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If I decide to take on a task from the list of tasks, should I remove the task from the list? Azamiryou 20:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Feel free to watch/add to/handle the requests listed at Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Japan#Train related. I've pointed to List of Railway Stations in Japan there as well, since there are a bazillion redlinked rail articles there. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 23:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
The article is currently located at Tojo Main Line. All the other private railway lines (at least in the Tokyo area) append the company name in front. This is true even for other Tobu lines, i.e. the Tobu Noda Line and Tobu Ogose Line. For consistency, shouldn't the Tojo Line be moved to Tobu Tojo Main Line or Tobu Tojo Line for consistency? (Note: also true for Tobu Koizumi Line.) -- Polaron | Talk 05:56, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
On a related note, the article Tōkyū Den-en-toshi Line uses macrons. None of the other Tokyu lines do. In fact, no other private rail line article name currently does. -- Polaron | Talk 06:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Discriminating non-JR lines from JR lines in the article titling rule will be inconvinient for users without much knowledge in Japanese railways. If the company could have named so, it should have include the company name because it is "official". But I strongly recommend aliasing without the company name. For fairness, I am a creator of some articles without company names. Soredewa 07:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I know the Japanese version of Wikipedia does it, however looking at the page on Shinagawa Station, I was thinking, is it really neccessary to list every single bus stop that stops at the station? I think station articles are about the station themselves (plus more or less the area it services, or immediate area) and the rail services provided to/from the station. I'm not just not sure if its really neccessary to list every bus stop at the station, rather than say, somthing like "outside the station taxi and bus stops can be found" or somthing to that effect. Not sure what everyone's opinion on this may be. Limitedexpresstrain 09:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
What about using ja:画像:Kippu.PNG in Template:Japan-rail-stub (see the Japanese version of this stub here). Thoughts? ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 00:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I nominated several railway line categories for deletion. Please see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 September 22#Japan railway line categories for the discussion, and add your comments. Since these categories can only be an abbreviated version of the information in the the line articles themselves, the categories seem useless (but, that is just my opinion). Neier 21:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Please see Category talk:Railway stations in Japan for a proposal to rename the train station categories by appending " Prefecture" to the end of most of the subcats. Neier 00:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Subcategories in Railway lines of Japan category is not needed, who creates these subcategories is out of rule, isn't he? If he intends on creating these, he should create ones for all the lines in Japan. If you all think it is unnecessary, can you nominate those for deletion? -- Izumi5 14:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed that the Japanese railroad pages offer a template to present rail vehicle information in a standardized format. Do we have such a template? Should we have one? The template is called {{鉄道車両}} and you can see it in use on the M250 Japanese page. Azamiryou 15:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Since we currently have at least two ways of sorting stations (geographically, and by line), I think we should split the Category:Railway stations in Japan into two separate branches: one for the location, and one for the line. For lack of being able to think of anything better or more creative, I propose Category:Railway stations in Japan by prefecture and Category:Railway stations in Japan by line as the two sub-category names. If anyone has a better suggested name, fire away. Neier 00:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I have 2 questions (I'm sorry it's tricky, so read carefully, please) ...
Railway station names and railway line names as a whole are not company names. But if they include company names, do they count as company names or not? Based on WP:MOS-JA, we don't use macrons in company names.-- Endroit 05:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I still need to finish up the main line article, and the Hiroshima Station article, but it's done other than those two things. (^_^) ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 00:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 15:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I've left a comment at Talk:Namba Station because I'm confused as to why the articles are divided into three rather than four (JR, Kintestu, Osaka subway, Nankai). I haven't gotten any comments for quite a while so I'll divide the articles myself if I don't hear anything. Please leave comments on the Namba talk page if you have any input. Thanks-- Dekimasu 02:14, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Fare tables sometimes list two distances between stations: 営業キロ and 換算キロ. I think that the first (Eigyō km) is the actual distance, while the second is only used for fare calculations. My opinion is that we should not care so much about fare info, but, the physical distance when we list information about the stations in each line. I did a quick check, using www.gmap-pedometer.com between Wakuya Station and Maeyachi Station in northern Miyagi (nice straight segments; and, nearly 10% difference in the two distances), and it affirms that Eigyō is the more accurate measure. Should we put something in the style section about this? Or, if I am wrong, and we should use Kansan km instead, then that should be in the style section? Or, maybe it doesn't matter? Neier 00:49, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid to sub-categorizing as wrong way. My idea is like this:
I speak poor at English, so please correct grammarical mistakes in the titles of the categories, or anything else. 61.112.76.25 21:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
With all of that in mind, here is another suggestion:
and, optionally
This would end up with most stations being in 2+(Number of lines) categories (company, prefecture, and line, line, line, cats). That doesn't seem too bad for the articles, but it may involve a lot of legwork, especially to get some of the existing categories refocussed. Thoughts? Neier 13:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I've been adding many articles from September, but none of them were shown in the "New Articles". What on earth is that? -- Izumi5 08:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey, how about add Hide/Show function? It already used on Japanese one, and I think it saves the space of the article. -- Izumi5 10:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Anyone having an opinion on articles about rail stations will be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yeouinaru Station. Fg2 02:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I live in Osaka and I'm going to be visiting Tokyo next weekend. I'm leaving Japan on the 21st of December, so make the requests quick. I won't be here much longer! -- Brad Beattie (talk) 08:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I've created {{ ReqphotoinJapan}} to allow easy sorting of requested photos by prefecture. This can be used for train stations, too, so feel free to tag stations without any photos. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 05:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The template looks very unsystematic and it is sure that terminal station of Yamanote line is Shinagawa station. -- Izumi5 05:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
The official website and other literature I have seen published now seems to refer to the museum as "The Railway Museum" rather than the odd-sounding "Museum of Railway". DAJF 12:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello all. I've just created my first trains-related article, translated from the Japanese wikipedia article ( ja:国鉄7100形蒸気機関車). I came across it through a link from things named after Shizuka Gozen... I'm happy to contribute to trains articles, particularly Meiji-era trains, which seem to not be covered quite as well as the modern stuff, but I'm afraid I don't know much about trains (and my Japanese isn't the greatest, either), so I would appreciate it if someone could look over my article, both for errors (particularly in the technical stuff) and for style and standard formatting. Thank you. LordAmeth 21:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 |
If I decide to take on a task from the list of tasks, should I remove the task from the list? Azamiryou 20:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Feel free to watch/add to/handle the requests listed at Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Japan#Train related. I've pointed to List of Railway Stations in Japan there as well, since there are a bazillion redlinked rail articles there. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 23:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
The article is currently located at Tojo Main Line. All the other private railway lines (at least in the Tokyo area) append the company name in front. This is true even for other Tobu lines, i.e. the Tobu Noda Line and Tobu Ogose Line. For consistency, shouldn't the Tojo Line be moved to Tobu Tojo Main Line or Tobu Tojo Line for consistency? (Note: also true for Tobu Koizumi Line.) -- Polaron | Talk 05:56, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
On a related note, the article Tōkyū Den-en-toshi Line uses macrons. None of the other Tokyu lines do. In fact, no other private rail line article name currently does. -- Polaron | Talk 06:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Discriminating non-JR lines from JR lines in the article titling rule will be inconvinient for users without much knowledge in Japanese railways. If the company could have named so, it should have include the company name because it is "official". But I strongly recommend aliasing without the company name. For fairness, I am a creator of some articles without company names. Soredewa 07:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I know the Japanese version of Wikipedia does it, however looking at the page on Shinagawa Station, I was thinking, is it really neccessary to list every single bus stop that stops at the station? I think station articles are about the station themselves (plus more or less the area it services, or immediate area) and the rail services provided to/from the station. I'm not just not sure if its really neccessary to list every bus stop at the station, rather than say, somthing like "outside the station taxi and bus stops can be found" or somthing to that effect. Not sure what everyone's opinion on this may be. Limitedexpresstrain 09:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
What about using ja:画像:Kippu.PNG in Template:Japan-rail-stub (see the Japanese version of this stub here). Thoughts? ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 00:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I nominated several railway line categories for deletion. Please see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 September 22#Japan railway line categories for the discussion, and add your comments. Since these categories can only be an abbreviated version of the information in the the line articles themselves, the categories seem useless (but, that is just my opinion). Neier 21:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Please see Category talk:Railway stations in Japan for a proposal to rename the train station categories by appending " Prefecture" to the end of most of the subcats. Neier 00:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Subcategories in Railway lines of Japan category is not needed, who creates these subcategories is out of rule, isn't he? If he intends on creating these, he should create ones for all the lines in Japan. If you all think it is unnecessary, can you nominate those for deletion? -- Izumi5 14:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed that the Japanese railroad pages offer a template to present rail vehicle information in a standardized format. Do we have such a template? Should we have one? The template is called {{鉄道車両}} and you can see it in use on the M250 Japanese page. Azamiryou 15:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Since we currently have at least two ways of sorting stations (geographically, and by line), I think we should split the Category:Railway stations in Japan into two separate branches: one for the location, and one for the line. For lack of being able to think of anything better or more creative, I propose Category:Railway stations in Japan by prefecture and Category:Railway stations in Japan by line as the two sub-category names. If anyone has a better suggested name, fire away. Neier 00:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I have 2 questions (I'm sorry it's tricky, so read carefully, please) ...
Railway station names and railway line names as a whole are not company names. But if they include company names, do they count as company names or not? Based on WP:MOS-JA, we don't use macrons in company names.-- Endroit 05:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I still need to finish up the main line article, and the Hiroshima Station article, but it's done other than those two things. (^_^) ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 00:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 15:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I've left a comment at Talk:Namba Station because I'm confused as to why the articles are divided into three rather than four (JR, Kintestu, Osaka subway, Nankai). I haven't gotten any comments for quite a while so I'll divide the articles myself if I don't hear anything. Please leave comments on the Namba talk page if you have any input. Thanks-- Dekimasu 02:14, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Fare tables sometimes list two distances between stations: 営業キロ and 換算キロ. I think that the first (Eigyō km) is the actual distance, while the second is only used for fare calculations. My opinion is that we should not care so much about fare info, but, the physical distance when we list information about the stations in each line. I did a quick check, using www.gmap-pedometer.com between Wakuya Station and Maeyachi Station in northern Miyagi (nice straight segments; and, nearly 10% difference in the two distances), and it affirms that Eigyō is the more accurate measure. Should we put something in the style section about this? Or, if I am wrong, and we should use Kansan km instead, then that should be in the style section? Or, maybe it doesn't matter? Neier 00:49, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid to sub-categorizing as wrong way. My idea is like this:
I speak poor at English, so please correct grammarical mistakes in the titles of the categories, or anything else. 61.112.76.25 21:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
With all of that in mind, here is another suggestion:
and, optionally
This would end up with most stations being in 2+(Number of lines) categories (company, prefecture, and line, line, line, cats). That doesn't seem too bad for the articles, but it may involve a lot of legwork, especially to get some of the existing categories refocussed. Thoughts? Neier 13:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
I've been adding many articles from September, but none of them were shown in the "New Articles". What on earth is that? -- Izumi5 08:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey, how about add Hide/Show function? It already used on Japanese one, and I think it saves the space of the article. -- Izumi5 10:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Anyone having an opinion on articles about rail stations will be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yeouinaru Station. Fg2 02:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I live in Osaka and I'm going to be visiting Tokyo next weekend. I'm leaving Japan on the 21st of December, so make the requests quick. I won't be here much longer! -- Brad Beattie (talk) 08:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I've created {{ ReqphotoinJapan}} to allow easy sorting of requested photos by prefecture. This can be used for train stations, too, so feel free to tag stations without any photos. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 05:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
The template looks very unsystematic and it is sure that terminal station of Yamanote line is Shinagawa station. -- Izumi5 05:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
The official website and other literature I have seen published now seems to refer to the museum as "The Railway Museum" rather than the odd-sounding "Museum of Railway". DAJF 12:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello all. I've just created my first trains-related article, translated from the Japanese wikipedia article ( ja:国鉄7100形蒸気機関車). I came across it through a link from things named after Shizuka Gozen... I'm happy to contribute to trains articles, particularly Meiji-era trains, which seem to not be covered quite as well as the modern stuff, but I'm afraid I don't know much about trains (and my Japanese isn't the greatest, either), so I would appreciate it if someone could look over my article, both for errors (particularly in the technical stuff) and for style and standard formatting. Thank you. LordAmeth 21:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)