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This project is launched to make articles related to Protected areas of India an Featured. Pls. join this project. Amartyabag (Talk) 10:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Since there are only 4 of us at present, we should probably have a collaboration of the month - and informally or formally decide on one topic from the candidates. ray 22:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Reasons for working on this topic are:
Atulsnischal 07:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Would you be interested in the newly formed Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India ?
Cheers. ray 04:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
You may be interested in joining the group for discussions leading to article improvement on wikipedia in the area of Indian biodiversity. Shyamal 07:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Ray and Shyamal for inviting me, I will love to contribute much more to Wikipedia on India’s Natural Heritage and Wildlife etc. which are interests close to my heart but I am still not so good in keyboarding, that makes me really very slow. I really admire the work on Wikipedia that anybody can access easily, especially the growing work on wildlife and conservation in India that you all are generating. I am glad you all have got together for Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India and am sure overtime coordinated effort by members will improve the coverage systematically. I feel very happy that in the long-term this material will be easily available to younger generation, school kids and budding naturalists not only of our region but worldwide spurring their love and respect for environment as a whole.
I really admire your efforts and enjoy your work.
Atul Singh Nischal Atulsnischal ( talk · contribs)
Atulsnischal 02:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Zoos in India dont have websites of their own yet, but this is a great example that stands out:
Located in: Chandaka forest ???
Atulsnischal 03:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Noticed another website of an Indian Zoo:
Atulsnischal 04:06, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
The article is presently a stub.
Protected area | |
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Location | Village, Town, District |
Nearest city | City, State |
Coordinates | 25°0′0″N 75°0′0″E / 25.00000°N 75.00000°E |
Area |
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Established | Year |
Visitors |
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Governing body | Dept of___, Ministry of___ |
Blank Protected areas of India/Infobox for use in Protected areas of India Articles.
You may list yourself in the
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You can also add the {{ User WINDPA}} user box to your userpage. Inclusion of the userbox will automatically add you to the user category.
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User:Marcus334|Marcus]] 22:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Template:WikiProject Protected areas of India similiar to:
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This is an additional forum which has many Wikipedia supporters who may not be very WikiSavvy. All are welcome to: group:|Wikipedians for Indian Naturefor discussions leading to article improvement on Wikipedia in the area of Nature in India. Shyamal 07:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal 07:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Please make use of this notice board if needed (Link also included in our Taxbok).
Atulsnischal 16:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
For Common Indian Monitor scientific page, somebody is threating to take the para out
This section possibly contains
original research. |
Shivaji's general Tanaji Malusare used Shivaji’s famous pet monitor lizard which is locally known as ghorpad named "Yeshwanti" with a rope tied around its waist for climbing up the walls of the Sinhagad fort from it’s steepest and the least guarded side in the dead of a moonless night during the Battle of Sinhagad. Once he had scaled up himself after the giant lizard, up the sheer steep cliff unnoticed, he threw down rope ladders for others to climb. citation neededThis Common Indian Monitor (Varanus bengalensis) found locally in present day Maharashtra is the species of Monitor Lizard said to have been used which is also known as ghorpad in Marathi. citation needed
Ghorpads are famous for their ability to cling to smooth surfaces, and were traditionally trained for this purpose by herders in the area. citation needed
Thanks
Atulsnischal 22:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I noticed User:Ragib started editing the the bengal monitor page by distorting the historical anecdote of Maratha over Mugal victory first. Strange. Made it into a "persistant myth" from fact, now he wants a reference for each sentence otherwise he threatened to take the pagragraph out.
Atulsnischal 00:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear Atulnischal, I'm not sure what grand plan you have in mind, but copying the section on Flora and Fauna from the India page and pasting it to create a new article and then referencing it on the India page itself requires some explanation. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 23:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC) User talk:Saravask
"Wildlife of India" deserves an article in its own right, "Wildlife of India" is a popular term that people look for and search for on the internet, school kids, nature lovers and people who want to go on nature and eco-tourism trips etc. General people and younger generation looking for Info on Indian wildlife do not look for scientific and little known and boring words like Fauna or Flora or terminology like Protected areas of India etc. All this can be brought together under "Wildlife of India" article by a popular and commonly used and searched name. As per the content of this article: everybody is free to edit and add info on it.
Thanks, sincerely
Atulsnischal 23:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Kindly contribute to this article when you get time, and request others too.
Thanks
Atulsnischal 17:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I have added a dashboard to the project page. It really helps with collaboration in the India project. Hope it helps here too. Regards, Ganeshk ( talk) 18:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Natural history-India emailing list aids NGOs and Grassroots workers along with scientists, researchers, naturalists and nature lovers, it is India's premiere list in these aspects and on Conservation and Natural History.
Please help edit and save this article about this important Mailing List, it has come up for deletion because there are very less references on the net or I was not able to find any good ones.
Please help when you have time, improve article to save it and also vote for keeping it here:
PLEASE VOTE TO KEEP THIS ARTICLE, Cast your Vote on the following Link:
Thankyou all
Atulsnischal 10:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
By the way you voted in a second after my post for help in the project page, you said it is a non notable list in a second without any research, now you are making stories.
This article on the list is included in the articles we are developing in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India, so I asked for help there.
Atulsnischal 11:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Stop following me around on Wikipedia Rajib since the Bengal Monitor incident, I told you Wildlife of Bangladesh needs work, please get some people from Bangladesh Project to develop the article.
Thanks
Atulsnischal 11:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal 11:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Please stop doing me favors Ragib, lets just make contributions, that list is not a "non notable list" Ok, it is infact the most notable list. The article just needs some improvement and editing, if you can help, great, if you cant let others.
Thanks
Atulsnischal 11:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
By the way you voted in a second after my post for help in the project page, you said it is a non notable list in a second without any research, now you are making stories.
This article on the list is included in the articles we are developing in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India, so I asked for help there.
Atulsnischal 11:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Atul, The nathistory-india page may be revived. It would perhaps not have gone to afd if you spent some time on writing carefully. Would suggest that some time is spent on reading and studying the structure of featured articles. You will note for instance that the captions on most of these articles are short and precise. The body text should also be in the encyclopaedic style. Advocacy is not to be included (for instance a statement like "We should save this species" would almost invite an afd to your doorstep). Cite the best references, place material in context and do not add too many or irrelevant external links or see alsos. That should take you a long way. cheers. Shyamal 01:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Shyamal, I have a few things to say too
They started the deletion process because they said, IT IS A NON-NOTABLE List, which is of course not true at all as you and I both know.
Also People of all skill levels are welcome to edit and contribute to Wikipedia and such, it was basically an article that had the correct vision, but needed editing help, you know what I mean, a technical writer's touch.
This list itself is a new media thing and people have to still wakeup to such networking platforms like these and appreciate their contribution to society, unfortunately journalists have not yet realized the potential to do features on lists from time to time which would have been really very handy to quote. The paucity of Newspaper articles about the list was also the main issue as it could have established the notability in a second. There are several Wildlife and Conservation Journalists on the list though, just have not woken up to a new living and breathing thing.
Also 95% of the writers out there are not scientific writers, or technical writers, assistants usually take care of these little things for them.
And as far as contributions on Wikipedia go, people are supposed to help edit and rewrite articles here to improve their quality, correct spellings of others, punctuations, rearrange facts and paragraphs to provide a better flow, provide proper sources, ............ who ever gave you the idea the that the contributor who started the page / article needs to finish it. Over the years hundreds or thousands of people should help improve an article and update it from time to time and NOT put it up for deletion on the third day, this kind of behavior discredits Wikipedia itself.
Since I did lot of research on Asiatic Lion hence I noticed another short coming of purely scientific or technical writing, you guys do not hesitate at all to quote an article even though the article may have all nonsense in it, Asiatic Cheetah Diet is still quoted from a bad source with nonsense in it, the National Geographic article from 2000 on Asiatic Lions has nonsense that Asiatic Lions are highly inbred, but technical writers dont hesitate quoting such reputable sources and present it as gods own truth.
Now lets come to our project "Protected Areas of India" or Zoos, you guys are so busy technically writing and correctly quoting that you forget that basics like, how much is the ticket, how to reach, closest railway or airport, what is the best season to visit, what are the accommodations offered, are guides and rides / cars available, who are the contacts etc., any special clothing suggested (Snakes, mosquitos), etc. etc. are also import information that should be included and will be useful to the reader, there is ofcourse no need for us to sell a holiday package to them but a little reader oriented info would be definitely useful to include in an Encyclopedia. A little bit of thinking outside the box is needed for techies.......
I have already told you guys that I really appreciate your efforts, so don't think otherwise. I have even made an effort to tell India about it, here is the link:
https://lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0702&L=nathistory-india&T=0&F=&S=&P=14871
Thanks for your help though.
Atulsnischal 07:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal 04:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
This article needs to be deleted. Its worthless having such an article. It is even shameful to be called as a stub. I think if the PA of India workgroup can do something about this page. Thanks Sushant gupta 07:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
This Conservation and India & South Asia related Wikipedia Article had been nominated for deletion as some felt this Natural History of South Asia mailing list / "Natural History Network" is not notable enough to deserve an article on Wikipedia, to the contrary Wikipedia did not find any reason to delete this article and Restored it. For those interested and for a general record, provided here are the links to the deletion debates which this article passed:
Thanks Atulsnischal 06:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Click for information on animals, 27 Oct, 2004 TIMES NEWS NETWORK
National chemical laboratory's Centre for Biodiversity Informatics, NCBI's IndFauna Website, A Work in Progress currently, also click on "An Appeal" under: IndFauna (Search IndFauna)
Atulsnischal 11:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
These are stub class I started, kindly improve when you have time, also enter in all related lists etc.
Thanks Atulsnischal 09:02, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I created a template for World Heritage Sites: {{ Infobox World Heritage Site}}. Since many protected areas tend to overlap with World Heritage-designated places, will it be possible to re-format the template in the same way as the Level 1, 2, 3... style? In that way, we can prevent too many infoboxes showing repetitive infos. In terms of its relationship with the IUCN protected areas, I found a link: http://whc.unesco.org/cairns/iucn-priorities.pdf (refer to page 15 of this publication/page 17 of the pdf file). Hope you can help in improving the template and making it more relevant to readers. Thanks. Joey80 13:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Passing on the request from my talk page to more knowledgeable in wiki software etc. Atulsnischal 13:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
User:Saravask:
Excellent work on
Climate of India! {{Handshake Award}} I see it is a Selected article candidate. Should be a Featured article as well.
I have been working on
Silent Valley National Park and
Palani Hills National Park but hit a wall when I get to Climate sections. Real data for those places seems unavailable.
The closest reference source I've found is:
Shea, D.J., and N.A. Sontakke, 1995:
The Annual Cycle of Precipitation over the Indian Subcontinent: Daily, Monthly and Seasonal Statistics. TN-401+IA, National Center for Atmospheric Research, 168 pp.
But now how to get it and then what to do with it? Even if I had the data, I'm graphics challenged.
What I ideally want for those articles is just like the Bar graph for Madras
Can you make these graphs and rewrite the climate sections of these articles or even refer this request to some Wiki weather graphics guru who can/will?
Thank You for any help.- Marcus 07:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
cc: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Protected areas of India
If anyone cares here is a new template:
Wildlife of India |
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♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 11:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
To be honest I am quite disappointed you haven't even made oan attmept to expand e.g Wildlife of Pakistan you created months ago there is a mass of info!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 15:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Its up and going!!!! {WildlifeofAsia}} {WildlifeofIndia}} ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 21:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks so much for establishing and working on these series..... hopefully it will catch on soon and lots of people will create these country articles and make them more and more informative for all.
Thanks
Atulsnischal 19:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Also just wanted to remind you and suggest that most countries have a national animal, national bird, national plant, national tree, national flower etc., it will be nice if we can accommodate these in these country-wise wildlife articles, check out National Emblem, National Animal, National Bird etc. etc.
Just an idea as kids will be swarming to read these articles soon.....
Atulsnischal 04:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
An updated source of the PA list is the National Wildlife Database Cell, WILDLIFE INSTITUTE OF INDIA DEHRADUN, (position as on April 23, 2007), retrieved 7/25/2007 LIST OF PROTECTED AREAS. This may lead to some modification of List of protected areas in India and associated lists and PAs which I can not do.- Marcus 10:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
How to Search for (1) "Latest" and (2) "Archived" ""NEWS & FEATURE ARTICLES" on "Schools / anything" from top newspapers and magazines, also as well how to search for relevant Blog Postings many of which contain local "Print News Articles" not available online - EXAMPLE Mayo College
As we all know in addition to referring to the main official website if we can research as many news and feature articles from top newspapers and magazines on each subject (article on wikipedia) and highlight top points in our own words or by "quoting" by properly referencing all such research, it improves the wikipedia article many folds and makes it much more credible along with providing many excellent independent unbiased reference links to readers.
1) "Google News Search" for Mayo College: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Mayo+College%22&btnG=Search
2) "Google ARCHIVES News Search" ,including news from last year and before, has a further links in the left margin to break up archived news by year and by publication), for news on Mayo College: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Mayo+College%22
3) "Google "Blog Postings" search for Mayo College: http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&q=%22Mayo+College%22&ie=UTF8
4) "Yahoo News Search" for news on Mayo College: http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search;_ylt=A0WTTks7YtxGMgcB1xWy87UF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhNjRqazhxBHNlYwNzZWFyY2g-?fr=sfp&ei=UTF-8&p=%22Mayo+College%22
1) Set up Google News Alert at: http://www.google.com/alerts
2) Set up Yahoo News Alert at (for this you will have to sign in with your Yahoo Email ID first): http://alerts.yahoo.com/main.php?view=create_news_step1
I learnt about the above services in the last year while looking for news on
Asiatic Lion and
Asiatic Cheetah two subjects that interest me.
Hope this information will be useful to all, thanks
Atulsnischal 04:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal 07:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- Marcus 20:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Great news, Marcus. All the best for your journey. ray 03:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Please create a separate article for:
The actual common full name for it is " Wild Asian Water Buffalo", it is endangered (and it is little known outside wildlife circles), see IUCN Red List, while Domestic Asian Water Buffalo selectively bred for thousands of years is very famous and numbers in millions and has various livestock breeds. There are many breeds of domestic water buffalo.
Atulsnischal 00:57, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Please develop this article whenever you all can find time, Thanks Atulsnischal 00:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Added the above category in our checklist, please modify if needed:
And work needs to be done on many more articles on Naturalists & Conservationists from India I guess.
Atulsnischal 05:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Greetings,
I have completely rewritten the
Jim Corbett National Park article. Since I am now beginning to realize that the article has GA potential it would be of help to me if editors took time to weigh the article and voice their opinion on what more needs to be added to it. I'm seeking opinion in this regard here since the article falls under this Wikiproject and would benefit from attention.
With Regards,
Havelok 20:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
This is an archived version of the talk page. Please make new comments here.
This project is launched to make articles related to Protected areas of India an Featured. Pls. join this project. Amartyabag (Talk) 10:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Since there are only 4 of us at present, we should probably have a collaboration of the month - and informally or formally decide on one topic from the candidates. ray 22:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Reasons for working on this topic are:
Atulsnischal 07:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Would you be interested in the newly formed Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India ?
Cheers. ray 04:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
You may be interested in joining the group for discussions leading to article improvement on wikipedia in the area of Indian biodiversity. Shyamal 07:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Ray and Shyamal for inviting me, I will love to contribute much more to Wikipedia on India’s Natural Heritage and Wildlife etc. which are interests close to my heart but I am still not so good in keyboarding, that makes me really very slow. I really admire the work on Wikipedia that anybody can access easily, especially the growing work on wildlife and conservation in India that you all are generating. I am glad you all have got together for Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India and am sure overtime coordinated effort by members will improve the coverage systematically. I feel very happy that in the long-term this material will be easily available to younger generation, school kids and budding naturalists not only of our region but worldwide spurring their love and respect for environment as a whole.
I really admire your efforts and enjoy your work.
Atul Singh Nischal Atulsnischal ( talk · contribs)
Atulsnischal 02:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Zoos in India dont have websites of their own yet, but this is a great example that stands out:
Located in: Chandaka forest ???
Atulsnischal 03:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Noticed another website of an Indian Zoo:
Atulsnischal 04:06, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
The article is presently a stub.
Protected area | |
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Location | Village, Town, District |
Nearest city | City, State |
Coordinates | 25°0′0″N 75°0′0″E / 25.00000°N 75.00000°E |
Area |
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Established | Year |
Visitors |
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Governing body | Dept of___, Ministry of___ |
Blank Protected areas of India/Infobox for use in Protected areas of India Articles.
You may list yourself in the
Category:WikiProject Protected areas of India participants by adding the following to your userpage.
[[Category:WikiProject Protected areas of India participants| {{subst:PAGENAME}}]]
You may use {{ India-protected-area-stub}} for any Indian protected area stubs that you write or come across. This will automatically put the article in Category:Indian protected area stubs.
You can also add the {{ User WINDPA}} user box to your userpage. Inclusion of the userbox will automatically add you to the user category.
This user is a member of
WikiProject Protected areas of India. |
This user is a member of
WikiProject Protected areas of India. |
User:Marcus334|Marcus]] 22:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Template:WikiProject Protected areas of India similiar to:
Protected areas Project‑class | |||||||
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This is an additional forum which has many Wikipedia supporters who may not be very WikiSavvy. All are welcome to: group:|Wikipedians for Indian Naturefor discussions leading to article improvement on Wikipedia in the area of Nature in India. Shyamal 07:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal 07:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Please make use of this notice board if needed (Link also included in our Taxbok).
Atulsnischal 16:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
For Common Indian Monitor scientific page, somebody is threating to take the para out
This section possibly contains
original research. |
Shivaji's general Tanaji Malusare used Shivaji’s famous pet monitor lizard which is locally known as ghorpad named "Yeshwanti" with a rope tied around its waist for climbing up the walls of the Sinhagad fort from it’s steepest and the least guarded side in the dead of a moonless night during the Battle of Sinhagad. Once he had scaled up himself after the giant lizard, up the sheer steep cliff unnoticed, he threw down rope ladders for others to climb. citation neededThis Common Indian Monitor (Varanus bengalensis) found locally in present day Maharashtra is the species of Monitor Lizard said to have been used which is also known as ghorpad in Marathi. citation needed
Ghorpads are famous for their ability to cling to smooth surfaces, and were traditionally trained for this purpose by herders in the area. citation needed
Thanks
Atulsnischal 22:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I noticed User:Ragib started editing the the bengal monitor page by distorting the historical anecdote of Maratha over Mugal victory first. Strange. Made it into a "persistant myth" from fact, now he wants a reference for each sentence otherwise he threatened to take the pagragraph out.
Atulsnischal 00:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear Atulnischal, I'm not sure what grand plan you have in mind, but copying the section on Flora and Fauna from the India page and pasting it to create a new article and then referencing it on the India page itself requires some explanation. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 23:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC) User talk:Saravask
"Wildlife of India" deserves an article in its own right, "Wildlife of India" is a popular term that people look for and search for on the internet, school kids, nature lovers and people who want to go on nature and eco-tourism trips etc. General people and younger generation looking for Info on Indian wildlife do not look for scientific and little known and boring words like Fauna or Flora or terminology like Protected areas of India etc. All this can be brought together under "Wildlife of India" article by a popular and commonly used and searched name. As per the content of this article: everybody is free to edit and add info on it.
Thanks, sincerely
Atulsnischal 23:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Kindly contribute to this article when you get time, and request others too.
Thanks
Atulsnischal 17:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I have added a dashboard to the project page. It really helps with collaboration in the India project. Hope it helps here too. Regards, Ganeshk ( talk) 18:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Natural history-India emailing list aids NGOs and Grassroots workers along with scientists, researchers, naturalists and nature lovers, it is India's premiere list in these aspects and on Conservation and Natural History.
Please help edit and save this article about this important Mailing List, it has come up for deletion because there are very less references on the net or I was not able to find any good ones.
Please help when you have time, improve article to save it and also vote for keeping it here:
PLEASE VOTE TO KEEP THIS ARTICLE, Cast your Vote on the following Link:
Thankyou all
Atulsnischal 10:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
By the way you voted in a second after my post for help in the project page, you said it is a non notable list in a second without any research, now you are making stories.
This article on the list is included in the articles we are developing in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India, so I asked for help there.
Atulsnischal 11:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Stop following me around on Wikipedia Rajib since the Bengal Monitor incident, I told you Wildlife of Bangladesh needs work, please get some people from Bangladesh Project to develop the article.
Thanks
Atulsnischal 11:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal 11:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Please stop doing me favors Ragib, lets just make contributions, that list is not a "non notable list" Ok, it is infact the most notable list. The article just needs some improvement and editing, if you can help, great, if you cant let others.
Thanks
Atulsnischal 11:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
By the way you voted in a second after my post for help in the project page, you said it is a non notable list in a second without any research, now you are making stories.
This article on the list is included in the articles we are developing in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India, so I asked for help there.
Atulsnischal 11:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Atul, The nathistory-india page may be revived. It would perhaps not have gone to afd if you spent some time on writing carefully. Would suggest that some time is spent on reading and studying the structure of featured articles. You will note for instance that the captions on most of these articles are short and precise. The body text should also be in the encyclopaedic style. Advocacy is not to be included (for instance a statement like "We should save this species" would almost invite an afd to your doorstep). Cite the best references, place material in context and do not add too many or irrelevant external links or see alsos. That should take you a long way. cheers. Shyamal 01:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Shyamal, I have a few things to say too
They started the deletion process because they said, IT IS A NON-NOTABLE List, which is of course not true at all as you and I both know.
Also People of all skill levels are welcome to edit and contribute to Wikipedia and such, it was basically an article that had the correct vision, but needed editing help, you know what I mean, a technical writer's touch.
This list itself is a new media thing and people have to still wakeup to such networking platforms like these and appreciate their contribution to society, unfortunately journalists have not yet realized the potential to do features on lists from time to time which would have been really very handy to quote. The paucity of Newspaper articles about the list was also the main issue as it could have established the notability in a second. There are several Wildlife and Conservation Journalists on the list though, just have not woken up to a new living and breathing thing.
Also 95% of the writers out there are not scientific writers, or technical writers, assistants usually take care of these little things for them.
And as far as contributions on Wikipedia go, people are supposed to help edit and rewrite articles here to improve their quality, correct spellings of others, punctuations, rearrange facts and paragraphs to provide a better flow, provide proper sources, ............ who ever gave you the idea the that the contributor who started the page / article needs to finish it. Over the years hundreds or thousands of people should help improve an article and update it from time to time and NOT put it up for deletion on the third day, this kind of behavior discredits Wikipedia itself.
Since I did lot of research on Asiatic Lion hence I noticed another short coming of purely scientific or technical writing, you guys do not hesitate at all to quote an article even though the article may have all nonsense in it, Asiatic Cheetah Diet is still quoted from a bad source with nonsense in it, the National Geographic article from 2000 on Asiatic Lions has nonsense that Asiatic Lions are highly inbred, but technical writers dont hesitate quoting such reputable sources and present it as gods own truth.
Now lets come to our project "Protected Areas of India" or Zoos, you guys are so busy technically writing and correctly quoting that you forget that basics like, how much is the ticket, how to reach, closest railway or airport, what is the best season to visit, what are the accommodations offered, are guides and rides / cars available, who are the contacts etc., any special clothing suggested (Snakes, mosquitos), etc. etc. are also import information that should be included and will be useful to the reader, there is ofcourse no need for us to sell a holiday package to them but a little reader oriented info would be definitely useful to include in an Encyclopedia. A little bit of thinking outside the box is needed for techies.......
I have already told you guys that I really appreciate your efforts, so don't think otherwise. I have even made an effort to tell India about it, here is the link:
https://lists.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0702&L=nathistory-india&T=0&F=&S=&P=14871
Thanks for your help though.
Atulsnischal 07:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal 04:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
This article needs to be deleted. Its worthless having such an article. It is even shameful to be called as a stub. I think if the PA of India workgroup can do something about this page. Thanks Sushant gupta 07:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
This Conservation and India & South Asia related Wikipedia Article had been nominated for deletion as some felt this Natural History of South Asia mailing list / "Natural History Network" is not notable enough to deserve an article on Wikipedia, to the contrary Wikipedia did not find any reason to delete this article and Restored it. For those interested and for a general record, provided here are the links to the deletion debates which this article passed:
Thanks Atulsnischal 06:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Click for information on animals, 27 Oct, 2004 TIMES NEWS NETWORK
National chemical laboratory's Centre for Biodiversity Informatics, NCBI's IndFauna Website, A Work in Progress currently, also click on "An Appeal" under: IndFauna (Search IndFauna)
Atulsnischal 11:14, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
These are stub class I started, kindly improve when you have time, also enter in all related lists etc.
Thanks Atulsnischal 09:02, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I created a template for World Heritage Sites: {{ Infobox World Heritage Site}}. Since many protected areas tend to overlap with World Heritage-designated places, will it be possible to re-format the template in the same way as the Level 1, 2, 3... style? In that way, we can prevent too many infoboxes showing repetitive infos. In terms of its relationship with the IUCN protected areas, I found a link: http://whc.unesco.org/cairns/iucn-priorities.pdf (refer to page 15 of this publication/page 17 of the pdf file). Hope you can help in improving the template and making it more relevant to readers. Thanks. Joey80 13:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Passing on the request from my talk page to more knowledgeable in wiki software etc. Atulsnischal 13:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
User:Saravask:
Excellent work on
Climate of India! {{Handshake Award}} I see it is a Selected article candidate. Should be a Featured article as well.
I have been working on
Silent Valley National Park and
Palani Hills National Park but hit a wall when I get to Climate sections. Real data for those places seems unavailable.
The closest reference source I've found is:
Shea, D.J., and N.A. Sontakke, 1995:
The Annual Cycle of Precipitation over the Indian Subcontinent: Daily, Monthly and Seasonal Statistics. TN-401+IA, National Center for Atmospheric Research, 168 pp.
But now how to get it and then what to do with it? Even if I had the data, I'm graphics challenged.
What I ideally want for those articles is just like the Bar graph for Madras
Can you make these graphs and rewrite the climate sections of these articles or even refer this request to some Wiki weather graphics guru who can/will?
Thank You for any help.- Marcus 07:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
cc: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Protected areas of India
If anyone cares here is a new template:
Wildlife of India |
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♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 11:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
To be honest I am quite disappointed you haven't even made oan attmept to expand e.g Wildlife of Pakistan you created months ago there is a mass of info!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 15:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Its up and going!!!! {WildlifeofAsia}} {WildlifeofIndia}} ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 21:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks so much for establishing and working on these series..... hopefully it will catch on soon and lots of people will create these country articles and make them more and more informative for all.
Thanks
Atulsnischal 19:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Also just wanted to remind you and suggest that most countries have a national animal, national bird, national plant, national tree, national flower etc., it will be nice if we can accommodate these in these country-wise wildlife articles, check out National Emblem, National Animal, National Bird etc. etc.
Just an idea as kids will be swarming to read these articles soon.....
Atulsnischal 04:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
An updated source of the PA list is the National Wildlife Database Cell, WILDLIFE INSTITUTE OF INDIA DEHRADUN, (position as on April 23, 2007), retrieved 7/25/2007 LIST OF PROTECTED AREAS. This may lead to some modification of List of protected areas in India and associated lists and PAs which I can not do.- Marcus 10:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
How to Search for (1) "Latest" and (2) "Archived" ""NEWS & FEATURE ARTICLES" on "Schools / anything" from top newspapers and magazines, also as well how to search for relevant Blog Postings many of which contain local "Print News Articles" not available online - EXAMPLE Mayo College
As we all know in addition to referring to the main official website if we can research as many news and feature articles from top newspapers and magazines on each subject (article on wikipedia) and highlight top points in our own words or by "quoting" by properly referencing all such research, it improves the wikipedia article many folds and makes it much more credible along with providing many excellent independent unbiased reference links to readers.
1) "Google News Search" for Mayo College: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Mayo+College%22&btnG=Search
2) "Google ARCHIVES News Search" ,including news from last year and before, has a further links in the left margin to break up archived news by year and by publication), for news on Mayo College: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Mayo+College%22
3) "Google "Blog Postings" search for Mayo College: http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&q=%22Mayo+College%22&ie=UTF8
4) "Yahoo News Search" for news on Mayo College: http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search;_ylt=A0WTTks7YtxGMgcB1xWy87UF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhNjRqazhxBHNlYwNzZWFyY2g-?fr=sfp&ei=UTF-8&p=%22Mayo+College%22
1) Set up Google News Alert at: http://www.google.com/alerts
2) Set up Yahoo News Alert at (for this you will have to sign in with your Yahoo Email ID first): http://alerts.yahoo.com/main.php?view=create_news_step1
I learnt about the above services in the last year while looking for news on
Asiatic Lion and
Asiatic Cheetah two subjects that interest me.
Hope this information will be useful to all, thanks
Atulsnischal 04:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Atulsnischal 07:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- Marcus 20:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Great news, Marcus. All the best for your journey. ray 03:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Please create a separate article for:
The actual common full name for it is " Wild Asian Water Buffalo", it is endangered (and it is little known outside wildlife circles), see IUCN Red List, while Domestic Asian Water Buffalo selectively bred for thousands of years is very famous and numbers in millions and has various livestock breeds. There are many breeds of domestic water buffalo.
Atulsnischal 00:57, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Please develop this article whenever you all can find time, Thanks Atulsnischal 00:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Added the above category in our checklist, please modify if needed:
And work needs to be done on many more articles on Naturalists & Conservationists from India I guess.
Atulsnischal 05:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Greetings,
I have completely rewritten the
Jim Corbett National Park article. Since I am now beginning to realize that the article has GA potential it would be of help to me if editors took time to weigh the article and voice their opinion on what more needs to be added to it. I'm seeking opinion in this regard here since the article falls under this Wikiproject and would benefit from attention.
With Regards,
Havelok 20:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)