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The group indicated above was recently revitalized for, among other things, the purpose of working on those articles whose content is such that the article does not fall within the scope of any particular denomination. To most effectively do this, however, we would benefit greatly if there were at least one member from this Project working on those articles. On that basis, I would encourage and welcome any member of this Project willing to work on those articles to join the Religion WikiProject. Thank you. Badbilltucker 14:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I recently found that our article on Jesus is the first page that appears when anyone does a Google search of the subject. It is currently, regrettably, only at GA status. On that basis, I would request any individuals who might be interested in helping to bring this article up to FA status to indicate their support for the article being chosen as the AID article at Wikipedia:Article Creation and Improvement Drive#Jesus. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
What do you think of the Template I "made"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jannizz ( talk • contribs) 11:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC).
I've searched high and low and I can't find the answer. Can someone please tell me, either here or on my talk page where the template for this is {{WP Adventist|class=start|}}. Thanks! --
Maniwar (
talk)
04:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Which title should an article about Seventh-day Adventist education have? Is that the best one? (I have nominated this as a proposed article on the project page). - Colin MacLaurin 12:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I would also like to propose a category name change. Category:Academies and elementary schools affiliated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church and Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church are very wordy. Admittedly that in the parent categories for all churches, the "affiliated with" terminology is the most common. But see also Category:Mormon universities and colleges, Category:Lutheran universities and colleges, Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges, etc. I propose a rename to Category:Seventh-day Adventist universities and colleges, and similarly for the other.
I don't know if there was a reason for the present naming. In the recent discussion on CfD no consensus was reached regarding this naming, so I guess it is at our discretion. - Colin MacLaurin 12:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Category:Hospitals affiliated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church is also awkwardly named. Independent ministries of the Seventh-day Adventist Church has a similar format, but this one seems more natural. The other similarly worded one is Category:Organisational structures of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, but perhaps this one is OK too. Comments please! Colin MacLaurin 07:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
This deletion discussion may be a place for members of this wikiproject to contribute. Particularly it would be good if someone could find a reference for my statement about her being the second most translated female author in history. Cheers, Ansell 04:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I did a major addition to the page here [1]. Please make comments, to keep the flow here [2]. Thanks! -- Maniwar ( talk) 15:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
The article South Pacific Division of Seventh-day Adventists was deleted in the past, but it is certainly notable for Wikipedia purposes. We need someone to do a little work to establish the article again. Ansell has a backup of the page here. It just needs a bit of work first - in particular, it needs an official founding date and citation for this. Next, there is a process to be followed after a successful AfD ("articles for deletion"). It needs to go to a Deletion Review. Regards, Colin MacLaurin 01:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Currently a few article titles are disambiguated by adding "(Adventist)" to the end. Perhaps we should expand this to "Seventh-day Adventist", because the term "Adventist" is ambiguous. I found Remnant (Adventist), Spirit of Prophecy (Adventist), Eschatology (Adventist), Joseph Bates (Adventist), Liberty (Adventist magazine) and Guide (Adventist magazine). However Pathfinders (Seventh-day Adventist) already has the suggested form. What do you think? Colin MacLaurin 05:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I have proposed a name change on the talk page of the article prophetic gift of Ellen White to "inspiration of Ellen White". So far, no one has contributed to the discussion. Please reply there with a comment. The article has often been subjected to contributions of questionable POV from both sides (overly supportive and overly critical), and I would really appreciate more helpful contributions from editors who respect Wikipedia's policies such as NPOV. Please comment on the name change if nothing else. Cheers, Colin MacLaurin 05:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Tonic and others, I have done a lot of thinking about our discussion on sources to use for Adventist beliefs. I remember a Wikipedia policy stating something like: if there is debate as to which view is the best, just include all the points of view, with citations. I hope that much of our conversation can actually be transferred into articles, e.g. scholarship not always reflecting the average church member etc. We could just say, "There are several angles from which to consider the theology of the church such as official statements, Adventist scholarship, and "popular" material or presenters." I thought of some major Adventist figures who are not scholars but form a major face of the church, like 3ABN, Mark Finley (most well known evangelist? His book Studying Together is a reference for his views), Dwight Nelson and Doug Batchelor. Another good one would be the prophecy seminar, which is often used for outreach, and should be featured in the Eschatology (Adventist) article IMO (I know of several new prophecy seminars currently being developed, so this would probably need some updating in the future). Colin MacLaurin 03:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I see that the Seventh-day Adventist church does not have representation for the Book of Revelation article ([ here]) and it would be nice if someone who is a good writer and knows their stuff would add it. -- Maniwar ( talk) 15:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Do you think the scope of this WikiProject should be expanded to include other Adventist groups, and probably articles on William Miller etc. as well? Note that it is fine for articles to be within the scope of several projects. The Seventh-day Adventist Church is the largest Adventist church by about 100 times, I understand. Of course, it would be important to ask those other Adventists what they think. Colin MacLaurin 20:44, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
I think that we could at least include all articles relating to early Millerites and Adventists, as there is a common heritage. An article such as the Worldwide Church of God is not something that really relates to this project though, in my opinion. I doubt that many Adventists know much about them. However other Sabbatarian Adventists, or anyone else who broke from the SDA church is relevant, IMO. Colin MacLaurin 09:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I now propose that we broaden the scope of this WikiProject to cover all "Adventist" topics generally, not just Seventh-day Adventist topics. It would hence include Millerite topics, the Adventist movement springing from it, and the Seventh-day Adventist Church in particular. Colin MacLaurin ( talk) 05:10, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a new WikiProject task force proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Inter-religious content that is being proposed to deal specifically with articles whose content relates to several religious traditions. Any editors interested in joining such a group would be more than welcome to indicate their interest there. John Carter 15:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have a link to the page where it explains the reasons that Seventh-day Adventist Church failed its FA nomination? What are we still missing? Can we renom it as it is (I think it's pretty good!) or do we need some more work on it? -- Cromwellt| talk| contribs 00:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I've been working to fix all pages that pass through a redirect to the page Seventh-day Adventist Church. There are other pages that can use that kind of help, but even this one page is a lot of work, and since it is the most important for this project.... Any help would be appreciated, of course! Happy editing! -- Cromwellt| talk| contribs 00:21, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I propose a template for (prominent) Seventh-day Adventist magazines and academic journals. A section for academic journals, a section for official church magazines (Record, Adventist Review etc.) and others. Colin MacLaurin 19:06, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Vote at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Moses so as too get Moses into a featured article Java7837 23:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
There has recently been some discussion regarding which "stories" or portions of the Bible merit having their own articles. For the purposes of centralized discussion, please make any comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bible#What should have separate articles?. Thank you. John Carter 13:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
The magazine Adventist Today recently changed its website. All of the references to it from Wikipedia are currently broken. We can either wait to see if they will create redirects on their own site, or update all the Wikipedia links ourselves. Their magazine archives site appears to be still under development. Colin MacLaurin 09:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
If the alternative userboxes with new image possibilities (bottom two) are desirable and used, Wikipedia guidelines state: Create it (them) as a subpage to the WikiProject. Catholicism WP:CCW is following this. Here, this would produce a very long file name unless WP:SDA could be used instead. Quakers WP:WRSOF, with a long name also, have template wording which might convert to Template:User WikiProjectSDA. - Athrash | Talk 21:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
It's been started, if only started. Please see Portal:Seventh-day Adventist Church. John Carter 18:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I would like input into this new proposal: an article " Seventh-day Adventist culture" or similarly titled. One category would be Category:Christian culture. It would also "See also" Seventh-day Adventism in popular culture. What should the scope be? This should be stated clearly at the start of the article. I don't envision a broad definition including theology etc., as that would make it virtually equivalent to the main article. Health practices may well deserve a separate article of their own, since it is a big emphasis in the church and Adventists are also well known for it (externally) as well. Diet? Music? Personality? Education? Nationalities (i.e. very global)?
Here's a cuisine comment which was too trivial for the main article, but may belong in the proposed one (if cited eventually):
Colin MacLaurin 05:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I propose a new article titled, " Conservative Adventism". It would be in contrast to the existing articles Historic Adventism and Progressive Adventism. It would perhaps not be hugely long for the time being, but I believe there are still a lot of good references to it available out there. Some articles are in this SDAPI search. Compare many references in the Progressive Adventism article, to what those authors contrast progressive beliefs to. Compare the quotations in the Adventist Theological Society article, where it is characterised by progressives in 3 separate articles, and also by Woodrow Whidden who is a conservative theologian, and by also the organisation itself which describes itself as "conservative". (I just added two quotes, by members, who claim it is centrist).
Compare Madelynn Jones-Haldeman, "...Adventist liberals are compared and/or contrasted with 'conservative Adventists,' 'historic Adventists,' 'Bible-believing (or EGW-believing) Adventists,' 'traditional Adventists,' 'evangelical Adventists,' 'cultural Adventists,' and/or 'ecumenical Adventists.'" I haven't read the results of studies like Valuegenesis yet, but they would probably contain excellent comments.
I believe there are enough reputable sources right now for such an article. Incidentally, I also believe of course that there will be many more coming in the future. Support or deny? Colin MacLaurin 14:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Also evangelical Adventism (currently a redirect to progressive Adventism) is mentioned a lot, particularly by non-Adventist authors. Perhaps it deserves an article. Colin MacLaurin 06:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
How different would this proposed article from the main project page be for Branch Davidians? I acknowledge my own ignorance of the subject, however, and apologize in advance if it demonstrates my stupidity. John Carter 17:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Currently, there are many external links to non-original versions of various books and articles. In the citation templates, there is a parameter for indicating that the link is not to the original publisher. If these materials are in the public domain, then let's move them to Wikisource (e.g. see Adventist church category there). Many of the externally linked sites are highly POV. Colin MacLaurin 09:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
This may sound like a newbie question, but how do you get an article's rating changed? ( NorthernFalcon 05:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC))
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 |
The group indicated above was recently revitalized for, among other things, the purpose of working on those articles whose content is such that the article does not fall within the scope of any particular denomination. To most effectively do this, however, we would benefit greatly if there were at least one member from this Project working on those articles. On that basis, I would encourage and welcome any member of this Project willing to work on those articles to join the Religion WikiProject. Thank you. Badbilltucker 14:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I recently found that our article on Jesus is the first page that appears when anyone does a Google search of the subject. It is currently, regrettably, only at GA status. On that basis, I would request any individuals who might be interested in helping to bring this article up to FA status to indicate their support for the article being chosen as the AID article at Wikipedia:Article Creation and Improvement Drive#Jesus. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
What do you think of the Template I "made"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jannizz ( talk • contribs) 11:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC).
I've searched high and low and I can't find the answer. Can someone please tell me, either here or on my talk page where the template for this is {{WP Adventist|class=start|}}. Thanks! --
Maniwar (
talk)
04:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Which title should an article about Seventh-day Adventist education have? Is that the best one? (I have nominated this as a proposed article on the project page). - Colin MacLaurin 12:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
I would also like to propose a category name change. Category:Academies and elementary schools affiliated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church and Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church are very wordy. Admittedly that in the parent categories for all churches, the "affiliated with" terminology is the most common. But see also Category:Mormon universities and colleges, Category:Lutheran universities and colleges, Category:Roman Catholic universities and colleges, etc. I propose a rename to Category:Seventh-day Adventist universities and colleges, and similarly for the other.
I don't know if there was a reason for the present naming. In the recent discussion on CfD no consensus was reached regarding this naming, so I guess it is at our discretion. - Colin MacLaurin 12:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Category:Hospitals affiliated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church is also awkwardly named. Independent ministries of the Seventh-day Adventist Church has a similar format, but this one seems more natural. The other similarly worded one is Category:Organisational structures of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, but perhaps this one is OK too. Comments please! Colin MacLaurin 07:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
This deletion discussion may be a place for members of this wikiproject to contribute. Particularly it would be good if someone could find a reference for my statement about her being the second most translated female author in history. Cheers, Ansell 04:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I did a major addition to the page here [1]. Please make comments, to keep the flow here [2]. Thanks! -- Maniwar ( talk) 15:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
The article South Pacific Division of Seventh-day Adventists was deleted in the past, but it is certainly notable for Wikipedia purposes. We need someone to do a little work to establish the article again. Ansell has a backup of the page here. It just needs a bit of work first - in particular, it needs an official founding date and citation for this. Next, there is a process to be followed after a successful AfD ("articles for deletion"). It needs to go to a Deletion Review. Regards, Colin MacLaurin 01:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Currently a few article titles are disambiguated by adding "(Adventist)" to the end. Perhaps we should expand this to "Seventh-day Adventist", because the term "Adventist" is ambiguous. I found Remnant (Adventist), Spirit of Prophecy (Adventist), Eschatology (Adventist), Joseph Bates (Adventist), Liberty (Adventist magazine) and Guide (Adventist magazine). However Pathfinders (Seventh-day Adventist) already has the suggested form. What do you think? Colin MacLaurin 05:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I have proposed a name change on the talk page of the article prophetic gift of Ellen White to "inspiration of Ellen White". So far, no one has contributed to the discussion. Please reply there with a comment. The article has often been subjected to contributions of questionable POV from both sides (overly supportive and overly critical), and I would really appreciate more helpful contributions from editors who respect Wikipedia's policies such as NPOV. Please comment on the name change if nothing else. Cheers, Colin MacLaurin 05:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Tonic and others, I have done a lot of thinking about our discussion on sources to use for Adventist beliefs. I remember a Wikipedia policy stating something like: if there is debate as to which view is the best, just include all the points of view, with citations. I hope that much of our conversation can actually be transferred into articles, e.g. scholarship not always reflecting the average church member etc. We could just say, "There are several angles from which to consider the theology of the church such as official statements, Adventist scholarship, and "popular" material or presenters." I thought of some major Adventist figures who are not scholars but form a major face of the church, like 3ABN, Mark Finley (most well known evangelist? His book Studying Together is a reference for his views), Dwight Nelson and Doug Batchelor. Another good one would be the prophecy seminar, which is often used for outreach, and should be featured in the Eschatology (Adventist) article IMO (I know of several new prophecy seminars currently being developed, so this would probably need some updating in the future). Colin MacLaurin 03:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I see that the Seventh-day Adventist church does not have representation for the Book of Revelation article ([ here]) and it would be nice if someone who is a good writer and knows their stuff would add it. -- Maniwar ( talk) 15:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Do you think the scope of this WikiProject should be expanded to include other Adventist groups, and probably articles on William Miller etc. as well? Note that it is fine for articles to be within the scope of several projects. The Seventh-day Adventist Church is the largest Adventist church by about 100 times, I understand. Of course, it would be important to ask those other Adventists what they think. Colin MacLaurin 20:44, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
I think that we could at least include all articles relating to early Millerites and Adventists, as there is a common heritage. An article such as the Worldwide Church of God is not something that really relates to this project though, in my opinion. I doubt that many Adventists know much about them. However other Sabbatarian Adventists, or anyone else who broke from the SDA church is relevant, IMO. Colin MacLaurin 09:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I now propose that we broaden the scope of this WikiProject to cover all "Adventist" topics generally, not just Seventh-day Adventist topics. It would hence include Millerite topics, the Adventist movement springing from it, and the Seventh-day Adventist Church in particular. Colin MacLaurin ( talk) 05:10, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a new WikiProject task force proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Inter-religious content that is being proposed to deal specifically with articles whose content relates to several religious traditions. Any editors interested in joining such a group would be more than welcome to indicate their interest there. John Carter 15:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have a link to the page where it explains the reasons that Seventh-day Adventist Church failed its FA nomination? What are we still missing? Can we renom it as it is (I think it's pretty good!) or do we need some more work on it? -- Cromwellt| talk| contribs 00:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I've been working to fix all pages that pass through a redirect to the page Seventh-day Adventist Church. There are other pages that can use that kind of help, but even this one page is a lot of work, and since it is the most important for this project.... Any help would be appreciated, of course! Happy editing! -- Cromwellt| talk| contribs 00:21, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I propose a template for (prominent) Seventh-day Adventist magazines and academic journals. A section for academic journals, a section for official church magazines (Record, Adventist Review etc.) and others. Colin MacLaurin 19:06, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Vote at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Moses so as too get Moses into a featured article Java7837 23:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
There has recently been some discussion regarding which "stories" or portions of the Bible merit having their own articles. For the purposes of centralized discussion, please make any comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bible#What should have separate articles?. Thank you. John Carter 13:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
The magazine Adventist Today recently changed its website. All of the references to it from Wikipedia are currently broken. We can either wait to see if they will create redirects on their own site, or update all the Wikipedia links ourselves. Their magazine archives site appears to be still under development. Colin MacLaurin 09:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
If the alternative userboxes with new image possibilities (bottom two) are desirable and used, Wikipedia guidelines state: Create it (them) as a subpage to the WikiProject. Catholicism WP:CCW is following this. Here, this would produce a very long file name unless WP:SDA could be used instead. Quakers WP:WRSOF, with a long name also, have template wording which might convert to Template:User WikiProjectSDA. - Athrash | Talk 21:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
It's been started, if only started. Please see Portal:Seventh-day Adventist Church. John Carter 18:26, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
I would like input into this new proposal: an article " Seventh-day Adventist culture" or similarly titled. One category would be Category:Christian culture. It would also "See also" Seventh-day Adventism in popular culture. What should the scope be? This should be stated clearly at the start of the article. I don't envision a broad definition including theology etc., as that would make it virtually equivalent to the main article. Health practices may well deserve a separate article of their own, since it is a big emphasis in the church and Adventists are also well known for it (externally) as well. Diet? Music? Personality? Education? Nationalities (i.e. very global)?
Here's a cuisine comment which was too trivial for the main article, but may belong in the proposed one (if cited eventually):
Colin MacLaurin 05:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I propose a new article titled, " Conservative Adventism". It would be in contrast to the existing articles Historic Adventism and Progressive Adventism. It would perhaps not be hugely long for the time being, but I believe there are still a lot of good references to it available out there. Some articles are in this SDAPI search. Compare many references in the Progressive Adventism article, to what those authors contrast progressive beliefs to. Compare the quotations in the Adventist Theological Society article, where it is characterised by progressives in 3 separate articles, and also by Woodrow Whidden who is a conservative theologian, and by also the organisation itself which describes itself as "conservative". (I just added two quotes, by members, who claim it is centrist).
Compare Madelynn Jones-Haldeman, "...Adventist liberals are compared and/or contrasted with 'conservative Adventists,' 'historic Adventists,' 'Bible-believing (or EGW-believing) Adventists,' 'traditional Adventists,' 'evangelical Adventists,' 'cultural Adventists,' and/or 'ecumenical Adventists.'" I haven't read the results of studies like Valuegenesis yet, but they would probably contain excellent comments.
I believe there are enough reputable sources right now for such an article. Incidentally, I also believe of course that there will be many more coming in the future. Support or deny? Colin MacLaurin 14:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Also evangelical Adventism (currently a redirect to progressive Adventism) is mentioned a lot, particularly by non-Adventist authors. Perhaps it deserves an article. Colin MacLaurin 06:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
How different would this proposed article from the main project page be for Branch Davidians? I acknowledge my own ignorance of the subject, however, and apologize in advance if it demonstrates my stupidity. John Carter 17:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Currently, there are many external links to non-original versions of various books and articles. In the citation templates, there is a parameter for indicating that the link is not to the original publisher. If these materials are in the public domain, then let's move them to Wikisource (e.g. see Adventist church category there). Many of the externally linked sites are highly POV. Colin MacLaurin 09:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
This may sound like a newbie question, but how do you get an article's rating changed? ( NorthernFalcon 05:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC))