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Just a quick note to inform project members that this article passed its GA review today, bringing our total to 43. Thanks to everyone who helped. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 03:50, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I've changed the Aftermath guidlines on the PPV Guidelines page. The addition is in bold:
The aftermath section should contain details of feuds that occurred after the event, whether feuds just completely stopped, or whether they continued for several months afterwards. It may also contain details of any backstage disagreements that occurred or if anyone legitimately quit the company immediately after the event. It should also contain the details about the buyrate for the event, in contrast to previous years. It should also show whether the event was (dis)liked as a whole, giving sources to three/four different websites.
IMO, this needs to be in the aftermath, it's buyrate in contrast to previous years, and whether people liked the PPV as a whole. If you are (or have) been working on a PPV, I strongly suggest adding a bit on the buyrate or stuff. For examples of how this can be worked into articles, please look at the December to Dismember 2006 aftermath, the SummerSlam 2007 aftermath and the IYH1 aftermath. If you disagree with the above, please leave a comment underneath so it can be discussed. Thanks, D.M.N. ( talk) 09:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone has gone and created the article for this team ( Lance Hoyt and Jimmy Rave w/ Christy Hemme. They've been teaming together for around six months, but haven't really done anything too noteworthy besides destroy our eardrums and develop a disorder where they think Orlando is a different city every week. I really don't think the team is notable. Should we AfD it? Gavyn Sykes ( talk) 19:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone else think the page could be deleted? -- Scorpion 0422 15:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone, Its me Truco, I am still here until two of my GANS are reviewed, so I noticed on WWE.com's live event schedule, that they have replaced the name of WWE Vengeance to WWE Night of Champions, should I go ahead and make the move? Source-- 3L Va K3 r0 14:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know how to add this, but Matt Striker needs to be added to Category:Professional wrestling managers and valets, as he's been managing Big Daddy V for a good while now, plus he managed Mark Henry for a bit. People who have managed less are in that category, so Striker should be added. You can't say that people who are wrestlers first don't belong, because people like Curt Hennig and Ted DiBiase are there. So yeah. Tvp119 ( talk) 18:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Money Inc. should be renamed Money Incorporated. Money Incorporated was their full name and what they were usually called back in 1992-1993. Inc. is an abbreviation. It's like titling the New Age Outlaws page NAO. Tvp119 ( talk) 19:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
And the ignorance of those who never watched something reigns over those who actually know the topic once again. I never watched Pokemon, but you don't see me trying to patrol a Pokemon site and call everything a lie. Oh well, no sense trying to talk to idiots. http://www.aetherometry.com/Electronic_Publications/Politics_of_Science/Antiwikipedia/awp_index.html Tell me, why would I lie about what a pro wrestling team from 15 years ago was called? Calm the fuck down. Tvp119 ( talk) 19:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Tvp119, I have to know...if you hate Wikipedia so much, why do you stick around? Nikki 311 20:12, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Does it have a chance for FL? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 02:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
List of ECW Tag Team Champions: You should add a couple of sentences onto the lead (yes, I realize most of the WWE title histories have short leads, but they passed a half a year ago when lead length wasn't as big of an issue), you'll probably have to make the table sortable (that's been the recent trend) and you may run into trouble with your sources, but I'd say its worth a shot.
List of NWA World Heavyweight Champions: I've always thought this would be a tough one to get to FL, and for the time being I'd say no because you should have at least one good primary source and there aren't any (The NWA website history doesn't work anymore). As well, I think that that the table looks too cluttered and sloppy with the big dark coloured headers where half of the text in those headers isn't visible on my browser, so that should be fixed. And, you don't need to use the same citation over and over again, switch it to a general ref like here.
Hope that helps. -- Scorpion 0422 03:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
As a project we need to decide how much information we need to include on the separate wrestler pages when there is also a tag team article (e.g. MNM, Johnny Nitro, & Joey Mercury or 3-Minute Warning, Rosey, and Jamal). Like, if there's a dedicated tag team article, do we need tag team exclusive signature moves? Managers that only managed them when they tagged? In the case of a team like 3 Minute Warning, which went through gimmick changes in a short time, do those need detailing on the individual articles or can it be left in generalities as long as there's a "see (x)" link?
If we do need all this information on the individual articles, why do we even have tag team articles for teams that have individual articles? «» bd( talk stalk) 03:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Anyone else? Opinions? Please?«» bd( talk stalk) 20:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The Featured Article candidacy for Triple H was closed today. It was clear that almost all of the issues brought up had ben resolved, but the closing editor decided not to give the oppose voters a chance to change their votes. The whole FAC thing has my vote for the stupidest aspect of Wikipedia, as there doesn't seem to be any common sense behind the decisions made by closing editors. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 19:00, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I've started a new topic at WT:FAC, with a link to this discussion, see here. D.M.N. ( talk) 19:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
If wrestling isn't good enough to be covered by reliable sources, perhaps it's not good enough for Wikipedia. -- 13 of Diamonds ( talk) 00:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Can someone with rollback rights please take this page back to my last revision? There were about 19 unconstructive edits overnight, and I don't have the patience to revert each individually. Thanks, GaryColemanFan ( talk) 13:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Do we really need this? Half the time people who are trying to look smart make up fake titles for songs, not to mention the music notes are almost always unsourced. It really all isn't needed and just makes the articles look worse. I propose a movement to remove this stuff. If someone wants to start one of those support/oppose battles, do so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvp119 ( talk • contribs) 21:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm questioning the notability of this article. Other opinions... iMat thew 20 08 01:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC) Also with that goes the template: {{ TNA Tournaments}}
All of the pages in the template, and the category: Category:Total Nonstop Action Wrestling tournaments
-- iMat thew 20 08 01:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Other opinions are welcomed, or I can go to AfD? iMat thew 20 08 22:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I also think fight for the right is notable, as it determines a number 1 contender for the last 2 years. Beyond that, don't think anything is really notable, and i am the editor who added the turkey bowl, but that was in my very early stages of wiki-editing and didn't know anything :) Less Than Clippers 23:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Created AfD here. iMat thew 20 08 23:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as this guy made his "debut" in ECW last night, in the contract signing, should we create an article for him yet? WWE.com hasn't confirmed who he is, but a lot of wrestling sites are quoting his name as "Justin LaRoche" who worked in OVW/FCW. D.M.N. ( talk) 20:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
How do I leave this project and stop receiving the newsletters? vDub ( talk) 21:22, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Recently an ip user added this section about conspriacy theories. I do see that someone else cleaned it up and added a source (i can't check the source, i dont have access.) Does this section belong, do we think it is properly sourced, are we violating WP:BLP with the accusations against Kevin Sulivan? Thanks. Less Than Clippers 23:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Should single title reigns be listed in the articles of tag teams, like it is here?-- TrU Co -X 03:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, not sure if this is the right place to come to or not. I started a (admittedly very basic) article on Mickie Knuckles but it was deleted due to lack of notability. The person who deleted it suggested that I mention it here and see if you think it is worth editing and resubmitting.
The work I have done so far is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apsouthern/Sandbox - obviously I have still to fill out the main section of her career, but do you think it is worth me carrying on with the article and resubmitting it, or are you of the opinion that she isn't really worth an article?
Thanks in advance -- Apsouthern ( talk) 13:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Based on how the previous FACs have gone, it's safe to bet that SummerSlam (2007) will also fail in its current state. Since proof of research has been shown for some of the sites, would it be worth removing the other sources (Lords of Pain, WrestleView and Hoffco, Inc.)? They seem to be used as duplicate references, so removing them would still leave the article fully sourced. Of course, if the other editor still isn't willing to accept Pro Wrestling History, Online World of Wrestling and 411Mania as reliable sources, this idea wouldn't help at all. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Should we get in touch with User:Ealdgyth directly and ask if he/she would be willing to remove the objections if Lords of Pain, WrestleView and Hoffco, Inc. were removed? GaryColemanFan ( talk) 05:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I present to you, Editor of the Week. (Or two weeks). I got this idea from the GA newsletter, where they have their Reviewer of the Month. We can do the same sort of thing. There would be a section in the newsletter explaining why the user is the Editor of the Week. Any opinions? iMat thew 20 08 11:18, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm with SexySeaShark. I think it's an awesome idea. Nice thinking Matt!! ♥ Nici♥ Vampire♥ Heart♥ 19:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Also, I think if we do this, we should publish all of the interviews in this week's newsletter. If an interview is currently blank, I will leave the interviewee a message asking him or her to answer the question. We can start after this newsletter with the nominations, and coming up with the new interview questions. iMat thew 20 08 19:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I AfD it. Govvy ( talk) 21:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
This can also apply to the 2006 event. Basically, ECW is apart of the PPV name, since the event is being presented by WWE, since there was no ECW. Normally we have "WWE presents No Mercy" or "WWE presents Backlash", but in this case, it's "WWE presents ECW One Night Stand". Mshake3 ( talk) 22:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Yup! It's really an ECW PPV. It has the feel of the last original ECW Event so I say moveth Straight Edge PXK 22:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Chikara has granted me special permission to use any pics off their website under the GFDL. There many pics of current roster wrestlers and current/former WWF Superstars and TNA/ROH guys. Please check out there site and send suggestions on my talk page.-- Endless Dan 02:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I guess nobody read the above thread, I have AfD it here. iMat thew 20 08 23:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm noticing this all over the place. Half of the pro-wrestling articles list the sources under a section named, "Notes." While the other half list the sources under, "References." This should be the same in every wrestling article, so which do we use? Notes? or References? iMat thew 20 08 10:35, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't watch TNA, so I need some help from those who do. A dynamic IP keeps changing some of the move names. Are these fake fan names, or do they refer to the moves this way on the program? Nikki 311 14:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that there was a page for the Chikara Tag World Grand Prix 2006, but not one for 2003 or 2005. I put together a page for 2003 and was about to start 2005 but I was wondering whether you think that all three tournaments should be merged into the one article like the Ted Petty Invitational, or have a seperate article for each like the TNA 2003 Super X Cup Tournament and TNA 2005 Super X Cup Tournament?-- Apsouthern ( talk) 15:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I would like to notify the project that I would like to nominate Backlash for Good article criteria, but I just want to know if the article fits the criteria. If not, please notify me with what the article is in need. Zenlax T C S 20:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I'd say this is not useful at all. I think it should be deleted or re-directed to this talk page. iMat thew 20 08 23:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Anybody else think that the project should get new colors. The yellow is gettin' to me. I think a light blue, or green, or maybe red would be nice. iMat thew 20 08 00:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm working on something here. iMat thew 20 08 01:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I liked having the link to the stub articles on the navigation bar. I used it several times every day, so it was nice to have it easily accessible. I think it's also just as important to the project as the pay per views, so I'd like to see it back. Removing content for the sake of removing content doesn't make sense to me. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 03:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
UPDATE: I've read over comments above about the colors, and I've tried two different colors out. I'm not sure about this one? Suggestions or comments are welcomes...or should I try different colors. iMat thew 20 08 11:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
NiciVampireHeart and I have gotten the EOTW up and started. I will publish all of the interviews on the waiting list this week. If an interview is blank, I'll leave the interviewee a message giving them a week to answer. The newsletter will be a week late. Any suggestings on how to improve the EOTW are welcome. Otherwise, go check it out. iMat thew 20 08 16:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated List of WCW Hardcore Champions for the featured list of the day in June.-- TrU Co -X 19:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Another one for cleanup, and his real name is? Anyway, Not sure if I will add him to this ep of Velocity on TV.com Govvy ( talk) 11:53, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World Wrestling Professionals was a mess. It was agreed that it should be broken into separate AfD's. This AfD is for the wrestlers mentioned, except the ones that were said to be notable. iMat thew 20 08 16:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I posted on the talk page about it awhile ago, but I believe the bottom of the page was vandalised or something happened to the article. There are no references and one external link I put back. A little cleanup might help!! Govvy ( talk) 16:09, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Trying to become more of a wikipedian and less of just a copy editor/vandal hunter, I have been reading a lot of Wiki policies. When I read WP:Notability it said that everything in the article does not have to be notable, just the subject matter itself, and that the information in the article add to the overall article, be sourced, and not be considered trivia. Well I have often seen things removed from wrestling articles, and the editors arguement is that the information is not-notable. Am I reading a policy wrong, or is there still more of a larger issue I am still not understanding. This is just a friendly request to help me become a better member of the project. I'd like to start expanding and working on articles, and not just hunt for problems. Less Than Clippers 20:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Why are all the matches for ppvs unbolded? for me at least, it is easier to read if it is bolded. why the change? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CTUnick ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Take a look at this. http://www.fightingspiritmagazine.co.uk/article.asp?IntID=100 I just know that someone is going to try and put this before long. Odin's Beard ( talk) 23:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Voting is now open for the first EOTW, go cast your vote! iMat thew 20 08 23:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I have seen arguements for and against this and still dont understand what can be put in. The big one I see this with is John Cena. PW is in many ways similar to a tv show or a movie, and many of those articles have mention of the overwhelmind public criticsm, see Ishtar (movie) or Leonard Part 6. In Cena's case, there have been numerous articles written by third party sources on criticism of his actual technique as a wrestler. What would the proper way to add htis to an article be? or does this not belong, and if so, why not? Less Than Clippers 19:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we still have a "main" page for the Vengeance titled events located at WWE Vengeance, then have a new "main" page for WWE Night of Champions linking to this year's event and any future events? Vengeance titled events shouldn't be on the Night of Champions main page IMO. D.M.N. ( talk) 17:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I would like to also mention that this year's PPV was originally scheduled to be "Vengeance", supporting this as a simple renaming or rebranding. -- 13 of Diamonds ( talk) 21:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
This problem has been going on for a while. Let's try to reach some sort of consensus on them. As of now: many people seem to be just hypocritical when it comes to them. Things such as money in the bank (which is just a special name for a ladder match that features a title shot as the prize) are kept, while things such as career threatening (which is a special name for a retirement match) are removed from the article. On the subject of money in the bank: I think a merge into ladder should happen. A list of qualifying matches, and a list of matches/results of every MITB to happen is listcruft/clutter in my view. WCW had World War 3: and it was just a special name for a battle royal that they did yearly. TNA does the same thing with matches: slaps a name on it, and puts it on pay-per-views each year. Then there is taglines. Some of these could be argued that they are match names, and should be listed in the results section. The problem with both names and taglines is: several editors control the articles and just jam everything they personally love into the report and remove it from the results section. My view on this is, that all special match names and taglines should be either listed in the results or the report ONLY... it shouldn't be some of this and some of that. That just makes it sloppy. Can we try to come up with a solution, instead of ignoring this problem (which has been ignored for quite a while). RobJ1981 ( talk) 00:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Look it was put to a vote on the mania talk page. There was two votes for it. TWO. There was seven or eight against it. Now we will put it to another vote right now and let this be the end of it.
FOR the title:
Against the title: LifeStroke420 ( talk) 16:52, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
No DMN YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. We are gonna vote for it. Vote or you opinion doesnt matter. Im through playing games about this this same discussion has been going on for over a month and just when its over you wanna reopen it. Vote or lose your opinion you choice. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 17:01, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Its the best way to solve this as its two people wanting it in and they keep vandalising the page. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 17:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
As discussed above, I've been working on new color combinations for the main page of WP:PW.
This is what I currently have. I like this one, as does Truco-X. ( here) iMat thew 20 08 17:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Why do we even need a new look for our front page? IMO we could spend a lot more time improving articles instead of working on things in our userspace that do not improve the encyclopedia one bit. It's a front page, does it really matter what it looks like? We have much bigger things to deal with than "the look of our front page". D.M.N. ( talk) 18:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
pretty cool, maybe someone could make a graphic on fireworks or paint shop pro to replace the text "wikiproject Professional Wrestling" to make it look better Straight Edge PXK 18:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Please either support, oppose, or comment on these changes to the layout of the main page. Vote for either Sample 1, Sample 2, or Sample 3. (S1 is the the one at the top of the page, S2 is the middle, S3 is the bottom) iMat thew 20 08 19:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, the majority of the people support sample 1. Before I put it up, are there any additional comments, or opposes to it? iMat thew 20 08 19:51, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I've only done the main page/talk page and COTW. I'm giving a day to see if anybody has any more comments before I finish and change the colors for everything in the project. iMat thew 20 08 01:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone is adding information on the Phil Theis page about his work on a website called stickman. Does anyone know anything about this site. I requested info from the IP user who adds it and he placed this on my talk page. I do not have external internet access at work, can someone look at those links, see what they are about, and let me know if it is a verifiable, and b relevant? Thanks Less Than Clippers 19:10, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I just had a look at the article it'self and you shouldn't use that Angelfire source, that's not even 3rd party! The interview is a good attachment article but sourcing from it? Govvy ( talk) 09:22, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Has been going around and re-bolding the results of the PPV articles. Keep an eye out. iMat thew 20 08 20:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
In several of my local papers advertising an NWA event, they advertise Rob Conway as the NWA World Champion. I haven't seen any online reports of this, can anybody confirm/deny this? Kris ( talk) 21:00, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
I stumbled upon WWE Unmatched Fury Action Figures, WCW Galoob Action Figures, WWF Hasbro Action Figures and Wrestling Superstars today. What is the guideline for notability here? Should we delete some? - DrWarpMind ( talk) 03:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Seriously, with all this talk about conscious being needed to change things, how the hell did we allow the bolding of all PPV articles to be removed due to the opinions of ONE EDITOR!?!?! Mshake3 ( talk) 14:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
MOS:BOLD states: Use italics, not boldface, for emphasis in article text. Use boldface in the remainder of the article only for a few special uses:
Hope that makes it clearer. Nikki 311 20:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Should this page exist? DrWarpMind ( talk) 13:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
More than 40% of the articles at GAN (under the sports section) are from this project and alot of them are not getting reviewed, ideas to clear this up?--~ S R S~ 20:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know why people always bring this up. They'll get reviewed eventually....just be patient and review a few articles to get rid of the backlog in front of them. Nikki 311 20:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The new COTW's should be chosen tomorrow, but there is currently a four way tie for first place. Please go vote if you have not yet, to try and break this tie. iMat thew 20 08 23:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
And I updated the "Upcoming" table weeks ago to show the correct dates. -- 13 of Diamonds ( talk) 03:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 45 | Archive 46 | Archive 47 | Archive 48 | Archive 49 | Archive 50 | → | Archive 55 |
Just a quick note to inform project members that this article passed its GA review today, bringing our total to 43. Thanks to everyone who helped. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 03:50, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I've changed the Aftermath guidlines on the PPV Guidelines page. The addition is in bold:
The aftermath section should contain details of feuds that occurred after the event, whether feuds just completely stopped, or whether they continued for several months afterwards. It may also contain details of any backstage disagreements that occurred or if anyone legitimately quit the company immediately after the event. It should also contain the details about the buyrate for the event, in contrast to previous years. It should also show whether the event was (dis)liked as a whole, giving sources to three/four different websites.
IMO, this needs to be in the aftermath, it's buyrate in contrast to previous years, and whether people liked the PPV as a whole. If you are (or have) been working on a PPV, I strongly suggest adding a bit on the buyrate or stuff. For examples of how this can be worked into articles, please look at the December to Dismember 2006 aftermath, the SummerSlam 2007 aftermath and the IYH1 aftermath. If you disagree with the above, please leave a comment underneath so it can be discussed. Thanks, D.M.N. ( talk) 09:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone has gone and created the article for this team ( Lance Hoyt and Jimmy Rave w/ Christy Hemme. They've been teaming together for around six months, but haven't really done anything too noteworthy besides destroy our eardrums and develop a disorder where they think Orlando is a different city every week. I really don't think the team is notable. Should we AfD it? Gavyn Sykes ( talk) 19:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone else think the page could be deleted? -- Scorpion 0422 15:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone, Its me Truco, I am still here until two of my GANS are reviewed, so I noticed on WWE.com's live event schedule, that they have replaced the name of WWE Vengeance to WWE Night of Champions, should I go ahead and make the move? Source-- 3L Va K3 r0 14:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know how to add this, but Matt Striker needs to be added to Category:Professional wrestling managers and valets, as he's been managing Big Daddy V for a good while now, plus he managed Mark Henry for a bit. People who have managed less are in that category, so Striker should be added. You can't say that people who are wrestlers first don't belong, because people like Curt Hennig and Ted DiBiase are there. So yeah. Tvp119 ( talk) 18:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Money Inc. should be renamed Money Incorporated. Money Incorporated was their full name and what they were usually called back in 1992-1993. Inc. is an abbreviation. It's like titling the New Age Outlaws page NAO. Tvp119 ( talk) 19:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
And the ignorance of those who never watched something reigns over those who actually know the topic once again. I never watched Pokemon, but you don't see me trying to patrol a Pokemon site and call everything a lie. Oh well, no sense trying to talk to idiots. http://www.aetherometry.com/Electronic_Publications/Politics_of_Science/Antiwikipedia/awp_index.html Tell me, why would I lie about what a pro wrestling team from 15 years ago was called? Calm the fuck down. Tvp119 ( talk) 19:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Tvp119, I have to know...if you hate Wikipedia so much, why do you stick around? Nikki 311 20:12, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Does it have a chance for FL? -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 02:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
List of ECW Tag Team Champions: You should add a couple of sentences onto the lead (yes, I realize most of the WWE title histories have short leads, but they passed a half a year ago when lead length wasn't as big of an issue), you'll probably have to make the table sortable (that's been the recent trend) and you may run into trouble with your sources, but I'd say its worth a shot.
List of NWA World Heavyweight Champions: I've always thought this would be a tough one to get to FL, and for the time being I'd say no because you should have at least one good primary source and there aren't any (The NWA website history doesn't work anymore). As well, I think that that the table looks too cluttered and sloppy with the big dark coloured headers where half of the text in those headers isn't visible on my browser, so that should be fixed. And, you don't need to use the same citation over and over again, switch it to a general ref like here.
Hope that helps. -- Scorpion 0422 03:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
As a project we need to decide how much information we need to include on the separate wrestler pages when there is also a tag team article (e.g. MNM, Johnny Nitro, & Joey Mercury or 3-Minute Warning, Rosey, and Jamal). Like, if there's a dedicated tag team article, do we need tag team exclusive signature moves? Managers that only managed them when they tagged? In the case of a team like 3 Minute Warning, which went through gimmick changes in a short time, do those need detailing on the individual articles or can it be left in generalities as long as there's a "see (x)" link?
If we do need all this information on the individual articles, why do we even have tag team articles for teams that have individual articles? «» bd( talk stalk) 03:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Anyone else? Opinions? Please?«» bd( talk stalk) 20:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The Featured Article candidacy for Triple H was closed today. It was clear that almost all of the issues brought up had ben resolved, but the closing editor decided not to give the oppose voters a chance to change their votes. The whole FAC thing has my vote for the stupidest aspect of Wikipedia, as there doesn't seem to be any common sense behind the decisions made by closing editors. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 19:00, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I've started a new topic at WT:FAC, with a link to this discussion, see here. D.M.N. ( talk) 19:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
If wrestling isn't good enough to be covered by reliable sources, perhaps it's not good enough for Wikipedia. -- 13 of Diamonds ( talk) 00:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Can someone with rollback rights please take this page back to my last revision? There were about 19 unconstructive edits overnight, and I don't have the patience to revert each individually. Thanks, GaryColemanFan ( talk) 13:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Do we really need this? Half the time people who are trying to look smart make up fake titles for songs, not to mention the music notes are almost always unsourced. It really all isn't needed and just makes the articles look worse. I propose a movement to remove this stuff. If someone wants to start one of those support/oppose battles, do so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvp119 ( talk • contribs) 21:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm questioning the notability of this article. Other opinions... iMat thew 20 08 01:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC) Also with that goes the template: {{ TNA Tournaments}}
All of the pages in the template, and the category: Category:Total Nonstop Action Wrestling tournaments
-- iMat thew 20 08 01:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Other opinions are welcomed, or I can go to AfD? iMat thew 20 08 22:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I also think fight for the right is notable, as it determines a number 1 contender for the last 2 years. Beyond that, don't think anything is really notable, and i am the editor who added the turkey bowl, but that was in my very early stages of wiki-editing and didn't know anything :) Less Than Clippers 23:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Created AfD here. iMat thew 20 08 23:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as this guy made his "debut" in ECW last night, in the contract signing, should we create an article for him yet? WWE.com hasn't confirmed who he is, but a lot of wrestling sites are quoting his name as "Justin LaRoche" who worked in OVW/FCW. D.M.N. ( talk) 20:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
How do I leave this project and stop receiving the newsletters? vDub ( talk) 21:22, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Recently an ip user added this section about conspriacy theories. I do see that someone else cleaned it up and added a source (i can't check the source, i dont have access.) Does this section belong, do we think it is properly sourced, are we violating WP:BLP with the accusations against Kevin Sulivan? Thanks. Less Than Clippers 23:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Should single title reigns be listed in the articles of tag teams, like it is here?-- TrU Co -X 03:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, not sure if this is the right place to come to or not. I started a (admittedly very basic) article on Mickie Knuckles but it was deleted due to lack of notability. The person who deleted it suggested that I mention it here and see if you think it is worth editing and resubmitting.
The work I have done so far is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Apsouthern/Sandbox - obviously I have still to fill out the main section of her career, but do you think it is worth me carrying on with the article and resubmitting it, or are you of the opinion that she isn't really worth an article?
Thanks in advance -- Apsouthern ( talk) 13:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Based on how the previous FACs have gone, it's safe to bet that SummerSlam (2007) will also fail in its current state. Since proof of research has been shown for some of the sites, would it be worth removing the other sources (Lords of Pain, WrestleView and Hoffco, Inc.)? They seem to be used as duplicate references, so removing them would still leave the article fully sourced. Of course, if the other editor still isn't willing to accept Pro Wrestling History, Online World of Wrestling and 411Mania as reliable sources, this idea wouldn't help at all. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Should we get in touch with User:Ealdgyth directly and ask if he/she would be willing to remove the objections if Lords of Pain, WrestleView and Hoffco, Inc. were removed? GaryColemanFan ( talk) 05:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I present to you, Editor of the Week. (Or two weeks). I got this idea from the GA newsletter, where they have their Reviewer of the Month. We can do the same sort of thing. There would be a section in the newsletter explaining why the user is the Editor of the Week. Any opinions? iMat thew 20 08 11:18, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm with SexySeaShark. I think it's an awesome idea. Nice thinking Matt!! ♥ Nici♥ Vampire♥ Heart♥ 19:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Also, I think if we do this, we should publish all of the interviews in this week's newsletter. If an interview is currently blank, I will leave the interviewee a message asking him or her to answer the question. We can start after this newsletter with the nominations, and coming up with the new interview questions. iMat thew 20 08 19:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I AfD it. Govvy ( talk) 21:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
This can also apply to the 2006 event. Basically, ECW is apart of the PPV name, since the event is being presented by WWE, since there was no ECW. Normally we have "WWE presents No Mercy" or "WWE presents Backlash", but in this case, it's "WWE presents ECW One Night Stand". Mshake3 ( talk) 22:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Yup! It's really an ECW PPV. It has the feel of the last original ECW Event so I say moveth Straight Edge PXK 22:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Chikara has granted me special permission to use any pics off their website under the GFDL. There many pics of current roster wrestlers and current/former WWF Superstars and TNA/ROH guys. Please check out there site and send suggestions on my talk page.-- Endless Dan 02:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I guess nobody read the above thread, I have AfD it here. iMat thew 20 08 23:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm noticing this all over the place. Half of the pro-wrestling articles list the sources under a section named, "Notes." While the other half list the sources under, "References." This should be the same in every wrestling article, so which do we use? Notes? or References? iMat thew 20 08 10:35, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't watch TNA, so I need some help from those who do. A dynamic IP keeps changing some of the move names. Are these fake fan names, or do they refer to the moves this way on the program? Nikki 311 14:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that there was a page for the Chikara Tag World Grand Prix 2006, but not one for 2003 or 2005. I put together a page for 2003 and was about to start 2005 but I was wondering whether you think that all three tournaments should be merged into the one article like the Ted Petty Invitational, or have a seperate article for each like the TNA 2003 Super X Cup Tournament and TNA 2005 Super X Cup Tournament?-- Apsouthern ( talk) 15:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I would like to notify the project that I would like to nominate Backlash for Good article criteria, but I just want to know if the article fits the criteria. If not, please notify me with what the article is in need. Zenlax T C S 20:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I'd say this is not useful at all. I think it should be deleted or re-directed to this talk page. iMat thew 20 08 23:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Anybody else think that the project should get new colors. The yellow is gettin' to me. I think a light blue, or green, or maybe red would be nice. iMat thew 20 08 00:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm working on something here. iMat thew 20 08 01:44, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I liked having the link to the stub articles on the navigation bar. I used it several times every day, so it was nice to have it easily accessible. I think it's also just as important to the project as the pay per views, so I'd like to see it back. Removing content for the sake of removing content doesn't make sense to me. GaryColemanFan ( talk) 03:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
UPDATE: I've read over comments above about the colors, and I've tried two different colors out. I'm not sure about this one? Suggestions or comments are welcomes...or should I try different colors. iMat thew 20 08 11:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
NiciVampireHeart and I have gotten the EOTW up and started. I will publish all of the interviews on the waiting list this week. If an interview is blank, I'll leave the interviewee a message giving them a week to answer. The newsletter will be a week late. Any suggestings on how to improve the EOTW are welcome. Otherwise, go check it out. iMat thew 20 08 16:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I have nominated List of WCW Hardcore Champions for the featured list of the day in June.-- TrU Co -X 19:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Another one for cleanup, and his real name is? Anyway, Not sure if I will add him to this ep of Velocity on TV.com Govvy ( talk) 11:53, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World Wrestling Professionals was a mess. It was agreed that it should be broken into separate AfD's. This AfD is for the wrestlers mentioned, except the ones that were said to be notable. iMat thew 20 08 16:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I posted on the talk page about it awhile ago, but I believe the bottom of the page was vandalised or something happened to the article. There are no references and one external link I put back. A little cleanup might help!! Govvy ( talk) 16:09, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Trying to become more of a wikipedian and less of just a copy editor/vandal hunter, I have been reading a lot of Wiki policies. When I read WP:Notability it said that everything in the article does not have to be notable, just the subject matter itself, and that the information in the article add to the overall article, be sourced, and not be considered trivia. Well I have often seen things removed from wrestling articles, and the editors arguement is that the information is not-notable. Am I reading a policy wrong, or is there still more of a larger issue I am still not understanding. This is just a friendly request to help me become a better member of the project. I'd like to start expanding and working on articles, and not just hunt for problems. Less Than Clippers 20:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Why are all the matches for ppvs unbolded? for me at least, it is easier to read if it is bolded. why the change? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CTUnick ( talk • contribs) 20:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Take a look at this. http://www.fightingspiritmagazine.co.uk/article.asp?IntID=100 I just know that someone is going to try and put this before long. Odin's Beard ( talk) 23:26, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Voting is now open for the first EOTW, go cast your vote! iMat thew 20 08 23:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I have seen arguements for and against this and still dont understand what can be put in. The big one I see this with is John Cena. PW is in many ways similar to a tv show or a movie, and many of those articles have mention of the overwhelmind public criticsm, see Ishtar (movie) or Leonard Part 6. In Cena's case, there have been numerous articles written by third party sources on criticism of his actual technique as a wrestler. What would the proper way to add htis to an article be? or does this not belong, and if so, why not? Less Than Clippers 19:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we still have a "main" page for the Vengeance titled events located at WWE Vengeance, then have a new "main" page for WWE Night of Champions linking to this year's event and any future events? Vengeance titled events shouldn't be on the Night of Champions main page IMO. D.M.N. ( talk) 17:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I would like to also mention that this year's PPV was originally scheduled to be "Vengeance", supporting this as a simple renaming or rebranding. -- 13 of Diamonds ( talk) 21:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
This problem has been going on for a while. Let's try to reach some sort of consensus on them. As of now: many people seem to be just hypocritical when it comes to them. Things such as money in the bank (which is just a special name for a ladder match that features a title shot as the prize) are kept, while things such as career threatening (which is a special name for a retirement match) are removed from the article. On the subject of money in the bank: I think a merge into ladder should happen. A list of qualifying matches, and a list of matches/results of every MITB to happen is listcruft/clutter in my view. WCW had World War 3: and it was just a special name for a battle royal that they did yearly. TNA does the same thing with matches: slaps a name on it, and puts it on pay-per-views each year. Then there is taglines. Some of these could be argued that they are match names, and should be listed in the results section. The problem with both names and taglines is: several editors control the articles and just jam everything they personally love into the report and remove it from the results section. My view on this is, that all special match names and taglines should be either listed in the results or the report ONLY... it shouldn't be some of this and some of that. That just makes it sloppy. Can we try to come up with a solution, instead of ignoring this problem (which has been ignored for quite a while). RobJ1981 ( talk) 00:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Look it was put to a vote on the mania talk page. There was two votes for it. TWO. There was seven or eight against it. Now we will put it to another vote right now and let this be the end of it.
FOR the title:
Against the title: LifeStroke420 ( talk) 16:52, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
No DMN YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. We are gonna vote for it. Vote or you opinion doesnt matter. Im through playing games about this this same discussion has been going on for over a month and just when its over you wanna reopen it. Vote or lose your opinion you choice. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 17:01, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Its the best way to solve this as its two people wanting it in and they keep vandalising the page. LifeStroke420 ( talk) 17:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
As discussed above, I've been working on new color combinations for the main page of WP:PW.
This is what I currently have. I like this one, as does Truco-X. ( here) iMat thew 20 08 17:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Why do we even need a new look for our front page? IMO we could spend a lot more time improving articles instead of working on things in our userspace that do not improve the encyclopedia one bit. It's a front page, does it really matter what it looks like? We have much bigger things to deal with than "the look of our front page". D.M.N. ( talk) 18:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
pretty cool, maybe someone could make a graphic on fireworks or paint shop pro to replace the text "wikiproject Professional Wrestling" to make it look better Straight Edge PXK 18:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Please either support, oppose, or comment on these changes to the layout of the main page. Vote for either Sample 1, Sample 2, or Sample 3. (S1 is the the one at the top of the page, S2 is the middle, S3 is the bottom) iMat thew 20 08 19:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, the majority of the people support sample 1. Before I put it up, are there any additional comments, or opposes to it? iMat thew 20 08 19:51, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I've only done the main page/talk page and COTW. I'm giving a day to see if anybody has any more comments before I finish and change the colors for everything in the project. iMat thew 20 08 01:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Someone is adding information on the Phil Theis page about his work on a website called stickman. Does anyone know anything about this site. I requested info from the IP user who adds it and he placed this on my talk page. I do not have external internet access at work, can someone look at those links, see what they are about, and let me know if it is a verifiable, and b relevant? Thanks Less Than Clippers 19:10, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I just had a look at the article it'self and you shouldn't use that Angelfire source, that's not even 3rd party! The interview is a good attachment article but sourcing from it? Govvy ( talk) 09:22, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Has been going around and re-bolding the results of the PPV articles. Keep an eye out. iMat thew 20 08 20:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
In several of my local papers advertising an NWA event, they advertise Rob Conway as the NWA World Champion. I haven't seen any online reports of this, can anybody confirm/deny this? Kris ( talk) 21:00, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
I stumbled upon WWE Unmatched Fury Action Figures, WCW Galoob Action Figures, WWF Hasbro Action Figures and Wrestling Superstars today. What is the guideline for notability here? Should we delete some? - DrWarpMind ( talk) 03:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Seriously, with all this talk about conscious being needed to change things, how the hell did we allow the bolding of all PPV articles to be removed due to the opinions of ONE EDITOR!?!?! Mshake3 ( talk) 14:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
MOS:BOLD states: Use italics, not boldface, for emphasis in article text. Use boldface in the remainder of the article only for a few special uses:
Hope that makes it clearer. Nikki 311 20:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Should this page exist? DrWarpMind ( talk) 13:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
More than 40% of the articles at GAN (under the sports section) are from this project and alot of them are not getting reviewed, ideas to clear this up?--~ S R S~ 20:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know why people always bring this up. They'll get reviewed eventually....just be patient and review a few articles to get rid of the backlog in front of them. Nikki 311 20:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The new COTW's should be chosen tomorrow, but there is currently a four way tie for first place. Please go vote if you have not yet, to try and break this tie. iMat thew 20 08 23:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
And I updated the "Upcoming" table weeks ago to show the correct dates. -- 13 of Diamonds ( talk) 03:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)