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Now that Final Fantasys 1-12 are all GA or FA, I think it's time to look at resurrecting the Final Fantasy titles featured topic. As per this discussion, it looks like we're going to need List of Final Fantasy media, our former featured list, to get back up to FL to be the lead article of the topic. I've started taking a look at it, and the thing it needs most of all is a bunch of citations, but I'd really appreciate it if some of you guys could take a look at it and make suggestions. Thanks! -- Pres N 17:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
I have nominated Characters of Kingdom Hearts for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. GamerPro64 ( talk) 02:49, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
The link is here. GamerPro64 ( talk) 02:59, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
the article is written in a in-universe style. for example, yensids tower/mysterious tower, is really focusing on one title instead of mentioning the change by series.
same with Radiant/Garden and Land of Departure/Castle oblivion. they all follow fictional chronology which makes it in-universe. it would be great if someone could help me on this. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:09, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
About a year ago, I said some pretty harsh things — mainly about Wikipedia and its projects "losing their way" and whatnot. The typical thing most Wikipedians of 4-5 years go through. I was growing extremely frustrated with the project, though I've now had plenty of time away from it. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Anyway, I'll be poking around more often, most likely. I guess you could call me the "wise old sage", so feel free to come to me with questions. — Deck iller 19:52, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Sorry if I seemed aggressive the other day. Considering the direction of Wikipedia, I think those merges are nice ideas. — Deck iller 16:26, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
WIkia does not meet EL even if one article has to be "de-wikify", it's much more than mirror. WIkia hardly ever meets EL, in fact hardly any wiki ever met the right requirements. Also, FFXV just an idea, nothing has been confirmed it's only small quotes and vague answers, but nothing has confirmed that ffXV will exist. there only ideas. we need more. and yes we need to confirm information. it doesnt have to be true though, it just has to be verifiable. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Articles like Final Fantasy use a timeline which Dragon Quest attempted to copy and that coding came under fire by User:AnOddName because it lacks some important FA requirements. 陣 内 Jinnai 01:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
1986 – | – Dragon Warrior | |
1987 – | – Dragon Warrior II | |
1988 – | – Dragon Warrior III | |
1989 – | ||
1990 – | – Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen | |
1991 – | ||
1992 – | – Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride | |
1993 – | ||
1994 – | ||
1995 – | – Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Reverie | |
1996 – | ||
1997 – | ||
1998 – | ||
1999 – | ||
2000 – | – Dragon Warrior VII | |
2001 – | ||
2002 – | ||
2003 – | ||
2004 – | – Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King | |
2005 – | ||
2006 – | ||
2007 – | ||
2008 – | ||
2009 – | – Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies |
I noticed some person created the FFXV page, and although the page does contain sources, some of it is simply using too much elaboration on the sources. It seems to be violating WP:FUTURE to a very high extend. Someone used a translating machine to create the Chinese, Japanese and Spanish page based on this one as well, and the Chinese and Japanese pages are currently undergoing AfD(did not check the Spanish) —Preceding signed comment added by MythSearcher talk 06:48, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to have to agree with Mythsearcher on this one. Plus, i find some of the sources there very questionable. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:59, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Until we get an official confirmation that it will exist, or that it's in production, then i suggest the article not exist for the time being>16:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
DQ X was formally announced, so not as big as an issue as ffXV. still it's a very small article. Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Both articles need to be merged into their series pages discussing the future of the series. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 19:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
It is speculation if a source have not mentioned FFXV but is included to support a claim of prompted some media outlets to wonder about the implications for Final Fantasy XV and a bunch of we don't know this, we don't know that statements in the staff section is speculation. —Preceding signed comment added by MythSearcher talk 14:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Jonathan Hardin, he's not being an "ass". his comment was completely neutral. anyways, i think we all have an agreement now? or does someone else still oppose. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
if we were to keep the information, it would be to no use when FFXV game actually does exist. it wouldn't be important to the article and only be removed when the article becomes made. A speedy deletion wouldn't be so bad, especially form the information is so vague. i doubt it can holdit's own section in the ff franchise article Bread Ninja ( talk) 21:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Very well then, please place an afd on the article. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
A merge tag was added to Dragon Quest a while ago and I'm just wondering if there is any consensus on the issue. The series article is/was/kind of going through FAC, and the merge needs to be resolved before it can get passed. In my opinion, the articles should not be merged (mostly because a Future section would be problematic and the DQ X article will just be recreated in a month or two anyway). Ideas? ? EVAUNIT 神になった人間 17:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I have located these legit Twitter pages from Square Enix developers and would like to know if it's okay to link them in external links sections, especially when there's nothing else to link to:
Jonathan Hardin' ( talk) 14:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
i dont think so....it's like youtube, many companies have there own youtube pages to promote there stuff, but it's not really something as external link appropriate. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi! The Final Fantasy XIII article claims that Sazh was based on Lionel Richie, citing a summary from IGN. But I'm pretty sure this is just a "joke" that started on messageboards. I don't think Richie's name was ever mentioned in Famitsu or developers' interviews. Should this be removed? Megata Sanshiro ( talk) 11:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
An editor has reverted the merge of Final Fantasy character classes, saying that the proper procedure was not followed. Please see the discussion they have started here. -- Pres N 16:11, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Minigames of Final Fantasy actually, i feel Minigames should be merged with all the respected articles it mentions. it's difficult to merge an article of examples to gameplay. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:49, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I think Final Fantasy gameplay itself could be streamlined and merged with Final Fantasy. If the gameplay article was focused on the common elements of the series rather than listing every characteristic of every installment, it would be much shorter and would fit well in the main article. Megata Sanshiro ( talk) 10:56, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
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Vaan and Balthier were created last fall as forks from Characters of Final Fantasy XII (GA) I've been notified that they should have been added to the "Final Fantasy XII" topic a few months ago, so it is in danger of being demoted. There are a few options as to what we can do about this:
Thoughts? I'm in favor of merging, personally. -- Pres N 18:49, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Per a suggestion when I was working on List of Final Fantasy media a while ago, I'm trying to split out a "list of Final Fantasy video games" at User:PresN/LoFFVG. I've worked down through about FF11, and I'm looking for opinions on the format that I'm using. I'm putting in all of the different releases of each game- does the way I'm doing it work? Thanks! -- Pres N 16:30, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Looks a bit complicated, i forget, but what's PAL region? Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
{{
VGtitle}}
for the list. I think it'll display the information about the ports/re-releases better. The first "Video games" heading is not necessary because the title will give that information. Because of that, all the headings can move up a level: 3 → 2 and 4 → 3. Also, I'd split the games up by series and use those as headings, this should prevent entries appearing more than once.{{
Video game table}}
and {{
Video game table item}}
. --
Pres
N
19:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Hey, it's been a week, and though I've gotten a bunch of comments and sorted out their issues, the nomination hasn't gotten any votes. Would you guys mind stopping by and giving your opinion? Thanks! -- Pres N 16:33, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Unless i am mistaken, the Final Fantasy series seems to be missing an article that would cover one of the biggest themes and certainly is\are involved in the plots of most of the games. The summoned creatures. Simply south (talk) 21:32, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I am considering a Good Article (or a Featured Article) push on the Final Fantasy XIII article. I think the lead section needs to be in three paragraphs. Any comments or suggestions you might have to help make this to either a Good Article or a Featured Article? Thanks in advance. Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 04:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
The article is constantly getting edited, and although it does seem to be good for GA, i think we should wait until it cools down a bit. that's just me, i think it's ready but i also think the characters article can be split so that more information can be added. Plus it looks a little long. other than that I'm sure there are a few things to fix Bread Ninja ( talk) 04:14, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
At User:Teggles' request, I scanned ten pages related to Final Fantasy VIII from some 1999 Game Informers. Just letting you all know in case there's some usable information in them of benefit to the article. Cheers. sesu prime 04:15, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Trying to track this little bit down to get it translated by a friend of mine, but it seems like every uploaded copy of the soundtrack is lacking the interviews. In a nutshell, SaGa's 20th Anni OST came with an additional 21st disk that had interviews with all the musicians behind the series. Does anyone here happen to have a copy of it? It's probably the only dev info if any we'd get for SaGa 3 in the long run as a result.
And yeah like I said, this is a longshot, especially given the going price for the set is $250.-- Kung Fu Man ( talk) 02:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Heads up that a prod was placed and removed by me and there might be an AfD. 陣 内 Jinnai 21:19, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, I've opened up a peer review of this list here, if you want to make any comments. Hopefully, it's good enough for FL again. Thanks, Axem Titanium ( talk) 16:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
FYI- Axem found an online version of a lengthy Edge article about the Final Fantasy series. I'm sure there's snippets of usable content for the individual FF articles. Those interested, here's the citation code:
( Guyinblack25 talk 14:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC))
Template:Final Fantasy locations looks a little sad right now. It only really has 3 links. We should either TfD it and put see also links on the respective articles or re-expand it to link to the setting section of each game article. Thoughts? Axem Titanium ( talk) 13:51, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
The review can be found here. GamerPro64 ( talk) 23:42, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Koei Warriors Games#Requested move for reasons (this was one of eight related requests). - GTBacchus( talk) 00:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Square Enix →
Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Square Enix — Most game-, franchise-, genre- and platform-specific video game projects have already merged into
WP:WikiProject Video games as task forces/working groups, and there's no reason for this one not to do likewise. It's inconsistent to have it separate, and few editors are only interested in focusing entirely on one game or set of games, so forking this out into its own project actually impedes and splinters collaboration. (See
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#More proposed moves of insular mini-projects into task forces for centralized tracking of remaining VG task force move/merge proposals.) After the move, various cleanup will need to be done, including adding this task force to the main project's page, banner and other resources; changing calls to the former project's banner to task-force-specific calls to the main project banner, updating
WP:WikiProject Games/related projects, merging categories, etc. PS: The existence of any spin-off, non-videogame merchandise relating to various games and franchises by this developer/publisher isn't of any concern (this happens with almost all popular video games, even going back to the "Mario Bros." franchise which spawned a live-action movie; they are still best shepherded by the VG project). —
SMcCandlish
Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ
Contribs.
07:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
List of Final Fantasy media was re-promoted to FL today, three years after being demoted! Congratulations to Axem Titanium! This also marks the SE project's 100th GA,FA, or FL! -- Pres N 15:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Most members may be aware from other groups but since more input is generally being sought, I thought that I would note that there is an ongoing RFC about the use of romanization of English loanwords in the Japanese language. — Ost ( talk) 12:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
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Hi! The current articles treat the Chocobo series as a part of the Final Fantasy series. However, it is not actually a part of it; Square Enix treats it as a distinct franchise. See http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ , at the bottom of the page, where the main Square Enix franchises are listed. Moreover, when you think about it, the Chocobo series has very different gameplays than Final Fantasy, largely different staffs and a younger, different fanbase. And also quite simply it doesn't have "Final Fantasy" in the original titles of its games. It is similar to Kingdom Hearts in that while it does features Final Fantasy characters (or creatures in this case), it is an original franchise. It even has kind of its own (loose) continuity, with characters like Shirma and Croma who are recurring in it but have never appeared in the main Final Fantasy series. So I think all relevant articles and lists should be corrected to separate Chocobo from Final Fantasy. The two Chocobo games that were released in English as Final Fantasy Fables games should still be mentioned in the Final Fantasy lists for completion's sake, like the Final Fantasy Legend games. Thoughts? Megata Sanshiro ( talk) 18:06, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
well, i just thought i show some light on some much needed articles. for example Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII needs refs for the characters (not much, just to verify them), gameplay (perhaps some coverage on a magazine like dangeki or famitsu?) and story needs to be trimmed. After that, some reception and some mention of development would be good to move it up to at least C-class (again probably from Dangeki or famitsu). An image of all the playable characters wouldn't hurt either
as for Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII and Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII need more refs on gameplay. but other than that. i think it could merit to at least B-class if not A-class or GA. this gave me the idea of making an article for the turks, similar to how Organization XIII has it's own article. but it's up to us to find the sources.
Now onto other matters that aren't so important, but some-what relevant.
the ff series template, shows Final Fantasy IV: The After Years and Final Fantasy X-2 in the spin off section even though they are direct sequels. maybe they should be added in parentheses next to the original game? well I'll leave it to you guys to start things, but i think this is very important and hope we get some agreement and/or refs. Bread Ninja ( talk) 07:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Well I'm not saying the Turks is article will gain immediate attention and make a article ASAP. but i just thought it would be interesting to see how much we can find. AS before Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus, i know they aren't urgent, but i just thought i shed some light to those who aren't focusing much on it. though I'm sure we can find some sources on the gameplay considering they were released in English territories. Bread Ninja ( talk) 21:26, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
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Two Square Enix Wikiproject articles Dissidia: Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy XII are now missing their cover boxart thanks to an edit that made the images orphaned and speedily deleted. Now both pages are using logo images which if WP:VGIMAGES is concerned, says that English boxart should be used instead. If I remember, logo images are a no-no, as they are mere decorations unlike a boxart that identifies the appearance of the product. Am I correct and what should be done? — Bl ue 。 12:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
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Hello. I would like to make a few suggestions here:
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a discussion about the final fanasy template and Final Fantasy Tactics (series) article is in progresss in the WT:VG page. Bread Ninja ( talk) 01:44, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
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This article is really confusing. It is supposed to be about compilations of Final Fantasy I and Final Fantasy II but it also discusses standalone releases of these two games (PSP, iPhone, Blackberry sections). Besides, it only describes changes and additions, which are sometimes very minor and trivial (you know it's trivial when the editor starts a sentence with "Interestingly, ..."). There is no actual Gameplay and Development sections in the article. Just because it's about re-releases doesn't mean it shouldn't have those sections (see
Final Fantasy Chronicles, a GA). Furthermore, the Reception section is very disjointed; when dealing with a game that has a dozen of different versions, I think the Reception section should try to summarize things a bit instead of dealing with each release individually in a repetitive manner. Also, the Game Boy Advance section has a random paragraph about reception for some reason.
Basically, I think the current format is not suitable because it's the usual video game article format, even though the real topic isn't a video game (or two video games) but simply the differences between the versions of a video game (or two video games). For all those reasons, I think the article should either be:
Thoughts? Megata Sanshiro ( talk) 10:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
This article has been merged into Final Fantasy (video game). Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:06, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
It appears a large ammount of users have gone to it and edit it drastically, to a point where i can't revert them all. I need some help. alot of refs are gone. Bread Ninja ( talk) 13:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that the FFVII template has all the characters in brackets. I think this looks rather messy, so I think we should change it from
to
Understandably, Axem Titanium reverted the edit when I made it, because this leaves Gaia on its own with no other articles, meaning it's a whole line for just one article. Rather than engage in an edit war, I thought I should go here and see which other people thought looked better. Harry Blue5 ( talk) 19:52, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
that would be contradicting, but again,we have consensus. so no use discussing this. Bread Ninja ( talk) 22:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
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Now that Final Fantasys 1-12 are all GA or FA, I think it's time to look at resurrecting the Final Fantasy titles featured topic. As per this discussion, it looks like we're going to need List of Final Fantasy media, our former featured list, to get back up to FL to be the lead article of the topic. I've started taking a look at it, and the thing it needs most of all is a bunch of citations, but I'd really appreciate it if some of you guys could take a look at it and make suggestions. Thanks! -- Pres N 17:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
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The link is here. GamerPro64 ( talk) 02:59, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
the article is written in a in-universe style. for example, yensids tower/mysterious tower, is really focusing on one title instead of mentioning the change by series.
same with Radiant/Garden and Land of Departure/Castle oblivion. they all follow fictional chronology which makes it in-universe. it would be great if someone could help me on this. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:09, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
About a year ago, I said some pretty harsh things — mainly about Wikipedia and its projects "losing their way" and whatnot. The typical thing most Wikipedians of 4-5 years go through. I was growing extremely frustrated with the project, though I've now had plenty of time away from it. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Anyway, I'll be poking around more often, most likely. I guess you could call me the "wise old sage", so feel free to come to me with questions. — Deck iller 19:52, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Sorry if I seemed aggressive the other day. Considering the direction of Wikipedia, I think those merges are nice ideas. — Deck iller 16:26, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
WIkia does not meet EL even if one article has to be "de-wikify", it's much more than mirror. WIkia hardly ever meets EL, in fact hardly any wiki ever met the right requirements. Also, FFXV just an idea, nothing has been confirmed it's only small quotes and vague answers, but nothing has confirmed that ffXV will exist. there only ideas. we need more. and yes we need to confirm information. it doesnt have to be true though, it just has to be verifiable. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Articles like Final Fantasy use a timeline which Dragon Quest attempted to copy and that coding came under fire by User:AnOddName because it lacks some important FA requirements. 陣 内 Jinnai 01:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
1986 – | – Dragon Warrior | |
1987 – | – Dragon Warrior II | |
1988 – | – Dragon Warrior III | |
1989 – | ||
1990 – | – Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen | |
1991 – | ||
1992 – | – Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride | |
1993 – | ||
1994 – | ||
1995 – | – Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Reverie | |
1996 – | ||
1997 – | ||
1998 – | ||
1999 – | ||
2000 – | – Dragon Warrior VII | |
2001 – | ||
2002 – | ||
2003 – | ||
2004 – | – Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King | |
2005 – | ||
2006 – | ||
2007 – | ||
2008 – | ||
2009 – | – Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies |
I noticed some person created the FFXV page, and although the page does contain sources, some of it is simply using too much elaboration on the sources. It seems to be violating WP:FUTURE to a very high extend. Someone used a translating machine to create the Chinese, Japanese and Spanish page based on this one as well, and the Chinese and Japanese pages are currently undergoing AfD(did not check the Spanish) —Preceding signed comment added by MythSearcher talk 06:48, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to have to agree with Mythsearcher on this one. Plus, i find some of the sources there very questionable. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:59, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Until we get an official confirmation that it will exist, or that it's in production, then i suggest the article not exist for the time being>16:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
DQ X was formally announced, so not as big as an issue as ffXV. still it's a very small article. Bread Ninja ( talk) 17:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Both articles need to be merged into their series pages discussing the future of the series. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 19:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
It is speculation if a source have not mentioned FFXV but is included to support a claim of prompted some media outlets to wonder about the implications for Final Fantasy XV and a bunch of we don't know this, we don't know that statements in the staff section is speculation. —Preceding signed comment added by MythSearcher talk 14:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Jonathan Hardin, he's not being an "ass". his comment was completely neutral. anyways, i think we all have an agreement now? or does someone else still oppose. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
if we were to keep the information, it would be to no use when FFXV game actually does exist. it wouldn't be important to the article and only be removed when the article becomes made. A speedy deletion wouldn't be so bad, especially form the information is so vague. i doubt it can holdit's own section in the ff franchise article Bread Ninja ( talk) 21:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Very well then, please place an afd on the article. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
A merge tag was added to Dragon Quest a while ago and I'm just wondering if there is any consensus on the issue. The series article is/was/kind of going through FAC, and the merge needs to be resolved before it can get passed. In my opinion, the articles should not be merged (mostly because a Future section would be problematic and the DQ X article will just be recreated in a month or two anyway). Ideas? ? EVAUNIT 神になった人間 17:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I have located these legit Twitter pages from Square Enix developers and would like to know if it's okay to link them in external links sections, especially when there's nothing else to link to:
Jonathan Hardin' ( talk) 14:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
i dont think so....it's like youtube, many companies have there own youtube pages to promote there stuff, but it's not really something as external link appropriate. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:40, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi! The Final Fantasy XIII article claims that Sazh was based on Lionel Richie, citing a summary from IGN. But I'm pretty sure this is just a "joke" that started on messageboards. I don't think Richie's name was ever mentioned in Famitsu or developers' interviews. Should this be removed? Megata Sanshiro ( talk) 11:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
An editor has reverted the merge of Final Fantasy character classes, saying that the proper procedure was not followed. Please see the discussion they have started here. -- Pres N 16:11, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Minigames of Final Fantasy actually, i feel Minigames should be merged with all the respected articles it mentions. it's difficult to merge an article of examples to gameplay. Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:49, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I think Final Fantasy gameplay itself could be streamlined and merged with Final Fantasy. If the gameplay article was focused on the common elements of the series rather than listing every characteristic of every installment, it would be much shorter and would fit well in the main article. Megata Sanshiro ( talk) 10:56, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
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Vaan and Balthier were created last fall as forks from Characters of Final Fantasy XII (GA) I've been notified that they should have been added to the "Final Fantasy XII" topic a few months ago, so it is in danger of being demoted. There are a few options as to what we can do about this:
Thoughts? I'm in favor of merging, personally. -- Pres N 18:49, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Per a suggestion when I was working on List of Final Fantasy media a while ago, I'm trying to split out a "list of Final Fantasy video games" at User:PresN/LoFFVG. I've worked down through about FF11, and I'm looking for opinions on the format that I'm using. I'm putting in all of the different releases of each game- does the way I'm doing it work? Thanks! -- Pres N 16:30, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Looks a bit complicated, i forget, but what's PAL region? Bread Ninja ( talk) 16:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
{{
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for the list. I think it'll display the information about the ports/re-releases better. The first "Video games" heading is not necessary because the title will give that information. Because of that, all the headings can move up a level: 3 → 2 and 4 → 3. Also, I'd split the games up by series and use those as headings, this should prevent entries appearing more than once.{{
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Hey, it's been a week, and though I've gotten a bunch of comments and sorted out their issues, the nomination hasn't gotten any votes. Would you guys mind stopping by and giving your opinion? Thanks! -- Pres N 16:33, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Unless i am mistaken, the Final Fantasy series seems to be missing an article that would cover one of the biggest themes and certainly is\are involved in the plots of most of the games. The summoned creatures. Simply south (talk) 21:32, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I am considering a Good Article (or a Featured Article) push on the Final Fantasy XIII article. I think the lead section needs to be in three paragraphs. Any comments or suggestions you might have to help make this to either a Good Article or a Featured Article? Thanks in advance. Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 04:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
The article is constantly getting edited, and although it does seem to be good for GA, i think we should wait until it cools down a bit. that's just me, i think it's ready but i also think the characters article can be split so that more information can be added. Plus it looks a little long. other than that I'm sure there are a few things to fix Bread Ninja ( talk) 04:14, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
At User:Teggles' request, I scanned ten pages related to Final Fantasy VIII from some 1999 Game Informers. Just letting you all know in case there's some usable information in them of benefit to the article. Cheers. sesu prime 04:15, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Trying to track this little bit down to get it translated by a friend of mine, but it seems like every uploaded copy of the soundtrack is lacking the interviews. In a nutshell, SaGa's 20th Anni OST came with an additional 21st disk that had interviews with all the musicians behind the series. Does anyone here happen to have a copy of it? It's probably the only dev info if any we'd get for SaGa 3 in the long run as a result.
And yeah like I said, this is a longshot, especially given the going price for the set is $250.-- Kung Fu Man ( talk) 02:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Heads up that a prod was placed and removed by me and there might be an AfD. 陣 内 Jinnai 21:19, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, I've opened up a peer review of this list here, if you want to make any comments. Hopefully, it's good enough for FL again. Thanks, Axem Titanium ( talk) 16:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
FYI- Axem found an online version of a lengthy Edge article about the Final Fantasy series. I'm sure there's snippets of usable content for the individual FF articles. Those interested, here's the citation code:
( Guyinblack25 talk 14:08, 22 June 2010 (UTC))
Template:Final Fantasy locations looks a little sad right now. It only really has 3 links. We should either TfD it and put see also links on the respective articles or re-expand it to link to the setting section of each game article. Thoughts? Axem Titanium ( talk) 13:51, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
The review can be found here. GamerPro64 ( talk) 23:42, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
A discussion concerning the use of romaji for English words (mainly titles) written in katakana has been under discussion at WT:MOS-JA#WP:VG/GL#Non-English games. Input from this project is requested. 陣 内 Jinnai 19:49, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Koei Warriors Games#Requested move for reasons (this was one of eight related requests). - GTBacchus( talk) 00:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Square Enix →
Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Square Enix — Most game-, franchise-, genre- and platform-specific video game projects have already merged into
WP:WikiProject Video games as task forces/working groups, and there's no reason for this one not to do likewise. It's inconsistent to have it separate, and few editors are only interested in focusing entirely on one game or set of games, so forking this out into its own project actually impedes and splinters collaboration. (See
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#More proposed moves of insular mini-projects into task forces for centralized tracking of remaining VG task force move/merge proposals.) After the move, various cleanup will need to be done, including adding this task force to the main project's page, banner and other resources; changing calls to the former project's banner to task-force-specific calls to the main project banner, updating
WP:WikiProject Games/related projects, merging categories, etc. PS: The existence of any spin-off, non-videogame merchandise relating to various games and franchises by this developer/publisher isn't of any concern (this happens with almost all popular video games, even going back to the "Mario Bros." franchise which spawned a live-action movie; they are still best shepherded by the VG project). —
SMcCandlish
Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ
Contribs.
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List of Final Fantasy media was re-promoted to FL today, three years after being demoted! Congratulations to Axem Titanium! This also marks the SE project's 100th GA,FA, or FL! -- Pres N 15:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Most members may be aware from other groups but since more input is generally being sought, I thought that I would note that there is an ongoing RFC about the use of romanization of English loanwords in the Japanese language. — Ost ( talk) 12:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
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Hi! The current articles treat the Chocobo series as a part of the Final Fantasy series. However, it is not actually a part of it; Square Enix treats it as a distinct franchise. See http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ , at the bottom of the page, where the main Square Enix franchises are listed. Moreover, when you think about it, the Chocobo series has very different gameplays than Final Fantasy, largely different staffs and a younger, different fanbase. And also quite simply it doesn't have "Final Fantasy" in the original titles of its games. It is similar to Kingdom Hearts in that while it does features Final Fantasy characters (or creatures in this case), it is an original franchise. It even has kind of its own (loose) continuity, with characters like Shirma and Croma who are recurring in it but have never appeared in the main Final Fantasy series. So I think all relevant articles and lists should be corrected to separate Chocobo from Final Fantasy. The two Chocobo games that were released in English as Final Fantasy Fables games should still be mentioned in the Final Fantasy lists for completion's sake, like the Final Fantasy Legend games. Thoughts? Megata Sanshiro ( talk) 18:06, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
well, i just thought i show some light on some much needed articles. for example Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII needs refs for the characters (not much, just to verify them), gameplay (perhaps some coverage on a magazine like dangeki or famitsu?) and story needs to be trimmed. After that, some reception and some mention of development would be good to move it up to at least C-class (again probably from Dangeki or famitsu). An image of all the playable characters wouldn't hurt either
as for Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII and Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII need more refs on gameplay. but other than that. i think it could merit to at least B-class if not A-class or GA. this gave me the idea of making an article for the turks, similar to how Organization XIII has it's own article. but it's up to us to find the sources.
Now onto other matters that aren't so important, but some-what relevant.
the ff series template, shows Final Fantasy IV: The After Years and Final Fantasy X-2 in the spin off section even though they are direct sequels. maybe they should be added in parentheses next to the original game? well I'll leave it to you guys to start things, but i think this is very important and hope we get some agreement and/or refs. Bread Ninja ( talk) 07:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Well I'm not saying the Turks is article will gain immediate attention and make a article ASAP. but i just thought it would be interesting to see how much we can find. AS before Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus, i know they aren't urgent, but i just thought i shed some light to those who aren't focusing much on it. though I'm sure we can find some sources on the gameplay considering they were released in English territories. Bread Ninja ( talk) 21:26, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
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Two Square Enix Wikiproject articles Dissidia: Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy XII are now missing their cover boxart thanks to an edit that made the images orphaned and speedily deleted. Now both pages are using logo images which if WP:VGIMAGES is concerned, says that English boxart should be used instead. If I remember, logo images are a no-no, as they are mere decorations unlike a boxart that identifies the appearance of the product. Am I correct and what should be done? — Bl ue 。 12:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
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Hello. I would like to make a few suggestions here:
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This article is really confusing. It is supposed to be about compilations of Final Fantasy I and Final Fantasy II but it also discusses standalone releases of these two games (PSP, iPhone, Blackberry sections). Besides, it only describes changes and additions, which are sometimes very minor and trivial (you know it's trivial when the editor starts a sentence with "Interestingly, ..."). There is no actual Gameplay and Development sections in the article. Just because it's about re-releases doesn't mean it shouldn't have those sections (see
Final Fantasy Chronicles, a GA). Furthermore, the Reception section is very disjointed; when dealing with a game that has a dozen of different versions, I think the Reception section should try to summarize things a bit instead of dealing with each release individually in a repetitive manner. Also, the Game Boy Advance section has a random paragraph about reception for some reason.
Basically, I think the current format is not suitable because it's the usual video game article format, even though the real topic isn't a video game (or two video games) but simply the differences between the versions of a video game (or two video games). For all those reasons, I think the article should either be:
Thoughts? Megata Sanshiro ( talk) 10:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
This article has been merged into Final Fantasy (video game). Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:06, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
It appears a large ammount of users have gone to it and edit it drastically, to a point where i can't revert them all. I need some help. alot of refs are gone. Bread Ninja ( talk) 13:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that the FFVII template has all the characters in brackets. I think this looks rather messy, so I think we should change it from
to
Understandably, Axem Titanium reverted the edit when I made it, because this leaves Gaia on its own with no other articles, meaning it's a whole line for just one article. Rather than engage in an edit war, I thought I should go here and see which other people thought looked better. Harry Blue5 ( talk) 19:52, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
that would be contradicting, but again,we have consensus. so no use discussing this. Bread Ninja ( talk) 22:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
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