussed before, I apologize, but link me to it. My main concern is routebox becoming too long, especially for the coast-coast U.S. Routes. Also, as on U.S. Route 8 while WI has a US Route browse in the routebox, it has an exact duplicate in the browse at the bottom of the page; which I expect was intended to be where US 8 fits in with the Wisconisin highway system. Stratosphere ( talk - Contrib) 02:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Whoa there... let me give the history of the browse box first. It started at WP:CASH when we had it in the routebox browsing CA State Routes. Then it moved to WA and other states. When we started the Interstate and US Route projects we didn't want to mess up CA's and WA's system, so we put a CA browse and WA browse in the routebox. But then we had a Mediation Cabal case where SPUI disagreed with this practice. Thus the browses for interstates and USRs got moved to the bottom (or were supposed to. after the arbcom case came I ran out of time). Then SPUI began placing some back in the routebox again for Interstates and U.S. Routes. So now there is no officially established standard, with OK using the bottom, CA trying to convert to the bottom, but it not taking effect, WA using the routebox... -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 16:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Thought I'd point it out... The browse boxes cover all routes within the state (Interstate, U.S. and State routes inclusive) there's no real way of putting a list of routes on the page like we do with the interstates and the US Routes because then the Interstate and US Route articles will get pretty cluddered with all of the boxes on them. This saves room, and permits browsing through the list of routes by state. Quite true we don't have a standard and should agree on one - but we should follow this slowly. There is also talk of making route articles for each Interstate and US route within a state. such as U.S._Route_10_in_Wisconsin. while it allows for details by state - all these articles can become cumbersume and overloading. There are many pros and cons out there. -- master_son Lets talk 20:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Returning to the point of this section, the standardizing of browsing numbered routes, after looking around, it appears that a standard is taking place. See U.S. Route 9 and U.S. Route 9E for examples of inter- and intra-state U.S. route browsing. From the way it is being implemented on both U.S. routes and Interstates, here's the standard as it is used in practice:
-- TMF T - C 12:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Wished I'd gotten in this discussion. Oh well. The way Illinois is, is the following:
Okay, I gave the website 3 months to be relevant. Time's up. I need all mentions of Illinois Highways to leave. Most of it is obvious, or has been mentioned in other, better places. The images look like they were taken straight from here or possibly the commons themselves (which isn't in itself bad, but it's acting as a mirror of other sources). It's not a good external link. It's not a good source.
Is there a bot out there that can do this for me? — Rob ( talk) 21:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Any Rhode Geeks (heh) or CT roadgeeks want to help me start up WikiProjects for their respective states? I'm already working on Massachusetts, since I live there, but being that states are so small up in these parts, I'll help out with CT and RI as well (also NH, since I love NH, but they already have WP:NHSH).
Connecticut seems to need a lot of attention, especially considering there are almost no SVGs for their state highway signs. They use a rectangle, like Massachusetts and Maine, but it has a thicker border, e.g.
for Massachusetts vs.
for Connecticut. I've seen a few old-school CT-15 shields (with the state outline) on the
Merritt Parkway, but I believe those are being phased out (personally, I love it when a state uses its outline on state highway shields, so I'm a bit saddened by this).
SPUI seems to want a CT DOT standard drawing for making the route shield. I can't seem to find one, and I'm not quite sure why it's necessary, but I suppose it's better to go official as far as that's concerned.
Rhode Island seems to have all their SVGs up, and they appear to be using a standard info box (scratch that, an info box is needed on
Route 146 (Rhode Island) which is a major thoroughfare between Providence and Worcester, for example). They also seem to be using a format that's similar to that used on the Massachusetts project, see
Route 51 (Rhode Island) for an example.
Tckma 16:55, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
None of these items deserves their own section, but as a whole if you have some input, I'd be glad to hear it.
Thanks. — Rob ( talk) 20:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
That's a good question. Let me peek at a sign tomorrow and find out. I thought it was "DU PAGE" in spite of the fact that it's officially DuPage County, Illinois. — Rob ( talk) 00:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Can someone fill in Connecticut in this graphic? We've started WP:CTRT for it.
Should we sign up for User:Werdnabot for all the state hwy WP talk pages? And say archive all stuff older than 60 days? -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 23:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know what the technical term for this part of the page is, but I could use some suggestions on Template:Chicagoland expressways. It generally goes on the bottom of all of the articles contained within the template. Thanks in advance! — Rob ( talk) 19:48, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Trains/Maps_task_force.
Seeing as I doubt User:Stratosphere will be doing maps for all kinds of routes for all 50 states and the District of Columbia, this may not be a bad thing to create. That way if ever concerns about maps or adjustments need to be made, they can all be located there. — Rob ( talk) 19:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Rather than necessarily having 50 descendant wikiprojects (or more, if we end up with Wikiprojects for non-"state highways" in some states, as already is the case for CA), have you considered a similar structure to that used by WP:MILHIST, i.e. a single wikiproject, with a locally hierarchical organisation? Just a thought. Alai 23:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Since the Massachusetts Turnpike article is not under the jurisdiction of WP:MASH, I figured I'd comment here as well. On the talk page, I suggested some sections to be added to the article. I can take care of one of them after this weekend, I think. -- Tckma 18:38, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
For those who haven't noticed, a list of redirect lists has been set up at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Redirects. I tried to point the links at the existing redirect completion lists for each project, but if your project has one and I missed it, fix it up. — Scott5114 ↗ 18:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I'd have thought a "state highway" was something that had "State Highway Farble" or "Route Hoohah" as/in its name, but I may be sadly misinformed here. For example, this edit confuses me: interstate highways are state highways? And what about Texas Farm Roads, are they "Texas state highways"? Alai 00:33, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Just in case you miss it, Interstate 10 in Texas is on the main page under the "Did You Know?" section for new articles. Hopefully this will get things going in a post-naming controversy WikiProject. -- Holderca1 19:49, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Just a heads-up... Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Minnesota State Highway 91. Kirjtc2 21:53, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I found the RI State Route Sign Specs. See Talk:Numbered_routes_in_Rhode_Island#State_Sign_Specs. -- xxpor ( Talk | Contribs ) 02:10, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I created a SVG for the Minnesota State Route Marker. The colors should be right, an also the aspect ratios. Since I'm not from the U.S. I'm not too keen on making a SVG for every PNG Image out there ... but, if anyone neads help, drop me a line @ de:Benutzer:Ucc.
In the commons I added a new category (
commons:Category:Minnesota_State_Route_markers) an I allready created a marker for Route 62:
-- 217.224.143.117 19:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Why not have a project for roads outside the continious 48 states? Since Hawaii, Alaska, and all those other territories/islands/commonwealths/whatevers don't (in my opinion) have enough roads in themselves to really justify there own projects, then why not have one for all of them?
This may be nothing more than a passing thought, but should there be a WikiProject that manages all of the former New England Interstate Routes? Since the articles on these transcend state lines, no one state WikiProject is truly able to regulate these articles, resulting in the wide variation that currently exists from one article to the next. Thoughts? -- TMF T - C 00:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Should we create another subproject (like Maps and Assessment) for Shields? -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 03:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
These websites would provide a good start for making sheilds:
If you use any of these sites, it might be a good courtesy to contact the creators of the site to see about using their work. Their level of roadgeekdom MAY interest them in becoming involved in this project anyways, and we may be creating new wikipedians. -- Jayron32 03:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Geopgeop here. I just took somewhat of a wikibreak in doing the Nevada shields on Commons: my laptop where I keep the template images is down; I finally extracted them from its hard drive just recently. Anyways, reading the uploading procedure for Commons, and not having been on there in a while, it seems they want permissions requests done in email and forwarded to Wikimedia, when what I did was talk over the phone with an employee of NevadaDOT. I'd like these permissions reaffirmed (I got the design from NevadaDOT directly by email). Can someone please do this for me? I'll give the email address of the NevadaDOT contact, just tell them Geopgeop asked. -- Geopgeop 11:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm openly calling out for a WikiProject for South Carolina State Highways. Who wants to start one? You'd better not ask me, because I don't know enough about them, but I'm willing to contribute anyway. DanTD 20:05, 19 October 2006 (EST)
Okay, so it's pretty much safe to say that we've made it through the WP:SRNC mess somewhat intact. Unfortunately, we have lost users. Which was probably inevitable as there would have been some who would have left no matter which way the poll went. But anyway... the problems this bring are a) of course they're part of our team and we'll miss them and b) there is now a vacuum as they performed jobs that now are going undone.
So I'm suggesting a) being nice to these users if they return, b) us stepping up to perform the tasks that they did and c) recruit new users. By using stuff like {{ welcomeroad}} to make new contributors feel included and connected. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 03:39, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
The numbered highway list articles have two articles : List of highways numbered 155 and Route 155, and it is like that for many of them, should there be two? and if not, maybe one should be redirected to the other. I address this here for you guys work on the highways in the US and are more aware of what to do about that. Lincher 21:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, just merge them. However, there's another problem that I've been meaning to bring up: miscellaneous people have been adding shield images to the lists, usually going through and adding shields for their state to all the pages. Should we go and put shields next to each highway in the list? I don't think it's necessary and it seems cluttered. Would like others' opinions on this. — Scott5114 ↗ 21:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
If anybody has any free time on their hands... I'm tied up with all my tasks plus having to assume other ones that departed users did... and meanwhile we keep losing templates to TFD like {{ 3di 16}}... could someone be monitoring those venues? I usually do that but I just don't have the time anymore. I have 2000 edits on my to do list... -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 06:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Is there a quick and easy way to put a large number of articles on your watch list? Since an article has to be tagged before it is deleted, someone would notice it sooner, I check my watchlist regularly. -- Holderca1 19:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
We need to create a tutorial page on how to write and edit highway articles. We have way too many new users messing up pages and not following WP:MOS or this project and subprojects. This is taking too much time away from stuff that needs to get done (like moving those pages).
Also, could someone review the edits of User:Odyssey19? They have made hundreds of edits that have deleted the prose of the Nevada State Route articles. However, you can't rollback, as they did add an infobox too. I would do it but I have a to-do list of at least 5000 or so edits... -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 21:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
At the bottom of U.S. Route 6's article page, there is a browse box. Nevada's part of the browse box is off, as it uses srbox instead of {{ nv browse}}. {{ nv browse}} exists, but is not yet set up like the other states, like {{ ca browse}} or {{ co browse}}. Please check and fix for consistency. -- Geopgeop 23:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Do we feel that Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-14 U.S. Roads naming fallout is necessary? Is there enough goodwill? -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 23:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Recent changes in the way the assessment log table is constructed has expanded the template itself and has made pages where the template is transcluded a mess. Would anyone object to the removal of the assessment table from the sidebar template? -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 20:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
For teh California and Nevada browse boxes, the type I've used is "State Route" versus simply "State". Using "State Route" and not automatically having Route appended to the link is helpful because then we don't get "Interstate Route". I'm planning on fixing all of the other ones unless someone objects (and yes, that means fixing each and every single article too...) but it makes for much neater coding.
I'll be making some changes to Infobox road and the browse box coding as it's currently a mess right now. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 02:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
For PA articles (no weird links): |
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Template:Infobox road/PA/link PA is called upon if type=PA is specified. The resulting link is Pennsylvania Route "num". |
Template:Infobox road/PA/link Interstate is called upon if type=Interstate is specified. The resulting link is Interstate "num" (Pennsylvania). |
Out of curiosity, why are you having California's browse display as "Route" instead of "SR/US/I-" like most states?
Also, to TwinsMetsFan -- I believe most states use "U.S." rather than "US" for type. -- NORTH talk 23:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Especially in the case of Wisconsin, there seem to be many articles about highways that pass through a state seperate from the main article, such as U.S. Route 10 in Wisconsin. Should these not be merged into the main article about that highway?( U.S. Route 10) This seems very redundant and it would make more sense to put all that info in the main article. Discuss? Dskluz 05:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Just to give two examples, Iowa Highway 92 has 1 going across the bottom, which is listed when you edit it as RouteboxIA and Iowa Highway 175 has one in the upper right which is listed as Infobox road. Which one is proper? DandyDan2007 13:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
It doesn't appear a project for Nebraska is happening. I'd be interested in doing it, but it just looks so huge. I only ask about Nebraska because I live there. I could also do some for other nearby states as well. DandyDan2007 13:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
So now that most of the highway projects use some form of {{ infobox road}} (whether called directly or using a template like {{ infobox WA State Route}}), does it truly matter specifically which template is used?
For example, Interstate 195 (New Jersey) is an interstate highway wholly within New Jersey. Does it have to use {{ infobox Interstate}}, or is it okay to use {{ infobox road}} with state=NJ. The only loss of information using infobox_road is the line saying "Auxiliary route...", whereas using the interstate infobox either forces the browsing to the bottom of the article in an srbox, or removes the State highways in New Jersey link from the infobox, replacing it with an out-of-place postal abbreviation.
The "Auxiliary route" line can be added manually using {{ infobox road}}, so there really is no loss of information necessary -- whereas {{ infobox Interstate}} can't be modified to use state highway browsing ideally (with the clear header link). -- NORTH talk 09:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
West Boulevard | |
Route information | |
Length | 2 mi (3.2 km) |
Major junctions | |
North end |
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South end |
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Location | |
Country | United States |
State | South Dakota |
Highway system | |
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I got this to work; any comments? V60 22:20, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
{{Infobox Interstate |article_route=476 |type=Auxiliary |map= |length_mi=130.5 |length_round=2 |length_ref= |length_notes= |year_established=1974 |city= |direction_a=North |terminus_a=[[Image:I-81.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 81|I-81]] near [[Clarks Summit, Pennsylvania|Clarks Summit]] |junction=[[Image:I-80.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 80|I-80]] near [[Hickory Run State Park]]<br>[[Image:US 209.svg|25px]] [[U.S. Route 209|US 209]] near [[Lehighton, Pennsylvania|Lehighton]]<br>[[Image:I-78.svg|20px]] [[Image:US 22.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 78|I-78]] [[U.S. Route 22|US 22]] near [[Allentown, Pennsylvania|Allentown]]<br>[[Image:I-276.svg|25px]] [[Image:Pennsylvania Turnpike logo.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 276|I-276]]/[[Pennsylvania Turnpike]] at the [[Mid-County Interchange]]<br>[[Image:I-76.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 76 (east)|I-76]] near [[Conshohocken, Pennsylvania|Conshohocken]]<br>[[Image:US 30.svg|20px]] [[U.S. Route 30|US 30]] near [[Radnor, Pennsylvania|Radnor]]<br>[[Image:US 1.svg|20px]] [[U.S. Route 1|US 1]] near [[Springfield, Pennsylvania|Springfield]] |direction_b=South |terminus_b=[[Image:I-95.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 95|I-95]] near [[Chester, Pennsylvania|Chester]] |browse={{Infobox road/PA main}} {{pa browse|previous_type=PA|previous_route=475|next_type=PA|next_route=477}} {{pa browse|previous_type=PA|previous_route=8|route=[[Image:PA-9.svg|20px]]|next_type=PA|next_route=10}} {{pa browse|previous_type=Interstate|previous_route=479|route=[[Image:I-480.svg|25px]]|next_type=PA|next_route=481}} {{Infobox road/PA links}} |shield_ext= }}
I went and checked the Interstate 195 (New Jersey) article, and I found something that isn't right. The I-195 shield is way too small and should follow the size set in {{ Infobox Interstate}}. Comments before using {{ Infobox Interstate}} but still retaining NJ Route links? V60 22:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree with TMF... for example on Interstate 99 the main template should not be transcluded. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 01:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
On my personal sandbox tailored for template construction, I am currently in the process of creating a new sub-template of {{ Infobox Interstate}} with some attributes tailored for Intrastate Interstates. Right now, it is an absolute disaster with the sample infobox, but should not look like that once I (or somebody else) gets the juices flowing. Comments are appreciated in this section. V60 02:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that half of the posts I see on route article talk pages are along the lines of "How long does it take to get from A to B" or "Really? I thought that it was the other way around..." Frankly it's starting to get annoying. There's a reference desk for that sort of thing. But what do we do about it though? We can't slap a tag on all the pages and say "This is for discussing the article not the road..." -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 07:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I've created Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Subprojects. I could use help in perfecting the new project mechanism though... (To test it choose a state that has no project and create it. Then tag it for speedy when you're done.) -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 21:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I've created it at WP:USRD/P to hold a list of old debates for future reference. -- Rschen7754 ( talk - contribs) 01:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I have been working on creating articles for Alabama highways as of late and decided to start a WikiProject. I am very new to this and simply used another state as a template but would love to make this the definitive source for Alabama highways on the net. Love to see contributions from all those interested in the byways of the Heart of Dixie!
Here it is: Wikipedia:WikiProject Alabama Highways - Patriarca12 16:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Should you go west-to-east or east-to-west? South-to-north or north-to-south? I would assume you begin at the west and the south, but I see some written the other way. DandyDan2007 13:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I just created a template to help ease the creation of exit and junction lists, as of right now it is specific for Texas highways, but I can always change it to make it more general if there is interest in it. There is one item that I need to work on is the image size for 3di routes, but I will get to that soon enough. Comments are welcome. -- Holderca1 20:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I ran into a problem subst: this template, with all the embedded templates and #if functions, it creates a mess. -- Holderca1 23:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Maybe we could have just a national Template:Junction, with the type parameter being the postal abbrevation for the state for state highways (eg, for a New Mexico state highway, have the type be NM, for Oklahoma, OK)? Also, how about a space in between the shields? — Scott5114 ↗ 05:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Okay, working on making this work for every state, the biggest problem I am running into is that not every state is using infobox road, so when this template tries to pull from one of those templates, it gets an empty template. I created a few just for testing, but until all of those are created, this can't be used for every state. This version is still in my sandbox for now until I am sure all the kinks have been worked out. Here is a sample though (note this is not a real junction, just an example of the results it gives):
-- Holderca1 15:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
See Template talk:Infobox road#Recent changes in color/design. -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 22:51, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Just a heads-up: a proposal to merge Cedar Crest Boulevard, Lehigh Street, and Tilghman Street, three non-notable streets in the Allentown, Pennsylvania area, into a single Roads of Allentown, Pennsylvania article was offered on December 19 by myself, but removed only nine days later by an editor who appears to have an Allentown bias. Opinions on the merge proposal (which I believe is still active despite the lack of tags) is appreciated at Talk:Roads of Allentown, Pennsylvania. Thanks. -- TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 04:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)