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While doing some source scrounging, I found this BlogSpot website once run by someone in Japan who transcribed a lot of information from various Japanese publications about video games from Square; included are the magazine, its issue, and page numbers. These range from their big Final Fantasy titles to more obscure offerings including Another Mind, Live A Live and Soukaigi. There's loads of info on Xenogears, titbits for the earlier SaGa games, and a few on even more obscure games from their library including Racing Lagoon and early development info on games (Famicom version of Final Fantasy IV, PlayOnline system). The info spans the mid-1980s to the early 2000s. This resource shouldn't be missed! -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 20:51, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Some time ago, I kind of felt that Cloud Strife's cultural was too crowded so I tried reorganizing some parts. Do you guys think it should be further organized? I mean, he sure is one of this franchise's most famous characters so his page must be often read by people. Tintor2 ( talk) 17:28, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Hello. Quite a few months ago, the List of Final Fantasy media, an FL, was tagged with an update template. I think it may need to be looked at and the page might need to be updated. Thoughts? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:53, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
So, I've been thinking about making the Dragon Quest series a good topic or a featured topic. One of my potential interests in helping out is to make the Dragon Quest series article or the Dragon Quest (video game) article an FA and feature them as a WP:TFA on May 27, 2021 (the 35th anniversary of the series). If there's any ideas on how to help out, please let me know here. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 07:27, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
There are two discussions about potentially moving the Trials of Mana article to its Japanese title Seiken Densetsu 3. They can be found at Talk:List of video game remakes and remastered ports#Rename Trials of Mana back to Seiken Densetsu 3 and Talk:Trials of Mana#Requested move 7 March 2020. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 10:23, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
i have no idea if this interview has ever been used or if it's even useful to this project, but I found this random GameFan interview with Yoshitaka Amano. here. I hope this was a useful find. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 19:53, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm not experienced when it comes to free images but I saw this on image on twitter that might be. It might be helpful here to the remake and even Cloud Strife in a similar fashion Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance has one with Raiden (Metal Gear). My cents. Tintor2 ( talk) 18:31, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
BTW, since the remake is part of Compilation, I guess the it need to be GA too right due to the good topic? The production seems well organized while the reception might need further improving considering the writing of other Final Fantasy articles. I don't have too much experience with those big RPGs but so far the reception's gameplay could be expanded while more areas of the narrative could be provided. Tintor2 ( talk) 23:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Category:Start-Class Square Enix articles
All articles higher than Start class (initial - 72 articles remain): 84.4% complete | ||
All articles higher than Start class (current - 15 articles remain): 97.3% complete | ||
I have started to work on our Start articles, and there aren’t nearly as many as their used to be, so I think they should all either be built up to C class or merged. Who’s with me?!?! @ PresN:? @ ProtoDrake:? Anyone else who’s still around from now or before? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 01:55, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
It's done! After an incredibly wide-spread improvement effort spearheaded by Judgesurreal777, the last merge discussions were closed and the last straggler Starts were just merged, meaning that for the first time ever, the 459 articles in our scope include no non-feeatured lists and no articles below C-class. Over the course of 2 months, over 72 articles were improved or merged, with many rising to B-class or nominated for GA. This has been an amazing increase in the quality of our articles! -- Pres N 02:31, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
By any chance did any article or book explain what's exactly the first bike from Cloud, designer or marketing? According to the wiki, it's called Hardey Daytona as a reference to Harley-Davidson but whenever I search about it I find nothing. Especially weird, since there is a lot of merchandising involving Cloud's bikes. The one we have material is the Advent Children bike, Fenrir, by Takayuki Takeya. Same with the bike minigame made by CyberConnect2. A friend happens to have an English Ultimania guide but there's no material about its designers just a description. Tintor2 ( talk) 20:18, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
I've been doing a lot of recent work on the article above, which had become urgent due to its incoming shutdown this month. I'd appreciate another pair of eyes and any edits needed, as I aim to take it to GA. That will make the entire Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy game subseries able to be nominated for a GT if possible. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 21:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Should The Game Designers Studio be remerged back into Square (video game company)? Seems like it's just a barely notable shell company de facto wholly owned by Square. This is a contested remerge apparently. Axem Titanium ( talk) 20:16, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
I noticed the wiki has an entire GBike article filled with primary sources about its gameplay and release time. However, it would need also third party sources such as Famitsu that comment on its potential notability. I could work on it but I don't know if it's possible. I mean I did work in two mobile phone games article related to The King of Fighters but they were more notable since they were released worldwide and thus had a lot of feedback. Any ideas? Tintor2 ( talk) 22:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
@ ProtoDrake: , @ PresN: and Judgesurreal777 Tried working on it here but I couldn't find English reviews or reception. Then again one of the sources is in Japanese. In case you find any review Famitsu or others be bold and add it to a sandbox. I won't create an article. Tintor2 ( talk) 23:43, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I referenced every game I could of his, but there are I believe five left that I cannot find any references for. Could someone else double check, and then remove them if there is no proof that he composed music for those games? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 17:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@ Tintor2: has done amazing work updating and maintaining our final fantasy 7 article and characters, and he has one at a very high level of material and notability, that of Cloud Strife. I think it would be fun for us as a group to help get this into Featured status, like we used to as a project! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 00:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
There's a discussion taking place at WTVG ( Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Notability concern regarding Radical Dreamers) regarding this FA in our scope- it's an older FA and has some severe problems, and might be in danger of being merged or delisted if better sourcing can't be found. -- Pres N 02:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
There's no import reviews because you'd need a Satellaview to play it, and it's text heavy so that is another barrier. You'd have to find Japanese print magazine sources to really flesh the article out. The game would have gotten coverage in Famitsu, Dengeki, and other magazines. This isn't easy, and is a bit of a chore, but it's what needs to be done.
Also the Famitsu interview should be cited to the Famitsu issue rather than the fansite. The fansites aren't RS, but Famitsu is. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 23:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
We have at least seven Start articles that have been starts for over a decade related to Dragon Quest TV shows, manga, and anime. We have had no luck in sourcing anything in English as it was all released almost solely in Japan. I have long felt, and now wish to get feedback, on a proposal to create a Dragon Quest Media article to merge them together. Similar to what we did with the Music articles long ago, better to have one GA “Music of Final fantasy something” than 12 poorly sourced articles about albums. I propose we do the same with this set of articles. If they end up warranting their own article at some point, we can simply put a link to the main article from this new “mother” article. Thoughts? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 18:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
And if we don’t merge here, do we merge to somewhere else? The List of Dragon Quest media article, the main Dragon Quest article? I’d love to collect thoughts, because like PresN I am not sure what the right path is to zero Start class articles. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 02:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
It's been long since I played FFIV but I remember created its character list thanks to some sources provided by staff, the reviews for the original game and the remake. I never played the sequel sadly so I don't remember if Cecil appeared too much there. User Abryn found quite a lot of sources for the character so I guess it might be probably he can pass notability. Then again, I barely remember the game so I just wanted remind this. Tintor2 ( talk) 21:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Our last article with two different types of Cleanup tags (not counting merge tags which will be done soon). It’s also a start from our drive to no starts, and has been tagged for 13 years. Any help cleaning this up to at least get the tags off would be super helpful, because even though we are now at the highest article count ever, and the lowest level of stubs/starts/lists ever, and the smallest number of cleanup tags articles ever, there are a few more to go before we hit zero. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 14:10, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Besides merge tags which won’t take long, there are no cleanup tags for the first time ever. Congratulations to everyone who made this possible, especially to long time Contributors @ PresN: and @ ProtoDrake: for helping achieve what I have thought was impossible. I think we are probably the only mid sized wiki project that has achieved anything like it! Let’s try to stay at cleanup Zero if we can! Also the mergers are to facilitate that in about a week or two, we will be at Stub/List/Start Zero, and every article we have will be at least a C! Again, three cheers to all who made it possible! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 12:22, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
That’s right! Only 14 articles (not factoring in mergers which may make the goal easier) till we have over half our articles at Good Article status or higher. Another long time dream coming closer now, so grab yourself an article, shine it up, and help us get over the top! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 14:28, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
So we need one more, anyone got any others cooking, or have some in mind? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 02:46, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Yo, I want to bring Tomomi Kobayashi to GAN, but have no experience with individuals. Could anyone offer assistance? - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 18:19, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
And I added a 12th, but everyone keep working if you have more! We are close to 100 Final Fantasy Good Articles and 200 total Square Enix Good Articles! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 02:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Kind of a long shot, but: we have a list I polished up in 2016, List of Square Enix Europe games, which chronicles all of the games published by Square Enix Europe, aka what used to be Eidos before it was bought in 2009. For a while games would be listed as being published by "Square Enix Europe", but by 2016 you'd have to check the press releases to see if the game was copyrighted by "Square Enix, Ltd." vs the american/japanese companies. As far as I can tell, however, even that's quietly stopped? Shadow of the Tomb Raider (2018) has it, but Marvel's Avengers (2020) doesn't despite being developed by subsidiaries Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montréal, and originally announced as being by "Square Enix Europe" ( [1]). With IO Interactive split away and the Champ Man series dead, that's pretty much the only developers under that "brand" they have left. So my question is, does anyone remember seeing any sort of announcement about SEE no long publishing games themselves, and now just being SE's Europe distribution branch? -- Pres N 15:38, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
WikiDragons roar! All our articles are free of cleanup tags and are C class or above! To my knowledge, no project has ever accomplished this, and your work and dedication has created a shining jewel amidst our Wikipedia brethren. We have a phrase at Wikipedia: “We Make the Internet Not Suck”. And that is true! But I have always felt that “Wikiproject Square Enix makes Wikipedia Not Suck” by leading the way. Three cheers for us all! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 02:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
I proposed a merger for Kingdom Hearts Mobile, mostly because it has little development and reception and we can’t seem to find anymore at present. Please chime in on whether it should be merged to the main Kingdom Hearts article or not on the articles talk page! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 18:26, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
I think this is an article that could work out, and I would certainly like to see more video game area articles. Sadly, I'm not familiar with FF7 enough to do it myself, so I'm working on other area articles. Anyone willing/able to try this out? - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 19:25, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Honestly considering how popular is FFVII. I'm surprised there is no One-Winged Angel article especially due to its multiple remixes Compilation an Kingdom Hearts. Tintor2 ( talk) 21:43, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Trials of Mana Trials of Mana for Featured Article of the Day
I recently removed some links in Template:Kingdom Hearts chronology on the grounds that they were 1) redirects, not articles, 2) links to sections of articles that don't discuss their place in the chronology, or 3) their place in the chronology is unsourced (or some combination of all three). Favre1fan93 reverted me. I think my main issue here philosophically is why are we linking to things on this template in the first place? We want to show the fictional chronological relationship between games in this series. The position of Back Cover in relation to Kingdom Hearts χ is unclear from the ref and also it's just a movie, not a game. The three subgames within Kingdom Hearts χ all fall chronologically at the beginning of the series, so I don't see why we need to pipelink the names of the subgames when "Kingdom Hearts χ" will suffice. A Fragmentary Passage's position in the chronology is unclear as well, since it takes place an indeterminate amount of time after Birth by Sleep and also takes place at multiple time points within the series, so I don't think it makes sense to place it definitively anywhere on the template, especially if the sources fail to definitively place it too. Melody of Memory is an unreleased game that is speculated to take place after KH3 but all sources saying such are speculation, not proof, so it should be left off for now. Axem Titanium ( talk) 19:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Well Boyohboy231 added both Dark Road and Melody of Memory to the table. Disregarding MoM, I still feel the X games need mention. They still would serve the readers, and I wouldn't necessarily look at this as a "navigation" template because I don't feel that's it's primary purpose. Yes, article links exist, but in my eyes it is more of a quick visualizer of the chronology order for the series. The navigation is just a bonus, so it wouldn't be odd to have non-linked entries. I still think the collapsible sidebar template would serve the content well to satisfy what you visually feel should exist, while including the content I feel should exist. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 02:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
It has been done. A milestone I never really thought would happen, but over the years and in wonderful bursts like this one it came to be! A majority of articles are GA, FA, or FL, and there are no non-featured lists, Stubs, or Starts, all are C-class or better! I will be issuing Barnstars for all nominations and reviewers as part of this campaign. I do not believe anyone has ever accomplished what has been done, and it would not have been possible without, in no particular order, @ ProtoDrake:, @ PresN:, @ Axem Titanium:, @ Abryn:, @ Tintor2:, and @ Blue Pumpkin Pie:. We must also recognized our past heroes as well, such as @ Deckiller:, @ Kung Fu Man:, @ Sjones23:, @ Tom Morris:, @ Ost316:, @ Iftekharahmed96:, User Lucia Black (RIP), @ Ryu Kaze:, and @ Kariteh:, and all our members. Amazing accomplishment, one and all! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 22:18, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
There 93 96 Final Fantasy GAs, so we need 4 more! :)
There are 183 192 Square Enix GAs in total, so once we have our 4 Final Fantasy GAs, we will still need 4 more!
Thoughts? Anyone want to nominate, or say they will nominate them at some point? I added two of mine! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 17:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
I just got Rinoa Heartilly through GA review, but I read that in the Final Fantasy VIII Ultimania book there is info on her and her dog Angelo. Do any among us own any of those books? I see many references in our projects to those books, so someone must, right? I’d love that info to beef out the article. Even though it just became a GA, an article could always be better, right? CC: @ PresN: @ ProtoDrake: Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 16:26, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Judgesurreal777: According to this Angelo was modeled after a Black Tri Australian Shepherd that one of Tetsuya Nomura's coworkers owned. I know a person who owns the English book so I'll ask her for a proper citation. Tintor2 ( talk) 23:29, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Judgesurreal777: Have you tried googling the Japanese characters in Google, find an appropiate source and then trying Google translate? At least that's what I did with some parts from Haseo. In Rinoa's case, while her original game might be a bit dated in comparison to Haseo's, there might a possiblilty to find the staff members talking about her design in Dissidia NT. Tintor2 ( talk) 21:16, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
A while ago I added to some FFVII characters, info about their characterization from the VII RE Ultimania guidebook, including the Remake article itself too. However, the information about Aerith's take was removed due to the translator not being a reliable source. However, now that I see, some sites focused on Japanaese gaming still used that translation liked Gematsu to make articles in regards to the remake. The person who originally translated all of this has happens to be on Twitter and today I sent a message in regards to the pages of the book containing the interview but still hasn't responded. The user also has a tumblr account but I don't know how to use that. This might be too important if there are plans to turn VII's remake into a GA. Cheers. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:37, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
If we look at the top 31 articles in terms of page views, these articles all get over a thousand views a a day! Pretty cool! But we do have, among those 31, 5 articles, including our number one article, are B’s!
These would be fantastic to get these at least to Good Article Status, who minds or built these articles? It should be a priority I think to see if anyone is interested in helping get one of these to be GA, we want 200 GA’s and our top articles to be GA as well as that’s what people are seeing of our work :) Any volunteers? :) Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 16:09, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
So like this:
Surprisingly there isn't too much about the actors. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:46, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Judgesurreal777: I think I added most of those sources except the one in Japanese. In regards to the narrative's changes I added them to premise but I don't know if they should be moved to another section instead. I would add the changes too to the lead, but the biggest changes of the remake only are explored in the last chapter. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:53, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Done. Tintor2 ( talk) 00:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Can anyone think of places where we might find free use headshots for some of our biographies? In particular, I'm looking for Yasumi Matsuno, Yoko Taro, Tetsuya Nomura, and Masayoshi Soken to help illustrate other articles but lots of WPSE biographies are missing them. I checked the GDC Flickr account which is where we usually get a lot of free pictures, but no dice for them. Axem Titanium ( talk) 11:48, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I was wondering if there was any interest in creating a new article for the current expansion of Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers? NightFire19 ( talk) 17:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
I want to raise a question here. A little time ago, I created an article for the novel Final Fantasy XV: The Dawn of the Future. I feel this was a mistake on my part, as it's received little to no publicity, so as it stands it isn't sustainable. I turned it into a redirect and merged relevant info back into the XV dev article, but Axem Titanium just restored the article.
I think this article needs discussion as to its relevance and chance of remaining sustainable. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 07:34, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
I have a few of the people that make all our Square Enix magic happen up for GA, please review them! Most are not long, have quality sources, sourced works, etc. Not too difficult, and may be more interesting than you may deem! For the list see the 100/200 Drive above. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 21:02, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Can anyone review Template:Did you know nominations/Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers for me please? Willing to trade a GA review or multiple DYK reviews so it can get approved in time for August 11. I'm also planning to nominate it for GA right after if you're in the mood for a deeper review as well. Thanks, Axem Titanium ( talk) 08:53, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
This is a quick reminder about some primary sources for development info that are often overlooked. The Final Fantasy and Square Enix YouTube channels have video development diaries and some of their convention panels. You can use {{ cite AV media}} to cite them (for longer videos, it's helpful to include a timestamp, but not necessary for shorter ones). Also the Final Fantasy Portal Site has developer interviews for older games, in between fluffy user polls. The most recent one was a series of interviews to commemorate the 20th anniversary of FF9. I've been adding them as refideas on individual pages, but I thought I'd point it out again here. Axem Titanium ( talk) 04:06, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Judgesurreal isn't able to finish addressing my GAN comments at Talk:Noctis Lucis Caelum/GA1 due to irl stuff. The article is in solid shape and I've done the whole review already so it'd be a shame to fail it at this point. Is anyone able to take over on this one? Axem Titanium ( talk) 06:27, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
I have nominated Final Fantasy X-2 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. GamerPro64 04:51, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
I've just finished creating an article for the overall Crystal Chronicles series. It almost certainly needs other eyes to do copyediting, the reception section's lacking, and it needs a logo image of some kind for the infobox, but it's there. It can be worked on. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 19:07, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
I was curious if there was anyone in the project who could translate 2 Japanese interviews for Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory? The 2 articles are on PlayStation Japan and Famitsu. I've done rough translations with Google Translate, and I think there are a few bits in each interview that I'd like to add to the article and I want to make sure what's being added is accurate. Thanks in advance. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't know if the standard was different for Good Articles back then, but I notice a few GAs that don't hold up.
Mainly the reception sections are either focused on ratings or reduced to just one-sentence commentary about the game. There are probably more articles out there that need to be reviewed further but I'll have to dig deep. it would be a good idea to improve these articles if they ever get re-assessed and de-listed from GAs. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 01:05, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
I can manage FFA, love that game. Best Mana. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 20:07, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Final Fantasy X-2 is likely to be delisted as an FA in the next few weeks; while improvements have been made during the FAR, the reception section still needs work. Just alerting the project in case anyone has the time/inclination to help it. -- Pres N 13:51, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
In the past couple days, Zxcvbnm has created articles on Cactuar and Tonberry, which... I'm a little iffy on? They're nice starts, but I'm not sure they're independently notable- so far neither article really has solid sourcing beyond listicles, and barely any development/reception, though obviously they were just started. I feel the same way about Moogle, though that's been around a year - it describes the subject, but there's no real development or reception, just sources saying "thing exists". I feel like all three would be better off merged into a section in Recurring elements in the Final Fantasy series. Does anyone else have an opinion? -- Pres N 02:56, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
From what I can see from Tonberry and Cactuar articles are pretty scarce. I don't think they'll survive as they currently stand. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 14:00, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Here's a few more I've found from a quick search, Zxcvbnm you might find this helpful. A couple of crossovers, a real life reference, promotional and merchandise opportunities, and three sources to illustrate the coverage the cactuar mod has received as well as the significance of PC mod support and its possibilities:
If nothing else, the sources I've listed give me the impression that by 2020, the Cactuar seem to be almost on equal footing with the Chocobo and Moogle as far as being a series mascot is concerned. I suspect there's more if we start looking into Japanese language sources. Haleth ( talk) 12:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
I would not call two entire articles, one web and one magazine, about the Cactuar, as well as several paragraph long mentions scratching the surface.
I"m proposing we merge these articles back since they have very little to establish notability.
Support as proposer. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 19:33, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Alright, it's been a week since the last !vote; while there was some support for merging Cactuar it seems it was largely opposed. Tonberry, on the other hand, had a consensus to merge- besides the article creator, the only oppose was Bryn, who opposed on the basis that more sources might exist, though none had/have been found. I'm going to go ahead and merge it to Recurring elements; obviously, if more sources are found in the future, the decision can be revisited. -- Pres N 03:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
So, not too long ago, Square Enix was demoted from GA status. I'm thinking about getting the article back up to GA status and also expand on Square (company) and Enix so we can promote them to GA as well as FA status, using Sega as a model. Thoughts? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 20:50, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
I noticed that Vanguard Storm and Crystal Defenders share an article. Both have a substantial reception and gameplay. I think it might be a good idea to split them. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 18:33, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
So, I'm thinking that we should make Super Mario RPG an FA and feature it as a TFA on March 9, 2021 (the 25th anniversary of its release). Any ideas? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 20:57, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
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While doing some source scrounging, I found this BlogSpot website once run by someone in Japan who transcribed a lot of information from various Japanese publications about video games from Square; included are the magazine, its issue, and page numbers. These range from their big Final Fantasy titles to more obscure offerings including Another Mind, Live A Live and Soukaigi. There's loads of info on Xenogears, titbits for the earlier SaGa games, and a few on even more obscure games from their library including Racing Lagoon and early development info on games (Famicom version of Final Fantasy IV, PlayOnline system). The info spans the mid-1980s to the early 2000s. This resource shouldn't be missed! -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 20:51, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
Some time ago, I kind of felt that Cloud Strife's cultural was too crowded so I tried reorganizing some parts. Do you guys think it should be further organized? I mean, he sure is one of this franchise's most famous characters so his page must be often read by people. Tintor2 ( talk) 17:28, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Hello. Quite a few months ago, the List of Final Fantasy media, an FL, was tagged with an update template. I think it may need to be looked at and the page might need to be updated. Thoughts? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 02:53, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
So, I've been thinking about making the Dragon Quest series a good topic or a featured topic. One of my potential interests in helping out is to make the Dragon Quest series article or the Dragon Quest (video game) article an FA and feature them as a WP:TFA on May 27, 2021 (the 35th anniversary of the series). If there's any ideas on how to help out, please let me know here. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 07:27, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
There are two discussions about potentially moving the Trials of Mana article to its Japanese title Seiken Densetsu 3. They can be found at Talk:List of video game remakes and remastered ports#Rename Trials of Mana back to Seiken Densetsu 3 and Talk:Trials of Mana#Requested move 7 March 2020. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 10:23, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
i have no idea if this interview has ever been used or if it's even useful to this project, but I found this random GameFan interview with Yoshitaka Amano. here. I hope this was a useful find. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 19:53, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm not experienced when it comes to free images but I saw this on image on twitter that might be. It might be helpful here to the remake and even Cloud Strife in a similar fashion Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance has one with Raiden (Metal Gear). My cents. Tintor2 ( talk) 18:31, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
BTW, since the remake is part of Compilation, I guess the it need to be GA too right due to the good topic? The production seems well organized while the reception might need further improving considering the writing of other Final Fantasy articles. I don't have too much experience with those big RPGs but so far the reception's gameplay could be expanded while more areas of the narrative could be provided. Tintor2 ( talk) 23:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Category:Start-Class Square Enix articles
All articles higher than Start class (initial - 72 articles remain): 84.4% complete | ||
All articles higher than Start class (current - 15 articles remain): 97.3% complete | ||
I have started to work on our Start articles, and there aren’t nearly as many as their used to be, so I think they should all either be built up to C class or merged. Who’s with me?!?! @ PresN:? @ ProtoDrake:? Anyone else who’s still around from now or before? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 01:55, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
It's done! After an incredibly wide-spread improvement effort spearheaded by Judgesurreal777, the last merge discussions were closed and the last straggler Starts were just merged, meaning that for the first time ever, the 459 articles in our scope include no non-feeatured lists and no articles below C-class. Over the course of 2 months, over 72 articles were improved or merged, with many rising to B-class or nominated for GA. This has been an amazing increase in the quality of our articles! -- Pres N 02:31, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
By any chance did any article or book explain what's exactly the first bike from Cloud, designer or marketing? According to the wiki, it's called Hardey Daytona as a reference to Harley-Davidson but whenever I search about it I find nothing. Especially weird, since there is a lot of merchandising involving Cloud's bikes. The one we have material is the Advent Children bike, Fenrir, by Takayuki Takeya. Same with the bike minigame made by CyberConnect2. A friend happens to have an English Ultimania guide but there's no material about its designers just a description. Tintor2 ( talk) 20:18, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
I've been doing a lot of recent work on the article above, which had become urgent due to its incoming shutdown this month. I'd appreciate another pair of eyes and any edits needed, as I aim to take it to GA. That will make the entire Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy game subseries able to be nominated for a GT if possible. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 21:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Should The Game Designers Studio be remerged back into Square (video game company)? Seems like it's just a barely notable shell company de facto wholly owned by Square. This is a contested remerge apparently. Axem Titanium ( talk) 20:16, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
I noticed the wiki has an entire GBike article filled with primary sources about its gameplay and release time. However, it would need also third party sources such as Famitsu that comment on its potential notability. I could work on it but I don't know if it's possible. I mean I did work in two mobile phone games article related to The King of Fighters but they were more notable since they were released worldwide and thus had a lot of feedback. Any ideas? Tintor2 ( talk) 22:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
@ ProtoDrake: , @ PresN: and Judgesurreal777 Tried working on it here but I couldn't find English reviews or reception. Then again one of the sources is in Japanese. In case you find any review Famitsu or others be bold and add it to a sandbox. I won't create an article. Tintor2 ( talk) 23:43, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
I referenced every game I could of his, but there are I believe five left that I cannot find any references for. Could someone else double check, and then remove them if there is no proof that he composed music for those games? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 17:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@ Tintor2: has done amazing work updating and maintaining our final fantasy 7 article and characters, and he has one at a very high level of material and notability, that of Cloud Strife. I think it would be fun for us as a group to help get this into Featured status, like we used to as a project! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 00:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
There's a discussion taking place at WTVG ( Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Notability concern regarding Radical Dreamers) regarding this FA in our scope- it's an older FA and has some severe problems, and might be in danger of being merged or delisted if better sourcing can't be found. -- Pres N 02:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
There's no import reviews because you'd need a Satellaview to play it, and it's text heavy so that is another barrier. You'd have to find Japanese print magazine sources to really flesh the article out. The game would have gotten coverage in Famitsu, Dengeki, and other magazines. This isn't easy, and is a bit of a chore, but it's what needs to be done.
Also the Famitsu interview should be cited to the Famitsu issue rather than the fansite. The fansites aren't RS, but Famitsu is. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 23:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
We have at least seven Start articles that have been starts for over a decade related to Dragon Quest TV shows, manga, and anime. We have had no luck in sourcing anything in English as it was all released almost solely in Japan. I have long felt, and now wish to get feedback, on a proposal to create a Dragon Quest Media article to merge them together. Similar to what we did with the Music articles long ago, better to have one GA “Music of Final fantasy something” than 12 poorly sourced articles about albums. I propose we do the same with this set of articles. If they end up warranting their own article at some point, we can simply put a link to the main article from this new “mother” article. Thoughts? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 18:52, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
And if we don’t merge here, do we merge to somewhere else? The List of Dragon Quest media article, the main Dragon Quest article? I’d love to collect thoughts, because like PresN I am not sure what the right path is to zero Start class articles. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 02:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
It's been long since I played FFIV but I remember created its character list thanks to some sources provided by staff, the reviews for the original game and the remake. I never played the sequel sadly so I don't remember if Cecil appeared too much there. User Abryn found quite a lot of sources for the character so I guess it might be probably he can pass notability. Then again, I barely remember the game so I just wanted remind this. Tintor2 ( talk) 21:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Our last article with two different types of Cleanup tags (not counting merge tags which will be done soon). It’s also a start from our drive to no starts, and has been tagged for 13 years. Any help cleaning this up to at least get the tags off would be super helpful, because even though we are now at the highest article count ever, and the lowest level of stubs/starts/lists ever, and the smallest number of cleanup tags articles ever, there are a few more to go before we hit zero. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 14:10, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Besides merge tags which won’t take long, there are no cleanup tags for the first time ever. Congratulations to everyone who made this possible, especially to long time Contributors @ PresN: and @ ProtoDrake: for helping achieve what I have thought was impossible. I think we are probably the only mid sized wiki project that has achieved anything like it! Let’s try to stay at cleanup Zero if we can! Also the mergers are to facilitate that in about a week or two, we will be at Stub/List/Start Zero, and every article we have will be at least a C! Again, three cheers to all who made it possible! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 12:22, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
That’s right! Only 14 articles (not factoring in mergers which may make the goal easier) till we have over half our articles at Good Article status or higher. Another long time dream coming closer now, so grab yourself an article, shine it up, and help us get over the top! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 14:28, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
So we need one more, anyone got any others cooking, or have some in mind? Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 02:46, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Yo, I want to bring Tomomi Kobayashi to GAN, but have no experience with individuals. Could anyone offer assistance? - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 18:19, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
And I added a 12th, but everyone keep working if you have more! We are close to 100 Final Fantasy Good Articles and 200 total Square Enix Good Articles! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 02:30, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Kind of a long shot, but: we have a list I polished up in 2016, List of Square Enix Europe games, which chronicles all of the games published by Square Enix Europe, aka what used to be Eidos before it was bought in 2009. For a while games would be listed as being published by "Square Enix Europe", but by 2016 you'd have to check the press releases to see if the game was copyrighted by "Square Enix, Ltd." vs the american/japanese companies. As far as I can tell, however, even that's quietly stopped? Shadow of the Tomb Raider (2018) has it, but Marvel's Avengers (2020) doesn't despite being developed by subsidiaries Crystal Dynamics and Eidos Montréal, and originally announced as being by "Square Enix Europe" ( [1]). With IO Interactive split away and the Champ Man series dead, that's pretty much the only developers under that "brand" they have left. So my question is, does anyone remember seeing any sort of announcement about SEE no long publishing games themselves, and now just being SE's Europe distribution branch? -- Pres N 15:38, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
WikiDragons roar! All our articles are free of cleanup tags and are C class or above! To my knowledge, no project has ever accomplished this, and your work and dedication has created a shining jewel amidst our Wikipedia brethren. We have a phrase at Wikipedia: “We Make the Internet Not Suck”. And that is true! But I have always felt that “Wikiproject Square Enix makes Wikipedia Not Suck” by leading the way. Three cheers for us all! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 02:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
I proposed a merger for Kingdom Hearts Mobile, mostly because it has little development and reception and we can’t seem to find anymore at present. Please chime in on whether it should be merged to the main Kingdom Hearts article or not on the articles talk page! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 18:26, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
I think this is an article that could work out, and I would certainly like to see more video game area articles. Sadly, I'm not familiar with FF7 enough to do it myself, so I'm working on other area articles. Anyone willing/able to try this out? - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 19:25, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Honestly considering how popular is FFVII. I'm surprised there is no One-Winged Angel article especially due to its multiple remixes Compilation an Kingdom Hearts. Tintor2 ( talk) 21:43, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Trials of Mana Trials of Mana for Featured Article of the Day
I recently removed some links in Template:Kingdom Hearts chronology on the grounds that they were 1) redirects, not articles, 2) links to sections of articles that don't discuss their place in the chronology, or 3) their place in the chronology is unsourced (or some combination of all three). Favre1fan93 reverted me. I think my main issue here philosophically is why are we linking to things on this template in the first place? We want to show the fictional chronological relationship between games in this series. The position of Back Cover in relation to Kingdom Hearts χ is unclear from the ref and also it's just a movie, not a game. The three subgames within Kingdom Hearts χ all fall chronologically at the beginning of the series, so I don't see why we need to pipelink the names of the subgames when "Kingdom Hearts χ" will suffice. A Fragmentary Passage's position in the chronology is unclear as well, since it takes place an indeterminate amount of time after Birth by Sleep and also takes place at multiple time points within the series, so I don't think it makes sense to place it definitively anywhere on the template, especially if the sources fail to definitively place it too. Melody of Memory is an unreleased game that is speculated to take place after KH3 but all sources saying such are speculation, not proof, so it should be left off for now. Axem Titanium ( talk) 19:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Well Boyohboy231 added both Dark Road and Melody of Memory to the table. Disregarding MoM, I still feel the X games need mention. They still would serve the readers, and I wouldn't necessarily look at this as a "navigation" template because I don't feel that's it's primary purpose. Yes, article links exist, but in my eyes it is more of a quick visualizer of the chronology order for the series. The navigation is just a bonus, so it wouldn't be odd to have non-linked entries. I still think the collapsible sidebar template would serve the content well to satisfy what you visually feel should exist, while including the content I feel should exist. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 02:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
It has been done. A milestone I never really thought would happen, but over the years and in wonderful bursts like this one it came to be! A majority of articles are GA, FA, or FL, and there are no non-featured lists, Stubs, or Starts, all are C-class or better! I will be issuing Barnstars for all nominations and reviewers as part of this campaign. I do not believe anyone has ever accomplished what has been done, and it would not have been possible without, in no particular order, @ ProtoDrake:, @ PresN:, @ Axem Titanium:, @ Abryn:, @ Tintor2:, and @ Blue Pumpkin Pie:. We must also recognized our past heroes as well, such as @ Deckiller:, @ Kung Fu Man:, @ Sjones23:, @ Tom Morris:, @ Ost316:, @ Iftekharahmed96:, User Lucia Black (RIP), @ Ryu Kaze:, and @ Kariteh:, and all our members. Amazing accomplishment, one and all! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 22:18, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
There 93 96 Final Fantasy GAs, so we need 4 more! :)
There are 183 192 Square Enix GAs in total, so once we have our 4 Final Fantasy GAs, we will still need 4 more!
Thoughts? Anyone want to nominate, or say they will nominate them at some point? I added two of mine! Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 17:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
I just got Rinoa Heartilly through GA review, but I read that in the Final Fantasy VIII Ultimania book there is info on her and her dog Angelo. Do any among us own any of those books? I see many references in our projects to those books, so someone must, right? I’d love that info to beef out the article. Even though it just became a GA, an article could always be better, right? CC: @ PresN: @ ProtoDrake: Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 16:26, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Judgesurreal777: According to this Angelo was modeled after a Black Tri Australian Shepherd that one of Tetsuya Nomura's coworkers owned. I know a person who owns the English book so I'll ask her for a proper citation. Tintor2 ( talk) 23:29, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Judgesurreal777: Have you tried googling the Japanese characters in Google, find an appropiate source and then trying Google translate? At least that's what I did with some parts from Haseo. In Rinoa's case, while her original game might be a bit dated in comparison to Haseo's, there might a possiblilty to find the staff members talking about her design in Dissidia NT. Tintor2 ( talk) 21:16, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
A while ago I added to some FFVII characters, info about their characterization from the VII RE Ultimania guidebook, including the Remake article itself too. However, the information about Aerith's take was removed due to the translator not being a reliable source. However, now that I see, some sites focused on Japanaese gaming still used that translation liked Gematsu to make articles in regards to the remake. The person who originally translated all of this has happens to be on Twitter and today I sent a message in regards to the pages of the book containing the interview but still hasn't responded. The user also has a tumblr account but I don't know how to use that. This might be too important if there are plans to turn VII's remake into a GA. Cheers. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:37, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
If we look at the top 31 articles in terms of page views, these articles all get over a thousand views a a day! Pretty cool! But we do have, among those 31, 5 articles, including our number one article, are B’s!
These would be fantastic to get these at least to Good Article Status, who minds or built these articles? It should be a priority I think to see if anyone is interested in helping get one of these to be GA, we want 200 GA’s and our top articles to be GA as well as that’s what people are seeing of our work :) Any volunteers? :) Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 16:09, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
So like this:
Surprisingly there isn't too much about the actors. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:46, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
@ Judgesurreal777: I think I added most of those sources except the one in Japanese. In regards to the narrative's changes I added them to premise but I don't know if they should be moved to another section instead. I would add the changes too to the lead, but the biggest changes of the remake only are explored in the last chapter. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:53, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Done. Tintor2 ( talk) 00:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Can anyone think of places where we might find free use headshots for some of our biographies? In particular, I'm looking for Yasumi Matsuno, Yoko Taro, Tetsuya Nomura, and Masayoshi Soken to help illustrate other articles but lots of WPSE biographies are missing them. I checked the GDC Flickr account which is where we usually get a lot of free pictures, but no dice for them. Axem Titanium ( talk) 11:48, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I was wondering if there was any interest in creating a new article for the current expansion of Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers? NightFire19 ( talk) 17:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
I want to raise a question here. A little time ago, I created an article for the novel Final Fantasy XV: The Dawn of the Future. I feel this was a mistake on my part, as it's received little to no publicity, so as it stands it isn't sustainable. I turned it into a redirect and merged relevant info back into the XV dev article, but Axem Titanium just restored the article.
I think this article needs discussion as to its relevance and chance of remaining sustainable. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 07:34, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
I have a few of the people that make all our Square Enix magic happen up for GA, please review them! Most are not long, have quality sources, sourced works, etc. Not too difficult, and may be more interesting than you may deem! For the list see the 100/200 Drive above. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 21:02, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Can anyone review Template:Did you know nominations/Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers for me please? Willing to trade a GA review or multiple DYK reviews so it can get approved in time for August 11. I'm also planning to nominate it for GA right after if you're in the mood for a deeper review as well. Thanks, Axem Titanium ( talk) 08:53, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
This is a quick reminder about some primary sources for development info that are often overlooked. The Final Fantasy and Square Enix YouTube channels have video development diaries and some of their convention panels. You can use {{ cite AV media}} to cite them (for longer videos, it's helpful to include a timestamp, but not necessary for shorter ones). Also the Final Fantasy Portal Site has developer interviews for older games, in between fluffy user polls. The most recent one was a series of interviews to commemorate the 20th anniversary of FF9. I've been adding them as refideas on individual pages, but I thought I'd point it out again here. Axem Titanium ( talk) 04:06, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Judgesurreal isn't able to finish addressing my GAN comments at Talk:Noctis Lucis Caelum/GA1 due to irl stuff. The article is in solid shape and I've done the whole review already so it'd be a shame to fail it at this point. Is anyone able to take over on this one? Axem Titanium ( talk) 06:27, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
I have nominated Final Fantasy X-2 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. GamerPro64 04:51, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
I've just finished creating an article for the overall Crystal Chronicles series. It almost certainly needs other eyes to do copyediting, the reception section's lacking, and it needs a logo image of some kind for the infobox, but it's there. It can be worked on. -- ProtoDrake ( talk) 19:07, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
I was curious if there was anyone in the project who could translate 2 Japanese interviews for Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory? The 2 articles are on PlayStation Japan and Famitsu. I've done rough translations with Google Translate, and I think there are a few bits in each interview that I'd like to add to the article and I want to make sure what's being added is accurate. Thanks in advance. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 16:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't know if the standard was different for Good Articles back then, but I notice a few GAs that don't hold up.
Mainly the reception sections are either focused on ratings or reduced to just one-sentence commentary about the game. There are probably more articles out there that need to be reviewed further but I'll have to dig deep. it would be a good idea to improve these articles if they ever get re-assessed and de-listed from GAs. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 01:05, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
I can manage FFA, love that game. Best Mana. - Bryn (talk) (contributions) 20:07, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Final Fantasy X-2 is likely to be delisted as an FA in the next few weeks; while improvements have been made during the FAR, the reception section still needs work. Just alerting the project in case anyone has the time/inclination to help it. -- Pres N 13:51, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
In the past couple days, Zxcvbnm has created articles on Cactuar and Tonberry, which... I'm a little iffy on? They're nice starts, but I'm not sure they're independently notable- so far neither article really has solid sourcing beyond listicles, and barely any development/reception, though obviously they were just started. I feel the same way about Moogle, though that's been around a year - it describes the subject, but there's no real development or reception, just sources saying "thing exists". I feel like all three would be better off merged into a section in Recurring elements in the Final Fantasy series. Does anyone else have an opinion? -- Pres N 02:56, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
From what I can see from Tonberry and Cactuar articles are pretty scarce. I don't think they'll survive as they currently stand. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 14:00, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Here's a few more I've found from a quick search, Zxcvbnm you might find this helpful. A couple of crossovers, a real life reference, promotional and merchandise opportunities, and three sources to illustrate the coverage the cactuar mod has received as well as the significance of PC mod support and its possibilities:
If nothing else, the sources I've listed give me the impression that by 2020, the Cactuar seem to be almost on equal footing with the Chocobo and Moogle as far as being a series mascot is concerned. I suspect there's more if we start looking into Japanese language sources. Haleth ( talk) 12:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
I would not call two entire articles, one web and one magazine, about the Cactuar, as well as several paragraph long mentions scratching the surface.
I"m proposing we merge these articles back since they have very little to establish notability.
Support as proposer. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 19:33, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Alright, it's been a week since the last !vote; while there was some support for merging Cactuar it seems it was largely opposed. Tonberry, on the other hand, had a consensus to merge- besides the article creator, the only oppose was Bryn, who opposed on the basis that more sources might exist, though none had/have been found. I'm going to go ahead and merge it to Recurring elements; obviously, if more sources are found in the future, the decision can be revisited. -- Pres N 03:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
So, not too long ago, Square Enix was demoted from GA status. I'm thinking about getting the article back up to GA status and also expand on Square (company) and Enix so we can promote them to GA as well as FA status, using Sega as a model. Thoughts? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 20:50, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
I noticed that Vanguard Storm and Crystal Defenders share an article. Both have a substantial reception and gameplay. I think it might be a good idea to split them. Blue Pumpkin Pie Chat Contribs 18:33, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
So, I'm thinking that we should make Super Mario RPG an FA and feature it as a TFA on March 9, 2021 (the 25th anniversary of its release). Any ideas? Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 20:57, 11 November 2020 (UTC)