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An editor has moved Francesco Cilea to Francesco Cilèa. There's a discussion on Talk:Francesco Cilèa if anyone here wants to comment. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 12:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I offer for consideration John Frederick Lampe's Pyramus and Thisbe and The Dragon of Wantley, both of which deserve their own articles rather than be subsumed in others; Felix Mendelssohn's operas Die Hochzeit von Camacho and Die beide Neffen; and Bortniansky's Alcide (and maybe some of his others). Smerus ( talk) 18:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
I am happy to go for Nrswanson's M list for August; maybe a Milloecker enthusiast may have appeared since May...... Smerus ( talk) 18:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I think we are all agreed to do the 19th century. The question is whether we use Nathan's list above or the 19th century list compiled by Folantin, GT and myself which features more (15) composers on the basis of one opera each. I prefer the latter because it's more balanced. (This doesn't mean that Nathan's list is rejected in any way. It's still a good idea to go ahead and do them.)
The point about CotM is that it is a masthead advert for the Opera Project designed to attract new members. It's not some kind of monthly contest. (Regarding the Millöcker, GT - who originally suggested it - was going to do it on the basis of the German article
[3] but didn't have time. Anybody want to translate it? (Please note the German article entitles the revised version, whereas I think we'd want to do the original.) --
Klein
zach
23:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
A suggestion:
Good, now we are all singing from the same hymnsheet, which period should we do? 19th, 20th or Classical era? -- Klein zach 04:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
This discussion seems to have gone cold. It seems the 19th century is attracting the most interest so far. Perhaps this list (taken from Folantin's page) is acceptable?
If there are no objections/amendments I'll list it in a couple of days. -- Klein zach 00:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I just started a new project dedicated to editing articles related to music theory. The scope of the project includes articles on the following:
All are welcome to join and participate. Nrswanson ( talk) 17:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
This list has been at FLC for six days, during which time it has attracted one support and one "comments resolved". Some comments have been added to the list's talk page. No comment or opinion of any kind has come from anyone associated with the Opera project.
This puzzles me - not the lack of support (maybe it doesn't warrant it), but the apparent lack of any interest. When I first posted the list there was interest within the project and some debate; the reception was generally favourable, positive suggestions were made. Someone even ventured a view that this format could become a standard for opera lists. These comments made me feel that a featured list was a possiblity and that an attempt in this direction would be welcomed. So I am somewhat baffled by the ensuing total silence. There seems to have been a change of heart - are initiatives from non-project members frowned on? Have I trodden on someone's toes? If I am being paranoid, well, there's still time to make a comment at FLC; any show of interest would be welcome. Brianboulton ( talk) 16:33, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Once again there is now conflict regarding the presentation of Battle's firing. A neutrality tag has been placed by myself because several pieces of information have been removed in favor of Battle fans. I would appriciate some of you expressing your opinions whatever they may be. I thought this whole this was solved since no one has complained in a long time. Nrswanson ( talk) 23:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if someone could have a look at Salvatore Fisichella? There are problems with the article (including a massive copy and paste effort). In particular it's claimed that Fisichella is "the only tenor during the 20th century to have played and sung the major opera roles of . . . Bellini" . I've questioned this on the Salvatore Fisichella talk page.
The SPA creator of the article, Luis Miguel31, has also been editing Tenor repeatedly removing a Carreras Youtube link in favour of a Fisichella one [4]. -- Klein zach 01:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Have duly added my two cents re Fisichella on the talk page, although I wouldn't call myself a "Bellini expert". Re the tenor page... None of those links should be there. They all appear to be to copyrighted video material. (Ditto this link at the end of the article, [6], which has copyright audio material). Second of all they are in complete violation of the Wikipedia Manual of Style, e.g. "To hear an example of a Dramatic tenor (Franco Corelli in the role of Radames from Verdi's Aida), click on this link: Watch Here". Yuck! Voceditenore ( talk) 11:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I've posted about the future direction of our Music Project 'step-mother' here. It's relevant to us because it involves a decision about whether or not a Music Project banner goes on all music article talk pages (and other things). I'd be grateful for opinions/comments. Thanks and regards. -- Klein zach 09:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Please give your suggestion. Thanks - Jay ( talk) 14:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok then, however feel free to change if you guys have any other suggestions.
- Jay ( talk) 15:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry all, this has slipped through the net since I've been away so much this month. August 1st now looms. Any suggestions?
If not, we could holdover the July singers who are still redlinked...
Or this other suggestion from last month - filling Australian gaps...
Voceditenore ( talk) 16:50, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Another suggestion:
Leocavallo role creators:
Voceditenore ( talk) 06:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
As I'm about to flee to Italia la bella, have gone for the Leoncavallo role creators. But agree the great sopranos would be good too. Perhaps for another month? Anyhow, feel free to change it. Voceditenore ( talk) 13:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
It would be a big help if this article could have some input from members of the OP, especially the latest section of the talk page. Off to Italy.... Voceditenore ( talk) 17:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Until recently the Maestro article focused on music and opera. (There was also a paragraph on similar middle eastern terms for 'music master' such as Ostad, Ustad etc.) An IP has now reverted to a two week old version, deleting a whole paragraph, removing an opera terms navigation box and putting a heading on the Talk page to say "The scope of this article is not confined to opera" . See the talk page. -- Klein zach 02:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Which is correct for the Antonio Sacchini opera? Someone has been (rather halfheartedly) changing Oedipe to Œdipe, though Œdipe à Colone is still a redirect to the Sophocles play Oedipus at Colonus. Grove give Oedipe but that may just be typographical convenience. -- Klein zach 01:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia: Signpost is asking if anyone will handle the Wikiproject section, and I thought I'd have a go. I thought WikiProject Opera was an obvious first choice, so I was wondering if all of you were willing to be interviewed on this page? I'll edit it down afterwards to discussion highlights, and link to the full discussion. =) Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 08:50, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to be away for virtually all of August. Any suggestions for this month? I'd rather not wait until August 28th when I get back. Voceditenore ( talk) 16:50, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
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An editor has moved Francesco Cilea to Francesco Cilèa. There's a discussion on Talk:Francesco Cilèa if anyone here wants to comment. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 12:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
I offer for consideration John Frederick Lampe's Pyramus and Thisbe and The Dragon of Wantley, both of which deserve their own articles rather than be subsumed in others; Felix Mendelssohn's operas Die Hochzeit von Camacho and Die beide Neffen; and Bortniansky's Alcide (and maybe some of his others). Smerus ( talk) 18:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
I am happy to go for Nrswanson's M list for August; maybe a Milloecker enthusiast may have appeared since May...... Smerus ( talk) 18:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I think we are all agreed to do the 19th century. The question is whether we use Nathan's list above or the 19th century list compiled by Folantin, GT and myself which features more (15) composers on the basis of one opera each. I prefer the latter because it's more balanced. (This doesn't mean that Nathan's list is rejected in any way. It's still a good idea to go ahead and do them.)
The point about CotM is that it is a masthead advert for the Opera Project designed to attract new members. It's not some kind of monthly contest. (Regarding the Millöcker, GT - who originally suggested it - was going to do it on the basis of the German article
[3] but didn't have time. Anybody want to translate it? (Please note the German article entitles the revised version, whereas I think we'd want to do the original.) --
Klein
zach
23:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
A suggestion:
Good, now we are all singing from the same hymnsheet, which period should we do? 19th, 20th or Classical era? -- Klein zach 04:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
This discussion seems to have gone cold. It seems the 19th century is attracting the most interest so far. Perhaps this list (taken from Folantin's page) is acceptable?
If there are no objections/amendments I'll list it in a couple of days. -- Klein zach 00:04, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I just started a new project dedicated to editing articles related to music theory. The scope of the project includes articles on the following:
All are welcome to join and participate. Nrswanson ( talk) 17:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
This list has been at FLC for six days, during which time it has attracted one support and one "comments resolved". Some comments have been added to the list's talk page. No comment or opinion of any kind has come from anyone associated with the Opera project.
This puzzles me - not the lack of support (maybe it doesn't warrant it), but the apparent lack of any interest. When I first posted the list there was interest within the project and some debate; the reception was generally favourable, positive suggestions were made. Someone even ventured a view that this format could become a standard for opera lists. These comments made me feel that a featured list was a possiblity and that an attempt in this direction would be welcomed. So I am somewhat baffled by the ensuing total silence. There seems to have been a change of heart - are initiatives from non-project members frowned on? Have I trodden on someone's toes? If I am being paranoid, well, there's still time to make a comment at FLC; any show of interest would be welcome. Brianboulton ( talk) 16:33, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Once again there is now conflict regarding the presentation of Battle's firing. A neutrality tag has been placed by myself because several pieces of information have been removed in favor of Battle fans. I would appriciate some of you expressing your opinions whatever they may be. I thought this whole this was solved since no one has complained in a long time. Nrswanson ( talk) 23:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if someone could have a look at Salvatore Fisichella? There are problems with the article (including a massive copy and paste effort). In particular it's claimed that Fisichella is "the only tenor during the 20th century to have played and sung the major opera roles of . . . Bellini" . I've questioned this on the Salvatore Fisichella talk page.
The SPA creator of the article, Luis Miguel31, has also been editing Tenor repeatedly removing a Carreras Youtube link in favour of a Fisichella one [4]. -- Klein zach 01:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Have duly added my two cents re Fisichella on the talk page, although I wouldn't call myself a "Bellini expert". Re the tenor page... None of those links should be there. They all appear to be to copyrighted video material. (Ditto this link at the end of the article, [6], which has copyright audio material). Second of all they are in complete violation of the Wikipedia Manual of Style, e.g. "To hear an example of a Dramatic tenor (Franco Corelli in the role of Radames from Verdi's Aida), click on this link: Watch Here". Yuck! Voceditenore ( talk) 11:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
I've posted about the future direction of our Music Project 'step-mother' here. It's relevant to us because it involves a decision about whether or not a Music Project banner goes on all music article talk pages (and other things). I'd be grateful for opinions/comments. Thanks and regards. -- Klein zach 09:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Please give your suggestion. Thanks - Jay ( talk) 14:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok then, however feel free to change if you guys have any other suggestions.
- Jay ( talk) 15:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry all, this has slipped through the net since I've been away so much this month. August 1st now looms. Any suggestions?
If not, we could holdover the July singers who are still redlinked...
Or this other suggestion from last month - filling Australian gaps...
Voceditenore ( talk) 16:50, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Another suggestion:
Leocavallo role creators:
Voceditenore ( talk) 06:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
As I'm about to flee to Italia la bella, have gone for the Leoncavallo role creators. But agree the great sopranos would be good too. Perhaps for another month? Anyhow, feel free to change it. Voceditenore ( talk) 13:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
It would be a big help if this article could have some input from members of the OP, especially the latest section of the talk page. Off to Italy.... Voceditenore ( talk) 17:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Until recently the Maestro article focused on music and opera. (There was also a paragraph on similar middle eastern terms for 'music master' such as Ostad, Ustad etc.) An IP has now reverted to a two week old version, deleting a whole paragraph, removing an opera terms navigation box and putting a heading on the Talk page to say "The scope of this article is not confined to opera" . See the talk page. -- Klein zach 02:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Which is correct for the Antonio Sacchini opera? Someone has been (rather halfheartedly) changing Oedipe to Œdipe, though Œdipe à Colone is still a redirect to the Sophocles play Oedipus at Colonus. Grove give Oedipe but that may just be typographical convenience. -- Klein zach 01:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia: Signpost is asking if anyone will handle the Wikiproject section, and I thought I'd have a go. I thought WikiProject Opera was an obvious first choice, so I was wondering if all of you were willing to be interviewed on this page? I'll edit it down afterwards to discussion highlights, and link to the full discussion. =) Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 08:50, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to be away for virtually all of August. Any suggestions for this month? I'd rather not wait until August 28th when I get back. Voceditenore ( talk) 16:50, 26 July 2008 (UTC)