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What are your thoughts about standardizing articles to use gauge templates? We've had {{RailGauge|sg}} in our template collection for a while, and I've recently added several templates for the commoner narrow gauges. I've been replacing non-templated gauge references with templates in articles as I come across them. I think this gives us a standardized look to railway articles, but I'd like to hear what others think about this.
In particular this brings up the issue of imperial vs. metric units. The gauge templates have both, usually in the order: imperial then metric. Some articles list gauges the other way around, or just have one or the other. I know that people have strong opinions about this, and I don't want to make changes that others object to. My personal feeling is that if the gauge was originally imperial - for example, standard gauge - then quote it as imperial then metric (1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in)), for metric gauges like metre gauge, do it the other way around (1000 mm (3 ft 3.3 in)) Thanks, Gwernol 16:38, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
<noinclude>[[Category:Rail transport templates]]</noinclude>
(like on {{
Infobox Locomotive}}) to the templates themselves. Your note about which measurement units come first presents an interesting question. It seems that we should also have {{standard gauge metric}} to show the output as 1435
mm (4
ft 8½
in).
Slambo
(Speak) 17:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
in general i would like to go for metric units, as it is standard now, and hence i think we do not need metric templates. you do not have to be a prophet to know that imperial units will die out and just "hard wired" things keep it from doing this now. 1.3 billion people have English language as their first or second language, and minimum of 1 billion of them do not even know what imperial units are. canadians, irish, british people changed a long time ago, even english and american experts have difficulties with this topic and sometimes crash space ships because of this ;) but i think it is to early to remove imperial units completely. but an article like rail gauges which is imperial(metric) and metric(imperial) all the time is just poor quality. it is not a question what it was stated in originally. you do not use mid age english either. english is a or the global language and should not use mid age measurement units known only in some parts of the united states as default. -- ThurnerRupert 20:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I change it back to the standard way, and if we reach a conclusion here, we make it non-standard again, ok? Maybe you would like to read "Speak in English, and Measure in Metric" in the meantime to make up your mind if you should create http://us.wikipedia.com solve the problem :) -- FlyIn 13:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi all, since we now have probably more than a thousand articles relating to the railways of the UK alone I've decided to start a seperate Wikiproject to try and co-ordinate them a bit better. It's located at Wikiproject UK Railways t'is very basic at the moment and has only one member! But hopefully with people's help it'll be able to organise and make the articles on British railways both clearer and better structured and ultimately the most informative of any country in the world. If you know anything about railways in the UK or would just like to help out please head over and join and we'll be able to get a decent community going. ta-ta, -- Achmelvic 10:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
You've even got a third system coming along with the connected Welsh Highland and Ffestiniog Railways.-- 7severn7 18:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
This is in regards to the Wallkill Valley Railroad, a corporation formed and existing in the State of New York by Act of the State Legislature in 1866. WVRR's charter predates the formation of the ICC and it is perpetual in nature. However Wikipedia lists WVRR as "defunct" on the page titled List of New York railroads which is technically incorrect. There is a general misconception concerning the word "abandoned" in railroad parlance: it refers to the abandonment of service (to the customer), not the extinguishment of the charter. WVRR was quitclaimed by Conrail to John E. Rahl in 1986, many of the documents regarding its existence are on file with the NY Sec.of State, also reproduced at http://www.wvrr.biz .
The issue raised here is how WVRR should be re-categorized at List of New York railroads without causing a wiki war against the wikitocracy. I am the current corporate secretary for the Wallkill Valley Railroad Company. We will be creating an article in Wikipedia for the title "Wallkill Valley Railroad," but respectfully request advice on this discussion page for how to handle our improper "defunct" classification on the aforementioned List of New York railroads .
-- Shakewell 17:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Can't we simply define an existing railroad as a presently operating railroad? -- SPUI ( T - C) 12:17, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
In a side trip from the train station/ railway station discussion, I've noticed the profusion of enumerative articles. I suppose there's very possibly some reason for this in the locomotives; but when every pair of platforms and every flag stop on every rail line has a page, things have gotten out of hand.
By my quick survey, almost none of these passes any kind of notability test. And I note that most of the MARC train stations in Maryland link to the placename, even though the station building at Point of Rocks, Maryland is certainly notable. This frankly seems to me to be more reasonable. Mangoe 12:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
SilkTork and I are working on a guideline proposal for station stops and buildings over at User:Mangoe/Wikipedia is not a timetable. Please join us there for further discussion. Mangoe 18:15, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I have created Wikipedia:Places of local interest to encompass these and other places of local interest. The previous discussion had some good ideas that I've borrowed for my proposal. I'd invite anyone to comment there. Thanks, JYolkowski // talk 15:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
The 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings article has been listed as part of WikiProject Trains. However the, 7 July 2005 London bombings and the 11 March 2004 Madrid train bombings are not. I don't know much about Wikiproject trains so I'll let you all decide whether Mumbai should be removed or Madrid and maybe London should be added. Nil Einne 17:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I've created and/or expanded several articles about railroad bridges, as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Bridges (and as part of an interest in the List of historic civil engineering landmarks). I noticed that Starrucca Viaduct was recently evaluated as part of WikiProject Trains. I don't mind or anything like that, but I was wondering if it's intentional to include railroad bridges in WikiProject Trains. If so, I have a number of bridges that could be added from List of crossings of the Upper Mississippi River, as well as one of my personal favorite bridge articles, Seventh Street Improvement Arches. Should these bridges be added and evaluated?
Also, does anyone have any suggestions for expanding the bridge articles past start-class? (Or, for that matter, Minneapolis, Northfield and Southern Railway, a local short line?) -- Elkman - (Elkspeak) 20:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Looking at Category:Locomotive engineers, I find that it actually lists locomotive designers. Could we consider renaming this to something internationally intelligible? "Locomotive engineer" has an extremely specific meaning in the USA and of course utterly in conflict with this (why isn't Casey Jones on the list?). Mangoe 20:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Moscow Metro it seems that Moscow Metro is (un)fortunate enought to have one line that is officially denoted not by number but by a symbol. One user managed to keep a conflict and an edit war going on that has resulted in being the order in which the column with numbers appear in. Also helpful is his exreame stubborn approach. Can I ask that some more people come and help put a 100% FA article article out of misery. --
Kuban Cossack
17:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
There have been some comments about a task force structure for WikiProject Trains made in various talk pages. I've collected some of the ideas presented into a central location. Personally, I think it would be helpful for us to adopt a task force structure for further rail transport subtopic specialties. Please take a moment to review and discuss these thoughts. Thanks. Slambo (Speak) 22:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
As part of an attempt to clean up links to impossible dates, I've nominated Portal:Trains/Anniversaries/February 30 for deletion, since it's unlikely ever to be used. — sjorford ++ 09:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Anyone has interest in Chinese passenger rail service? It is now the largest passenger rail service in the world, and it is still quickly expanding. However, the articles about it in wikipedia now are nothing better than a doodle. I wish more people can share their information about it and help improve the quality and coverage of this topic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Changeup ( talk • contribs) . 07:56, August 3, 2006
The article, Ghost Station has just been created. Can it be moved, deleted, redirecting so it may be Wikified an a bit more to the point. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 14:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Nothing to do with railways, I'm afraid, but this item did remind me of a ghost motorway! As a youngster, I vaguely remember a photo of a partially-built autobahn flyover in West Berlin, that stopped in mid-air, as it approached the wall. Did this really exist? Where was it? Has it now been completed?
Some years later, in 1982, I did briefly visit West Berlin, but didn't see it then, and forgot to ask.
regards, Lynbarn 19:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Does this bot only cover "rapid transit" as well as "trains" WPs? Many of the metro articles around th UK are "UK rail" articles as well. On, for example the LU, the DLR and the Glasgow Subway (not sure what shorthand is for this) Simply south 10:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. -- Kbdank71 14:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC) This is just an FYI as I assume that members of the project may be interested in participating in the discussion. -- After Midnight 0001 17:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I am starting a new project called Underground. It helps bring all London Underground related articles to its best. Trains, depots, people, stations and lines. Hope you find this an interesting break-of of your project. Lenny 14:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
In reading some of the articles concerning locomotives types (eg 4-6-2, 2-8-2) I feel the combination of both tender and tank locomotive examples into the same article on wheel arrangement creates a degree of misinformation. For example, the articles on 4-6-2 and 2-8-2 discuss the purpose of the trailing axle to support a large firebox that is positioned behind the driving wheels. This is not true of a 4-6-2T or 2-8-2T tank locomotive, where the the firebox is either above the driving wheels or between the frames, and the trailing axle is there to support the weight of the coal bunker. If anything, a 4-6-2T has a more similar design to a 4-6-0 than a 4-6-2 (indeed, I can name locomotive classes where a 4-6-2T variant was directly derived from a 4-6-0 tender locomotive).
Could we consider revising the organisation of these topics such that we provide a separate page for any tank locomotive variants (eg the current 4-6-2 is split into 4-6-2 and 4-6-2T?) I appreciate this would probably represent quite a lot of work, both in restructuring existing articles, and also knowing all of the various tank engine types to add to the Whyte type category box.
I'd appreciate thoughts on a question of article organization and nomenclature in major railroad systems. Many parts of the Pennsylvania Railroad, for instance, were owned by separate corporations entirely controlled by the PRR: for instance, the Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington Railroad owned the PRR main line south of Philadelphia and remained a separate corporation, selling most of its properties to Conrail in 1976 and being dissolved some time later. However, the patterns of subsidiary ownership don't always correspond to the "patterns of operation"; that is, the portions of line designated as various branches by the operating corporation. For instance, the Trenton Cutoff of the PRR was built partly by the Trenton Cut-off Railroad and partly under the PRR charter as a branch in Chester County, but was always operated as a unit. I'd like to hear people's opinions on how to structure collections of articles on these large systems so as to address both corporate history and actual operating patterns as branches. Choess 06:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
John Bull (locomotive) is listed on the main page today in the selected anniversaries section, so it may see some increased activity, including vandalism, today. Taking a quick look through the rest of the September anniversaries, Stockton and Darlington Railway will appear on Sept 27. Slambo (Speak) 10:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject Underground needs some more members to make the project usable. So I hope you dont mind me added a note next to the link to the project, after all we are still part of your project. Thanks Lenny 19:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC) Project Founder.
It seems that a new consensus is being made on the Good article guidelines to bring it more in line with current Featured article guidelines. Specifically, inline citations may become a requirement very soon. That means that many of the articles that we currently have listed as Good trains articles will be delisted because their references are not inlined. While many of the current list use inline citations (such as on California Southern Railroad or Bay Area Rapid Transit) others list the references only at the end of the article (like CF7 or Grand Central Terminal).
What does this mean to us? It means we need to work through the GA list and get them up to snuff pretty quickly if we want to keep the majority of articles on the list. It also means that we need to get into the habit of using inline citations on future work to make the path to FA easier for those articles. Slambo (Speak) 20:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I've got a work list going on this task at Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Article maintenance task force/GA updates. Please take a look at the list and help update articles to use inline citations. A few of the articles are also severely underreferenced and need other improvements (all as noted on the list from my quick scan this morning), so any help would be greatly appreciated. If the cutoff date was today, our Good article list would shrink from 85 to 11! Slambo (Speak) 14:02, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a member of WikiProject Oregon and I keep running across references to the Oregon Railway and Navigation Company aka Oregon Railroad and Navigation Company, and I just wanted to see if any of you fine train people wanted to work up a short article on it. Thanks and happy editing! P.S. please move this request if there is a better place for it. Katr67 18:59, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
I've just added the pages and template changes for Trains project-specific peer reviews. Follow the instructions on Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Peer review to participate. These instructions are modeled after similar structures in other WikiProjects. Slambo (Speak) 12:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
What are your thoughts about standardizing articles to use gauge templates? We've had {{RailGauge|sg}} in our template collection for a while, and I've recently added several templates for the commoner narrow gauges. I've been replacing non-templated gauge references with templates in articles as I come across them. I think this gives us a standardized look to railway articles, but I'd like to hear what others think about this.
In particular this brings up the issue of imperial vs. metric units. The gauge templates have both, usually in the order: imperial then metric. Some articles list gauges the other way around, or just have one or the other. I know that people have strong opinions about this, and I don't want to make changes that others object to. My personal feeling is that if the gauge was originally imperial - for example, standard gauge - then quote it as imperial then metric (1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in)), for metric gauges like metre gauge, do it the other way around (1000 mm (3 ft 3.3 in)) Thanks, Gwernol 16:38, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
<noinclude>[[Category:Rail transport templates]]</noinclude>
(like on {{
Infobox Locomotive}}) to the templates themselves. Your note about which measurement units come first presents an interesting question. It seems that we should also have {{standard gauge metric}} to show the output as 1435
mm (4
ft 8½
in).
Slambo
(Speak) 17:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
in general i would like to go for metric units, as it is standard now, and hence i think we do not need metric templates. you do not have to be a prophet to know that imperial units will die out and just "hard wired" things keep it from doing this now. 1.3 billion people have English language as their first or second language, and minimum of 1 billion of them do not even know what imperial units are. canadians, irish, british people changed a long time ago, even english and american experts have difficulties with this topic and sometimes crash space ships because of this ;) but i think it is to early to remove imperial units completely. but an article like rail gauges which is imperial(metric) and metric(imperial) all the time is just poor quality. it is not a question what it was stated in originally. you do not use mid age english either. english is a or the global language and should not use mid age measurement units known only in some parts of the united states as default. -- ThurnerRupert 20:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I change it back to the standard way, and if we reach a conclusion here, we make it non-standard again, ok? Maybe you would like to read "Speak in English, and Measure in Metric" in the meantime to make up your mind if you should create http://us.wikipedia.com solve the problem :) -- FlyIn 13:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi all, since we now have probably more than a thousand articles relating to the railways of the UK alone I've decided to start a seperate Wikiproject to try and co-ordinate them a bit better. It's located at Wikiproject UK Railways t'is very basic at the moment and has only one member! But hopefully with people's help it'll be able to organise and make the articles on British railways both clearer and better structured and ultimately the most informative of any country in the world. If you know anything about railways in the UK or would just like to help out please head over and join and we'll be able to get a decent community going. ta-ta, -- Achmelvic 10:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
You've even got a third system coming along with the connected Welsh Highland and Ffestiniog Railways.-- 7severn7 18:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
This is in regards to the Wallkill Valley Railroad, a corporation formed and existing in the State of New York by Act of the State Legislature in 1866. WVRR's charter predates the formation of the ICC and it is perpetual in nature. However Wikipedia lists WVRR as "defunct" on the page titled List of New York railroads which is technically incorrect. There is a general misconception concerning the word "abandoned" in railroad parlance: it refers to the abandonment of service (to the customer), not the extinguishment of the charter. WVRR was quitclaimed by Conrail to John E. Rahl in 1986, many of the documents regarding its existence are on file with the NY Sec.of State, also reproduced at http://www.wvrr.biz .
The issue raised here is how WVRR should be re-categorized at List of New York railroads without causing a wiki war against the wikitocracy. I am the current corporate secretary for the Wallkill Valley Railroad Company. We will be creating an article in Wikipedia for the title "Wallkill Valley Railroad," but respectfully request advice on this discussion page for how to handle our improper "defunct" classification on the aforementioned List of New York railroads .
-- Shakewell 17:20, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Can't we simply define an existing railroad as a presently operating railroad? -- SPUI ( T - C) 12:17, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
In a side trip from the train station/ railway station discussion, I've noticed the profusion of enumerative articles. I suppose there's very possibly some reason for this in the locomotives; but when every pair of platforms and every flag stop on every rail line has a page, things have gotten out of hand.
By my quick survey, almost none of these passes any kind of notability test. And I note that most of the MARC train stations in Maryland link to the placename, even though the station building at Point of Rocks, Maryland is certainly notable. This frankly seems to me to be more reasonable. Mangoe 12:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
SilkTork and I are working on a guideline proposal for station stops and buildings over at User:Mangoe/Wikipedia is not a timetable. Please join us there for further discussion. Mangoe 18:15, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I have created Wikipedia:Places of local interest to encompass these and other places of local interest. The previous discussion had some good ideas that I've borrowed for my proposal. I'd invite anyone to comment there. Thanks, JYolkowski // talk 15:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
The 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings article has been listed as part of WikiProject Trains. However the, 7 July 2005 London bombings and the 11 March 2004 Madrid train bombings are not. I don't know much about Wikiproject trains so I'll let you all decide whether Mumbai should be removed or Madrid and maybe London should be added. Nil Einne 17:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I've created and/or expanded several articles about railroad bridges, as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Bridges (and as part of an interest in the List of historic civil engineering landmarks). I noticed that Starrucca Viaduct was recently evaluated as part of WikiProject Trains. I don't mind or anything like that, but I was wondering if it's intentional to include railroad bridges in WikiProject Trains. If so, I have a number of bridges that could be added from List of crossings of the Upper Mississippi River, as well as one of my personal favorite bridge articles, Seventh Street Improvement Arches. Should these bridges be added and evaluated?
Also, does anyone have any suggestions for expanding the bridge articles past start-class? (Or, for that matter, Minneapolis, Northfield and Southern Railway, a local short line?) -- Elkman - (Elkspeak) 20:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Looking at Category:Locomotive engineers, I find that it actually lists locomotive designers. Could we consider renaming this to something internationally intelligible? "Locomotive engineer" has an extremely specific meaning in the USA and of course utterly in conflict with this (why isn't Casey Jones on the list?). Mangoe 20:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Moscow Metro it seems that Moscow Metro is (un)fortunate enought to have one line that is officially denoted not by number but by a symbol. One user managed to keep a conflict and an edit war going on that has resulted in being the order in which the column with numbers appear in. Also helpful is his exreame stubborn approach. Can I ask that some more people come and help put a 100% FA article article out of misery. --
Kuban Cossack
17:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
There have been some comments about a task force structure for WikiProject Trains made in various talk pages. I've collected some of the ideas presented into a central location. Personally, I think it would be helpful for us to adopt a task force structure for further rail transport subtopic specialties. Please take a moment to review and discuss these thoughts. Thanks. Slambo (Speak) 22:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
As part of an attempt to clean up links to impossible dates, I've nominated Portal:Trains/Anniversaries/February 30 for deletion, since it's unlikely ever to be used. — sjorford ++ 09:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Anyone has interest in Chinese passenger rail service? It is now the largest passenger rail service in the world, and it is still quickly expanding. However, the articles about it in wikipedia now are nothing better than a doodle. I wish more people can share their information about it and help improve the quality and coverage of this topic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Changeup ( talk • contribs) . 07:56, August 3, 2006
The article, Ghost Station has just been created. Can it be moved, deleted, redirecting so it may be Wikified an a bit more to the point. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 14:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Nothing to do with railways, I'm afraid, but this item did remind me of a ghost motorway! As a youngster, I vaguely remember a photo of a partially-built autobahn flyover in West Berlin, that stopped in mid-air, as it approached the wall. Did this really exist? Where was it? Has it now been completed?
Some years later, in 1982, I did briefly visit West Berlin, but didn't see it then, and forgot to ask.
regards, Lynbarn 19:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Does this bot only cover "rapid transit" as well as "trains" WPs? Many of the metro articles around th UK are "UK rail" articles as well. On, for example the LU, the DLR and the Glasgow Subway (not sure what shorthand is for this) Simply south 10:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. -- Kbdank71 14:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC) This is just an FYI as I assume that members of the project may be interested in participating in the discussion. -- After Midnight 0001 17:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I am starting a new project called Underground. It helps bring all London Underground related articles to its best. Trains, depots, people, stations and lines. Hope you find this an interesting break-of of your project. Lenny 14:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
In reading some of the articles concerning locomotives types (eg 4-6-2, 2-8-2) I feel the combination of both tender and tank locomotive examples into the same article on wheel arrangement creates a degree of misinformation. For example, the articles on 4-6-2 and 2-8-2 discuss the purpose of the trailing axle to support a large firebox that is positioned behind the driving wheels. This is not true of a 4-6-2T or 2-8-2T tank locomotive, where the the firebox is either above the driving wheels or between the frames, and the trailing axle is there to support the weight of the coal bunker. If anything, a 4-6-2T has a more similar design to a 4-6-0 than a 4-6-2 (indeed, I can name locomotive classes where a 4-6-2T variant was directly derived from a 4-6-0 tender locomotive).
Could we consider revising the organisation of these topics such that we provide a separate page for any tank locomotive variants (eg the current 4-6-2 is split into 4-6-2 and 4-6-2T?) I appreciate this would probably represent quite a lot of work, both in restructuring existing articles, and also knowing all of the various tank engine types to add to the Whyte type category box.
I'd appreciate thoughts on a question of article organization and nomenclature in major railroad systems. Many parts of the Pennsylvania Railroad, for instance, were owned by separate corporations entirely controlled by the PRR: for instance, the Philadelphia, Baltimore and Washington Railroad owned the PRR main line south of Philadelphia and remained a separate corporation, selling most of its properties to Conrail in 1976 and being dissolved some time later. However, the patterns of subsidiary ownership don't always correspond to the "patterns of operation"; that is, the portions of line designated as various branches by the operating corporation. For instance, the Trenton Cutoff of the PRR was built partly by the Trenton Cut-off Railroad and partly under the PRR charter as a branch in Chester County, but was always operated as a unit. I'd like to hear people's opinions on how to structure collections of articles on these large systems so as to address both corporate history and actual operating patterns as branches. Choess 06:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
John Bull (locomotive) is listed on the main page today in the selected anniversaries section, so it may see some increased activity, including vandalism, today. Taking a quick look through the rest of the September anniversaries, Stockton and Darlington Railway will appear on Sept 27. Slambo (Speak) 10:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject Underground needs some more members to make the project usable. So I hope you dont mind me added a note next to the link to the project, after all we are still part of your project. Thanks Lenny 19:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC) Project Founder.
It seems that a new consensus is being made on the Good article guidelines to bring it more in line with current Featured article guidelines. Specifically, inline citations may become a requirement very soon. That means that many of the articles that we currently have listed as Good trains articles will be delisted because their references are not inlined. While many of the current list use inline citations (such as on California Southern Railroad or Bay Area Rapid Transit) others list the references only at the end of the article (like CF7 or Grand Central Terminal).
What does this mean to us? It means we need to work through the GA list and get them up to snuff pretty quickly if we want to keep the majority of articles on the list. It also means that we need to get into the habit of using inline citations on future work to make the path to FA easier for those articles. Slambo (Speak) 20:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I've got a work list going on this task at Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Article maintenance task force/GA updates. Please take a look at the list and help update articles to use inline citations. A few of the articles are also severely underreferenced and need other improvements (all as noted on the list from my quick scan this morning), so any help would be greatly appreciated. If the cutoff date was today, our Good article list would shrink from 85 to 11! Slambo (Speak) 14:02, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a member of WikiProject Oregon and I keep running across references to the Oregon Railway and Navigation Company aka Oregon Railroad and Navigation Company, and I just wanted to see if any of you fine train people wanted to work up a short article on it. Thanks and happy editing! P.S. please move this request if there is a better place for it. Katr67 18:59, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
I've just added the pages and template changes for Trains project-specific peer reviews. Follow the instructions on Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Peer review to participate. These instructions are modeled after similar structures in other WikiProjects. Slambo (Speak) 12:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)