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A user made a whole bunch of separate templates for the gym leaders; i.e. Template:Hoenn Gym Leaders, Template:Johto Gym Leaders, and Template:Kanto Gym Leaders. I think this just screams REDUNDENCY and needs to be fixed. So far I've created Template:Pokémon Gym Leaders, which rolls all three regions' gym leaders into one. I think this should be implemented. I think this needs to be extended to the Elite Four tempaltes, as well. I need help, however, in implementing all of these templates, as well as categorizing the Gym Leaders into appropriate categoreis (seems to be nonexistent). 04:01, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
The last talk was getting a bit big at 130ish kb long, so I've archived it. A link to prior conversations can be found here. Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 17:23, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
It seems as though every trainer page has a huge, ugly list of all the Pokemon they've ever own. This just reeks of fancruft - huge detailed summaries of episodes that I don't believe has little intereste for the general visitor. I attempted to remove the list from the Gary Oak page but was reverted in a rather snide comment:
But, you know, instead of edit warring, I'd like to bring it up here and see what the actual consensus is, not what appears to be the de facto standard. (As an interesting note, the reverter hasn't listed him/herself as a pariticpant of the PCP either.) Hbdragon88 05:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
This project decides on these sorts of things. So let's stop arguing about irrelevant points and decide.
My thoughts? The character articles are awful. The huge Pokémon tables (complete with lists of every single move each Pokémon has used ever) serve little purpose, and have all the problems of bulleted lists, taken to the extreme.
I feel we need to eliminate the lists entirely and replace them with prose. I'm not sure what form that prose should take, but tables and lists are bad ideas, and make these articles look like bad fansites. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 02:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I've created two templates to help attract more potential editors to join the PCP and inform them of what we do by making to universal notes to be posted on user talk pages.
If you see a new editor contributing to Pokémon articles, you may welcome them to the community, and additionally leave a {{subst:Hcp2}} beneath the welcome.
{{subst:Hcp2}} expands to -
== Pokémanics anon ==
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== [[WP:PCP]] ==
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Thoughts? (You need to sign at the end by the way) Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 21:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Think of it like nigger/nigga, which you can’t say unless you yourself are black and in the right context. Also, notice that I don’t use gay as a negative adjective, I use it to describe things which actually have, or are likely to be perceived as having, a homosexual flavor, with no comment on whether that’s good or bad. -- WikidSmaht ( talk) 21:26, 5 May 2006 (UTC)I’m 23/ m, I live in Boston, not sure what else to say about me.
I like, um, men, kitty cats, video games, theatre...
Keep it cool guys... Alvin6226 03:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I need an expert on Pokemon characters to help on a unrelated for the most part project that has Pokemon characters. I am currently putting together a list of the members of the Wold Newton family, and one source is top-filled with Pokemon characters. Since I know nothing of the subject, I need someone who knows the subject well. If the volunteer would go to Wold Newton characters to add in my sandbox and link the characters on this temporary list to their appropriate articles, I would be grateful. Some of the characters are already on the List of Wold Newton Universe characters, but some are not. I am preparing for a massive addition soon. If you want to know who came up with these family connections, see Of Robots, Music and Pokémon on a Wold Newton site. You might be amused.
Thank you in advance for any help that I get. Also, to whomever helps with this, please stop by my talk page and let me know that you have participated here. Lady Aleena 22:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Is this a real character in Emerald? From what it appears, this is a one-shot character, one of the many bit players. Doesn't this article seem ridiculously long for such a small character? Should this be marked for AFD? Hbdragon88 21:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
This is definitely a one-shot character from Emerald that someone has filled out with fanfic. There's no Wanda in Adventures that I know of. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 04:21, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Wow, I’m surprised at you guys! Wanda is in Ruby and Sapphire, too. Without even looking at the article, I can tell you the following: She’s Wally’s cousin, the daughter of the aunt and uncle he was sent to live with( so he could recouperate). She’s also the girl who waits in the Rusturf Tunnel for her sweetheart to break through( the one you help with Rock Smash).
OK, now I looked at it. The Blackbelt thing must be derived from his in-game sprite. The rest of it... Well, it’s not from the games, or Adventures, and I can’t identify the source. It could be some other manga, a webcomic or fanfic. I googled “Wanda Faith Bulbasaur” but no significant results... So, here’s a question: have any of you thought of asking the primary contributor on his talk page where the info came from? Oy. --
WikidSmaht (
talk)
23:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm planning on doing a major clean out of all the Pokémon images since we have cleaner version of images that didn't replace the older ones and bizarrely named random things. I was wondering, is renaming an image exactly the same as moving an article? I didn't want to break anything. If anyone wants to help, they're welcome. Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 20:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
It just hit me that it takes forever to link to a Pokémon-type, so it hit me that redirects could make this easier. So generally I've made a lotta redirects. Anyway, I've only done Water and Fire so far, but if you search for the following it'll link you straight to the type -
I haven't done version without the acute e. Hopefully, this'll make type linking easier. (Help for like.. the other 15 would be appreciated) Cheers,
H
ig
hway
Rainbow Sneakers
22:27, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
You could make templates, like {{ Pokémon Fire}} or something. Templates like Template:USA exist for countries (very useful for the ice skater infoboxes), so why not for Pokémon? Hbdragon88 03:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking we should have such a template, seeing as the {{ future}} template just doesn't look right in articles for Pokémon such as Manene. Comments? -- Tetsuya-san ( talk : contribs) 01:22, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the Team Rocket article has almost no mention of Team Rocket's role in the games. Something needs to be done about it!!! The Raven's Apprentice (Talk) 13:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Three proposals, all regarding templates, and I don’t know much about template syntax so someone else would have to handle them... please respond to each individually.
One: Rewrite {{
pokeimage}}. The way it’s written now, it only really applies to images from the pokemon.com website, or,( and this is stretching it) other official sources. --
WikidSmaht (
talk)
13:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Two: Create a new template, maybe explaining to would-be-deleters that fair use images are part of the project, and if one’s not currently included or linked in any articles, that’s likely the result of vandalism, and they should notify us on this page before deleting it. --
WikidSmaht (
talk)
13:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Three: Merge {{ Gymleaderinfobox}}, {{ Elitefourmemberinfobox}}, and any others like them into an all-purpose {{ Pokémoncharacterinfobox}}, something like this:
{{{name}}} | |
---|---|
{{{image}}}
{{{caption}}} | |
General | |
Japanese name | {{{japanname}}} |
Voiced by* | {{{voiceactor}}} |
From* | [[{{{hometown}}}]], *[[{{{origin}}}]] |
Gymleader of* | [[{{{gymtown}}}]] |
Gym badge* | {{{badge}}} |
Other affiliation(s) | {{{other}}} |
First Appearance | |
Video games* | [[{{{firstgame}}}]] |
Pokémon anime* | [[{{{firstanime}}}]] |
Pokémon Adventures manga* | Ch. {{{firstmangachapter}}}: {{{firstmanganame}}} |
Pokémon info | |
Pokémon specialty | {{{speciality}}} |
Signature Pokémon* | |
Video games* | {{{gameteam}}} |
Pokémon anime* | {{{animeteam}}} |
Pokémon Adventures manga* | {{{mangateam}}} |
Items I’ve marked with an asterisk would ideally be optional, hidden when not used. Most of those are self explanatory, but for clarity: From - [hometown, ]country/region, e.g., Littleroot, Hoenn / Orange Islands / U.S.A; Other affiliation(s) - things like Kanto/Johto/Hoenn Elite Four, League Champion(/former Champion), etc.; Pokémon specialty - Either a type or another function, e.g. Water-type trainer, Pokémon watcher, Po kémon breeder, Pokémon researcher, etc.. For example, Blue and Gary Oak:
Blue | |
---|---|
Image:EliteFour-Green.gif
Blue in FR/LG | |
General | |
Japanese name | グリーン (Green) |
From | Pallet Town, Kanto |
Gymleader of | Viridian City |
Gym badge | Earth Badge |
Other affiliation(s) | Professor Oak’s grandson, one-time Pokémon League Champion |
First Appearance | |
Video games | Pokémon Red and Blue |
Pokémon Adventures manga | Ch. 01: A Glimpse of the Glow |
Pokémon info | |
Pokémon specialty | Pokémon Master, various types |
Signature Pokémon | |
Video games | Venusaur/ Charizard/ Blastoise, Pidgeot, Alakazam, Rhydon, Arcanine/ Gyarados/ Exeggutor |
Pokémon Adventures manga | Charizard, Scizor, Porygon2, Golduck, Rhydon, Machamp |
Gary Oak | |
---|---|
80px
Blue in FR/LG | |
General | |
Japanese name | Shigeru Ōkido |
Voiced by | [whoever it is] |
From | Pallet Town, Kanto |
Other affiliation(s) | Professor Oak’s grandson |
First Appearance | |
Video games | Pokémon Yellow |
Pokémon anime | Pokémon, I Choose You! |
Pokémon info | |
Pokémon specialty | Pokémon researcher, former League trainer |
Signature Pokémon | |
Video games | Vaporeon/ Jolteon/ Flareon, Sandslash, Exeggutor, Alakazam, Magneton/ Ninetales/ Cloyster |
Pokémon anime | Eevee/ Umbreon, Blastoise, Aerodactyl |
Would someone like to tackle this( I didn’t create the ones above, I mashed together parts of the existing ones)? -- WikidSmaht ( talk) 13:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to removing the "signature Pokémon" section. The article will cover this, and, by and large, this is bulky, sometimes POV, and often too much to list in an infobox. I will include the "preferred type" section, for the Gym Leaders and Elite Four and such. -
A Man In Bl♟ck (
conspire |
past ops)
06:15, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
{{Pokémoncharacterinfobox |name=Gary Oak |image= [[:Image:GaryOak.jpg]] |caption=Gary Oak with his [[Eevee]]. |japanname= Shigeru Ōkido |voiceactor= [[Jimmy Zoppi]] |speciality= |occupation= Roving Pokémon trainer and rival to [[Ash Ketchum|Ash]] |firstgame= |firstanime= Ep. 1, "Pokémon, I Choose You!" |firstmanga= |}}
Any thoughts? Anyone want another sample case? Any suggested fields?- A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 06:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I've implemented it in Ash Ketchum (replacing that huge, hand-made kitchen sink box) and am working on implementing it in any character I can find. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 20:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I'm inclined to leave that to whoever does the work, since he/she is clearly going to be more knowledgeable about the anime than I am. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 20:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
I was just updating the Poké infobox count on AMIB's Poképage and I noticed we have introduced the new infobox in the 198 articles. (There's irony for you ;).
Articles with old box (if anyone is painfully bored) -
Oh and think we should add some extra article rules which I'll write down soon. Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 20:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Completed Armaldo-- XenoN e on (converse) 17:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Just finished Luvdisc.-- XenoN e on (converse) 17:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I did Bagon, we're all done! Congratulations and thanks to all! H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 18:09, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 11:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Can someone who uses popups or a similar tool please hit this and bypass all the redirects? Lots of character articles have been moved or merged or redirected, and this is pointing to plenty of redirects and such. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 21:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Right, as above, Butch and Cassidy have been given their own page. Of course naturally, it's managed to make a complete mess when it comes to links, so I need an admin's help.
I need someone to move Butch and Cassidy (Pokémon) to Butch and Cassidy, something only an admin can do. Thank you in advance. H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 13:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
WOAH! I usually don’t respond on this page until I’m ready to reply to everything, but this is fairly urgent. I feel you’re going about this Rocket Project all wrong! And it’s NOT what was proposed. You had proposed spinning off the anime information from the Team Rocket article( well, the specific terminolgy used was “split … into two articles”). This is something else entirely! Devoting
Team Rocket to Jessie, James and Meowth!? Deleting all mention of TR in the games and manga? Creating
Team Rocket Organization? Giving Butch and Cassidy their own page? I vehemently oppose these actions!( And I realize it’s not all you Highway, there’s an editor I know nothing about doing most of it.) Here’s my proposal:
Move
Team Rocket to
Team Rocket (anime)( which will require an admin to delete the redirect I foolishly created there). Then cut & paste non-anime info from current and old versions and
Team Rocket Organization back into to
Team Rocket, including a few paragraphs about the anime in a section with the {{
main}} template. Then Merge Butch and Cassidy back into
Team Rocket (anime).
At any rate, let’s not make any more changes until we reach a new concensus. --
WikidSmaht (
talk)
19:34, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
And we could merge Giovanni, but I personally recommend against it. That article has a lot of biographical info, and all the Kanto Gymleaders have their own articles. -- WikidSmaht ( talk) 20:11, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[Intro]
==In the video games==
[There’s a lot too be said here, but not so much as to be too much]
==In the Anime==
Main article: Team Rocket (anime)
[A few paragraphs describing Jessie, James, and Meowth, mentioning their hunting of Pikachu, their boss, and their rivals briefly.]
==In the ''Pokémon Adventures'' manga==
[Again, there is enough, but not too much, to say about TR’s members and their activites, with a subsection for...]
===Neo Team Rocket===
[A bit about NTR, Mask of Ice, etc.]
Besides merging Giovanni (I really think he should be merged, but it's not something so important that it has to be done right now), I favor Wikid's plan. So, uh, what redirects need to be deleted so I can make this happen? - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 23:26, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
OK, I think I have all the information in the right articles now, but they still desperately need cleanup. At the moment, Team Rocket is not so much an article as an outline with some random info. I’ve made a bunch of lists of confrontation locations, but each item can and should be expanded into a paragraph on what happened there, plus more info on Green and Silver’s background in Adventures, etc.. I will try to work on it when I can, but I’m rather busy IRL and can barely keep up with my watchlist lately. -- WikidSmaht ( talk) 11:08, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
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A user made a whole bunch of separate templates for the gym leaders; i.e. Template:Hoenn Gym Leaders, Template:Johto Gym Leaders, and Template:Kanto Gym Leaders. I think this just screams REDUNDENCY and needs to be fixed. So far I've created Template:Pokémon Gym Leaders, which rolls all three regions' gym leaders into one. I think this should be implemented. I think this needs to be extended to the Elite Four tempaltes, as well. I need help, however, in implementing all of these templates, as well as categorizing the Gym Leaders into appropriate categoreis (seems to be nonexistent). 04:01, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
The last talk was getting a bit big at 130ish kb long, so I've archived it. A link to prior conversations can be found here. Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 17:23, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
It seems as though every trainer page has a huge, ugly list of all the Pokemon they've ever own. This just reeks of fancruft - huge detailed summaries of episodes that I don't believe has little intereste for the general visitor. I attempted to remove the list from the Gary Oak page but was reverted in a rather snide comment:
But, you know, instead of edit warring, I'd like to bring it up here and see what the actual consensus is, not what appears to be the de facto standard. (As an interesting note, the reverter hasn't listed him/herself as a pariticpant of the PCP either.) Hbdragon88 05:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
This project decides on these sorts of things. So let's stop arguing about irrelevant points and decide.
My thoughts? The character articles are awful. The huge Pokémon tables (complete with lists of every single move each Pokémon has used ever) serve little purpose, and have all the problems of bulleted lists, taken to the extreme.
I feel we need to eliminate the lists entirely and replace them with prose. I'm not sure what form that prose should take, but tables and lists are bad ideas, and make these articles look like bad fansites. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 02:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
I've created two templates to help attract more potential editors to join the PCP and inform them of what we do by making to universal notes to be posted on user talk pages.
If you see a new editor contributing to Pokémon articles, you may welcome them to the community, and additionally leave a {{subst:Hcp2}} beneath the welcome.
{{subst:Hcp2}} expands to -
== Pokémanics anon ==
If you are interested in Pokémon articles, you may like to join the Pokémon Collaborative Project, a group of editors who work together to improve Pokémon articles. You can help with our current collaborations (which are Pokémon and Marshtomp) and find out more information on editting articles, as well as discuss Poké-related information. We hope to see you there!
If you either see a new participant to the project, or the editor joins after the first template, you can post {{subst:Hcp}} on their talk page.
{{subst:Hcp}} expands to -
== [[WP:PCP]] ==
Welcome to the Pokémon Collaborative Project, we hope you have a fab time editting Pokémon articles. If you have any questions about the articles, style, content or simply what our favourite Pokémon is (it varies, trust us) leave a message on the project talk page. Cheers and happy editting,
Thoughts? (You need to sign at the end by the way) Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 21:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Think of it like nigger/nigga, which you can’t say unless you yourself are black and in the right context. Also, notice that I don’t use gay as a negative adjective, I use it to describe things which actually have, or are likely to be perceived as having, a homosexual flavor, with no comment on whether that’s good or bad. -- WikidSmaht ( talk) 21:26, 5 May 2006 (UTC)I’m 23/ m, I live in Boston, not sure what else to say about me.
I like, um, men, kitty cats, video games, theatre...
Keep it cool guys... Alvin6226 03:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I need an expert on Pokemon characters to help on a unrelated for the most part project that has Pokemon characters. I am currently putting together a list of the members of the Wold Newton family, and one source is top-filled with Pokemon characters. Since I know nothing of the subject, I need someone who knows the subject well. If the volunteer would go to Wold Newton characters to add in my sandbox and link the characters on this temporary list to their appropriate articles, I would be grateful. Some of the characters are already on the List of Wold Newton Universe characters, but some are not. I am preparing for a massive addition soon. If you want to know who came up with these family connections, see Of Robots, Music and Pokémon on a Wold Newton site. You might be amused.
Thank you in advance for any help that I get. Also, to whomever helps with this, please stop by my talk page and let me know that you have participated here. Lady Aleena 22:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Is this a real character in Emerald? From what it appears, this is a one-shot character, one of the many bit players. Doesn't this article seem ridiculously long for such a small character? Should this be marked for AFD? Hbdragon88 21:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
This is definitely a one-shot character from Emerald that someone has filled out with fanfic. There's no Wanda in Adventures that I know of. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 04:21, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Wow, I’m surprised at you guys! Wanda is in Ruby and Sapphire, too. Without even looking at the article, I can tell you the following: She’s Wally’s cousin, the daughter of the aunt and uncle he was sent to live with( so he could recouperate). She’s also the girl who waits in the Rusturf Tunnel for her sweetheart to break through( the one you help with Rock Smash).
OK, now I looked at it. The Blackbelt thing must be derived from his in-game sprite. The rest of it... Well, it’s not from the games, or Adventures, and I can’t identify the source. It could be some other manga, a webcomic or fanfic. I googled “Wanda Faith Bulbasaur” but no significant results... So, here’s a question: have any of you thought of asking the primary contributor on his talk page where the info came from? Oy. --
WikidSmaht (
talk)
23:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm planning on doing a major clean out of all the Pokémon images since we have cleaner version of images that didn't replace the older ones and bizarrely named random things. I was wondering, is renaming an image exactly the same as moving an article? I didn't want to break anything. If anyone wants to help, they're welcome. Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 20:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
It just hit me that it takes forever to link to a Pokémon-type, so it hit me that redirects could make this easier. So generally I've made a lotta redirects. Anyway, I've only done Water and Fire so far, but if you search for the following it'll link you straight to the type -
I haven't done version without the acute e. Hopefully, this'll make type linking easier. (Help for like.. the other 15 would be appreciated) Cheers,
H
ig
hway
Rainbow Sneakers
22:27, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
You could make templates, like {{ Pokémon Fire}} or something. Templates like Template:USA exist for countries (very useful for the ice skater infoboxes), so why not for Pokémon? Hbdragon88 03:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking we should have such a template, seeing as the {{ future}} template just doesn't look right in articles for Pokémon such as Manene. Comments? -- Tetsuya-san ( talk : contribs) 01:22, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the Team Rocket article has almost no mention of Team Rocket's role in the games. Something needs to be done about it!!! The Raven's Apprentice (Talk) 13:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Three proposals, all regarding templates, and I don’t know much about template syntax so someone else would have to handle them... please respond to each individually.
One: Rewrite {{
pokeimage}}. The way it’s written now, it only really applies to images from the pokemon.com website, or,( and this is stretching it) other official sources. --
WikidSmaht (
talk)
13:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Two: Create a new template, maybe explaining to would-be-deleters that fair use images are part of the project, and if one’s not currently included or linked in any articles, that’s likely the result of vandalism, and they should notify us on this page before deleting it. --
WikidSmaht (
talk)
13:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Three: Merge {{ Gymleaderinfobox}}, {{ Elitefourmemberinfobox}}, and any others like them into an all-purpose {{ Pokémoncharacterinfobox}}, something like this:
{{{name}}} | |
---|---|
{{{image}}}
{{{caption}}} | |
General | |
Japanese name | {{{japanname}}} |
Voiced by* | {{{voiceactor}}} |
From* | [[{{{hometown}}}]], *[[{{{origin}}}]] |
Gymleader of* | [[{{{gymtown}}}]] |
Gym badge* | {{{badge}}} |
Other affiliation(s) | {{{other}}} |
First Appearance | |
Video games* | [[{{{firstgame}}}]] |
Pokémon anime* | [[{{{firstanime}}}]] |
Pokémon Adventures manga* | Ch. {{{firstmangachapter}}}: {{{firstmanganame}}} |
Pokémon info | |
Pokémon specialty | {{{speciality}}} |
Signature Pokémon* | |
Video games* | {{{gameteam}}} |
Pokémon anime* | {{{animeteam}}} |
Pokémon Adventures manga* | {{{mangateam}}} |
Items I’ve marked with an asterisk would ideally be optional, hidden when not used. Most of those are self explanatory, but for clarity: From - [hometown, ]country/region, e.g., Littleroot, Hoenn / Orange Islands / U.S.A; Other affiliation(s) - things like Kanto/Johto/Hoenn Elite Four, League Champion(/former Champion), etc.; Pokémon specialty - Either a type or another function, e.g. Water-type trainer, Pokémon watcher, Po kémon breeder, Pokémon researcher, etc.. For example, Blue and Gary Oak:
Blue | |
---|---|
Image:EliteFour-Green.gif
Blue in FR/LG | |
General | |
Japanese name | グリーン (Green) |
From | Pallet Town, Kanto |
Gymleader of | Viridian City |
Gym badge | Earth Badge |
Other affiliation(s) | Professor Oak’s grandson, one-time Pokémon League Champion |
First Appearance | |
Video games | Pokémon Red and Blue |
Pokémon Adventures manga | Ch. 01: A Glimpse of the Glow |
Pokémon info | |
Pokémon specialty | Pokémon Master, various types |
Signature Pokémon | |
Video games | Venusaur/ Charizard/ Blastoise, Pidgeot, Alakazam, Rhydon, Arcanine/ Gyarados/ Exeggutor |
Pokémon Adventures manga | Charizard, Scizor, Porygon2, Golduck, Rhydon, Machamp |
Gary Oak | |
---|---|
80px
Blue in FR/LG | |
General | |
Japanese name | Shigeru Ōkido |
Voiced by | [whoever it is] |
From | Pallet Town, Kanto |
Other affiliation(s) | Professor Oak’s grandson |
First Appearance | |
Video games | Pokémon Yellow |
Pokémon anime | Pokémon, I Choose You! |
Pokémon info | |
Pokémon specialty | Pokémon researcher, former League trainer |
Signature Pokémon | |
Video games | Vaporeon/ Jolteon/ Flareon, Sandslash, Exeggutor, Alakazam, Magneton/ Ninetales/ Cloyster |
Pokémon anime | Eevee/ Umbreon, Blastoise, Aerodactyl |
Would someone like to tackle this( I didn’t create the ones above, I mashed together parts of the existing ones)? -- WikidSmaht ( talk) 13:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to removing the "signature Pokémon" section. The article will cover this, and, by and large, this is bulky, sometimes POV, and often too much to list in an infobox. I will include the "preferred type" section, for the Gym Leaders and Elite Four and such. -
A Man In Bl♟ck (
conspire |
past ops)
06:15, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
{{Pokémoncharacterinfobox |name=Gary Oak |image= [[:Image:GaryOak.jpg]] |caption=Gary Oak with his [[Eevee]]. |japanname= Shigeru Ōkido |voiceactor= [[Jimmy Zoppi]] |speciality= |occupation= Roving Pokémon trainer and rival to [[Ash Ketchum|Ash]] |firstgame= |firstanime= Ep. 1, "Pokémon, I Choose You!" |firstmanga= |}}
Any thoughts? Anyone want another sample case? Any suggested fields?- A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 06:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
I've implemented it in Ash Ketchum (replacing that huge, hand-made kitchen sink box) and am working on implementing it in any character I can find. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 20:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I'm inclined to leave that to whoever does the work, since he/she is clearly going to be more knowledgeable about the anime than I am. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 20:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
I was just updating the Poké infobox count on AMIB's Poképage and I noticed we have introduced the new infobox in the 198 articles. (There's irony for you ;).
Articles with old box (if anyone is painfully bored) -
Oh and think we should add some extra article rules which I'll write down soon. Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 20:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Completed Armaldo-- XenoN e on (converse) 17:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Just finished Luvdisc.-- XenoN e on (converse) 17:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I did Bagon, we're all done! Congratulations and thanks to all! H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 18:09, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 11:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Can someone who uses popups or a similar tool please hit this and bypass all the redirects? Lots of character articles have been moved or merged or redirected, and this is pointing to plenty of redirects and such. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 21:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Right, as above, Butch and Cassidy have been given their own page. Of course naturally, it's managed to make a complete mess when it comes to links, so I need an admin's help.
I need someone to move Butch and Cassidy (Pokémon) to Butch and Cassidy, something only an admin can do. Thank you in advance. H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 13:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
WOAH! I usually don’t respond on this page until I’m ready to reply to everything, but this is fairly urgent. I feel you’re going about this Rocket Project all wrong! And it’s NOT what was proposed. You had proposed spinning off the anime information from the Team Rocket article( well, the specific terminolgy used was “split … into two articles”). This is something else entirely! Devoting
Team Rocket to Jessie, James and Meowth!? Deleting all mention of TR in the games and manga? Creating
Team Rocket Organization? Giving Butch and Cassidy their own page? I vehemently oppose these actions!( And I realize it’s not all you Highway, there’s an editor I know nothing about doing most of it.) Here’s my proposal:
Move
Team Rocket to
Team Rocket (anime)( which will require an admin to delete the redirect I foolishly created there). Then cut & paste non-anime info from current and old versions and
Team Rocket Organization back into to
Team Rocket, including a few paragraphs about the anime in a section with the {{
main}} template. Then Merge Butch and Cassidy back into
Team Rocket (anime).
At any rate, let’s not make any more changes until we reach a new concensus. --
WikidSmaht (
talk)
19:34, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
And we could merge Giovanni, but I personally recommend against it. That article has a lot of biographical info, and all the Kanto Gymleaders have their own articles. -- WikidSmaht ( talk) 20:11, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[Intro]
==In the video games==
[There’s a lot too be said here, but not so much as to be too much]
==In the Anime==
Main article: Team Rocket (anime)
[A few paragraphs describing Jessie, James, and Meowth, mentioning their hunting of Pikachu, their boss, and their rivals briefly.]
==In the ''Pokémon Adventures'' manga==
[Again, there is enough, but not too much, to say about TR’s members and their activites, with a subsection for...]
===Neo Team Rocket===
[A bit about NTR, Mask of Ice, etc.]
Besides merging Giovanni (I really think he should be merged, but it's not something so important that it has to be done right now), I favor Wikid's plan. So, uh, what redirects need to be deleted so I can make this happen? - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 23:26, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
OK, I think I have all the information in the right articles now, but they still desperately need cleanup. At the moment, Team Rocket is not so much an article as an outline with some random info. I’ve made a bunch of lists of confrontation locations, but each item can and should be expanded into a paragraph on what happened there, plus more info on Green and Silver’s background in Adventures, etc.. I will try to work on it when I can, but I’m rather busy IRL and can barely keep up with my watchlist lately. -- WikidSmaht ( talk) 11:08, 14 May 2006 (UTC)