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I've put this up for deletion here. -- Klein zach 02:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Any suggestion? - Jay ( talk) 19:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Tell you what, here's 12 months to start you off, taken solely from what we already have uploaded and on commons, and which I could find witha cursory search:
A little heavy on the Caruso and Mozart perhaps, but an entire years' worth should be enough to get you started. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 11:17, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Any new opera news to be added? If you have any, please add on. I want to archive 2007 news but will only do it if we have more news for 2008. PS- I changed "Singer of the month of September" to José Carreras. - Jay ( talk) 10:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Can someone confirm that Mexico's National Opera and Palacio de Bellas Artes are the same? I couldn’t find any article about Mexico's National Opera on the internet, all the references at the end pointing to Palacio de Bellas Artes. If they are the same, I have been thinking to redirect “Mexico's National Opera” to Palacio de Bellas Artes. I posted this question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mexico too . Thanks. - Jay ( talk) 08:41, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Do you want this in the project? Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 02:25, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
OK. Shall we provisionally assume this is just about an opera and banner it? Any objections? -- Klein zach 10:10, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
For the past few months, I've been compiling lists of complete operas by composer, particularly prolific composers. I've made these into sections within the biographies, but in a number of cases the lists have been longer than the rest of the articles. So I've split them off into new pages (as per MOS), which I've now grouped in the Category:Lists of operas by composer. The formatting of these articles is not 100% consistent, and more work could be done on them. I tried to save myself as much typing as possible by using existing lists in foreign wikis (particularly the Dutch), before comparing them with the lists in Grove (and editing to/adding to the information where necessary).
Obviously, most of the operas listed will never have dedicated articles, but that's not the point of the lists. I'm hoping that the information will form a kind of bottom layer in our 'opera database' against which the accuracy of other articles can be checked. Grove and other encyclopedias have these lists, but in our case we can link them to other articles (composers, librettists, operas, genres, singers, theatres etc), so WP can make greater use of them. -- Klein zach 07:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC) (P.S. And the next time some so-called expert says that Don Giovanni is the last notable dramma giocoso, we'll be able to list all the examples written in the 19th century!)
Selket has just written nine one-line articles on Vivaldi operas. None of them have entries in Grove. They are:
(Notes from the Grove Vivaldi article)
I've asked Selket to tell us what he intends to do with these articles, bearing in mind that Vivaldi wrote over 50 operas and the titles above don't appear to be particularly notable ones. Any comments? Has anyone got any information on any of these works? Have any of them been recorded? -- Klein zach 01:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm happy to help, but I always do the opera lists in a word processor using global find/replace. If you can give me the time tomorrow morning (Japan time) I'll do all the cities and theatres, but I don't want to work out of sync with you otherwise we'll have two distinct versions. Re the columns, the years are usually on the left (e.g. List of operas by Pacini) - I don't know if it's appropriate here? (If the operas are all 'dramma per musica' (or pasticchios) we probably don't need a genre column.) There is a more elaborate list in the Italian Wiki here. P.S. This article should probably be called 'List of operas by Vivaldi' to match the Category:Lists of operas by composer series? -- Klein zach 10:30, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Two questions about the 1718 operas: Is Scanderbeg (opera) completely lost as the list suggests or not per the article? Perhaps the libretto survives? Should we make Armida al campo d'Egitto into a redirect if there is no more information? -- Klein zach 00:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Following the discussion last month, I've used Kleinzach's suggestion for "great sopranos who've slipped through the Wikipedia net". (See the box above) Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 13:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
I like the news section to be updated frequently. If you have any, please add on. I want to archive year 2007 news but will only do it if we have more news for year 2008. I do not want to "spam" the section with Domingo's news because he is the only "news" I know :) - (smile if you want). For that, I need your help. Thanks - Jay ( talk) 04:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Would anyone like to give an opinion about this audio clip? It's a 'Featured Sound' candidate which I guess is equivalent to a 'Featured article':
There is a discussion here. Mid 19th century English opera is not really my subject, so maybe someone else can add productively to the discussion? Thanks. Best. -- Klein zach 07:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I just came across a composer and an opera of interest to opera history. Tomás de Torrejón y Velasco who wrote the first known opera written in America, La Púrpura de la Rosa (1701). The opera doesn't have an article and the composer had no music banner of any kind so I added the opera banner. Anyway, the article is unreferenced so I thought maybe we could spruce it up a bit and possibly add this opera to the list of important operas. What do you all think? Nrswanson ( talk) 20:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Article 4,994 is now up and published. We've had a rush of new articles on Vivaldi and Michael Nyman operas etc. (Can we identify number 5,000, if possible?)
In June we discussed celebration plans, see 5,000 articles: cause for celebration? GuillaumeTell and Peter cohen were suggesting a gathering at the London Proms. I think we could do press releases for the US/Britain. (I'm less enthusiastic about doing anything within Wikipedia.) Any ideas, thoughts? -- Klein zach 03:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Maybe some kind of virtual celebration? We're probably well-dispersed in the world. Although I wouldn't mind some kind of New York City event. :) -- kosboot ( talk) 18:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I'd rather discuss this here than cause drama by just.. you know, orcing ahead.
I'm not convinced by the fair use rationale of this. Pavarotti is, of course, a notable tenor, but there's surely something free use for La Boheme? It's not even a very useful photo, as it's not like La boheme has particularly distinctive costumes. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 15:57, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 65 | ← | Archive 67 | Archive 68 | Archive 69 | Archive 70 | Archive 71 | → | Archive 75 |
I've put this up for deletion here. -- Klein zach 02:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Any suggestion? - Jay ( talk) 19:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Tell you what, here's 12 months to start you off, taken solely from what we already have uploaded and on commons, and which I could find witha cursory search:
A little heavy on the Caruso and Mozart perhaps, but an entire years' worth should be enough to get you started. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 11:17, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Any new opera news to be added? If you have any, please add on. I want to archive 2007 news but will only do it if we have more news for 2008. PS- I changed "Singer of the month of September" to José Carreras. - Jay ( talk) 10:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Can someone confirm that Mexico's National Opera and Palacio de Bellas Artes are the same? I couldn’t find any article about Mexico's National Opera on the internet, all the references at the end pointing to Palacio de Bellas Artes. If they are the same, I have been thinking to redirect “Mexico's National Opera” to Palacio de Bellas Artes. I posted this question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mexico too . Thanks. - Jay ( talk) 08:41, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Do you want this in the project? Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 02:25, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
OK. Shall we provisionally assume this is just about an opera and banner it? Any objections? -- Klein zach 10:10, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
For the past few months, I've been compiling lists of complete operas by composer, particularly prolific composers. I've made these into sections within the biographies, but in a number of cases the lists have been longer than the rest of the articles. So I've split them off into new pages (as per MOS), which I've now grouped in the Category:Lists of operas by composer. The formatting of these articles is not 100% consistent, and more work could be done on them. I tried to save myself as much typing as possible by using existing lists in foreign wikis (particularly the Dutch), before comparing them with the lists in Grove (and editing to/adding to the information where necessary).
Obviously, most of the operas listed will never have dedicated articles, but that's not the point of the lists. I'm hoping that the information will form a kind of bottom layer in our 'opera database' against which the accuracy of other articles can be checked. Grove and other encyclopedias have these lists, but in our case we can link them to other articles (composers, librettists, operas, genres, singers, theatres etc), so WP can make greater use of them. -- Klein zach 07:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC) (P.S. And the next time some so-called expert says that Don Giovanni is the last notable dramma giocoso, we'll be able to list all the examples written in the 19th century!)
Selket has just written nine one-line articles on Vivaldi operas. None of them have entries in Grove. They are:
(Notes from the Grove Vivaldi article)
I've asked Selket to tell us what he intends to do with these articles, bearing in mind that Vivaldi wrote over 50 operas and the titles above don't appear to be particularly notable ones. Any comments? Has anyone got any information on any of these works? Have any of them been recorded? -- Klein zach 01:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm happy to help, but I always do the opera lists in a word processor using global find/replace. If you can give me the time tomorrow morning (Japan time) I'll do all the cities and theatres, but I don't want to work out of sync with you otherwise we'll have two distinct versions. Re the columns, the years are usually on the left (e.g. List of operas by Pacini) - I don't know if it's appropriate here? (If the operas are all 'dramma per musica' (or pasticchios) we probably don't need a genre column.) There is a more elaborate list in the Italian Wiki here. P.S. This article should probably be called 'List of operas by Vivaldi' to match the Category:Lists of operas by composer series? -- Klein zach 10:30, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Two questions about the 1718 operas: Is Scanderbeg (opera) completely lost as the list suggests or not per the article? Perhaps the libretto survives? Should we make Armida al campo d'Egitto into a redirect if there is no more information? -- Klein zach 00:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Following the discussion last month, I've used Kleinzach's suggestion for "great sopranos who've slipped through the Wikipedia net". (See the box above) Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 13:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
I like the news section to be updated frequently. If you have any, please add on. I want to archive year 2007 news but will only do it if we have more news for year 2008. I do not want to "spam" the section with Domingo's news because he is the only "news" I know :) - (smile if you want). For that, I need your help. Thanks - Jay ( talk) 04:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Would anyone like to give an opinion about this audio clip? It's a 'Featured Sound' candidate which I guess is equivalent to a 'Featured article':
There is a discussion here. Mid 19th century English opera is not really my subject, so maybe someone else can add productively to the discussion? Thanks. Best. -- Klein zach 07:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I just came across a composer and an opera of interest to opera history. Tomás de Torrejón y Velasco who wrote the first known opera written in America, La Púrpura de la Rosa (1701). The opera doesn't have an article and the composer had no music banner of any kind so I added the opera banner. Anyway, the article is unreferenced so I thought maybe we could spruce it up a bit and possibly add this opera to the list of important operas. What do you all think? Nrswanson ( talk) 20:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Article 4,994 is now up and published. We've had a rush of new articles on Vivaldi and Michael Nyman operas etc. (Can we identify number 5,000, if possible?)
In June we discussed celebration plans, see 5,000 articles: cause for celebration? GuillaumeTell and Peter cohen were suggesting a gathering at the London Proms. I think we could do press releases for the US/Britain. (I'm less enthusiastic about doing anything within Wikipedia.) Any ideas, thoughts? -- Klein zach 03:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Maybe some kind of virtual celebration? We're probably well-dispersed in the world. Although I wouldn't mind some kind of New York City event. :) -- kosboot ( talk) 18:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I'd rather discuss this here than cause drama by just.. you know, orcing ahead.
I'm not convinced by the fair use rationale of this. Pavarotti is, of course, a notable tenor, but there's surely something free use for La Boheme? It's not even a very useful photo, as it's not like La boheme has particularly distinctive costumes. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 15:57, 3 September 2008 (UTC)