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Have relocated this dialgoue to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sticks66#Copyright_free_photos_for_our_articles_on_Aust_RL_Old_Timers.
Since it took lots of space and the job is now done (thanks to Florrie) - Sticks 66 12:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Today, the ARL announced that WorldCup games would be equal to Test matches for all australians.
Previously, players only had their test matches recorded against their nmes.
Now both are counted.
Eg. Darren Lockyer has played 36 tests, but now is considered to have played 41.
We may need to change various players infoboxs.
Proof: nrl.com (Go to http://nrl.com/News/Latest/tabid/10244/default.aspx?id=50299)
The Windler talk 08:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Let's be quite clear about this and what we're agreeing as a result of this NRL reclassification:
Stephen Knight (rugby footballer) only played two RWC pool games, they were always Intls just not Tests & in some books and some of our articles a distinction has been made between the two. As a result of the NRL reclassification we no longer need make the distinction.
Wayne Bennett played only tour matches and Jeff how you propose we show that in the infobox is by having the Australian rep classification appear but with (0) next to it. I'm not sure this is necessarily a crystal-clear disclosure but like you I don't necessarily believe that an Infobox needs tell the full story since that's what the body of an article is for. So in the absence of a better suggestion I agree with the approach.
I think it's important to clarify though that Bennett was undoubtedly an International. Similarly Jim Lisle is unquestionably referred to as a dual-code international even though all his RL national appearances were only tour matches. Perhaps we should just leave this "full international" distinction to other sources. So I'm sorry I brought it up. Sticks 66 07:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I feel quite proud of these I made:
Hope you like it. The Windler talk 07:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
These were simple:
The Windler talk 11:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
The Windler talk 06:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Hope that helps, anybody. The Windler talk 01:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
In reference to the discussion earlier, where Florrie uploaded many images from archives.
Just as a hint: for Florrie and future image uploaders.
Please put the source of the image on the image summary page. This will prevent the image from being deleted. The Windler talk 06:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Why does this page archive so quickly? I don't think it's excessively long. Can someone fix it? It is ok if it builds up a bit y'know. People may take time getting around to replying to these threads.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 07:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Just a quick question/test:
Is there any user who can't see the following picture, directly below this line
If this works/dosent work respond. Please do, Thanks.
It is above this line, and when you click it, it goes to directly to an article instead of the Image file.
Just a test. It's not about the picture but the code. Any responds would be appreciated. Thanks The Windler talk 10:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I am doing a study on collaborative writing on Wikipedia - I hope to present a paper on the topic at Wikimania. If you would like to be interviewed over email, please leave a note on my talk page or email me. Thanks! Awadewit ( talk) 17:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
As the Team of the Century will be announced next Thursday night, should we organise a format for the player's articles? I also wondered if it would be possible to use the official graphic on the articles? Would it pass muster do you think? • Florrie• leave a note• 02:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Am I right in thinking that because the Position field is a sub-set of "Current Club" then I have to have an entry in Club in order for the position to show ? If so this seems a little clunky. I don't mind inserting "Retired" for recent players but with some of the old timers either "Retired" or "Deceased" seems a bit crass . What do we think ? - Sticks 66 12:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I propose that we seperate the years a player plays at a place.
That didn't make sense, even to me, so I use examples.
| year1 = 1989&!ndash;1995
But I question, other than us dedicated rugby league project users, who is going to put the &!ndash; (Even I admit that I hardly do it)(The ! is there to prevent it doing the dash)
But if we seperate the parameter to say:
| year1start = 1989 | year1end = 1995
And in the template syntax it puts the dash there, it would be easier. The Windler talk 02:07, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Added a link for this page to the main project page. Londo 06 15:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Florrie, I have done the Wests Tigers 2008 jerseys, and am working on their previous ones now. The 08 ones are on my gallery page.
I have done all jerseys except the Warriors, Raiders, Sharks, old Gold Coast, Hunter, Knights, , Parramatta, Penirth, Norths and Western Reds (and Wests Tigers). Though most of them I plan to do soon, except Warriors.
The Windler
talk
06:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Since we're all for canvassing each other at the moment to try to get consensus. here's one from me. I really struggle with the body-copy assertionHis position of choice is at....... Do we really know a player's position of choice ? And mightn't it change over his career ? Today I saw one that said Greg Bird's position of choice is either second row, lock or five-eighth. What, can't he make his mind up ? My suggestion is that we make only a factual assertion eg He plays at either...... or He played most of his career at ...... Or as a complete alternative sometimes work it into a broader leading paragraph Greg Bird is a representative Australian RL blah-blah, a lock-forward whose club career is with blah-blah... Any views ? - Sticks 66 12:54, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't like the phrase "position of choice", it jars badly. If people must refer to a favourite position then another phrase ought to be found. GordyB ( talk) 13:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I think this might all track back to myself. I think I would originally have taken this from a former rugby union players page. While it is fine for a player who no longer played the game, and indeed have a position that he preferred it holds water, it probably does rankle a few, possibly even myself. The reason I have used it is that primarily plays at needs as much a citation as choice. Is, plays as, as, all have merits. Looking through a variety of sporting articles over the last year there does not appear to be a standard that is adhered to. Probably one out there, or an option or two that can be agreed upon. Londo 06 19:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I've updated the Eric Weissel Oval article and added some sources. Not a lot of history that is public with most hidden (I'll need access of the Regional Archives at CSU Wagga but unlikely to happen). The oval isn't used now (which is a huge shame). Bidgee ( talk) 10:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Today's Did you know? is updated with fact from the article on Brian Hambly. Who would have thought that the world might care about Australia's 100 Greatest Players! - Sticks 66 06:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Some of the votes were unresolved. We now need to reach consesus on the issues that were unresolved. When all decisions are mad, we should be able to change the infobox over. Sorry for my overediting too. The Windler talk 07:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for the dumb question, but where is the archive for the RL:Project talk page ? - Sticks 66 13:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
User:CapitalR is moving all the navboxes to 100%. If we are going to do the same, some people will have to put their hands up to sort out how the names are viewed within that box. The boxes were alligned for 80% so if there is a demand for the full-width then it should probably be posted here. I believe there was a discussion a few days back about this, but couldn't see it on quick inspection. Alexsanderson83 ( talk) 15:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
If we just make it 100% it will all be over. I'm for it. Let's just be done with it.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 11:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
If we use 80% width then it's only gonna be us. While rugby union seems to use 75% and the rest of wikipedia uses 100%. If union decides to follow the rest of wikipedia it will only be us that aren't 100% and then we'll probably change too. So why wait? Let's shoot it in the head now.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 09:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't really know what that means. On the computers I use the contents (names) are always centred.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 11:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Maybe I'm just lucky. I don't see any problem with any navbox contents in my browser.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 17:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Internet explorer.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 05:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Moved a couple of remaining navboxes to 100%. They seemed to be in the majority, I'm not sure of the outcome of consensus but it was the Template:Navbox RL squad that has now been set to full width. Londo 06 13:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I was never a Parramatta fan but I've become hooked on expanding the Jack Gibson article and am getting stuck right into it. Could we somehow find a free photo ? Could we ? - Sticks 66 13:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I'll doubt we'll ever find a free photo (other than when 70 years ago rule). But because he has passed on, fair use changes and we can use copyright pictures differently. But maybe we should wait a while. The Windler talk 12:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Since your not meant to have lists of quotes on Wikipedia, i have started Rugby League quotes on Wikiquote. There is Jack Gibson with his various quotes (of which many are still unlisted) and Rugby League with various quotes from different sources. You may you wish to add more or anyone else who is known for their quotes. These are under Category:Rugby league, which can be found here: [1]. Boylo ( talk) 12:33, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I've just been doing a little work on the Rugby League Week article (primarily doing the infobox) and to get it a bit better I have a couple of requests:
Thanks guys! -- Nasica ( talk) 06:23, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Just added a photo and infobox on the Steve Mortimer article. I've added brief information into the infobox so it still needs to be completed. Bidgee ( talk) 11:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to say, I've got no idea who these are. - Sticks 66 02:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
List of who was here (May help to find who is the other two are). Immortals John Raper, Reg Gasnier, Graeme Langlands, Legends' Arthur Summons, Steve Mortimer, Chris Mortimer, Peter Mortimer, Cliff Llyons, David Barnhill, Doug Cameron, Greg Brentnall, Greg Hawick, John Kelly, Laurie Daley, Len Bertoldo, Paul Field, Ray Beavan, Ron Crowe, Tom Raudonikis, Phil Jackson, Bill Deacon. Striked is photos already added. I hope it helps.
Bidgee (
talk)
07:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
A discussion re the naming of the Bulldogs articles occurred here at an article for deletion review. Have left a message on the talk page of the person who made the redirects, Brewcrewer, as well as at the deletion discussion, but so far no response. • Florrie• leave a note• 07:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I have now completed all jerseys for all NSWRL/ARL/SL/NRL teams past and present (even the Wests Tigers and Warriors) as well as the NSW, QLD and Australia jerseys past and present. For the NZ national team I only have the present jersey, because of lack of info. Hope that helps and you are free to use them or look at them at Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby league/Team jerseys. I will only make jerseys on request, with a picture of the jersey from now. The Windler talk 10:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I think the jersey images in the galleries for season articles need to be smaller.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 13:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Have relocated this dialgoue to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sticks66#Copyright_free_photos_for_our_articles_on_Aust_RL_Old_Timers.
Since it took lots of space and the job is now done (thanks to Florrie) - Sticks 66 12:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Today, the ARL announced that WorldCup games would be equal to Test matches for all australians.
Previously, players only had their test matches recorded against their nmes.
Now both are counted.
Eg. Darren Lockyer has played 36 tests, but now is considered to have played 41.
We may need to change various players infoboxs.
Proof: nrl.com (Go to http://nrl.com/News/Latest/tabid/10244/default.aspx?id=50299)
The Windler talk 08:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Let's be quite clear about this and what we're agreeing as a result of this NRL reclassification:
Stephen Knight (rugby footballer) only played two RWC pool games, they were always Intls just not Tests & in some books and some of our articles a distinction has been made between the two. As a result of the NRL reclassification we no longer need make the distinction.
Wayne Bennett played only tour matches and Jeff how you propose we show that in the infobox is by having the Australian rep classification appear but with (0) next to it. I'm not sure this is necessarily a crystal-clear disclosure but like you I don't necessarily believe that an Infobox needs tell the full story since that's what the body of an article is for. So in the absence of a better suggestion I agree with the approach.
I think it's important to clarify though that Bennett was undoubtedly an International. Similarly Jim Lisle is unquestionably referred to as a dual-code international even though all his RL national appearances were only tour matches. Perhaps we should just leave this "full international" distinction to other sources. So I'm sorry I brought it up. Sticks 66 07:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I feel quite proud of these I made:
Hope you like it. The Windler talk 07:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
These were simple:
The Windler talk 11:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
The Windler talk 06:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Hope that helps, anybody. The Windler talk 01:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
In reference to the discussion earlier, where Florrie uploaded many images from archives.
Just as a hint: for Florrie and future image uploaders.
Please put the source of the image on the image summary page. This will prevent the image from being deleted. The Windler talk 06:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Why does this page archive so quickly? I don't think it's excessively long. Can someone fix it? It is ok if it builds up a bit y'know. People may take time getting around to replying to these threads.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 07:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Just a quick question/test:
Is there any user who can't see the following picture, directly below this line
If this works/dosent work respond. Please do, Thanks.
It is above this line, and when you click it, it goes to directly to an article instead of the Image file.
Just a test. It's not about the picture but the code. Any responds would be appreciated. Thanks The Windler talk 10:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I am doing a study on collaborative writing on Wikipedia - I hope to present a paper on the topic at Wikimania. If you would like to be interviewed over email, please leave a note on my talk page or email me. Thanks! Awadewit ( talk) 17:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
As the Team of the Century will be announced next Thursday night, should we organise a format for the player's articles? I also wondered if it would be possible to use the official graphic on the articles? Would it pass muster do you think? • Florrie• leave a note• 02:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Am I right in thinking that because the Position field is a sub-set of "Current Club" then I have to have an entry in Club in order for the position to show ? If so this seems a little clunky. I don't mind inserting "Retired" for recent players but with some of the old timers either "Retired" or "Deceased" seems a bit crass . What do we think ? - Sticks 66 12:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I propose that we seperate the years a player plays at a place.
That didn't make sense, even to me, so I use examples.
| year1 = 1989&!ndash;1995
But I question, other than us dedicated rugby league project users, who is going to put the &!ndash; (Even I admit that I hardly do it)(The ! is there to prevent it doing the dash)
But if we seperate the parameter to say:
| year1start = 1989 | year1end = 1995
And in the template syntax it puts the dash there, it would be easier. The Windler talk 02:07, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Added a link for this page to the main project page. Londo 06 15:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Florrie, I have done the Wests Tigers 2008 jerseys, and am working on their previous ones now. The 08 ones are on my gallery page.
I have done all jerseys except the Warriors, Raiders, Sharks, old Gold Coast, Hunter, Knights, , Parramatta, Penirth, Norths and Western Reds (and Wests Tigers). Though most of them I plan to do soon, except Warriors.
The Windler
talk
06:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Since we're all for canvassing each other at the moment to try to get consensus. here's one from me. I really struggle with the body-copy assertionHis position of choice is at....... Do we really know a player's position of choice ? And mightn't it change over his career ? Today I saw one that said Greg Bird's position of choice is either second row, lock or five-eighth. What, can't he make his mind up ? My suggestion is that we make only a factual assertion eg He plays at either...... or He played most of his career at ...... Or as a complete alternative sometimes work it into a broader leading paragraph Greg Bird is a representative Australian RL blah-blah, a lock-forward whose club career is with blah-blah... Any views ? - Sticks 66 12:54, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't like the phrase "position of choice", it jars badly. If people must refer to a favourite position then another phrase ought to be found. GordyB ( talk) 13:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I think this might all track back to myself. I think I would originally have taken this from a former rugby union players page. While it is fine for a player who no longer played the game, and indeed have a position that he preferred it holds water, it probably does rankle a few, possibly even myself. The reason I have used it is that primarily plays at needs as much a citation as choice. Is, plays as, as, all have merits. Looking through a variety of sporting articles over the last year there does not appear to be a standard that is adhered to. Probably one out there, or an option or two that can be agreed upon. Londo 06 19:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I've updated the Eric Weissel Oval article and added some sources. Not a lot of history that is public with most hidden (I'll need access of the Regional Archives at CSU Wagga but unlikely to happen). The oval isn't used now (which is a huge shame). Bidgee ( talk) 10:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Today's Did you know? is updated with fact from the article on Brian Hambly. Who would have thought that the world might care about Australia's 100 Greatest Players! - Sticks 66 06:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Some of the votes were unresolved. We now need to reach consesus on the issues that were unresolved. When all decisions are mad, we should be able to change the infobox over. Sorry for my overediting too. The Windler talk 07:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for the dumb question, but where is the archive for the RL:Project talk page ? - Sticks 66 13:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
User:CapitalR is moving all the navboxes to 100%. If we are going to do the same, some people will have to put their hands up to sort out how the names are viewed within that box. The boxes were alligned for 80% so if there is a demand for the full-width then it should probably be posted here. I believe there was a discussion a few days back about this, but couldn't see it on quick inspection. Alexsanderson83 ( talk) 15:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
If we just make it 100% it will all be over. I'm for it. Let's just be done with it.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 11:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
If we use 80% width then it's only gonna be us. While rugby union seems to use 75% and the rest of wikipedia uses 100%. If union decides to follow the rest of wikipedia it will only be us that aren't 100% and then we'll probably change too. So why wait? Let's shoot it in the head now.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 09:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't really know what that means. On the computers I use the contents (names) are always centred.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 11:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Maybe I'm just lucky. I don't see any problem with any navbox contents in my browser.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 17:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Internet explorer.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 05:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Moved a couple of remaining navboxes to 100%. They seemed to be in the majority, I'm not sure of the outcome of consensus but it was the Template:Navbox RL squad that has now been set to full width. Londo 06 13:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I was never a Parramatta fan but I've become hooked on expanding the Jack Gibson article and am getting stuck right into it. Could we somehow find a free photo ? Could we ? - Sticks 66 13:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I'll doubt we'll ever find a free photo (other than when 70 years ago rule). But because he has passed on, fair use changes and we can use copyright pictures differently. But maybe we should wait a while. The Windler talk 12:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Since your not meant to have lists of quotes on Wikipedia, i have started Rugby League quotes on Wikiquote. There is Jack Gibson with his various quotes (of which many are still unlisted) and Rugby League with various quotes from different sources. You may you wish to add more or anyone else who is known for their quotes. These are under Category:Rugby league, which can be found here: [1]. Boylo ( talk) 12:33, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I've just been doing a little work on the Rugby League Week article (primarily doing the infobox) and to get it a bit better I have a couple of requests:
Thanks guys! -- Nasica ( talk) 06:23, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Just added a photo and infobox on the Steve Mortimer article. I've added brief information into the infobox so it still needs to be completed. Bidgee ( talk) 11:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to say, I've got no idea who these are. - Sticks 66 02:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
List of who was here (May help to find who is the other two are). Immortals John Raper, Reg Gasnier, Graeme Langlands, Legends' Arthur Summons, Steve Mortimer, Chris Mortimer, Peter Mortimer, Cliff Llyons, David Barnhill, Doug Cameron, Greg Brentnall, Greg Hawick, John Kelly, Laurie Daley, Len Bertoldo, Paul Field, Ray Beavan, Ron Crowe, Tom Raudonikis, Phil Jackson, Bill Deacon. Striked is photos already added. I hope it helps.
Bidgee (
talk)
07:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
A discussion re the naming of the Bulldogs articles occurred here at an article for deletion review. Have left a message on the talk page of the person who made the redirects, Brewcrewer, as well as at the deletion discussion, but so far no response. • Florrie• leave a note• 07:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I have now completed all jerseys for all NSWRL/ARL/SL/NRL teams past and present (even the Wests Tigers and Warriors) as well as the NSW, QLD and Australia jerseys past and present. For the NZ national team I only have the present jersey, because of lack of info. Hope that helps and you are free to use them or look at them at Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby league/Team jerseys. I will only make jerseys on request, with a picture of the jersey from now. The Windler talk 10:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I think the jersey images in the galleries for season articles need to be smaller.-- Jeff79 ( talk) 13:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)