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The tables used by the Spanish Wiki here?-- Tru Co 03:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC) Yeah its better because its in spanish lol! oj! All joking aside I like it! Adster95 ( talk) 18:10, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
I admit, it does look more presentable, but if we adopt it, there are two things we should drop: first, the alternating row colours, and the inclusion of a "won from" column, I think it's just redunant. I prefer having a notes column to explain special situations. -- Scorpion 0422 04:08, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Is this happening?. Bencey ( talk) 06:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
If anyone has Hulk Hogan's biography, I'm looking for a little information about WrestleMania IX and King of the Ring 1993. It should be on pages 214-216. Did Hogan actually refuse to lose the title to Bret Hart? If so, why? Was he specifically worried about losing the title cleanly to Yokozuna (did he help plan the exploding camera thing)? If anyone knows of a reliable site outside of WrestleView that answers these, that would be great as well. Thanks, GaryColemanFan ( talk) 19:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
That makes 99 Good Articles for the project...which one will get the project up to 100? GaryColemanFan ( talk) 00:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
The new tables implemented on the WWE Diva's Championship and List of World Heavyweight Championship is unnessicary. A table that can be sorted is not unnessicary, as they're is really no other way that a list of champions can be read other then chronologically.
What I'm trying to suggest is that it's unnessicary to be able to list the events, locations, and the wrestlers name alphabetically in this sort of context. What use does knowing the alphabetical listing of the aforementioned topics actually provide?
Also if this idea gets shot down, I'd also like to suggest that the "Event" list is not required, because a simple note of it can be made in the notes section of the table. Nor when I title is vacated, should it be given a number in the reign category, as it is not actually a title reign.-- DonJuan.EXE ( talk) 21:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Over at WP:FLC, they normally call for lists to be sortable during the nomination responses. List of WWE Champions was promoted to Featured List status before the requirements at FL were made much stricter. Nikki♥ 311 00:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Watch the roster pages. Also there is a discussion on the TNA Roster page. Someone wants the tables removed from that page because it wasn't discussed there to add them.-- Will C 03:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
it seems that more and more users do not like the tables.a vote will be needed in the future.but i'm not proposing one now. CMJMEM ( talk) 03:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Keep the tables, just organize by last name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.27.67.174 ( talk) 03:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way to find out how many hits an individual article receives? Tony2Times ( talk) 14:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Easily better known. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 15:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I can't, it needs an admin move. And people usually find a reason to oppose even if the move is obvious like this one. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 22:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
People keep adding unsourced track lists. The closest thing to a "source" is rumor sites that themselves have no reliable source, or claim it's on Allmusic.com when no such thing is to be found there. Maxwell7985 ( talk) 04:30, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I read on Wrestlezone that the WWE creative are pitching ideas for a possible return to the company. Obviously, I took this with a pinch of salt, but not everyone will, so I'd keep vigilant over the next few days for WWE return rumours on his page. King garthur ( talk) 09:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Do Randy, Cody and Manu really exist as a stable after appearing once together, not even in a match to beat someonedown, alongside Jericho too? Also shouldn't Ted and Cody still be listed as we haven't seen them formally split up? Interestinlgy they are referred to as Priceless on the Slammy nominations. Tony2Times ( talk) 15:15, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
As I looked at the infobox, the names section is a bit cluttered. Are all of those actual names they used, or just fan nicknames? I see Fac-gime, Corporate DX and DX as some of them that seem a bit of a stretch. I don't remember any commentator even calling them those. According to the article: Edge and Christian called the group Fac-gime at least once, which doesn't seem to add notability. Wrestlers call groups things all the time, if we are going by that nonsense: teams have 100s of brief names. RobJ1981 ( talk) 20:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I believe that Wrestling Information Archive should be moved to unreliable sources in the style guide. I'm not sure but has anyone noticed that they just copy off of us? I've seen around four or five articles on their site that are exact copies of articles on here.-- Will C 18:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
The article that was at Dan Kroffat has been moved to "Cowboy" Dan Kroffat with the Dan Kroffat article becoming a disambiguation page. The main problem is that its to disambiguate from Philip Lafond -- who also used the name Dan Kroffat. This makes no sense. Why have a disambiguation page to disambiguate between two articles with completely different names? There's a hatnote at the top of what is now "Cowboy" Dan Kroffat. That should be enough, shouldn't it?.
Is there any way I can get this changed back? Stephen Day ( talk) 18:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Why don't we have a page for the Main Event Mafia? Canamerican ( talk) 03:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay, this has annoyed me for a while now. Genesis (2006) has no poster. The only TNA ppv that does not have a poster. I've not found it anywhere. I have on the other hand found the DVD cover at multiple websites. Is it okay to use that as the poster?-- Will C 04:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
To make more informative articles on Wrestling Titles, how about we include Title Defenses? So for say the TNA World Heavyweight Title, we include every successful title defense for Kurt Angle, Sting, Samoa Joe, etc. We can do this for every other title too, with of course sources indicating that match certainly took place. I could definitely work on this project. We could include this on collapse tables for each champion listed. Canamerican ( talk) 06:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, WWE and TNA doesn't put results up for house shows, only the televised and PPVS. But to be fair to Canamerican, a promotion like SHIMMER for example would fit this criteia as they aren't defending all over the place(Only in ROH, FIP) and not every 1 to 2 days. Still, we would need sources. -- Numyht ( talk) 09:06, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
There are also many titles (like the NWA World Heavyweight Championship), where there are several long periods of time where the lineage isn't known. How are we going to list defenses when the champion isn't even known? Nikki♥ 311 18:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Eric Young did in fact win and become the TNA X-Division Champion at Final Resolution. He was then stripped of the title afterwards. He is still credited as being X-Division Champion though. Canamerican ( talk) 04:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Better keep a lookout on TNA X Division Championship and all it's related pages. -- Numyht ( talk) 13:04, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Consensus was made here about little notes to championships and accomplishments sections. He continues to do it, gets warned 3 times, and then keeps on doin' it. I reported at WP:AIAV and it got reverted because it wasn't obvious vandalism. They are no specific categories for ignoring consensus. What to do? RandySavageFTW ( talk) 15:50, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Is this team notable because someone wants their article made?-- Will C 02:21, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
"What you're proposing be put in the article (which at this point would be the only meat in the article) could be added to Rhodes's and Dibiase's articles. "subject then won the tag team championship with his partner other subject""
JTG and Shad have done nothing in WWE alone, yet they have a team page. The info about Cryme Tyme could go on each other's pages, just as you have suggested should happen to Priceless. Plus, Priceless is a 3 man team. Replace DiBiase with Shad, and Cody with JTG in your paragraph and you will see what I mean
Also Rated RKO has a page, yet they were around for about 4 months. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheRatedRKOLegendKiller ( talk • contribs) 21:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Rather than put the same information about the individual member of Priceless on 3 or 4 pages, I think it would be a lot easier to just simply put the info on one page. If the page redirects to an idividual member name, you have info on their that isn't even about Pricelss, whereas a Pricelss article would be exclusive to the stable. TheRatedRKOLegendKiller ( talk) 22:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
So Randy Orton kicked Dusty Rhodes in the head in June 2008? Cody Runnels debuted this year did he? No, he debuted in 2007.
Crime Time have never even won the tag titles, what notability is that? They don't deserve an article as they have done nothing notable since debuting over 2 years ago. Priceless has paralleled with Runnels career, with most of it leading to the Priceless formation. The part about Orton kicking DiBiase isn't mentioned on Rhodes article, and it was a key part in the stables history. TheRatedRKOLegendKiller ( talk) 22:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Ted getting kicked in the head has nothing to do with Cody Rhodes, but it has an awful lot to do with the formation of the group. Also, if Priceless aren't allowed to have a page, why are people from OVW and FCW? Most of them are nobodies and aren't notable yet. Also, The New Breed from ECW has an article, yet they never did anything and were around for about 6 months. If Priceless aren't allowed an article, then articles such as the aforementioned should be removed TheRatedRKOLegendKiller ( talk) 02:53, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Nobody watches TNA, which is why Beer Money aren't notable and don't deserve a page. ECW has more viewers. And nobody watches ECW. Being notable has nothing to do with length of time,
Wikipedia has a guideline for Notability, which I just checked
"Significant coverage" - Yes, wwe.com has plenty of articles concerning the formation of group "Reliable" - Yes, they are from wwe.com "Sources" - They were up for a slammy for team of the year, which, in WWE world, means they are notable "Presumed" - Yes, the sources presume to the reader that this team is notable within the WWE "Independent of the subject" - Yes there are countless wrestling sites not affiliated with WWE which have acknowledged the group TheRatedRKOLegendKiller ( talk) 14:04, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Some pages that should be watched at the moment. Travis Tomko, Gail Kim, Jason Reso, Frankie Kazarian, and List of Total Nonstop Action Wrestling employees. A new character debuted in TNA called Suicide, however, there is no reliable source presented who is playing him. It has been rumored from Amazing Red to Kaz. An edit war is beginning to break out on the page saying he is Suicide. Tomko is supposly signed with WWE but WWE nor Tomko have confirmed this. Kim is supposedly debuting soon, so watch it for rumors. Reso's contract is coming due soon with TNA. Expect people to add he is returning to WWE very soon. The Roster is for the same reason with Suicide.-- Will C 06:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
If anyone has Ric Flair's biography, I would really appreciate a little bit of information. He talks about how the original plan for WrestleMania VIII was for him to face Hogan. Can someone please let me know why he says that was changed (with page numbers)? Thanks.
Secondly, on page 161 of Shawn Michaels' autobiography, does he say anything about his match with Santana, or does he just mention that it happened?
In addition, if anyone knows of a reliable source for Marty Jannetty being fired in 1992 for failing a drug test, I would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction. Thanks again, GaryColemanFan ( talk) 23:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
For the Shawn Michaels autobiography, it just says that Santana put him over, and that it wasn't a massive win. Thanks, Genius 101 Guestbook 23:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry about the delay in replying - P300 of the paperback edition of To Be The Man (Ric Flair)
After the Royal Rumble, the plan had been for me to wrestle Hogan in the setting the match deserved: Wrestlemania VIII, on April 5, 1992, at the Hoosier Dome in Indianapolis. The original storyline would involve me losing to Hogan and giving him the title back. But Vince's relationship with Hogan had deteriorated by then, and Hogan was aspiring to become a full-time actor, so the Wrestlemania VIII lineup was switched around. Hogan would wrestle Sid then take a long sabbatical. I was booked against Randy "Macho Man" Savage.
Hope this helps, I'm adding my books to the library page, anything I have that you need references for, just ask... -- Apsouthern ( talk) 08:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Figures this would be made, notable?. -- Numyht ( talk) 10:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I went for a redirect to WWE. Darrenhusted ( talk) 12:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Someone's put slammeys in championship and accoplishments for Todd Grisham! I think its notable enough and can be sourced what do you guys think! Adster95 ( talk) 16:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Yea sounds good though I have to say I prefer the other one as it gives more information! Although it doesn't look as neat! Adster95 ( talk) 17:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Y'know it should go Championships alphabetically, (e.g. IC, World) then the accomplishments alphabetically (e.g. King of The Ring, Money in the Bank) under each promotions header
I think it should be:
Slammy Award for Wrestler of the Year ( 2008) RandySavageFTW ( talk) 21:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Is anyone else gonna comment? There should be a consensus because I don't wanna add them all in just to get reverted. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 21:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
(Apologies for lateness, busy week only just watched Raw) I don't think Slammys should be noted in that section as they are inconsistently awarded, both in the awards ceremony and the categories, and many of them are not for real categories. Triple H for best hair? Is that really noteworthy? As a side note on the order of championships, I think only the title of the championship itself should be taken into consideration ie if they won the NWA World Heavyweight Championship in WCCW as well as WCWA World Heavyweight Championship there, the two would be listed together as they are both (minus the promotion's initials which are irrelevent to a certain extent as it's already in the title) World Heavyweight Championship. Or say Matt Hardy would have WCW Tag Team Championship and WWE Tag Team Championship listed under T. Tony2Times ( talk) 03:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated the page so it can be added to the championships FT. However, I have a feeling that the article for the championship may be rejected and I may be forced to create a seperate list of champions, even though there has been only one champ. If it does come to this, does anyone oppose the creation of a list for a one-item table (although it could grow soon)? -- Scorpion 0422 00:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
List of WWE Divas Champions. Didn't really want to do it because now every belt with only a few winners will be given their own list (I was responsible for the merging of the TNA world & tag team championship lists), but I don't want to lose the FT either. -- Scorpion 0422 22:00, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I decided to take a look at the style guide today and just to keep updated. What makes each of these sites reliable: Find Articles, Slam Sports, Wrestling Observer, WrestleView, Archive.org, PW Torch, and PW Insider. They are all under "Websites proven reliable". What makes these all verified reliable sources? Will C 20:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
The only way I can think of to cut some of the shit that goes on here, is to mark sections resolved and archive them once resolved. Once he/she who started the discussion receives an answer, it be marked resolved. aye matthew ✡ 21:26, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there anyway that we can improve and source these articles to meet FL standards. Maybe a new layout to make it easier to source without having the exact number of days sourced. Maybe adding to the tables date won, date lost, and give a math problem to make it not fall under original research to show how many days. I'm just brain storming here. I see so many reign articles that it starts to seem useless if they aren't going to ever be improved. Something like this maybe.
Wrestler | Date Won | Date Lost | Days Held |
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Samoa Joe | April 13, 2008 (Day 104 in 2008) | October 12, 2008 (Day 286 in 2008) | 182 (286 - 104) |
It seems stupid but I'm just trying to think of something that might work.-- Will C 10:51, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Wrestler | Date Won | Date Lost | Days Held |
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Samoa Joe | April 13, 2008 | October 12, 2008 | 182 |
TJ Spyke 23:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
aye matthew ✡ 23:43, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Me and another editor have a concern we were hoping the rest of you could help us with. What to do with the list of combined title reigns. How should we integrate those into the articles? TJ Spyke 20:38, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Considering all we have been talking about lately is if certain teams are notable well I've been wondering if these few teams are notable yet: The Main Event Mafia, The TNA Frontline, and Beer Money, Inc. The Main Event Mafia and The Frontline are involved in vets vs youngblood storyline. The same that happened in WCW with the New Brood and the Millionaires Club. They hold the the TNA World Heavyweight Championship and the Legends Championship. Made up of Sting, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Kurt Angle, Kevin Nash, and possibly Al Snow now. The build to their team storyline began back in July. The storyline and the team encompasses all of TNA. It is really TNA's Invasion angle. I feel it is notable but was going to wait till pass the new year to make the article so that they officially pass the notability rules. The TNA Frontline are the face team that was established recently but were made up of AJ Styles and Joe since before Bound for Glory. They just had no name. An official team was made in late October. They just recently got the name Frontline. Considering that if Main Event Mafia get a page, they need one as well. Beer Money, Inc have been teaming together since May. They have been the TNA World Tag Team Champions since August. I feel a good article can be made from their unofficial formation fighting Sting and Booker T or Impact to recently in their semi-feud with Team 3D. Including their gimmick of Roode being a millionaire type figure and Storm being just drunk. A reasonably long article and reliable sourced one can be made in my mind. I guess need to establish a consensus before I create the articles. Will C 22:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Can people please watch this page. No one has presented a reliable source that he is Suicide. Everyone says he is but no source is ever presented. Plus the PWinsider source is not reliable. It says Wretsling Observer but the source must come from the Wrestling Observer. I've done all I can. Will C 05:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I've been looking at List of Total Nonstop Action Wrestling tournaments. Considering their notable enough to be listed, wouldn't they be notable enough to have an article for each? I ask because TNA is having a tournament at the moment for the vacant X Division Title. What does everyone think about just giving it its own page. I'll write the report for it as it goes along. Just want to sort it out instead of just being bold here. I would rather get people's opinions first. Will C 05:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
The "Main event Mafia", and the TNA Frontline are obviously going to be around for a long time. It's pretty much TNA. I though the MEM needed one for a while, and I still do. But now that the frontline have 3D and other members, I think there going to be the same. Don't you agree that they both need one as this storyline will be going on for sure into '09? SteelersFan- 9 4 20:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to make a suggestion for the style guide (since I can't find anything stating it one way or another). For PPVs, I think we should link the wrestler name and not the real name. Right now most use it like "Shawn Michaels ([[Shawn Michaels|Michael Hickenbottom]])". What I think should be the standard (and looks much better IMO) is "[[Shawn Michaels]] (Michael Hickenbottom)". TJ Spyke 16:10, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Most people read Shawn Michaels' article for info on his pro wrestling career. And it's named Shawn Michaels, not Michael Hickenbottom. So the stage name should be linked. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 23:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
What do you mean they will think he is a character? They know he's a character from our articles explaining how everything is fake 20 times. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 00:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't see your point. And Daniels is better known as Daniels, Killings is known by a lot of names so it's left at that, and Booker T is a disambiguation page. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 01:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
For the nominations, instead of having to add the image name, the article name, and the link to the nomination page, use of one the following for the respective nomination.
S R X 01:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Warning: contains spoilers. So is this a reliable source or not? It's likely based on an early fan report, so who knows if it's reliable or not? (remember: spoiler reports have been faked in the past, I remember one that said Mark Henry beat Mysterio for the Heavyweight title) -- Scorpion 0422 02:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
<--WWE has acknowledged it. here and in their title history ♥ Nici♥ Vampire♥ Heart♥ 07:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I think Wikipedia should not even list brands considering that WWE only implies that the superstars are on the respective brands, yet all titles are available to all superstars..(i.e. Kozlov (SD) for the ECW Championship, Morrison and Miz (ECW) for the WWE Raw World Tag Team Championship, Matt Hardy (SD) and Jeff Hardy (Raw) for the WWE Raw World Tag Team Championship). I believe because WWE has not directly stated that the title has changed brands, we should not speculate or make a biased judgment until WWE clears up this Wiki-based problem. A user is constantly stating that we list the championships as how they are listed on the WWE.com superstar pages, yet I find no policy on WP:PW on this.-- S R X 20:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
So what are we going to do?
List the belts under whatever brand we feel like listing them, because obviously whatever WWE.com says is meaningless around here.
Vjmlhds 20:23, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Here's the best way to compromise:
We list the titles as ECW/Raw.
I never said the belts were ECW exclusive.
Rather that they currently are ECW property, shared with Raw due to the talent exchange.
ECW though gets first billing due to being listed on WWE.com, and because they are held by ECW wrestlers.
That's all I ask.
The titles are shared property, with ECW getting first billing -- ECW/Raw.
I think that's fair.
Vjmlhds 21:20, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I know where the misunderstanding was, and it was kinda my fault.
I should have said from the start that the titles should be listed as shared ECW/Raw titles (ECW gets first billing due to them holding the belts).
Never did I say anything about exclusivity.
The belts are shared property due to the talent exchange.
I apologize for the furor, I should have made myself clearer.
Vjmlhds 21:32, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
As far as ECW getting first billing goes, that's more a "possession is 9/10ths of the law" thing than anything else.
The main thing is that the titles are listed as shared property.
There is no "exclusivity" due to being shared on 2 brands.
Vjmlhds 21:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I dunno WWE.com never moved the WWE Tag Team Championships to the ECW brand part of their website when Miz and Morrison where champions! They must be doing something big here like making it exclusive to the ECW brand only! To be honest the only way (I think) to determine if its exclusive to a brand is if Todd and Striker call the next World Tag Team pay per view match! Adster95 ( talk) 16:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Who favors a to-do-list for the project like the one at WT:VG?-- S R X 21:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi there! I'm a developer of {{
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, the meta-template that your project banner is based on. Following changes there we're intending to rescind default support for "Future-Class", which your project uses in the form of
Category:Future-Class Professional wrestling articles. There is an alternative system in place which makes it easy for the project to continue using this special class if you wish to do so, but I'm curious as to whether you think it is actually helpful to your project to have articles tagged in this way. Should I go ahead and implement the workaround to maintain the "Future-Class" through this transition, or would you prefer it to be removed?
Happy‑
melon 22:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
One way of differentiating between them is that brands don't have italics but television programs do. But what I see in articles is that people don't properly list the television program name.
These are the proper names of the programs per WWE Shows at WWE.com-- S R X 00:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
As the title says, one has, it is called Armageddon (2009). I don't know why someone created it or even if it is announced. Thought to say something. Should we redirect it or delete it? Will C 04:45, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Everyone needs to watch this page. Everyone is adding people who require every title besides the European title, I believe it has been going on for a while like this. Will C 13:58, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Will C 21:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
This GA is up for reassessment. There are some issues with some unsourced information in the article that needs to be fixed. I'll probably work on it some, but help is always appreciated. Nikki♥ 311 21:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I would like to propose that we take a vote on adding pwinsider.com as a reliable source. They have proven to be one of the leading internet sites along with wrestlingobserver.com (which now directs to f4wonline.com). Also, I posted a source confirming Kazarian was indeed Suicide through wrestleview.com. I was told by a wiki user I will keep nameless that I was still posting wrong source information for the correct identity. Here is the site " http://www.wrestleview.com/news08/1228770993.shtml". I think f4wonline.com, wwe.com, tnawrestling.com, pwtorch, and pwinsider.com should be our top sources, along with slam sports and wrestleview as backup sources until sources from the big 5 become available. Those 7, along with the other "okay" sources is a good set.-- NickSparrow ( talk) 05:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Question to end this once and for all. Is this line enough from a report by the Wrestling Observer to source that Kaz is Suicide in TNA. Source: [1] Line: "And yes, that is Frankie Kazarian under the mask as Suicide".-- Will C 05:32, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I say yes, just so everyone can move on with their lives, and one step closer to getting the tna roster page unprotected. Also, we are staying by the rules with the source being reliable.-- NickSparrow ( talk) 05:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
What's the point of having that site under the "reliable sources" list if it's articles are going to be questioned? Mshake3 ( talk) 06:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
And Now Kaz gets himself injured again....More Headaches for us.-- Numyht ( talk) 14:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Why is some random Canadian site being used as a source for the reception of PPV articles? They don't even use star ratings. 66.168.87.155 ( talk) 18:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
This move has been proposed at Talk:Lisa Marie Varon#Requested move. Nikki♥ 311 03:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
You all might want to watch this article. More than likely, IP's may add the rumors that he'll be returning his "Fallen Angel" gimmick. 04:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
It would be better to just get it protected. They've been doing it for a week. I don't think anyone will watch it anyway.-- Will C 04:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
This user is working on articles in his talk and main user pages. To be clear he is not working, he is playing with them making them his own little cards. I'm not sure what the correct warning would be for this situation.-- Will C 07:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't know how many people watchlist the Cody Rhodes article, but can mopre editors please get involved with a discussion currently occuring on the talk page, here? Thanks, ♥ Nici♥ Vampire♥ Heart♥ 10:14, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Just as note, the discussion is about an edit that three users have included into the page while NiciVampire has been the only one reverting it back to her version of the edit. As opposed to having 'Priceless & Legacy Era' (which are the names of the stables the athletes are involved in), she would rather it look like this 'Alliance with DiBiase and Manu; angle with Orton (2008-present)' which I have told this editor numerous times that it is too long and looks sloppy as the heading of a section. Her basis for the reversion is that she hasn't heard the wrestler's introduced as 'Priceless' before during their entrances despite the fact that several commentators have referred to them as 'Priceless' and 'the legacy'.
Note that our discussion to keep the edit as 'Priceless' is beneath another user's efforts to keep the edit as 'Priceless' of course against NiciVampire's objections. I'm not sure why the user has been so stubborn in her editing style. I'm guessing she's a big wrestling fan but it's become an obstacle in dealing with her on some of the wrestling articles also as noted on the Mike Mizanin talkpage. Cheers dude ( talk) 10:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I've just poped in and I don't know whos right (I have heard Cole call them Priceless numerous times but Lilian never does) but as for a reliable source http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/slammyawards08/ From the tag team of the year section. Adster95 ( talk) 10:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much Adster95! Could you revert back the edit with the source provided as the objection to my edit as well as other's edits of having 'Priceless' was not having a reliable source, but now you've found one. =) Cheers dude ( talk) 10:52, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Darrenhusted has taken NiciVampire's side so much so [3] that he's talking about 'strangling editors' and 'f-n'. Yikes! Someone more civil want to step in? Anyways, now as a reliable source seems to be found on the issue by Adster95 which was the objection, it's still not good enough. Cheers dude ( talk) 11:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
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The tables used by the Spanish Wiki here?-- Tru Co 03:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC) Yeah its better because its in spanish lol! oj! All joking aside I like it! Adster95 ( talk) 18:10, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
I admit, it does look more presentable, but if we adopt it, there are two things we should drop: first, the alternating row colours, and the inclusion of a "won from" column, I think it's just redunant. I prefer having a notes column to explain special situations. -- Scorpion 0422 04:08, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Is this happening?. Bencey ( talk) 06:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
If anyone has Hulk Hogan's biography, I'm looking for a little information about WrestleMania IX and King of the Ring 1993. It should be on pages 214-216. Did Hogan actually refuse to lose the title to Bret Hart? If so, why? Was he specifically worried about losing the title cleanly to Yokozuna (did he help plan the exploding camera thing)? If anyone knows of a reliable site outside of WrestleView that answers these, that would be great as well. Thanks, GaryColemanFan ( talk) 19:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
That makes 99 Good Articles for the project...which one will get the project up to 100? GaryColemanFan ( talk) 00:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
The new tables implemented on the WWE Diva's Championship and List of World Heavyweight Championship is unnessicary. A table that can be sorted is not unnessicary, as they're is really no other way that a list of champions can be read other then chronologically.
What I'm trying to suggest is that it's unnessicary to be able to list the events, locations, and the wrestlers name alphabetically in this sort of context. What use does knowing the alphabetical listing of the aforementioned topics actually provide?
Also if this idea gets shot down, I'd also like to suggest that the "Event" list is not required, because a simple note of it can be made in the notes section of the table. Nor when I title is vacated, should it be given a number in the reign category, as it is not actually a title reign.-- DonJuan.EXE ( talk) 21:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Over at WP:FLC, they normally call for lists to be sortable during the nomination responses. List of WWE Champions was promoted to Featured List status before the requirements at FL were made much stricter. Nikki♥ 311 00:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Watch the roster pages. Also there is a discussion on the TNA Roster page. Someone wants the tables removed from that page because it wasn't discussed there to add them.-- Will C 03:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
it seems that more and more users do not like the tables.a vote will be needed in the future.but i'm not proposing one now. CMJMEM ( talk) 03:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Keep the tables, just organize by last name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.27.67.174 ( talk) 03:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there any way to find out how many hits an individual article receives? Tony2Times ( talk) 14:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Easily better known. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 15:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I can't, it needs an admin move. And people usually find a reason to oppose even if the move is obvious like this one. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 22:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
People keep adding unsourced track lists. The closest thing to a "source" is rumor sites that themselves have no reliable source, or claim it's on Allmusic.com when no such thing is to be found there. Maxwell7985 ( talk) 04:30, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
I read on Wrestlezone that the WWE creative are pitching ideas for a possible return to the company. Obviously, I took this with a pinch of salt, but not everyone will, so I'd keep vigilant over the next few days for WWE return rumours on his page. King garthur ( talk) 09:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Do Randy, Cody and Manu really exist as a stable after appearing once together, not even in a match to beat someonedown, alongside Jericho too? Also shouldn't Ted and Cody still be listed as we haven't seen them formally split up? Interestinlgy they are referred to as Priceless on the Slammy nominations. Tony2Times ( talk) 15:15, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
As I looked at the infobox, the names section is a bit cluttered. Are all of those actual names they used, or just fan nicknames? I see Fac-gime, Corporate DX and DX as some of them that seem a bit of a stretch. I don't remember any commentator even calling them those. According to the article: Edge and Christian called the group Fac-gime at least once, which doesn't seem to add notability. Wrestlers call groups things all the time, if we are going by that nonsense: teams have 100s of brief names. RobJ1981 ( talk) 20:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I believe that Wrestling Information Archive should be moved to unreliable sources in the style guide. I'm not sure but has anyone noticed that they just copy off of us? I've seen around four or five articles on their site that are exact copies of articles on here.-- Will C 18:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
The article that was at Dan Kroffat has been moved to "Cowboy" Dan Kroffat with the Dan Kroffat article becoming a disambiguation page. The main problem is that its to disambiguate from Philip Lafond -- who also used the name Dan Kroffat. This makes no sense. Why have a disambiguation page to disambiguate between two articles with completely different names? There's a hatnote at the top of what is now "Cowboy" Dan Kroffat. That should be enough, shouldn't it?.
Is there any way I can get this changed back? Stephen Day ( talk) 18:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Why don't we have a page for the Main Event Mafia? Canamerican ( talk) 03:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay, this has annoyed me for a while now. Genesis (2006) has no poster. The only TNA ppv that does not have a poster. I've not found it anywhere. I have on the other hand found the DVD cover at multiple websites. Is it okay to use that as the poster?-- Will C 04:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
To make more informative articles on Wrestling Titles, how about we include Title Defenses? So for say the TNA World Heavyweight Title, we include every successful title defense for Kurt Angle, Sting, Samoa Joe, etc. We can do this for every other title too, with of course sources indicating that match certainly took place. I could definitely work on this project. We could include this on collapse tables for each champion listed. Canamerican ( talk) 06:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, WWE and TNA doesn't put results up for house shows, only the televised and PPVS. But to be fair to Canamerican, a promotion like SHIMMER for example would fit this criteia as they aren't defending all over the place(Only in ROH, FIP) and not every 1 to 2 days. Still, we would need sources. -- Numyht ( talk) 09:06, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
There are also many titles (like the NWA World Heavyweight Championship), where there are several long periods of time where the lineage isn't known. How are we going to list defenses when the champion isn't even known? Nikki♥ 311 18:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Eric Young did in fact win and become the TNA X-Division Champion at Final Resolution. He was then stripped of the title afterwards. He is still credited as being X-Division Champion though. Canamerican ( talk) 04:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Better keep a lookout on TNA X Division Championship and all it's related pages. -- Numyht ( talk) 13:04, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Consensus was made here about little notes to championships and accomplishments sections. He continues to do it, gets warned 3 times, and then keeps on doin' it. I reported at WP:AIAV and it got reverted because it wasn't obvious vandalism. They are no specific categories for ignoring consensus. What to do? RandySavageFTW ( talk) 15:50, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Is this team notable because someone wants their article made?-- Will C 02:21, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
"What you're proposing be put in the article (which at this point would be the only meat in the article) could be added to Rhodes's and Dibiase's articles. "subject then won the tag team championship with his partner other subject""
JTG and Shad have done nothing in WWE alone, yet they have a team page. The info about Cryme Tyme could go on each other's pages, just as you have suggested should happen to Priceless. Plus, Priceless is a 3 man team. Replace DiBiase with Shad, and Cody with JTG in your paragraph and you will see what I mean
Also Rated RKO has a page, yet they were around for about 4 months. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheRatedRKOLegendKiller ( talk • contribs) 21:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Rather than put the same information about the individual member of Priceless on 3 or 4 pages, I think it would be a lot easier to just simply put the info on one page. If the page redirects to an idividual member name, you have info on their that isn't even about Pricelss, whereas a Pricelss article would be exclusive to the stable. TheRatedRKOLegendKiller ( talk) 22:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
So Randy Orton kicked Dusty Rhodes in the head in June 2008? Cody Runnels debuted this year did he? No, he debuted in 2007.
Crime Time have never even won the tag titles, what notability is that? They don't deserve an article as they have done nothing notable since debuting over 2 years ago. Priceless has paralleled with Runnels career, with most of it leading to the Priceless formation. The part about Orton kicking DiBiase isn't mentioned on Rhodes article, and it was a key part in the stables history. TheRatedRKOLegendKiller ( talk) 22:34, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Ted getting kicked in the head has nothing to do with Cody Rhodes, but it has an awful lot to do with the formation of the group. Also, if Priceless aren't allowed to have a page, why are people from OVW and FCW? Most of them are nobodies and aren't notable yet. Also, The New Breed from ECW has an article, yet they never did anything and were around for about 6 months. If Priceless aren't allowed an article, then articles such as the aforementioned should be removed TheRatedRKOLegendKiller ( talk) 02:53, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Nobody watches TNA, which is why Beer Money aren't notable and don't deserve a page. ECW has more viewers. And nobody watches ECW. Being notable has nothing to do with length of time,
Wikipedia has a guideline for Notability, which I just checked
"Significant coverage" - Yes, wwe.com has plenty of articles concerning the formation of group "Reliable" - Yes, they are from wwe.com "Sources" - They were up for a slammy for team of the year, which, in WWE world, means they are notable "Presumed" - Yes, the sources presume to the reader that this team is notable within the WWE "Independent of the subject" - Yes there are countless wrestling sites not affiliated with WWE which have acknowledged the group TheRatedRKOLegendKiller ( talk) 14:04, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Some pages that should be watched at the moment. Travis Tomko, Gail Kim, Jason Reso, Frankie Kazarian, and List of Total Nonstop Action Wrestling employees. A new character debuted in TNA called Suicide, however, there is no reliable source presented who is playing him. It has been rumored from Amazing Red to Kaz. An edit war is beginning to break out on the page saying he is Suicide. Tomko is supposly signed with WWE but WWE nor Tomko have confirmed this. Kim is supposedly debuting soon, so watch it for rumors. Reso's contract is coming due soon with TNA. Expect people to add he is returning to WWE very soon. The Roster is for the same reason with Suicide.-- Will C 06:03, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
If anyone has Ric Flair's biography, I would really appreciate a little bit of information. He talks about how the original plan for WrestleMania VIII was for him to face Hogan. Can someone please let me know why he says that was changed (with page numbers)? Thanks.
Secondly, on page 161 of Shawn Michaels' autobiography, does he say anything about his match with Santana, or does he just mention that it happened?
In addition, if anyone knows of a reliable source for Marty Jannetty being fired in 1992 for failing a drug test, I would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction. Thanks again, GaryColemanFan ( talk) 23:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
For the Shawn Michaels autobiography, it just says that Santana put him over, and that it wasn't a massive win. Thanks, Genius 101 Guestbook 23:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry about the delay in replying - P300 of the paperback edition of To Be The Man (Ric Flair)
After the Royal Rumble, the plan had been for me to wrestle Hogan in the setting the match deserved: Wrestlemania VIII, on April 5, 1992, at the Hoosier Dome in Indianapolis. The original storyline would involve me losing to Hogan and giving him the title back. But Vince's relationship with Hogan had deteriorated by then, and Hogan was aspiring to become a full-time actor, so the Wrestlemania VIII lineup was switched around. Hogan would wrestle Sid then take a long sabbatical. I was booked against Randy "Macho Man" Savage.
Hope this helps, I'm adding my books to the library page, anything I have that you need references for, just ask... -- Apsouthern ( talk) 08:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Figures this would be made, notable?. -- Numyht ( talk) 10:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I went for a redirect to WWE. Darrenhusted ( talk) 12:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Someone's put slammeys in championship and accoplishments for Todd Grisham! I think its notable enough and can be sourced what do you guys think! Adster95 ( talk) 16:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Yea sounds good though I have to say I prefer the other one as it gives more information! Although it doesn't look as neat! Adster95 ( talk) 17:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Y'know it should go Championships alphabetically, (e.g. IC, World) then the accomplishments alphabetically (e.g. King of The Ring, Money in the Bank) under each promotions header
I think it should be:
Slammy Award for Wrestler of the Year ( 2008) RandySavageFTW ( talk) 21:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Is anyone else gonna comment? There should be a consensus because I don't wanna add them all in just to get reverted. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 21:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
(Apologies for lateness, busy week only just watched Raw) I don't think Slammys should be noted in that section as they are inconsistently awarded, both in the awards ceremony and the categories, and many of them are not for real categories. Triple H for best hair? Is that really noteworthy? As a side note on the order of championships, I think only the title of the championship itself should be taken into consideration ie if they won the NWA World Heavyweight Championship in WCCW as well as WCWA World Heavyweight Championship there, the two would be listed together as they are both (minus the promotion's initials which are irrelevent to a certain extent as it's already in the title) World Heavyweight Championship. Or say Matt Hardy would have WCW Tag Team Championship and WWE Tag Team Championship listed under T. Tony2Times ( talk) 03:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated the page so it can be added to the championships FT. However, I have a feeling that the article for the championship may be rejected and I may be forced to create a seperate list of champions, even though there has been only one champ. If it does come to this, does anyone oppose the creation of a list for a one-item table (although it could grow soon)? -- Scorpion 0422 00:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
List of WWE Divas Champions. Didn't really want to do it because now every belt with only a few winners will be given their own list (I was responsible for the merging of the TNA world & tag team championship lists), but I don't want to lose the FT either. -- Scorpion 0422 22:00, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I decided to take a look at the style guide today and just to keep updated. What makes each of these sites reliable: Find Articles, Slam Sports, Wrestling Observer, WrestleView, Archive.org, PW Torch, and PW Insider. They are all under "Websites proven reliable". What makes these all verified reliable sources? Will C 20:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
The only way I can think of to cut some of the shit that goes on here, is to mark sections resolved and archive them once resolved. Once he/she who started the discussion receives an answer, it be marked resolved. aye matthew ✡ 21:26, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there anyway that we can improve and source these articles to meet FL standards. Maybe a new layout to make it easier to source without having the exact number of days sourced. Maybe adding to the tables date won, date lost, and give a math problem to make it not fall under original research to show how many days. I'm just brain storming here. I see so many reign articles that it starts to seem useless if they aren't going to ever be improved. Something like this maybe.
Wrestler | Date Won | Date Lost | Days Held |
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Samoa Joe | April 13, 2008 (Day 104 in 2008) | October 12, 2008 (Day 286 in 2008) | 182 (286 - 104) |
It seems stupid but I'm just trying to think of something that might work.-- Will C 10:51, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Wrestler | Date Won | Date Lost | Days Held |
---|---|---|---|
Samoa Joe | April 13, 2008 | October 12, 2008 | 182 |
TJ Spyke 23:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
aye matthew ✡ 23:43, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Me and another editor have a concern we were hoping the rest of you could help us with. What to do with the list of combined title reigns. How should we integrate those into the articles? TJ Spyke 20:38, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Considering all we have been talking about lately is if certain teams are notable well I've been wondering if these few teams are notable yet: The Main Event Mafia, The TNA Frontline, and Beer Money, Inc. The Main Event Mafia and The Frontline are involved in vets vs youngblood storyline. The same that happened in WCW with the New Brood and the Millionaires Club. They hold the the TNA World Heavyweight Championship and the Legends Championship. Made up of Sting, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Kurt Angle, Kevin Nash, and possibly Al Snow now. The build to their team storyline began back in July. The storyline and the team encompasses all of TNA. It is really TNA's Invasion angle. I feel it is notable but was going to wait till pass the new year to make the article so that they officially pass the notability rules. The TNA Frontline are the face team that was established recently but were made up of AJ Styles and Joe since before Bound for Glory. They just had no name. An official team was made in late October. They just recently got the name Frontline. Considering that if Main Event Mafia get a page, they need one as well. Beer Money, Inc have been teaming together since May. They have been the TNA World Tag Team Champions since August. I feel a good article can be made from their unofficial formation fighting Sting and Booker T or Impact to recently in their semi-feud with Team 3D. Including their gimmick of Roode being a millionaire type figure and Storm being just drunk. A reasonably long article and reliable sourced one can be made in my mind. I guess need to establish a consensus before I create the articles. Will C 22:01, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Can people please watch this page. No one has presented a reliable source that he is Suicide. Everyone says he is but no source is ever presented. Plus the PWinsider source is not reliable. It says Wretsling Observer but the source must come from the Wrestling Observer. I've done all I can. Will C 05:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I've been looking at List of Total Nonstop Action Wrestling tournaments. Considering their notable enough to be listed, wouldn't they be notable enough to have an article for each? I ask because TNA is having a tournament at the moment for the vacant X Division Title. What does everyone think about just giving it its own page. I'll write the report for it as it goes along. Just want to sort it out instead of just being bold here. I would rather get people's opinions first. Will C 05:54, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
The "Main event Mafia", and the TNA Frontline are obviously going to be around for a long time. It's pretty much TNA. I though the MEM needed one for a while, and I still do. But now that the frontline have 3D and other members, I think there going to be the same. Don't you agree that they both need one as this storyline will be going on for sure into '09? SteelersFan- 9 4 20:35, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to make a suggestion for the style guide (since I can't find anything stating it one way or another). For PPVs, I think we should link the wrestler name and not the real name. Right now most use it like "Shawn Michaels ([[Shawn Michaels|Michael Hickenbottom]])". What I think should be the standard (and looks much better IMO) is "[[Shawn Michaels]] (Michael Hickenbottom)". TJ Spyke 16:10, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Most people read Shawn Michaels' article for info on his pro wrestling career. And it's named Shawn Michaels, not Michael Hickenbottom. So the stage name should be linked. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 23:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
What do you mean they will think he is a character? They know he's a character from our articles explaining how everything is fake 20 times. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 00:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't see your point. And Daniels is better known as Daniels, Killings is known by a lot of names so it's left at that, and Booker T is a disambiguation page. RandySavageFTW ( talk) 01:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
For the nominations, instead of having to add the image name, the article name, and the link to the nomination page, use of one the following for the respective nomination.
S R X 01:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Warning: contains spoilers. So is this a reliable source or not? It's likely based on an early fan report, so who knows if it's reliable or not? (remember: spoiler reports have been faked in the past, I remember one that said Mark Henry beat Mysterio for the Heavyweight title) -- Scorpion 0422 02:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
<--WWE has acknowledged it. here and in their title history ♥ Nici♥ Vampire♥ Heart♥ 07:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I think Wikipedia should not even list brands considering that WWE only implies that the superstars are on the respective brands, yet all titles are available to all superstars..(i.e. Kozlov (SD) for the ECW Championship, Morrison and Miz (ECW) for the WWE Raw World Tag Team Championship, Matt Hardy (SD) and Jeff Hardy (Raw) for the WWE Raw World Tag Team Championship). I believe because WWE has not directly stated that the title has changed brands, we should not speculate or make a biased judgment until WWE clears up this Wiki-based problem. A user is constantly stating that we list the championships as how they are listed on the WWE.com superstar pages, yet I find no policy on WP:PW on this.-- S R X 20:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
So what are we going to do?
List the belts under whatever brand we feel like listing them, because obviously whatever WWE.com says is meaningless around here.
Vjmlhds 20:23, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Here's the best way to compromise:
We list the titles as ECW/Raw.
I never said the belts were ECW exclusive.
Rather that they currently are ECW property, shared with Raw due to the talent exchange.
ECW though gets first billing due to being listed on WWE.com, and because they are held by ECW wrestlers.
That's all I ask.
The titles are shared property, with ECW getting first billing -- ECW/Raw.
I think that's fair.
Vjmlhds 21:20, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I know where the misunderstanding was, and it was kinda my fault.
I should have said from the start that the titles should be listed as shared ECW/Raw titles (ECW gets first billing due to them holding the belts).
Never did I say anything about exclusivity.
The belts are shared property due to the talent exchange.
I apologize for the furor, I should have made myself clearer.
Vjmlhds 21:32, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
As far as ECW getting first billing goes, that's more a "possession is 9/10ths of the law" thing than anything else.
The main thing is that the titles are listed as shared property.
There is no "exclusivity" due to being shared on 2 brands.
Vjmlhds 21:35, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I dunno WWE.com never moved the WWE Tag Team Championships to the ECW brand part of their website when Miz and Morrison where champions! They must be doing something big here like making it exclusive to the ECW brand only! To be honest the only way (I think) to determine if its exclusive to a brand is if Todd and Striker call the next World Tag Team pay per view match! Adster95 ( talk) 16:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Who favors a to-do-list for the project like the one at WT:VG?-- S R X 21:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi there! I'm a developer of {{
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, the meta-template that your project banner is based on. Following changes there we're intending to rescind default support for "Future-Class", which your project uses in the form of
Category:Future-Class Professional wrestling articles. There is an alternative system in place which makes it easy for the project to continue using this special class if you wish to do so, but I'm curious as to whether you think it is actually helpful to your project to have articles tagged in this way. Should I go ahead and implement the workaround to maintain the "Future-Class" through this transition, or would you prefer it to be removed?
Happy‑
melon 22:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
One way of differentiating between them is that brands don't have italics but television programs do. But what I see in articles is that people don't properly list the television program name.
These are the proper names of the programs per WWE Shows at WWE.com-- S R X 00:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
As the title says, one has, it is called Armageddon (2009). I don't know why someone created it or even if it is announced. Thought to say something. Should we redirect it or delete it? Will C 04:45, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Everyone needs to watch this page. Everyone is adding people who require every title besides the European title, I believe it has been going on for a while like this. Will C 13:58, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Will C 21:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
This GA is up for reassessment. There are some issues with some unsourced information in the article that needs to be fixed. I'll probably work on it some, but help is always appreciated. Nikki♥ 311 21:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I would like to propose that we take a vote on adding pwinsider.com as a reliable source. They have proven to be one of the leading internet sites along with wrestlingobserver.com (which now directs to f4wonline.com). Also, I posted a source confirming Kazarian was indeed Suicide through wrestleview.com. I was told by a wiki user I will keep nameless that I was still posting wrong source information for the correct identity. Here is the site " http://www.wrestleview.com/news08/1228770993.shtml". I think f4wonline.com, wwe.com, tnawrestling.com, pwtorch, and pwinsider.com should be our top sources, along with slam sports and wrestleview as backup sources until sources from the big 5 become available. Those 7, along with the other "okay" sources is a good set.-- NickSparrow ( talk) 05:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Question to end this once and for all. Is this line enough from a report by the Wrestling Observer to source that Kaz is Suicide in TNA. Source: [1] Line: "And yes, that is Frankie Kazarian under the mask as Suicide".-- Will C 05:32, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I say yes, just so everyone can move on with their lives, and one step closer to getting the tna roster page unprotected. Also, we are staying by the rules with the source being reliable.-- NickSparrow ( talk) 05:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
What's the point of having that site under the "reliable sources" list if it's articles are going to be questioned? Mshake3 ( talk) 06:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
And Now Kaz gets himself injured again....More Headaches for us.-- Numyht ( talk) 14:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Why is some random Canadian site being used as a source for the reception of PPV articles? They don't even use star ratings. 66.168.87.155 ( talk) 18:46, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
This move has been proposed at Talk:Lisa Marie Varon#Requested move. Nikki♥ 311 03:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
You all might want to watch this article. More than likely, IP's may add the rumors that he'll be returning his "Fallen Angel" gimmick. 04:53, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
It would be better to just get it protected. They've been doing it for a week. I don't think anyone will watch it anyway.-- Will C 04:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
This user is working on articles in his talk and main user pages. To be clear he is not working, he is playing with them making them his own little cards. I'm not sure what the correct warning would be for this situation.-- Will C 07:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't know how many people watchlist the Cody Rhodes article, but can mopre editors please get involved with a discussion currently occuring on the talk page, here? Thanks, ♥ Nici♥ Vampire♥ Heart♥ 10:14, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Just as note, the discussion is about an edit that three users have included into the page while NiciVampire has been the only one reverting it back to her version of the edit. As opposed to having 'Priceless & Legacy Era' (which are the names of the stables the athletes are involved in), she would rather it look like this 'Alliance with DiBiase and Manu; angle with Orton (2008-present)' which I have told this editor numerous times that it is too long and looks sloppy as the heading of a section. Her basis for the reversion is that she hasn't heard the wrestler's introduced as 'Priceless' before during their entrances despite the fact that several commentators have referred to them as 'Priceless' and 'the legacy'.
Note that our discussion to keep the edit as 'Priceless' is beneath another user's efforts to keep the edit as 'Priceless' of course against NiciVampire's objections. I'm not sure why the user has been so stubborn in her editing style. I'm guessing she's a big wrestling fan but it's become an obstacle in dealing with her on some of the wrestling articles also as noted on the Mike Mizanin talkpage. Cheers dude ( talk) 10:30, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I've just poped in and I don't know whos right (I have heard Cole call them Priceless numerous times but Lilian never does) but as for a reliable source http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/slammyawards08/ From the tag team of the year section. Adster95 ( talk) 10:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much Adster95! Could you revert back the edit with the source provided as the objection to my edit as well as other's edits of having 'Priceless' was not having a reliable source, but now you've found one. =) Cheers dude ( talk) 10:52, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Darrenhusted has taken NiciVampire's side so much so [3] that he's talking about 'strangling editors' and 'f-n'. Yikes! Someone more civil want to step in? Anyways, now as a reliable source seems to be found on the issue by Adster95 which was the objection, it's still not good enough. Cheers dude ( talk) 11:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)