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This website's full of information on Sydney's suburbs. Don't know how accurate it is though. Maybe someone with enough time and energy can syphon it into Wikipedia in some way or another. Also, copyright issues may need to be considered. [1] -- Jasabella 10:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering, is the sydneysuburbsbox2 really neccessary (it's on a lot of the canterbury LGA suburbs and more)? The more I look at the box, the more I think that it doesn't fit in. Is there a discussion page on this somewhere? Aside from relevance, I'm also questioning what suburbs get put into those boxes (e.g. what defines 'near'?) and where we're getting the "this suburb is south-east of this one" info from? Do we have our own little map that we're using as an authority on this to make it easier to do this? Bringing this up because the first time I saw the one for Lakemba, New South Wales I didn't think it was correct. Mentioned this in Talk:Lakemba, New South Wales but I don't think there's much discussion going on there. Blu3d 16:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Throughout The 2001 City of Blacktown Social Plan they refer to the "Sydney SD" being the Sydney Statistical Division. Is this "the same as" the Sydney greater metropolitan area? Is there a preferred phrase for that "area", and how far does it extend? is it
or does nobody really care? -- Ga rr ie 04:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
With regard to WP: Sydney, is the "scope" "any article related to any topic which is within any of the suburbs listed as being suburbs of Sydney"? There seem to be "a few" definitions of what is "in/not in" "Sydney", I am trying to go through shopping centres - there were a lot of Sydney ones straight in Category:Shopping centres in Australia, I have created Category:Shopping centres in New South Wales & Category:Shopping centres in Sydney - but are
in Sydney, or New South Wales? (yeah, that list is facetious but lets see who draws the line where!) -- Ga rr ie 01:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Articles listed on Here are some tasks you can do to help with WikiProject Australia:
Requests · Ariadne Australia · Awakenings Festival · Drought Force · Electoral reform in Australia · Fossils of Australia · Landforms of Australia · Sculpture of Australia
Articles needing attention · Australian contemporary dance · Crime in Australia · Environment of Australia · Gender inequality in Australia · Privacy in Australian law · Secession in Australia · Tourism in Australia
Images requested · Cheryl Kernot · MV Pacific Adventurer · Poppy King · Rosemary Goldie · James Moore · OneAustralia · Australian major cricket venues
Verification needed · Architecture of Australia · Australian performance poetry · FreeTV Australia · Hindmarsh Island Royal Commission · List of political controversies in Australia · Punk rock in Australia
Quality watch:
come out on the top of Special:Wantedpages, due to how often Here are some tasks you can do to help with WikiProject Australia:
Requests · Ariadne Australia · Awakenings Festival · Drought Force · Electoral reform in Australia · Fossils of Australia · Landforms of Australia · Sculpture of Australia
Articles needing attention · Australian contemporary dance · Crime in Australia · Environment of Australia · Gender inequality in Australia · Privacy in Australian law · Secession in Australia · Tourism in Australia
Images requested · Cheryl Kernot · MV Pacific Adventurer · Poppy King · Rosemary Goldie · James Moore · OneAustralia · Australian major cricket venues
Verification needed · Architecture of Australia · Australian performance poetry · FreeTV Australia · Hindmarsh Island Royal Commission · List of political controversies in Australia · Punk rock in Australia
Quality watch:
is called in {{Template:WP Australia}}.
This has resulted in Azrael (band) being created by a user because if they weren't notable they wouldn't be #2 on the wanted pages list.
Here are some open WikiProject Sydney tasks: | |
Missing: |
Sydney Wildlife World (new zoo),
Cumberland Plain,
Australian Major League Baseball,
North Sydney Institute of TAFE,
Hornsby Plateau, |
Missing Roads: |
Henry Lawson Drive,
Heathcote Road,
Bathurst Street, New South Head Road, Druitt Street |
State Politics: | Expand
Parliament of New South Wales (e.g. a few photos could be good).
|
Expansion: |
Steps needed for getting
Sydney to
Featured Article status. The list of local suburban Sydney newspapers may be missing some.
Georges River articles:
Woronora River,
Cabramatta Creek,
Prospect Creek,
Salt Pan Creek. |
Cleanup LGAs: | Removing suburb redlinks from these councils:
Lane Cove,
Manly,
North Sydney, Parramatta, Pittwater and Pittwater list. |
Education: | Missing
NSW Government Selective Schools (what they are, how they work); Expansion of UWS, ACU, UTS, UNSW, Macquarie, Usyd articles (in roughly that order). |
Rail: | The railway stations need photos!!! Please help -
List of CityRail railway stations- if you can even provide a photo of your local station that would be helpful - ones that need photos are here. Also, CityRail needs expansion - this could be a great featured article in the future with a bit of work. |
Edit or discuss this list. |
is too big to display, so it is rarely used on pages, so the requests on it don't recieve any publicity - so they are not created. Sydney Children's Hospital has been on there for ages, I'm sure it's more notable than Azrael (band)?
Anyway - if we can keep an eye on Here are some tasks you can do to help with WikiProject Australia:
Requests · Ariadne Australia · Awakenings Festival · Drought Force · Electoral reform in Australia · Fossils of Australia · Landforms of Australia · Sculpture of Australia
Articles needing attention · Australian contemporary dance · Crime in Australia · Environment of Australia · Gender inequality in Australia · Privacy in Australian law · Secession in Australia · Tourism in Australia
Images requested · Cheryl Kernot · MV Pacific Adventurer · Poppy King · Rosemary Goldie · James Moore · OneAustralia · Australian major cricket venues
Verification needed · Architecture of Australia · Australian performance poetry · FreeTV Australia · Hindmarsh Island Royal Commission · List of political controversies in Australia · Punk rock in Australia
Quality watch:
and move some requests from
Here are some open WikiProject Sydney tasks: | |
Missing: |
Sydney Wildlife World (new zoo),
Cumberland Plain,
Australian Major League Baseball,
North Sydney Institute of TAFE,
Hornsby Plateau, |
Missing Roads: |
Henry Lawson Drive,
Heathcote Road,
Bathurst Street, New South Head Road, Druitt Street |
State Politics: | Expand
Parliament of New South Wales (e.g. a few photos could be good).
|
Expansion: |
Steps needed for getting
Sydney to
Featured Article status. The list of local suburban Sydney newspapers may be missing some.
Georges River articles:
Woronora River,
Cabramatta Creek,
Prospect Creek,
Salt Pan Creek. |
Cleanup LGAs: | Removing suburb redlinks from these councils:
Lane Cove,
Manly,
North Sydney, Parramatta, Pittwater and Pittwater list. |
Education: | Missing
NSW Government Selective Schools (what they are, how they work); Expansion of UWS, ACU, UTS, UNSW, Macquarie, Usyd articles (in roughly that order). |
Rail: | The railway stations need photos!!! Please help -
List of CityRail railway stations- if you can even provide a photo of your local station that would be helpful - ones that need photos are here. Also, CityRail needs expansion - this could be a great featured article in the future with a bit of work. |
Edit or discuss this list. |
onto the other, more commonly used template, maybe some of the Sydney articles might get created? Even stubs are better than red links, aren't they?-- Ga rr ie 02:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi all....
have all been nominated for deletion. As the author of these pages, I encourage you all to have a look and see what you think, and if you think the pages should stay then please contribute to the discussion (and of course, improve the articles if you wish!). Many thanks, and apologies if this is not the right place to air this issue. Quaidy 12:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I recently checked the colours used for CityRail articles and found they were'nt the correct ones. Here are the correct colours:
Suburban lines
Intercity lines
Regional line
Harryboyles 12:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I checked this against the source code for the CityRail timetable page, and here are the exact codes. The Olympic Park one is far too light to be readable, so I think we should continue to use "grey"; same with the South Line code (should continue to be 99CCFF). These should be the colours used:
Suburban Lines
Intercity lines
Regional line
( JROBBO 08:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC))
I have created a new infobox for rail, bus and t-way lines, Template:Public transport infrastructure in Sydney. It replaces Template:CityRailSydney. As you can see, unlike its previous iterations, there is no provision for this template to be colour-coded to match transit operator marketing material. This is, to say the least, contentious. However, there are sound reasons for keeping Wikipedia coverage of the CityRail network colour consistent.
As you can see, I have selected one colour to highlight titles on a range of Sydney public transport templates. This shade of yellow is composed using the RGB values listed in NSW Ministry of Transport approved pictograms and arrows and thus ties in with the Ministry's overall look and feel for public transport signage in Sydney. I recognise that this change reverses long-standing practice on the CityRail pages. I would ask that anyone who strongly disagrees with the move away from colour-coding here to address the issues outlined above first. Joestella 06:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello! I improve the article about the 2000 Olympics in the german wikipedia ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympische_Sommerspiele_2000) for our writing competition. If you have photos with connection to this thema. I would be very happy, if someone could take a photo of the past olympic village and venues. Julius1990 13:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
I've added photos of Westfield Eastgardens, Westfield Parramatta, Westfield Burwood, Iron Cove Bridge and Burwood Park. I hope these photos are useful. -- Whats new? 07:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello - if anyone is still reading this list, could anyone help add at least one photo to this list ( Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_Sydney)? It seems to be a bit neglected lately. Any help would be great. ( JROBBO 04:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC))
If anyone is interested there is an open day for Kirribilli and Admiralty House on October 29th. It costs money, but it would be fantastic to get some photos (at least outdoor ones if they let you) and info, given that the public can't get anywhere near them normally. Details here. ( JROBBO 06:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC))
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 16:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Yesterday it came to my attention (via Google) that the website for the seven bridges walk [3] had used text from Wikipedia without attribution. I've called the website authors and they have no problems with attribution by linking back to Wikipedia. They were apologetic as the text was provided to them by the RTA. It's quite a complement that the RTA's first port of call for information about their own bridges is Wikipedia! John Dalton 00:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Ga rr ie 09:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Suggestion for a google tool: A robot that spiders wikipedia and uses the text of wikipedia as a basis for google searches. When it finds a match the robot emails the relevant Wikipedia author, informing him or her of the match so they have the choice of following it up John Dalton 00:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I've added this page to help us for railway station photos that we don't have. Some lines are now well covered, others have none. If there's anyone in Western Sydney that could help out with a few photos that would be great.
See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sydney/Railway_stations/Photos. JROBBO 04:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I've been looking at some of the 180-odd articles on railway stations in Sydney. I recognise that these form part of a 5000-article universe of railway stations with their own pages. But I think that most of them are non-notable. Another user has set out draft guidelines on the notability of rail infrastructure, helpfully titled Wikipedia is not a timetable, which can be viewed here and here. I think they deserve serious consideration.
My concerns about the Sydney station articles are as follows:
I would suggest that articles on Sydney railway stations only be included if they can be substantially based on information sourced from credible printed-matter sources—not CityRail, not railway fan websites and certainly not personal observations. If a station can meet this criteria, then detail from other sources could be added. Any other information can go on the railway line pages.
We can argue all day about notability. It's my plan to spend substantial portions of my day doing exactly that. But User:Mangoe makes a compelling call for self-regulation: "If we create serious and brilliant articles then more editors will be encouraged to create more and more such articles. If we create trivia then more and more editors will be encouraged to create more and more trivia." Joestella 02:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know the origin of the names of the Lady class Sydney Ferries vessels (Lady Herron and Lady Northcott)? Also, how best to include the names of now-decommissioned Sydney Ferries? Joestella 04:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
At present, Greater Sydney has 11 articles on bus regions, plus one for NightRide. User:Matt ke makes the quite reasonable point that the titles are a bit crap, even if the content is OK (or at least promising). The problem is finding a naming scheme that, ideally, has explicit or implied official endorsement. While 100 series bus routes, Sydney could easily be renamed Northern Beaches bus routes, Sydney, 400 and above are a bit more challenging. I'm reluctant to name some using region names and leave Western Sydney defined only by numbers. It would suggest that Western Sydney is an undifferentiated mass, when it is in fact a diverse region encompassing about half of Sydney by population and even more by area. Thoughts? Joestella 18:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
The L, E and X series buses shouldn't be separated out. X00 belongs to the 500 series, L94 belongs to the 300 series and so on. They do not represent a separate series.
Reclassifying by Metropolitan Bus Region would be ideal, but we need to bear the following things in mind:
GarrieIrons, the best features of the Buses in Sydney page were what exactly..? Joestella 08:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
It sounds like some debate should have occurred before the rolled up tables were removed and expanded into separate pages (coming from someone who put a fair bit of work into the rolled-up tables). Quaidy 11:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
The new articles contain more, and more encyclopaedic information: detailing (where available) historical and infrastructure information. Having an enormous list of bus routes and the depots from which they currently operate could be considered operational-level directory information, which is outside of Wikipedia's scope. Joestella 20:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
While Joestella has done some good work on Public transport in metropolitan New South Wales, I am wondering whether we also (that's in addition - I don't want to replace the abovementioned page at all) need a page on public transport within the Sydney metro area? - after all, people will be linking to such a page from the Sydney page and other related ones, and they will want to read about what public transport services Sydney offers, not about the bus routes in Newcastle &c (as interesting as they might be, and as appropriate as they are for the metropolitan New South Wales article that Joestella has written). While there are links between the two, eg. with the CityRail network and the link between Sydney Buses & Newcastle Buses and Ferries, the public transport situations between the Sydney basin and greater Sydney (deemed "metropolitan New South Wales" here) are quite different, and Wollongong and Newcastle may deserve their own public transport articles altogether. JROBBO 09:01, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Duplication is, in my view, an excellent reason not to have an article. See the Wollongong and Newcastle transport sections (which I've just edited) to see why a "Public transport in city" page need not be created. The only organisations creating "official" boundaries for public transport in NSW are RailCorp and the MoT, and they just divide NSW into CityRail/metropolitan and CountryLink/regional. I think we should follow suit. You know what would change my mind though? New and compelling content, such that Public transport in metropolitan New South Wales runneth over. Joestella 09:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
The above schema ignores two important considerations. First, the information should cascade. Second, we can develop any number of levels for the information.
Duplicating information across articles is not a substitute for research. Nor is repurposing content from transit operator websites, which seems to account for a lot of the work being done on these pages. Joestella 12:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I would ask that you retract the implication that I put all my energies into deleting certain articles. I spend most of my time here adding content, as you are well aware. I don't buy your matyrdom argument - why not add to existing general articles rather than creating and abandoning hundreds of stubs? And since we (now) agree that we cannot have an article at every 'level', as in my example above, it's a question of where content is available to create specific articles further down the cascade. You bring the sourced, notable content, and you can create whatever article you like. Joestella 14:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone here live or go near the Royal National Park? I'm in the process of trying to fix up the Illawarra Line related articles, and it would be good to have some info and pictures of the old National Park branch as that would add a lot to the article. Just one photo of the old station would be fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. JROBBO 02:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Movieguy46 has moved "Kings Cross, New South Wales" to Kings Cross Sydney. His reasoning on Talk:Kings Cross Sydney is "that the most common search is for Kings Cross Sydney". I would have thought it doesn't matter about search results, that there should be a naming convention we should follow ie place name then state. Or for a feature/locality, place name then city ie Hyde Park, Sydney. Nomadtales 11:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi everyone - I'm having Eastern Suburbs & Illawarra railway line, Sydney peer reviewed at the moment, with the hope that it could reach FA status quite soon (or GA status if it didn't get to that). This would only be the second Sydney-related article to become FA standard if it passed (the first is Sydney Roosters). However, before that happens, I'd appreciate some comments on the article if you have any suggestions. The peer review is here. Thanks. JROBBO 09:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The article Carlingford Court has been nominated for deletion on the grounds "No assertion of notability". If you have an opinion on either direction on this article, please feel free to contribute to the debate at the above link. Orderinchaos 13:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Image:Cooks_River1.gif and Image:Cooks_River2.gif, which I noticed in the IfD discussions, seem to be quite nice pictures with GFDL licences that may be useful in illustrating a suburb - however, being from the other side of our fair land, I have no idea which one. If anyone can find a home for them that would be great. Orderinchaos 16:49, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Very similarly named images to these pictures are already on Cooks River - Image:CooksRiver2.jpg and Image:CooksRiver1.jpg. So these are copies of pictures we already have. They should be deleted. But good on you for bringing it to our attention! Ga rr ie 23:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
The Project page was looking a little tired and was a bit out of date, so I've updated it with a new layout. If you have any suggestions on further content, let me know. JROBBO 03:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Template:Cityrail Station has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. -- Harryboyles 06:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The Parramatta-Rouse Hill section of the North-West T-Way is opening on March 10; there's free rides on the Saturday on the section. It would be a great chance to get some photos of the T-Way; if anyone's keen they can visit the Parramatta-Liverpool T-Way and get some photos of that while they're at it (although it's not free). Anyone up for it? JRG 09:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone read this page any more or do people just like ignoring my posts? :-) JRG, 12:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm new to this project. :) I've gone about madly submitting photos for various (greater) Sydney suburbs today including Bowenfels, Port Kembla, Prospect, Bundanoon, Queens Park, Dover Heights, Camellia, Nelson Bay, Breakfast Point, Otford, Wollongong, Stockton, Mount Sugarloaf, Waverton, Port Botany/La Perouse, Balmain East, Little Bay, Centennial Park Mount Canobolas, Ulladulla, Oberon, RIverstone, Wolli Creek, JBT, Mount Annan, Winmalee and Lavender Bay... But I've come across some suburbs/towns where the infobox has a map specified as the suburb/town's image, e.g. Kiama. My question is, if an image is available to be uploaded, should that spot be filled by an image or a map? Thanks Wyp 12:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
The article Central West (Sydney) was recently created, and linked to from Sydney and {{ Sydney regions}}. I have expressed my concerns about the accuracy of the content and indeed the notability of this regional identity at Talk:Central West (Sydney) - more input would be appreciated. JPD ( talk) 09:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I have created the page, New South Head Road, Sydney as per suggestion, though my knowledge of the road is limited, the article has been tagged for deletion, if anyone has a good knowledge of the road I encourage them to contribute to the article. Bandwagonman 15:28, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
It was only proded - I removed the prod, I will add some categories. Ga rr ie 22:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I have taken a photo of the Sydney Harbour Tunnel and will get one of the ASX soon, regarding the Lane Cove Tunnel I tried to get a picture yesterday but the angle isn't ideal from the Pacific Highway does anyone ever use Reserve Road I think it is as it offers a good view of the tunnel, if anyone does it would help if you could take the photo whenever possible. Bandwagonman 11:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
If anyone lives outside of Sydney along the main railway lines, I now have a list of photos of the CityRail network stations with and without photos. Any help (even one photo) would be immensely helpful. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Sydney/Railway stations/Photos and scroll to the Intercity section. We're especially in need of photos in the Lower Blue Mountains, and the Shoalhaven/Illawarra area. Thanks. JRG 08:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the WikiProject Sydney's Sydney Explorer page: as written it currently fails WP:CORP as the article doesn't establish how Sydney Explorer is notable for inclusion in an encyclopedia. I thought I'd throw this out to the project people first to see if it could be rewritten, rather than simply nominate the article for deletion as a non-notable promotional/advertisement insertion. SpikeJones 18:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
It probably would be a good idea to delete this article, I have actually taken the main paragraph from the Sydney Explorer page and added that to atleast 2 other articles, with {{Main|Sydney Explorer}} at the top of the section.-- AdamJWC 03:19, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I have added a "{{
prod}}" template to the article
Brian Wood (rugby player), suggesting that it be deleted according to the
proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "
What Wikipedia is not" and
Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on
its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the
proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the
speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to
Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached.
So much for the boilerplate. This is actually typed in by a human. I know squat about rugby and my memories of Sydney, though pleasant, are hazy and certainly don't include anything related to sport. Maybe I'm all wrong about this. -- Hoary 08:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Sydney_Bypass#Bypass outside the Sydney Basin Has a reference but it is written and webhosted by the page's creator and only contributor.. 129.31.72.52 01:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
This was reported this morning on Nova 96.9 8:00am / 8:30 am news. Does anyone have a better reference (ie press / web) I can use at Westbus, Willmot, New South Wales and [Public transport in metropolitan New South Wales]]? I think a series of attacks by someone leading to them using an improvised explosive device is worth covering. It has been covered while it was "only" rock-throwing in the Mt Druitt - St Marys Standard but at that stage I didn't see it as worth including - it is fairly mainstream vandalism even if it is at a significant level. Ga rr ie 00:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
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This website's full of information on Sydney's suburbs. Don't know how accurate it is though. Maybe someone with enough time and energy can syphon it into Wikipedia in some way or another. Also, copyright issues may need to be considered. [1] -- Jasabella 10:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering, is the sydneysuburbsbox2 really neccessary (it's on a lot of the canterbury LGA suburbs and more)? The more I look at the box, the more I think that it doesn't fit in. Is there a discussion page on this somewhere? Aside from relevance, I'm also questioning what suburbs get put into those boxes (e.g. what defines 'near'?) and where we're getting the "this suburb is south-east of this one" info from? Do we have our own little map that we're using as an authority on this to make it easier to do this? Bringing this up because the first time I saw the one for Lakemba, New South Wales I didn't think it was correct. Mentioned this in Talk:Lakemba, New South Wales but I don't think there's much discussion going on there. Blu3d 16:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Throughout The 2001 City of Blacktown Social Plan they refer to the "Sydney SD" being the Sydney Statistical Division. Is this "the same as" the Sydney greater metropolitan area? Is there a preferred phrase for that "area", and how far does it extend? is it
or does nobody really care? -- Ga rr ie 04:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
With regard to WP: Sydney, is the "scope" "any article related to any topic which is within any of the suburbs listed as being suburbs of Sydney"? There seem to be "a few" definitions of what is "in/not in" "Sydney", I am trying to go through shopping centres - there were a lot of Sydney ones straight in Category:Shopping centres in Australia, I have created Category:Shopping centres in New South Wales & Category:Shopping centres in Sydney - but are
in Sydney, or New South Wales? (yeah, that list is facetious but lets see who draws the line where!) -- Ga rr ie 01:25, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Articles listed on Here are some tasks you can do to help with WikiProject Australia:
Requests · Ariadne Australia · Awakenings Festival · Drought Force · Electoral reform in Australia · Fossils of Australia · Landforms of Australia · Sculpture of Australia
Articles needing attention · Australian contemporary dance · Crime in Australia · Environment of Australia · Gender inequality in Australia · Privacy in Australian law · Secession in Australia · Tourism in Australia
Images requested · Cheryl Kernot · MV Pacific Adventurer · Poppy King · Rosemary Goldie · James Moore · OneAustralia · Australian major cricket venues
Verification needed · Architecture of Australia · Australian performance poetry · FreeTV Australia · Hindmarsh Island Royal Commission · List of political controversies in Australia · Punk rock in Australia
Quality watch:
come out on the top of Special:Wantedpages, due to how often Here are some tasks you can do to help with WikiProject Australia:
Requests · Ariadne Australia · Awakenings Festival · Drought Force · Electoral reform in Australia · Fossils of Australia · Landforms of Australia · Sculpture of Australia
Articles needing attention · Australian contemporary dance · Crime in Australia · Environment of Australia · Gender inequality in Australia · Privacy in Australian law · Secession in Australia · Tourism in Australia
Images requested · Cheryl Kernot · MV Pacific Adventurer · Poppy King · Rosemary Goldie · James Moore · OneAustralia · Australian major cricket venues
Verification needed · Architecture of Australia · Australian performance poetry · FreeTV Australia · Hindmarsh Island Royal Commission · List of political controversies in Australia · Punk rock in Australia
Quality watch:
is called in {{Template:WP Australia}}.
This has resulted in Azrael (band) being created by a user because if they weren't notable they wouldn't be #2 on the wanted pages list.
Here are some open WikiProject Sydney tasks: | |
Missing: |
Sydney Wildlife World (new zoo),
Cumberland Plain,
Australian Major League Baseball,
North Sydney Institute of TAFE,
Hornsby Plateau, |
Missing Roads: |
Henry Lawson Drive,
Heathcote Road,
Bathurst Street, New South Head Road, Druitt Street |
State Politics: | Expand
Parliament of New South Wales (e.g. a few photos could be good).
|
Expansion: |
Steps needed for getting
Sydney to
Featured Article status. The list of local suburban Sydney newspapers may be missing some.
Georges River articles:
Woronora River,
Cabramatta Creek,
Prospect Creek,
Salt Pan Creek. |
Cleanup LGAs: | Removing suburb redlinks from these councils:
Lane Cove,
Manly,
North Sydney, Parramatta, Pittwater and Pittwater list. |
Education: | Missing
NSW Government Selective Schools (what they are, how they work); Expansion of UWS, ACU, UTS, UNSW, Macquarie, Usyd articles (in roughly that order). |
Rail: | The railway stations need photos!!! Please help -
List of CityRail railway stations- if you can even provide a photo of your local station that would be helpful - ones that need photos are here. Also, CityRail needs expansion - this could be a great featured article in the future with a bit of work. |
Edit or discuss this list. |
is too big to display, so it is rarely used on pages, so the requests on it don't recieve any publicity - so they are not created. Sydney Children's Hospital has been on there for ages, I'm sure it's more notable than Azrael (band)?
Anyway - if we can keep an eye on Here are some tasks you can do to help with WikiProject Australia:
Requests · Ariadne Australia · Awakenings Festival · Drought Force · Electoral reform in Australia · Fossils of Australia · Landforms of Australia · Sculpture of Australia
Articles needing attention · Australian contemporary dance · Crime in Australia · Environment of Australia · Gender inequality in Australia · Privacy in Australian law · Secession in Australia · Tourism in Australia
Images requested · Cheryl Kernot · MV Pacific Adventurer · Poppy King · Rosemary Goldie · James Moore · OneAustralia · Australian major cricket venues
Verification needed · Architecture of Australia · Australian performance poetry · FreeTV Australia · Hindmarsh Island Royal Commission · List of political controversies in Australia · Punk rock in Australia
Quality watch:
and move some requests from
Here are some open WikiProject Sydney tasks: | |
Missing: |
Sydney Wildlife World (new zoo),
Cumberland Plain,
Australian Major League Baseball,
North Sydney Institute of TAFE,
Hornsby Plateau, |
Missing Roads: |
Henry Lawson Drive,
Heathcote Road,
Bathurst Street, New South Head Road, Druitt Street |
State Politics: | Expand
Parliament of New South Wales (e.g. a few photos could be good).
|
Expansion: |
Steps needed for getting
Sydney to
Featured Article status. The list of local suburban Sydney newspapers may be missing some.
Georges River articles:
Woronora River,
Cabramatta Creek,
Prospect Creek,
Salt Pan Creek. |
Cleanup LGAs: | Removing suburb redlinks from these councils:
Lane Cove,
Manly,
North Sydney, Parramatta, Pittwater and Pittwater list. |
Education: | Missing
NSW Government Selective Schools (what they are, how they work); Expansion of UWS, ACU, UTS, UNSW, Macquarie, Usyd articles (in roughly that order). |
Rail: | The railway stations need photos!!! Please help -
List of CityRail railway stations- if you can even provide a photo of your local station that would be helpful - ones that need photos are here. Also, CityRail needs expansion - this could be a great featured article in the future with a bit of work. |
Edit or discuss this list. |
onto the other, more commonly used template, maybe some of the Sydney articles might get created? Even stubs are better than red links, aren't they?-- Ga rr ie 02:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi all....
have all been nominated for deletion. As the author of these pages, I encourage you all to have a look and see what you think, and if you think the pages should stay then please contribute to the discussion (and of course, improve the articles if you wish!). Many thanks, and apologies if this is not the right place to air this issue. Quaidy 12:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I recently checked the colours used for CityRail articles and found they were'nt the correct ones. Here are the correct colours:
Suburban lines
Intercity lines
Regional line
Harryboyles 12:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
I checked this against the source code for the CityRail timetable page, and here are the exact codes. The Olympic Park one is far too light to be readable, so I think we should continue to use "grey"; same with the South Line code (should continue to be 99CCFF). These should be the colours used:
Suburban Lines
Intercity lines
Regional line
( JROBBO 08:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC))
I have created a new infobox for rail, bus and t-way lines, Template:Public transport infrastructure in Sydney. It replaces Template:CityRailSydney. As you can see, unlike its previous iterations, there is no provision for this template to be colour-coded to match transit operator marketing material. This is, to say the least, contentious. However, there are sound reasons for keeping Wikipedia coverage of the CityRail network colour consistent.
As you can see, I have selected one colour to highlight titles on a range of Sydney public transport templates. This shade of yellow is composed using the RGB values listed in NSW Ministry of Transport approved pictograms and arrows and thus ties in with the Ministry's overall look and feel for public transport signage in Sydney. I recognise that this change reverses long-standing practice on the CityRail pages. I would ask that anyone who strongly disagrees with the move away from colour-coding here to address the issues outlined above first. Joestella 06:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello! I improve the article about the 2000 Olympics in the german wikipedia ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympische_Sommerspiele_2000) for our writing competition. If you have photos with connection to this thema. I would be very happy, if someone could take a photo of the past olympic village and venues. Julius1990 13:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
I've added photos of Westfield Eastgardens, Westfield Parramatta, Westfield Burwood, Iron Cove Bridge and Burwood Park. I hope these photos are useful. -- Whats new? 07:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello - if anyone is still reading this list, could anyone help add at least one photo to this list ( Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_Sydney)? It seems to be a bit neglected lately. Any help would be great. ( JROBBO 04:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC))
If anyone is interested there is an open day for Kirribilli and Admiralty House on October 29th. It costs money, but it would be fantastic to get some photos (at least outdoor ones if they let you) and info, given that the public can't get anywhere near them normally. Details here. ( JROBBO 06:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC))
Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 16:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Yesterday it came to my attention (via Google) that the website for the seven bridges walk [3] had used text from Wikipedia without attribution. I've called the website authors and they have no problems with attribution by linking back to Wikipedia. They were apologetic as the text was provided to them by the RTA. It's quite a complement that the RTA's first port of call for information about their own bridges is Wikipedia! John Dalton 00:27, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Ga rr ie 09:23, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Suggestion for a google tool: A robot that spiders wikipedia and uses the text of wikipedia as a basis for google searches. When it finds a match the robot emails the relevant Wikipedia author, informing him or her of the match so they have the choice of following it up John Dalton 00:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
I've added this page to help us for railway station photos that we don't have. Some lines are now well covered, others have none. If there's anyone in Western Sydney that could help out with a few photos that would be great.
See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sydney/Railway_stations/Photos. JROBBO 04:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I've been looking at some of the 180-odd articles on railway stations in Sydney. I recognise that these form part of a 5000-article universe of railway stations with their own pages. But I think that most of them are non-notable. Another user has set out draft guidelines on the notability of rail infrastructure, helpfully titled Wikipedia is not a timetable, which can be viewed here and here. I think they deserve serious consideration.
My concerns about the Sydney station articles are as follows:
I would suggest that articles on Sydney railway stations only be included if they can be substantially based on information sourced from credible printed-matter sources—not CityRail, not railway fan websites and certainly not personal observations. If a station can meet this criteria, then detail from other sources could be added. Any other information can go on the railway line pages.
We can argue all day about notability. It's my plan to spend substantial portions of my day doing exactly that. But User:Mangoe makes a compelling call for self-regulation: "If we create serious and brilliant articles then more editors will be encouraged to create more and more such articles. If we create trivia then more and more editors will be encouraged to create more and more trivia." Joestella 02:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know the origin of the names of the Lady class Sydney Ferries vessels (Lady Herron and Lady Northcott)? Also, how best to include the names of now-decommissioned Sydney Ferries? Joestella 04:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
At present, Greater Sydney has 11 articles on bus regions, plus one for NightRide. User:Matt ke makes the quite reasonable point that the titles are a bit crap, even if the content is OK (or at least promising). The problem is finding a naming scheme that, ideally, has explicit or implied official endorsement. While 100 series bus routes, Sydney could easily be renamed Northern Beaches bus routes, Sydney, 400 and above are a bit more challenging. I'm reluctant to name some using region names and leave Western Sydney defined only by numbers. It would suggest that Western Sydney is an undifferentiated mass, when it is in fact a diverse region encompassing about half of Sydney by population and even more by area. Thoughts? Joestella 18:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
The L, E and X series buses shouldn't be separated out. X00 belongs to the 500 series, L94 belongs to the 300 series and so on. They do not represent a separate series.
Reclassifying by Metropolitan Bus Region would be ideal, but we need to bear the following things in mind:
GarrieIrons, the best features of the Buses in Sydney page were what exactly..? Joestella 08:53, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
It sounds like some debate should have occurred before the rolled up tables were removed and expanded into separate pages (coming from someone who put a fair bit of work into the rolled-up tables). Quaidy 11:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
The new articles contain more, and more encyclopaedic information: detailing (where available) historical and infrastructure information. Having an enormous list of bus routes and the depots from which they currently operate could be considered operational-level directory information, which is outside of Wikipedia's scope. Joestella 20:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
While Joestella has done some good work on Public transport in metropolitan New South Wales, I am wondering whether we also (that's in addition - I don't want to replace the abovementioned page at all) need a page on public transport within the Sydney metro area? - after all, people will be linking to such a page from the Sydney page and other related ones, and they will want to read about what public transport services Sydney offers, not about the bus routes in Newcastle &c (as interesting as they might be, and as appropriate as they are for the metropolitan New South Wales article that Joestella has written). While there are links between the two, eg. with the CityRail network and the link between Sydney Buses & Newcastle Buses and Ferries, the public transport situations between the Sydney basin and greater Sydney (deemed "metropolitan New South Wales" here) are quite different, and Wollongong and Newcastle may deserve their own public transport articles altogether. JROBBO 09:01, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Duplication is, in my view, an excellent reason not to have an article. See the Wollongong and Newcastle transport sections (which I've just edited) to see why a "Public transport in city" page need not be created. The only organisations creating "official" boundaries for public transport in NSW are RailCorp and the MoT, and they just divide NSW into CityRail/metropolitan and CountryLink/regional. I think we should follow suit. You know what would change my mind though? New and compelling content, such that Public transport in metropolitan New South Wales runneth over. Joestella 09:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
The above schema ignores two important considerations. First, the information should cascade. Second, we can develop any number of levels for the information.
Duplicating information across articles is not a substitute for research. Nor is repurposing content from transit operator websites, which seems to account for a lot of the work being done on these pages. Joestella 12:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I would ask that you retract the implication that I put all my energies into deleting certain articles. I spend most of my time here adding content, as you are well aware. I don't buy your matyrdom argument - why not add to existing general articles rather than creating and abandoning hundreds of stubs? And since we (now) agree that we cannot have an article at every 'level', as in my example above, it's a question of where content is available to create specific articles further down the cascade. You bring the sourced, notable content, and you can create whatever article you like. Joestella 14:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone here live or go near the Royal National Park? I'm in the process of trying to fix up the Illawarra Line related articles, and it would be good to have some info and pictures of the old National Park branch as that would add a lot to the article. Just one photo of the old station would be fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. JROBBO 02:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Movieguy46 has moved "Kings Cross, New South Wales" to Kings Cross Sydney. His reasoning on Talk:Kings Cross Sydney is "that the most common search is for Kings Cross Sydney". I would have thought it doesn't matter about search results, that there should be a naming convention we should follow ie place name then state. Or for a feature/locality, place name then city ie Hyde Park, Sydney. Nomadtales 11:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi everyone - I'm having Eastern Suburbs & Illawarra railway line, Sydney peer reviewed at the moment, with the hope that it could reach FA status quite soon (or GA status if it didn't get to that). This would only be the second Sydney-related article to become FA standard if it passed (the first is Sydney Roosters). However, before that happens, I'd appreciate some comments on the article if you have any suggestions. The peer review is here. Thanks. JROBBO 09:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The article Carlingford Court has been nominated for deletion on the grounds "No assertion of notability". If you have an opinion on either direction on this article, please feel free to contribute to the debate at the above link. Orderinchaos 13:23, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Image:Cooks_River1.gif and Image:Cooks_River2.gif, which I noticed in the IfD discussions, seem to be quite nice pictures with GFDL licences that may be useful in illustrating a suburb - however, being from the other side of our fair land, I have no idea which one. If anyone can find a home for them that would be great. Orderinchaos 16:49, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Very similarly named images to these pictures are already on Cooks River - Image:CooksRiver2.jpg and Image:CooksRiver1.jpg. So these are copies of pictures we already have. They should be deleted. But good on you for bringing it to our attention! Ga rr ie 23:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
The Project page was looking a little tired and was a bit out of date, so I've updated it with a new layout. If you have any suggestions on further content, let me know. JROBBO 03:15, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Template:Cityrail Station has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. -- Harryboyles 06:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
The Parramatta-Rouse Hill section of the North-West T-Way is opening on March 10; there's free rides on the Saturday on the section. It would be a great chance to get some photos of the T-Way; if anyone's keen they can visit the Parramatta-Liverpool T-Way and get some photos of that while they're at it (although it's not free). Anyone up for it? JRG 09:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone read this page any more or do people just like ignoring my posts? :-) JRG, 12:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi all, I'm new to this project. :) I've gone about madly submitting photos for various (greater) Sydney suburbs today including Bowenfels, Port Kembla, Prospect, Bundanoon, Queens Park, Dover Heights, Camellia, Nelson Bay, Breakfast Point, Otford, Wollongong, Stockton, Mount Sugarloaf, Waverton, Port Botany/La Perouse, Balmain East, Little Bay, Centennial Park Mount Canobolas, Ulladulla, Oberon, RIverstone, Wolli Creek, JBT, Mount Annan, Winmalee and Lavender Bay... But I've come across some suburbs/towns where the infobox has a map specified as the suburb/town's image, e.g. Kiama. My question is, if an image is available to be uploaded, should that spot be filled by an image or a map? Thanks Wyp 12:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
The article Central West (Sydney) was recently created, and linked to from Sydney and {{ Sydney regions}}. I have expressed my concerns about the accuracy of the content and indeed the notability of this regional identity at Talk:Central West (Sydney) - more input would be appreciated. JPD ( talk) 09:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I have created the page, New South Head Road, Sydney as per suggestion, though my knowledge of the road is limited, the article has been tagged for deletion, if anyone has a good knowledge of the road I encourage them to contribute to the article. Bandwagonman 15:28, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
It was only proded - I removed the prod, I will add some categories. Ga rr ie 22:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I have taken a photo of the Sydney Harbour Tunnel and will get one of the ASX soon, regarding the Lane Cove Tunnel I tried to get a picture yesterday but the angle isn't ideal from the Pacific Highway does anyone ever use Reserve Road I think it is as it offers a good view of the tunnel, if anyone does it would help if you could take the photo whenever possible. Bandwagonman 11:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
If anyone lives outside of Sydney along the main railway lines, I now have a list of photos of the CityRail network stations with and without photos. Any help (even one photo) would be immensely helpful. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Sydney/Railway stations/Photos and scroll to the Intercity section. We're especially in need of photos in the Lower Blue Mountains, and the Shoalhaven/Illawarra area. Thanks. JRG 08:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the WikiProject Sydney's Sydney Explorer page: as written it currently fails WP:CORP as the article doesn't establish how Sydney Explorer is notable for inclusion in an encyclopedia. I thought I'd throw this out to the project people first to see if it could be rewritten, rather than simply nominate the article for deletion as a non-notable promotional/advertisement insertion. SpikeJones 18:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
It probably would be a good idea to delete this article, I have actually taken the main paragraph from the Sydney Explorer page and added that to atleast 2 other articles, with {{Main|Sydney Explorer}} at the top of the section.-- AdamJWC 03:19, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I have added a "{{
prod}}" template to the article
Brian Wood (rugby player), suggesting that it be deleted according to the
proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "
What Wikipedia is not" and
Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on
its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the
proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the
speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to
Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached.
So much for the boilerplate. This is actually typed in by a human. I know squat about rugby and my memories of Sydney, though pleasant, are hazy and certainly don't include anything related to sport. Maybe I'm all wrong about this. -- Hoary 08:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Sydney_Bypass#Bypass outside the Sydney Basin Has a reference but it is written and webhosted by the page's creator and only contributor.. 129.31.72.52 01:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
This was reported this morning on Nova 96.9 8:00am / 8:30 am news. Does anyone have a better reference (ie press / web) I can use at Westbus, Willmot, New South Wales and [Public transport in metropolitan New South Wales]]? I think a series of attacks by someone leading to them using an improvised explosive device is worth covering. It has been covered while it was "only" rock-throwing in the Mt Druitt - St Marys Standard but at that stage I didn't see it as worth including - it is fairly mainstream vandalism even if it is at a significant level. Ga rr ie 00:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)