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Could you please tell me what the word leer means in the above Line guide? Is it a proper part of the Line guide or is it Vandalism? Kathleen.wright5 24:30, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I was just wondering if our project should have its own banner. See WT:Rail#Banner. Simply south ( talk) 19:14, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Right now, all Harlem Line (Metro-North) and New Jersey Transit station articles are losing their colors. Why is this happening, and can somebody fixt them? ---- DanTD ( talk) 18:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
(Outdent) The problem is Middleborough/Lakeville. It's so long, without breaking, that it forces abnormal width in the next station cell. The solution is to surround the '/' with spaces in Template:MBTA stations, which I've done now. Things should look better. Mackensen (talk) 15:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I suppose this has been discussed before but with the articles List of pre-1950 rail accidents and List of 1950-1999 rail accidents, shouldn't List of rail accidents follow suit sort of with a name like List of rail accidents 2000-present? Simply south ( talk) 19:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
WP:MONORAILS could use a lot of help attracting members and editing articles in it's scope (seeing as there are only two members). If anyone is interested, please sign up! Basketball110 My story/ Tell me yours 01:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
A little history: I started the monorails task force in February of 2007. After several months, it attracted no members at all, so I had it deleted. Then, this March, Basketball110 convinced me to try again, and so far, after 2 months, still nothing, really. If this little discussion continues to bring no one, I think it should be folded again until monorails really get popular.-- MrFish Go Fish 23:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey folks, I'm putting together an article on the apparently dead proposal for a Fort Worth/Dalls—Denver train variously called the Caprock Chief or Caprock Express. Any expert assistance (like why it suddenly dropped off the face of the earth) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 11:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
On Thursday, May 15, this will be Today's Featured Article on Wikipedia's Main Page. Because of the huge amount of anon IP vandalism TFAs attract (averaging 100+ for the day), anyone who can help keep an eye on this article and revert vandalism is requested. JGHowes talk - 00:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I have noticed a slight problem with the {{ Infobox nrhp}} combo infoboxes. When the NRHP infobox is added to the main infobox, it causes a few things to be excluded. One of which is the services. The services info is usually found on the bottom of most infoboxes however on some articles, this is still found in it's own box on the bottom of the page. If you try moving it to an infobox with NRHP info added to it, nothing will happen. If you try adding a style to the infobox, it will also be excluded. An example is found on the Selma-Smithfield (Amtrak station) article. Does anybody have any ideas on how to fix this infobox glitch? Murjax ( talk) 00:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I may very well be missing something obvious or have bad search skills, but is there any general guideline on what makes a class of locomotive, an engineer or a particular locomotive notable? I'm not sure when it's appropriate to start a new article. -- Tombomp ( talk) 19:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I finally managed to scrape some time together this week to start on updates to the {{ TrainsWikiProject}} template. The bugs noted on the template's talk page are getting addressed, but more importantly, I'm working on collapsible sections for associated projects/task forces as well as for tasks that need to be done. The idea behind the collapsible sections is to keep the banner from taking up too much space when there are multiple associated projects/forces/tasks on a page; I used {{ WikiProject China}} and {{ WP Australia}} as models for this. The needed tasks section is not yet implemented in the test database, but I'm planning for it to work similar to the associated project/force section (you can use the UK parameters to try this out). My work in progress (which doesn't have all of the associated project/force parameters and almost none of the required task parameters yet) is at User:Slambo/TWP test 1. Praise/gripes/comments? AdThanksVance. Slambo (Speak) 14:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I finally submitted a suggestion for a proposed Chicago Area Public Transportation WikiProject to the project council. Discuss the issue on this page. ---- DanTD ( talk) 23:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi there,
I made a new page for GrandLuxe Rail Journeys, a train which used to be American Orient Express. I'm not advertising them and if you read the copy, it is certainly objective - neither flattering nor flaming. It's a real train with strong history and I'm surprised there isn't already a page for it.
I was told it was being deleted for the very strange reason that it was a redirect for an implausable type. (Hu???)
Per suggestion by RHaworth (below)I am asking someone on this project to move it to GrandLuxe Rail Journeys.
-- User3232 ( talk) 16:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Since you have no contributions history, there is an inevitable suspicion that you are advertising GrandLuxe Rail. But reading your article, I have to admit that it is not seriously spammy. What I suggest you do is:
That will give it a far greater chance of surviving. (And if no-one is willing to move it, we will know it is spam!) -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 20:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Article has been AfD'd. Mjroots ( talk) 04:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Tagged article List of MLW diesel locomotives for WikiProject Trains Sv1xv ( talk) 06:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I've tagged this as needing references improving. The UK list has been completely reworked, and the US one is about to be culled of unreferenced material. Therefore the NZ article should be treated in the same way. Time should be allowed for references to be provided, and unreference entries culled and archived after sufficient time has been given to provide references. Mjroots ( talk) 13:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
It's been a while since I mentioned this here, but at the NMRA national convention in Anaheim this coming July, I'll be presenting a clinic on the state of the Trains WikiProject since the last national convention last summer in Detroit (where I presented an introductory clinic on this WikiProject). In keeping with the wiki spirit, please take a moment to stop in at my clinic notes page and add anything that you think needs to be discussed in such a clinic.
I'm not currently planning to attend the convention next year in Connecticut (so if another editor wants to take on that clinic, I can forward any materials that are needed), but as a member of the Midwest Region's Board of Directors, I will be at the 2010 convention in Milwaukee, and I was already directly asked to present a few clinics there by the current Region president.
AdThanksVance. Slambo (Speak) 18:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
The name of this project is confusing since it obviously covers more than just the railed vehicles, which are a only small subset of railway systems, both economically and in terms of number of articles. It should correctly be named "Wikiproject Rail Transport", so that contributors who write articles on high speed rail lines, train companies, fare systems, train stations, etc. won't shy away from adding their articles here. -- Cambrasa confab 10:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I've just created an article for this company, which runs sleeper trains between Estonia and Russia. I'm quite a new member, and this is my biggest contribution so far, so if anyone wants to have a look and maybe improve it please do!!
Don't ask me why I chose this subject... I've been to Estonia last month and was browsing just now, bored on a quiet day at work, and this redlink grabbed me. Not in any way a train expert. I can't read Estonian either, so I'm sure someone that can would be able to add more, but I hope it's useful so far. I'm posting this to WP:Estonia too. — FIRE! in a crowded theatre... 16:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Rails with trails includes a map from a reliable source, showing 2 rails with trails in New Mexico. One is the Santa Fe Rail Trail along the Santa Fe Southern Railway, but I cannot identify the other. Based on the relative positions of the dots on that map, the mystery railroad is either somewhere east of Taos, or somewhere west of Albuquerque. Help? Please respond on Talk:Rails with trails. Thanks! -- Una Smith ( talk) 20:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Does anybody know where I can find a tag for articles that need infoboxes? Because I wanted to add one to Mt. Washington (Baltimore Light Rail station). ---- DanTD ( talk) 20:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Just a note about the ongoing discussion at Wikipedia:Notability (Places and transportation) which through the backdoor involves the notability of stations. Agathoclea ( talk) 08:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Wikipedia:Templates with red links/2008-Jan-Railroads should be associated with this project. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
The article Everard Calthrop was recently elevated to Good Article status. How can it be added to the list on this page? -- Michael Johnson ( talk) 22:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
The LIRR style tag for East Hampton (LIRR station) decided all of the sudden to relocate "East" over "Hampton" and folded up the blue underline that Long Island Rail Road stations have had for nearly half a century. ---- DanTD ( talk) 22:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
With all my talk of checking Metro-North stations, now I find the New Haven Line is facing the same problems. So are the Pascack Valley Line and Port Jervis Line. ---- DanTD ( talk) 22:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Agr brought up an interesting issue with the South Station infobox. It's too long. Now long infoboxes exist on many other articles including Pennsylvania Station (New York) and Union Station (Los Angeles). Infoboxes are an inportant part of railway station articles, but there should be an option available to collapse them. I haven't been able to figure out how to do it, so any help will be appreciated. Murjax ( talk) 18:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
There currently is a discussion underway on Talk:Railroad about whether the Railroad disambiguation page should be moved and redirected to a primary topic. It would be helpful to have more editors review the page and express their views. -- Russ (talk) 21:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
(unindent) I've just had a look at the edit history for railway, which is also a redirect to rail transport. Back in April it had exactly the same content that Railroad (disambiguation) now has, except that the latter uses 'railroad' for its headings. I am sure that railway/railroad were BOTH set as redirects to rail transport to avoid the UK/US terminology issues, and recreating DAB pages just re-introduces these issues -- there isn't a 'nice' way of integrating the two terms.
Is the new page really a disambiguation page? To me it looks like just a list of links, and rather incomplete, without any further explanation. Looking at the 'See also' section on Rail transport, it would be better to link to List of rail transport topics, within which there could be a new section listing the different types of railways (sorry, railroads). Then the hat note could be:
That list page needs further work, but is sorely underused at present.
EdJogg ( talk) 12:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Please join the discussion. Slambo (Speak) 13:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Another editor has proposed moving First Transcontinental Railroad to First United States trancontinental railroad. Please join the discussion. Slambo (Speak) 11:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
A relatively new editor has moved the article Passenger car to Passenger rail car and made the original location a disambiguation page. While I can understand the reasoning for such a move, it seems to me that a better destination for the article about railroad rolling stock would be Passenger car (rail) (such as we have for Coach (rail) and Stock car (rail)). Comments? Slambo (Speak) 11:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Another editor nominated Template:First Great Western color today as unused. I looked around, but didn't see any mention of this on the various s-rail and s-line template documentation pages. If this is still needed, please join the discussion. Slambo (Speak) 12:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
For those who don't monitor the assessment discussions, there is a proposal to modify the current article assessment scheme. The options currently being vetted for change are:
Other discussions elsewhere on that talk page include a proposal to rename GA class as B+ class. The discussion linked here will close on the evening of May 25/26. Slambo (Speak) 16:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
The two least disruptive options (no changes or add a new C class between start and B) have the most support. In the first case, we won't need to do anything, for the second, we add a category and take a second look at the articles already in start and B classes. Slambo (Speak) 13:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
The conclusions have been issued from the discussion referenced here. Right now, things stay the same, but there is growing consensus to add a C class article quality level. Slambo (Speak) 14:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Consensus has been reached and C-Class is to be added to the scheme. I've created the appropriate categories for this and most of the subprojects here, and I've added it to the rewritten banner template, but there's still more that needs to be added there before I move this updated banner live. There is still some discussion on what the criteria will be in the {{ grading scheme}} as well as how the class will be initially populated, including one proposal to automatically move B-Class articles that have maintenance templates to C-Class. Slambo (Speak) 19:09, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Cheakamus River derailment - there's been more than one derailment; this used to be 2005 Cheakamus River derailment; Already posted on WPCanada, but hoping someone here may know of the older derailments. Skookum1 ( talk) 16:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Currently, 2031 articles assigned to this project, or 10.5%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 18 June 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page. -- B. Wolterding ( talk) 12:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
If it's useful to anyone, I've created a template to simplify wikilinking of common
Whyte notations; for example {{
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0-4-2
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Okay, I think I've got everything in the rebuild of the {{ TrainsWikiProject}} banner. Please take a look at the new banner and let me know of anything that is missing. The biggest change is that the associated projects/task forces are now within a hide block and the pending tasks (unref, imageneeded, etc.) are in another hide block. I've also got it where if the associated project has a portal, that will be linked too. Unless there are any objections, I plan to slide this update live by this weekend. Slambo (Speak) 15:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way that the combined Railroad-NRHP infobox can be evened out? I thought removing the map would help, but it didn't. ---- DanTD ( talk) 03:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Another group of articles that have some problems are those for Baltimore Light Rail stations. The one at University of Baltimore/Mt. Royal (Baltimore Light Rail station) doesn't indicate that the next stop for the Penn Station – Camden Yards Line is the terminus of that line for some reason. While we're on the subject of light rail, looking at Steel Plaza (PAT station), I've noticed a redlink for Penn Park, and the 42 South Hills Village article indicating that Penn Park is "at" Union Station (Pittsburgh). Shouldn't that redlink be redirected to Union Station? ---- DanTD ( talk) 13:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.
Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot ( Disable) 21:26, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I was wondering if a few of you could help me out and answer my question over at Talk:List of rail diagrams. I am confused as to why this is an article. Mahalo and thanks! -- Ali'i 19:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I just added Cyprus Government Railway as a Start class article to the project. Sv1xv ( talk) 11:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
In the next few days I hop to expand a few Polish articles with content from the following Australian Broadcasting Corporation program material, including Wolsztyn and even PKP class Pm36. In the meantime, I thought that some of our other editors might find the following bit of source material of general interest and enjoyment, particularly the actual program flash/broadband video links in "Further information" section. http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2008/s2299102.htm - Zzrbiker ( talk) 09:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I removed scotch and added with samll and _not_ bold text (as opposed to the Scotch link before) some of the dominant gauges of the world. Template talk:Rail gauge TrackConnect ( talk) 18:04, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Hay, I'm a NSW rail fan. If an admin could please visit this page, that would be nice. Any Aussie train fans here btw? Benshi —Preceding undated comment was added at 06:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
There is currently a proposal for a bot that would notify WikiProjects when their articles have entered certain workflows, e.g. when they are nominated for deletion or for Good article reassessment.
The question is whether a relevant number of wikiprojects would be interested in using such a bot. You can find details of the functionality, and leave your comments, at the bot request page.
I am posting this message to the 20 largest WikiProjects (by number of articles), since they would be the most likely users. Thanks, -- B. Wolterding ( talk) 12:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The SEPTA navigation box is currently breaking up! Can somebody fix it? ---- DanTD ( talk) 10:50, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Done - I found a broken bracket in the template and fixed it.
Slambo
(Speak) 16:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
This edit by 67.82.246.181 introduced the problem.
Slambo
(Speak)
16:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
The following articles are up for deletion for notability reasons.
See the batch deletion discussion for all of them
here.
(Note: I did not initiate the deletion discussions and linked them here for information purposes as they fall into the scope of this project.) -- Oakshade ( talk) 04:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
(Note: this concerns U.S. railroads, though the same ideas probably apply elsewhere.) So we have categories like Category:Utah railroads and Category:Defunct Utah railroads. It's pretty clear that, for instance, Union Pacific Railroad belongs in the former and Utah and Northern Railway in the latter, since the UP owns and operates trackage, while the U&N no longer exists as a company. But there are definite shades of gray here.
I'm sure there are more types. The point is that we don't currently have a definite way of deciding which category a railroad belongs in. Can we please discuss this? -- NE2 22:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
If you go to just about any Baltimore Light Rail station article and look at the infobox, you will see that the rail color box is missing the color box and the line name is still there. I checked the color templates for any recent edits and found none. Does anybody know the source of this glitch? Murjax ( talk) 03:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
There appears to be a glitch in the template that causes errors on the pages it it placed in. However, I can't seem to locate the source of the glitch. Can anyone find out where it is? Murjax ( talk) 17:37, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
The Burlington Northern Railroad article had a massive data dump (about 85k of text) added to it over the weekend. I've moved the data to a temporary subpage because it looks like a potential copyvio; the data there needs a rather large amount of formatting and wikifying if we are to improve the quality of the main article with it. Looking a little further, I find that the user that added it, Qy0f ( talk · contribs), has added similar data dumps to a number of other articles and that they will all need some work to bring them in line with the Wikipedia Manual of Style and other policies and guidelines. Any help on this and the other articles would be greatly appreciated. Slambo (Speak) 14:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Rather than undo the reverts, I've asked him to join the discussion here. I hope we can all come to consensus on how best to add and keep the information. Slambo (Speak) 11:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Should we link instances of Whyte notation - e.g. in the captions in this article: Bury Bar Frame locomotive to Whyte notation so that users have a clue what the notation means? Should this become a general policy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tagishsimon ( talk • contribs) 08:03, July 31, 2008
{{
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gives
2-2-0. —
Pek, on behalf of
Tivedshambo
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14:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Well it appears that if you put the NRHP box inside the infobox on a station article and the services box is also in there, the services box will often make the infobox wider than the NRHP box such as is the case in Main Street Station (Richmond). It appears the only way to fix the problem is to shorten the width of the services box. Is this possible? Murjax ( talk) 16:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Could anyone help in translating nl:I11 to english? STTW (talk) 21:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt reply. I've made a request there. -- STTW (talk) 22:09, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
By general consensus, an unedited machine translation, left as a Wikipedia article, is worse than nothing - see Wikipedia:Translation#What to remember when translating. — Tivedshambo ( t/ c) 07:43, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
You may know that there is an ongoing project to review all GAs listed before 26 August 2007, when the GA criteria were substantially altered. The intention is to check that these articles meet the current good article criteria. There are currently five articles tagged by this Trains project which have been placed on hold for up to seven days, mainly pending some improvements to referencing:
I hope someone from this project will be able to help these articles keep their GA status. -- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 12:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I just created Street running as use in railroad. (Original redirect goes to unrelated article). Please add information as needed. SYSS Mouse ( talk) 18:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I've compiled a list of the U.S. Class I railroads up to 1940 on User:NE2/US Class I. There are probably a few missing, but this should provide a good list of articles that need writing or improving. -- NE2 12:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I recently called for a merger of Railtown 1897 State Historic Park into Railtown 1897 or vice-versa. It appears to be one in the same place with two articles. Actually, I was hoping that Railtown 1897 State Historic Park is merged into Railtown 1897 and renamed as Railtown 1897 State Historic Park. Go to the Proposed mergers page to discuss the issue. ---- DanTD ( talk) 04:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I've started an article on Berlin-Schönefeld Airport railway station at User:Lambdoid/Berlin-Schönefeld Airport railway station. It's mostly based on the German article for the station and is very short, a stub. I'm wary of creating an article in the mainspace straight away in case it means overhauling a few templates. Thanks! Lamb doid 04:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
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Right now, there seem to be a few glitches connected to articles on stations that are either along, or connect to the PATCO Speedline. They include Walter Rand Transportation Center, Lindenwold (NJT station), and Market East Station. ---- DanTD ( talk) 13:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, now that the problems related with PATCO Speedline stations have been fixed, there are a few other stations in Metro Phily that I've been struggling to fix. Recently I was able to get the tag removed from 15–16th & Locust (PATCO station), with some success, but there are still a lot of tags on Morton (SEPTA station). it has become clear that adding history and some referecnes aren't enough. What else can I do, short of moving to Morton, PA, and gouging the local library's history department? ---- DanTD ( talk) 02:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Hamm (Westfalen) railway station, a GA tagged by this project, has just been reviewed as part of the GA Sweeps Project and has been placed on hold pending the resolution of a few issues. The review can be found here. -- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 14:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
See also: Wikipedia_talk:AIR#Wikipedia:Notability_.28aircraft.29, Wikipedia:Notability (aircraft).
The WP:AIR project has drafted some notability proposals that have not had a lot of discussion but are generally followed. One of the concerns that came up in actually implementing these guidelines was that they were too specific. I was considering whether or not it would make sense to have a unified transport notability guideline, since planes, trains, and automobiles have similar boundaries for notability (i.e. notability of broad types, individually notable vehicles, etc...).
Does this project have any notability rules that could be rolled into making a unified "notability for vehicles guideline?" Would this kind of guideline be helpful or appropriate? SDY ( talk) 19:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
So I'm going through the unassessed category again this month and I start thinking about the banner again (dangerous, I know...). Anyway, would it be helpful to anyone else if the banner displayed the date that the article was last assessed for quality and importance? What I'm thinking here would be a new parameter, perhaps called revdate, where the reviewer would enter the date that the article was assessed at the same time as entering a value for the class and importance parameter.
For example, I just reviewed the article Flint and Holly Railroad as a stub-class article. In this case, I updated the banner call on the talk page to read:
{{TrainsWikiProject|class=stub|importance=low|imageneeded=yes|mapneeded=yes}}
If I wanted to add the date that the article was reviewed, I would then put:
{{TrainsWikiProject|class=stub|importance=low|imageneeded=yes|mapneeded=yes|revdate=[[2008-08-12]]}}
The banner would then display (with the links removed from this page for clarity here) the review date on the same line as the quality rating as in:
Stub This article has been rated Stub-class on the quality scale. (assessment comments) (reviewed August 12, 2008)
We could have the banner also sort articles into categories based on the year that they were last reviewed so we have a convenient auto-maintained list of articles where the last review has occurred over some period of time in the past. With such a list, we could then concentrate on those articles that were last assessed, say two years ago, and sweep through them for reassessments or quality improvements.
So, would this be helpful or am I just looking for work here? Slambo (Speak) 19:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I have been steadily translating and creating articles on German railways in recent weeks before I knew of this project. So far I have added: all DRG and Bavarian steam locos; history pages on most of the former state railways ( Länderbahnen); a number of pages on German railway museums e.g. the Nuremberg Transport Museum; technical articles e.g. on the Krauss-Helmholtz bogie; and pages on some German railway pioneers e.g. Joseph Anton von Maffei. However, there is so much material on de.wiki and elsewhere that I will not be able to cover it all. In particular, I have left the post-1945 period and many of the (non-Bavarian) state railway locos because that's not my area of interest or expertise and it's too large anyway.
My question is: is it worth thinking about setting up a German railways project or task force to get some joint working on this? What are the pros and cons? Is anyone interested in joining in? -- Bermicourt ( talk) 17:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Can you please explain what needs to be done to set up the project and then to 'maintain' it? Should I mark all discussion pages of relevant articles with the Project template? How do I grade the articles? Guidance appreciated. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 13:45, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
If you look at the line template for the Hob-33 line, in any of the station articles, you will see the same glitch that we had with the Baltimore Light Rail not that long ago. Murjax ( talk) 17:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Good Afternoon,
Stumbled across these images at WikiCommons New York City Subway rollsigns, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not, sorry if it isn't.
They all appear to be gif bitmaps, when vector based images would serve a better purpose. As I have had an attempt at doing some myself that hasn't been entirely fruitful, I have since found out that Inkscape has a handy trace tool and would assume that this would make the task alot more straight forward to do. I'm just looking to see if others feel this is required & if these new versions would be an acceptable replacement to the exisiting ones. Following is an example of what I am proposing.
Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thank you Rfsjim ( talk) 08:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm proposing this article for deletion for the reasons stated in the prod box over there. If anyone has any thoughts on the matter, please comment on the talk page. Textorus ( talk) 02:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Please come comment at Talk:Grand Central Station (Chicago)/GA1.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 19:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The review closed as keep. Slambo (Speak) 11:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I have created a new article on a new type of bogie based on some basic google search. Perhaps someone with more knowledge on the topic can help expand the article. Thanks -- STTW (talk) 18:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I noticed there were a few locomotive infoboxes, is there any particular infobox that we should be using, or are they all ok to be used. Joedamadman ( talk) 01:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
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I didn't know whether I should add this to prject rapid transit, or project streetcars, so I thought I'd add it here. I was wondering how everybody felt about having separate named for MBTA rapid transit line stations. For example, Arlington (MBTA station) would be renamed Arlington (MBTA Green Line station), Stony Brook (MBTA station) would be renamed Stony Brook (MBTA Orange Line station), Suffolk Downs (MBTA station) would be renamed Suffolk Downs (MBTA Blue Line station), Harvard (MBTA station) would be renamed Harvard (MBTA Red Line station), etcetera. ---- DanTD ( talk) 20:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
An anonymous IP 83.67.55.217 has been deleting names, categories, and stub tags from several railway pages. Can someone check to see if this is vandalism or good faith? Thanks, -- Jh12 ( talk) 19:36, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Earlier this week I put a question on Template talk:US class III about the possibility of splitting that navbox into separate navboxes by state. My thinking here is that there are so many Class III railroads, especially when we include defunct railroads, that this template will become too large to be practical if we expand it to include them all. Please join the discussion there. Slambo (Speak) 21:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm looking to get some info on rail lines in Bergen County, New Jersey. I've got what I think is the list of rail lines on the talk page there, and would appreciate some review. Specifically, I hope to find of if this list is correct and complete, and what current rail lines own/use the lines now. If anyone can help, it would be appreciated. Please reply there. Thanks. -- ChrisRuvolo ( t) 21:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I've been thinking about categorization recently; let's use Category:Rail transport in Utah as an example. There are many different subjects relating to rail transport, and it's usually pretty clear where something falls.
First off, would it make sense to rename Category:Utah railroads to something like Category:Railroad companies in Utah to make it clearer what the purpose of the category is?
Then there are private railroads like the Deseret Western Railway and Kennecott Utah Copper rail line. Are these companies, lines, or both? -- NE2 02:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I believe that I have taken this article as far as I can...will someone here help me expand it further so that it is at least C-class? the_ed 17 03:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Looks like there's a lengthy history of the Lehigh Valley Railroad by Robert F. Archer from '77--I've put in a request at my library for it, but it'll be a few weeks ;). Mackensen (talk) 01:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I've added an image. Mackensen (talk) 01:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
(Copied from WT:GER) Mjroots ( talk)
I notice that there are a lot of articles about train stations named in German, examples:
Berlin Dresdner Bahnhof Berlin Hauptbahnhof
and especially bad: Frankfurt (Main) Flughafen Fernbahnhof
Shouldn't these all be renamed into English, here on the English language wikipedia? Abc30 ( talk) 21:26, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
(un-indent) I don't think that "Hauptbahnhof" needs translating at all, first because a direct translation is tricky, and secondly because it could be argued to be part of the station's full name. For cases such as Berlin Ostbahnhof, no translation is needed either. For instance, in Paris we have Gare du Nord, Gare Saint-Lazare, etc. -- RFBailey ( talk) 14:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
There is no easy answer to this and it is not restricted to Bahnhof. How do we translate the names of railway museums ( Verkehrsmuseum Nürnberg or Nuremberg Transport Museum?), railway lines ( Kochelseebahn or 'Lake Kochel railway'?), etc? There are probably no good hard and fast rules, but well known English versions like Munich, Brunswick, etc, ought to be translated. My Munich guidebook refers to the 'Hauptbahnhof' but puts 'Central Station' in brackets. Likewise for most other proper names. Personally I'm tempted to leave Hauptbahnhof in German, but translate Bahnhof to 'station'. Why? Because there's only one Zwiesel station, so no chance of confusion, but where there's a Hauptbahnhof, there are usually others, so even Brits would tend to talk about the Hauptbahnhof (usually pronouncing it "Howp-banoff"!) - it's part of the name. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 20:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
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Could you please tell me what the word leer means in the above Line guide? Is it a proper part of the Line guide or is it Vandalism? Kathleen.wright5 24:30, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I was just wondering if our project should have its own banner. See WT:Rail#Banner. Simply south ( talk) 19:14, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Right now, all Harlem Line (Metro-North) and New Jersey Transit station articles are losing their colors. Why is this happening, and can somebody fixt them? ---- DanTD ( talk) 18:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
(Outdent) The problem is Middleborough/Lakeville. It's so long, without breaking, that it forces abnormal width in the next station cell. The solution is to surround the '/' with spaces in Template:MBTA stations, which I've done now. Things should look better. Mackensen (talk) 15:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I suppose this has been discussed before but with the articles List of pre-1950 rail accidents and List of 1950-1999 rail accidents, shouldn't List of rail accidents follow suit sort of with a name like List of rail accidents 2000-present? Simply south ( talk) 19:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
WP:MONORAILS could use a lot of help attracting members and editing articles in it's scope (seeing as there are only two members). If anyone is interested, please sign up! Basketball110 My story/ Tell me yours 01:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
A little history: I started the monorails task force in February of 2007. After several months, it attracted no members at all, so I had it deleted. Then, this March, Basketball110 convinced me to try again, and so far, after 2 months, still nothing, really. If this little discussion continues to bring no one, I think it should be folded again until monorails really get popular.-- MrFish Go Fish 23:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey folks, I'm putting together an article on the apparently dead proposal for a Fort Worth/Dalls—Denver train variously called the Caprock Chief or Caprock Express. Any expert assistance (like why it suddenly dropped off the face of the earth) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 11:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
On Thursday, May 15, this will be Today's Featured Article on Wikipedia's Main Page. Because of the huge amount of anon IP vandalism TFAs attract (averaging 100+ for the day), anyone who can help keep an eye on this article and revert vandalism is requested. JGHowes talk - 00:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I have noticed a slight problem with the {{ Infobox nrhp}} combo infoboxes. When the NRHP infobox is added to the main infobox, it causes a few things to be excluded. One of which is the services. The services info is usually found on the bottom of most infoboxes however on some articles, this is still found in it's own box on the bottom of the page. If you try moving it to an infobox with NRHP info added to it, nothing will happen. If you try adding a style to the infobox, it will also be excluded. An example is found on the Selma-Smithfield (Amtrak station) article. Does anybody have any ideas on how to fix this infobox glitch? Murjax ( talk) 00:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I may very well be missing something obvious or have bad search skills, but is there any general guideline on what makes a class of locomotive, an engineer or a particular locomotive notable? I'm not sure when it's appropriate to start a new article. -- Tombomp ( talk) 19:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I finally managed to scrape some time together this week to start on updates to the {{ TrainsWikiProject}} template. The bugs noted on the template's talk page are getting addressed, but more importantly, I'm working on collapsible sections for associated projects/task forces as well as for tasks that need to be done. The idea behind the collapsible sections is to keep the banner from taking up too much space when there are multiple associated projects/forces/tasks on a page; I used {{ WikiProject China}} and {{ WP Australia}} as models for this. The needed tasks section is not yet implemented in the test database, but I'm planning for it to work similar to the associated project/force section (you can use the UK parameters to try this out). My work in progress (which doesn't have all of the associated project/force parameters and almost none of the required task parameters yet) is at User:Slambo/TWP test 1. Praise/gripes/comments? AdThanksVance. Slambo (Speak) 14:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I finally submitted a suggestion for a proposed Chicago Area Public Transportation WikiProject to the project council. Discuss the issue on this page. ---- DanTD ( talk) 23:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi there,
I made a new page for GrandLuxe Rail Journeys, a train which used to be American Orient Express. I'm not advertising them and if you read the copy, it is certainly objective - neither flattering nor flaming. It's a real train with strong history and I'm surprised there isn't already a page for it.
I was told it was being deleted for the very strange reason that it was a redirect for an implausable type. (Hu???)
Per suggestion by RHaworth (below)I am asking someone on this project to move it to GrandLuxe Rail Journeys.
-- User3232 ( talk) 16:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Since you have no contributions history, there is an inevitable suspicion that you are advertising GrandLuxe Rail. But reading your article, I have to admit that it is not seriously spammy. What I suggest you do is:
That will give it a far greater chance of surviving. (And if no-one is willing to move it, we will know it is spam!) -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 20:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Article has been AfD'd. Mjroots ( talk) 04:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Tagged article List of MLW diesel locomotives for WikiProject Trains Sv1xv ( talk) 06:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I've tagged this as needing references improving. The UK list has been completely reworked, and the US one is about to be culled of unreferenced material. Therefore the NZ article should be treated in the same way. Time should be allowed for references to be provided, and unreference entries culled and archived after sufficient time has been given to provide references. Mjroots ( talk) 13:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
It's been a while since I mentioned this here, but at the NMRA national convention in Anaheim this coming July, I'll be presenting a clinic on the state of the Trains WikiProject since the last national convention last summer in Detroit (where I presented an introductory clinic on this WikiProject). In keeping with the wiki spirit, please take a moment to stop in at my clinic notes page and add anything that you think needs to be discussed in such a clinic.
I'm not currently planning to attend the convention next year in Connecticut (so if another editor wants to take on that clinic, I can forward any materials that are needed), but as a member of the Midwest Region's Board of Directors, I will be at the 2010 convention in Milwaukee, and I was already directly asked to present a few clinics there by the current Region president.
AdThanksVance. Slambo (Speak) 18:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
The name of this project is confusing since it obviously covers more than just the railed vehicles, which are a only small subset of railway systems, both economically and in terms of number of articles. It should correctly be named "Wikiproject Rail Transport", so that contributors who write articles on high speed rail lines, train companies, fare systems, train stations, etc. won't shy away from adding their articles here. -- Cambrasa confab 10:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I've just created an article for this company, which runs sleeper trains between Estonia and Russia. I'm quite a new member, and this is my biggest contribution so far, so if anyone wants to have a look and maybe improve it please do!!
Don't ask me why I chose this subject... I've been to Estonia last month and was browsing just now, bored on a quiet day at work, and this redlink grabbed me. Not in any way a train expert. I can't read Estonian either, so I'm sure someone that can would be able to add more, but I hope it's useful so far. I'm posting this to WP:Estonia too. — FIRE! in a crowded theatre... 16:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Rails with trails includes a map from a reliable source, showing 2 rails with trails in New Mexico. One is the Santa Fe Rail Trail along the Santa Fe Southern Railway, but I cannot identify the other. Based on the relative positions of the dots on that map, the mystery railroad is either somewhere east of Taos, or somewhere west of Albuquerque. Help? Please respond on Talk:Rails with trails. Thanks! -- Una Smith ( talk) 20:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Does anybody know where I can find a tag for articles that need infoboxes? Because I wanted to add one to Mt. Washington (Baltimore Light Rail station). ---- DanTD ( talk) 20:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Just a note about the ongoing discussion at Wikipedia:Notability (Places and transportation) which through the backdoor involves the notability of stations. Agathoclea ( talk) 08:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Wikipedia:Templates with red links/2008-Jan-Railroads should be associated with this project. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
The article Everard Calthrop was recently elevated to Good Article status. How can it be added to the list on this page? -- Michael Johnson ( talk) 22:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
The LIRR style tag for East Hampton (LIRR station) decided all of the sudden to relocate "East" over "Hampton" and folded up the blue underline that Long Island Rail Road stations have had for nearly half a century. ---- DanTD ( talk) 22:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
With all my talk of checking Metro-North stations, now I find the New Haven Line is facing the same problems. So are the Pascack Valley Line and Port Jervis Line. ---- DanTD ( talk) 22:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Agr brought up an interesting issue with the South Station infobox. It's too long. Now long infoboxes exist on many other articles including Pennsylvania Station (New York) and Union Station (Los Angeles). Infoboxes are an inportant part of railway station articles, but there should be an option available to collapse them. I haven't been able to figure out how to do it, so any help will be appreciated. Murjax ( talk) 18:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
There currently is a discussion underway on Talk:Railroad about whether the Railroad disambiguation page should be moved and redirected to a primary topic. It would be helpful to have more editors review the page and express their views. -- Russ (talk) 21:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
(unindent) I've just had a look at the edit history for railway, which is also a redirect to rail transport. Back in April it had exactly the same content that Railroad (disambiguation) now has, except that the latter uses 'railroad' for its headings. I am sure that railway/railroad were BOTH set as redirects to rail transport to avoid the UK/US terminology issues, and recreating DAB pages just re-introduces these issues -- there isn't a 'nice' way of integrating the two terms.
Is the new page really a disambiguation page? To me it looks like just a list of links, and rather incomplete, without any further explanation. Looking at the 'See also' section on Rail transport, it would be better to link to List of rail transport topics, within which there could be a new section listing the different types of railways (sorry, railroads). Then the hat note could be:
That list page needs further work, but is sorely underused at present.
EdJogg ( talk) 12:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Please join the discussion. Slambo (Speak) 13:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Another editor has proposed moving First Transcontinental Railroad to First United States trancontinental railroad. Please join the discussion. Slambo (Speak) 11:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
A relatively new editor has moved the article Passenger car to Passenger rail car and made the original location a disambiguation page. While I can understand the reasoning for such a move, it seems to me that a better destination for the article about railroad rolling stock would be Passenger car (rail) (such as we have for Coach (rail) and Stock car (rail)). Comments? Slambo (Speak) 11:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Another editor nominated Template:First Great Western color today as unused. I looked around, but didn't see any mention of this on the various s-rail and s-line template documentation pages. If this is still needed, please join the discussion. Slambo (Speak) 12:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
For those who don't monitor the assessment discussions, there is a proposal to modify the current article assessment scheme. The options currently being vetted for change are:
Other discussions elsewhere on that talk page include a proposal to rename GA class as B+ class. The discussion linked here will close on the evening of May 25/26. Slambo (Speak) 16:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
The two least disruptive options (no changes or add a new C class between start and B) have the most support. In the first case, we won't need to do anything, for the second, we add a category and take a second look at the articles already in start and B classes. Slambo (Speak) 13:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
The conclusions have been issued from the discussion referenced here. Right now, things stay the same, but there is growing consensus to add a C class article quality level. Slambo (Speak) 14:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Consensus has been reached and C-Class is to be added to the scheme. I've created the appropriate categories for this and most of the subprojects here, and I've added it to the rewritten banner template, but there's still more that needs to be added there before I move this updated banner live. There is still some discussion on what the criteria will be in the {{ grading scheme}} as well as how the class will be initially populated, including one proposal to automatically move B-Class articles that have maintenance templates to C-Class. Slambo (Speak) 19:09, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Cheakamus River derailment - there's been more than one derailment; this used to be 2005 Cheakamus River derailment; Already posted on WPCanada, but hoping someone here may know of the older derailments. Skookum1 ( talk) 16:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Currently, 2031 articles assigned to this project, or 10.5%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 18 June 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page. -- B. Wolterding ( talk) 12:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
If it's useful to anyone, I've created a template to simplify wikilinking of common
Whyte notations; for example {{
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Okay, I think I've got everything in the rebuild of the {{ TrainsWikiProject}} banner. Please take a look at the new banner and let me know of anything that is missing. The biggest change is that the associated projects/task forces are now within a hide block and the pending tasks (unref, imageneeded, etc.) are in another hide block. I've also got it where if the associated project has a portal, that will be linked too. Unless there are any objections, I plan to slide this update live by this weekend. Slambo (Speak) 15:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way that the combined Railroad-NRHP infobox can be evened out? I thought removing the map would help, but it didn't. ---- DanTD ( talk) 03:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Another group of articles that have some problems are those for Baltimore Light Rail stations. The one at University of Baltimore/Mt. Royal (Baltimore Light Rail station) doesn't indicate that the next stop for the Penn Station – Camden Yards Line is the terminus of that line for some reason. While we're on the subject of light rail, looking at Steel Plaza (PAT station), I've noticed a redlink for Penn Park, and the 42 South Hills Village article indicating that Penn Park is "at" Union Station (Pittsburgh). Shouldn't that redlink be redirected to Union Station? ---- DanTD ( talk) 13:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.
Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot ( Disable) 21:26, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
I was wondering if a few of you could help me out and answer my question over at Talk:List of rail diagrams. I am confused as to why this is an article. Mahalo and thanks! -- Ali'i 19:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I just added Cyprus Government Railway as a Start class article to the project. Sv1xv ( talk) 11:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
In the next few days I hop to expand a few Polish articles with content from the following Australian Broadcasting Corporation program material, including Wolsztyn and even PKP class Pm36. In the meantime, I thought that some of our other editors might find the following bit of source material of general interest and enjoyment, particularly the actual program flash/broadband video links in "Further information" section. http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2008/s2299102.htm - Zzrbiker ( talk) 09:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I removed scotch and added with samll and _not_ bold text (as opposed to the Scotch link before) some of the dominant gauges of the world. Template talk:Rail gauge TrackConnect ( talk) 18:04, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Hay, I'm a NSW rail fan. If an admin could please visit this page, that would be nice. Any Aussie train fans here btw? Benshi —Preceding undated comment was added at 06:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
There is currently a proposal for a bot that would notify WikiProjects when their articles have entered certain workflows, e.g. when they are nominated for deletion or for Good article reassessment.
The question is whether a relevant number of wikiprojects would be interested in using such a bot. You can find details of the functionality, and leave your comments, at the bot request page.
I am posting this message to the 20 largest WikiProjects (by number of articles), since they would be the most likely users. Thanks, -- B. Wolterding ( talk) 12:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
The SEPTA navigation box is currently breaking up! Can somebody fix it? ---- DanTD ( talk) 10:50, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Done - I found a broken bracket in the template and fixed it.
Slambo
(Speak) 16:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
This edit by 67.82.246.181 introduced the problem.
Slambo
(Speak)
16:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
The following articles are up for deletion for notability reasons.
See the batch deletion discussion for all of them
here.
(Note: I did not initiate the deletion discussions and linked them here for information purposes as they fall into the scope of this project.) -- Oakshade ( talk) 04:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
(Note: this concerns U.S. railroads, though the same ideas probably apply elsewhere.) So we have categories like Category:Utah railroads and Category:Defunct Utah railroads. It's pretty clear that, for instance, Union Pacific Railroad belongs in the former and Utah and Northern Railway in the latter, since the UP owns and operates trackage, while the U&N no longer exists as a company. But there are definite shades of gray here.
I'm sure there are more types. The point is that we don't currently have a definite way of deciding which category a railroad belongs in. Can we please discuss this? -- NE2 22:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
If you go to just about any Baltimore Light Rail station article and look at the infobox, you will see that the rail color box is missing the color box and the line name is still there. I checked the color templates for any recent edits and found none. Does anybody know the source of this glitch? Murjax ( talk) 03:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
There appears to be a glitch in the template that causes errors on the pages it it placed in. However, I can't seem to locate the source of the glitch. Can anyone find out where it is? Murjax ( talk) 17:37, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
The Burlington Northern Railroad article had a massive data dump (about 85k of text) added to it over the weekend. I've moved the data to a temporary subpage because it looks like a potential copyvio; the data there needs a rather large amount of formatting and wikifying if we are to improve the quality of the main article with it. Looking a little further, I find that the user that added it, Qy0f ( talk · contribs), has added similar data dumps to a number of other articles and that they will all need some work to bring them in line with the Wikipedia Manual of Style and other policies and guidelines. Any help on this and the other articles would be greatly appreciated. Slambo (Speak) 14:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Rather than undo the reverts, I've asked him to join the discussion here. I hope we can all come to consensus on how best to add and keep the information. Slambo (Speak) 11:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Should we link instances of Whyte notation - e.g. in the captions in this article: Bury Bar Frame locomotive to Whyte notation so that users have a clue what the notation means? Should this become a general policy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tagishsimon ( talk • contribs) 08:03, July 31, 2008
{{
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gives
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Pek, on behalf of
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14:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Well it appears that if you put the NRHP box inside the infobox on a station article and the services box is also in there, the services box will often make the infobox wider than the NRHP box such as is the case in Main Street Station (Richmond). It appears the only way to fix the problem is to shorten the width of the services box. Is this possible? Murjax ( talk) 16:11, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Could anyone help in translating nl:I11 to english? STTW (talk) 21:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt reply. I've made a request there. -- STTW (talk) 22:09, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
By general consensus, an unedited machine translation, left as a Wikipedia article, is worse than nothing - see Wikipedia:Translation#What to remember when translating. — Tivedshambo ( t/ c) 07:43, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
You may know that there is an ongoing project to review all GAs listed before 26 August 2007, when the GA criteria were substantially altered. The intention is to check that these articles meet the current good article criteria. There are currently five articles tagged by this Trains project which have been placed on hold for up to seven days, mainly pending some improvements to referencing:
I hope someone from this project will be able to help these articles keep their GA status. -- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 12:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I just created Street running as use in railroad. (Original redirect goes to unrelated article). Please add information as needed. SYSS Mouse ( talk) 18:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
I've compiled a list of the U.S. Class I railroads up to 1940 on User:NE2/US Class I. There are probably a few missing, but this should provide a good list of articles that need writing or improving. -- NE2 12:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I recently called for a merger of Railtown 1897 State Historic Park into Railtown 1897 or vice-versa. It appears to be one in the same place with two articles. Actually, I was hoping that Railtown 1897 State Historic Park is merged into Railtown 1897 and renamed as Railtown 1897 State Historic Park. Go to the Proposed mergers page to discuss the issue. ---- DanTD ( talk) 04:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I've started an article on Berlin-Schönefeld Airport railway station at User:Lambdoid/Berlin-Schönefeld Airport railway station. It's mostly based on the German article for the station and is very short, a stub. I'm wary of creating an article in the mainspace straight away in case it means overhauling a few templates. Thanks! Lamb doid 04:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
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Right now, there seem to be a few glitches connected to articles on stations that are either along, or connect to the PATCO Speedline. They include Walter Rand Transportation Center, Lindenwold (NJT station), and Market East Station. ---- DanTD ( talk) 13:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, now that the problems related with PATCO Speedline stations have been fixed, there are a few other stations in Metro Phily that I've been struggling to fix. Recently I was able to get the tag removed from 15–16th & Locust (PATCO station), with some success, but there are still a lot of tags on Morton (SEPTA station). it has become clear that adding history and some referecnes aren't enough. What else can I do, short of moving to Morton, PA, and gouging the local library's history department? ---- DanTD ( talk) 02:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Hamm (Westfalen) railway station, a GA tagged by this project, has just been reviewed as part of the GA Sweeps Project and has been placed on hold pending the resolution of a few issues. The review can be found here. -- Malleus Fatuorum ( talk) 14:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
See also: Wikipedia_talk:AIR#Wikipedia:Notability_.28aircraft.29, Wikipedia:Notability (aircraft).
The WP:AIR project has drafted some notability proposals that have not had a lot of discussion but are generally followed. One of the concerns that came up in actually implementing these guidelines was that they were too specific. I was considering whether or not it would make sense to have a unified transport notability guideline, since planes, trains, and automobiles have similar boundaries for notability (i.e. notability of broad types, individually notable vehicles, etc...).
Does this project have any notability rules that could be rolled into making a unified "notability for vehicles guideline?" Would this kind of guideline be helpful or appropriate? SDY ( talk) 19:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
So I'm going through the unassessed category again this month and I start thinking about the banner again (dangerous, I know...). Anyway, would it be helpful to anyone else if the banner displayed the date that the article was last assessed for quality and importance? What I'm thinking here would be a new parameter, perhaps called revdate, where the reviewer would enter the date that the article was assessed at the same time as entering a value for the class and importance parameter.
For example, I just reviewed the article Flint and Holly Railroad as a stub-class article. In this case, I updated the banner call on the talk page to read:
{{TrainsWikiProject|class=stub|importance=low|imageneeded=yes|mapneeded=yes}}
If I wanted to add the date that the article was reviewed, I would then put:
{{TrainsWikiProject|class=stub|importance=low|imageneeded=yes|mapneeded=yes|revdate=[[2008-08-12]]}}
The banner would then display (with the links removed from this page for clarity here) the review date on the same line as the quality rating as in:
Stub This article has been rated Stub-class on the quality scale. (assessment comments) (reviewed August 12, 2008)
We could have the banner also sort articles into categories based on the year that they were last reviewed so we have a convenient auto-maintained list of articles where the last review has occurred over some period of time in the past. With such a list, we could then concentrate on those articles that were last assessed, say two years ago, and sweep through them for reassessments or quality improvements.
So, would this be helpful or am I just looking for work here? Slambo (Speak) 19:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I have been steadily translating and creating articles on German railways in recent weeks before I knew of this project. So far I have added: all DRG and Bavarian steam locos; history pages on most of the former state railways ( Länderbahnen); a number of pages on German railway museums e.g. the Nuremberg Transport Museum; technical articles e.g. on the Krauss-Helmholtz bogie; and pages on some German railway pioneers e.g. Joseph Anton von Maffei. However, there is so much material on de.wiki and elsewhere that I will not be able to cover it all. In particular, I have left the post-1945 period and many of the (non-Bavarian) state railway locos because that's not my area of interest or expertise and it's too large anyway.
My question is: is it worth thinking about setting up a German railways project or task force to get some joint working on this? What are the pros and cons? Is anyone interested in joining in? -- Bermicourt ( talk) 17:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Can you please explain what needs to be done to set up the project and then to 'maintain' it? Should I mark all discussion pages of relevant articles with the Project template? How do I grade the articles? Guidance appreciated. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 13:45, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
If you look at the line template for the Hob-33 line, in any of the station articles, you will see the same glitch that we had with the Baltimore Light Rail not that long ago. Murjax ( talk) 17:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Good Afternoon,
Stumbled across these images at WikiCommons New York City Subway rollsigns, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not, sorry if it isn't.
They all appear to be gif bitmaps, when vector based images would serve a better purpose. As I have had an attempt at doing some myself that hasn't been entirely fruitful, I have since found out that Inkscape has a handy trace tool and would assume that this would make the task alot more straight forward to do. I'm just looking to see if others feel this is required & if these new versions would be an acceptable replacement to the exisiting ones. Following is an example of what I am proposing.
Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Thank you Rfsjim ( talk) 08:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm proposing this article for deletion for the reasons stated in the prod box over there. If anyone has any thoughts on the matter, please comment on the talk page. Textorus ( talk) 02:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Please come comment at Talk:Grand Central Station (Chicago)/GA1.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 19:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The review closed as keep. Slambo (Speak) 11:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I have created a new article on a new type of bogie based on some basic google search. Perhaps someone with more knowledge on the topic can help expand the article. Thanks -- STTW (talk) 18:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I noticed there were a few locomotive infoboxes, is there any particular infobox that we should be using, or are they all ok to be used. Joedamadman ( talk) 01:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
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I didn't know whether I should add this to prject rapid transit, or project streetcars, so I thought I'd add it here. I was wondering how everybody felt about having separate named for MBTA rapid transit line stations. For example, Arlington (MBTA station) would be renamed Arlington (MBTA Green Line station), Stony Brook (MBTA station) would be renamed Stony Brook (MBTA Orange Line station), Suffolk Downs (MBTA station) would be renamed Suffolk Downs (MBTA Blue Line station), Harvard (MBTA station) would be renamed Harvard (MBTA Red Line station), etcetera. ---- DanTD ( talk) 20:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
An anonymous IP 83.67.55.217 has been deleting names, categories, and stub tags from several railway pages. Can someone check to see if this is vandalism or good faith? Thanks, -- Jh12 ( talk) 19:36, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Earlier this week I put a question on Template talk:US class III about the possibility of splitting that navbox into separate navboxes by state. My thinking here is that there are so many Class III railroads, especially when we include defunct railroads, that this template will become too large to be practical if we expand it to include them all. Please join the discussion there. Slambo (Speak) 21:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm looking to get some info on rail lines in Bergen County, New Jersey. I've got what I think is the list of rail lines on the talk page there, and would appreciate some review. Specifically, I hope to find of if this list is correct and complete, and what current rail lines own/use the lines now. If anyone can help, it would be appreciated. Please reply there. Thanks. -- ChrisRuvolo ( t) 21:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I've been thinking about categorization recently; let's use Category:Rail transport in Utah as an example. There are many different subjects relating to rail transport, and it's usually pretty clear where something falls.
First off, would it make sense to rename Category:Utah railroads to something like Category:Railroad companies in Utah to make it clearer what the purpose of the category is?
Then there are private railroads like the Deseret Western Railway and Kennecott Utah Copper rail line. Are these companies, lines, or both? -- NE2 02:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
I believe that I have taken this article as far as I can...will someone here help me expand it further so that it is at least C-class? the_ed 17 03:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Looks like there's a lengthy history of the Lehigh Valley Railroad by Robert F. Archer from '77--I've put in a request at my library for it, but it'll be a few weeks ;). Mackensen (talk) 01:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I've added an image. Mackensen (talk) 01:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
(Copied from WT:GER) Mjroots ( talk)
I notice that there are a lot of articles about train stations named in German, examples:
Berlin Dresdner Bahnhof Berlin Hauptbahnhof
and especially bad: Frankfurt (Main) Flughafen Fernbahnhof
Shouldn't these all be renamed into English, here on the English language wikipedia? Abc30 ( talk) 21:26, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
(un-indent) I don't think that "Hauptbahnhof" needs translating at all, first because a direct translation is tricky, and secondly because it could be argued to be part of the station's full name. For cases such as Berlin Ostbahnhof, no translation is needed either. For instance, in Paris we have Gare du Nord, Gare Saint-Lazare, etc. -- RFBailey ( talk) 14:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
There is no easy answer to this and it is not restricted to Bahnhof. How do we translate the names of railway museums ( Verkehrsmuseum Nürnberg or Nuremberg Transport Museum?), railway lines ( Kochelseebahn or 'Lake Kochel railway'?), etc? There are probably no good hard and fast rules, but well known English versions like Munich, Brunswick, etc, ought to be translated. My Munich guidebook refers to the 'Hauptbahnhof' but puts 'Central Station' in brackets. Likewise for most other proper names. Personally I'm tempted to leave Hauptbahnhof in German, but translate Bahnhof to 'station'. Why? Because there's only one Zwiesel station, so no chance of confusion, but where there's a Hauptbahnhof, there are usually others, so even Brits would tend to talk about the Hauptbahnhof (usually pronouncing it "Howp-banoff"!) - it's part of the name. -- Bermicourt ( talk) 20:16, 2 September 2008 (UTC)