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There were and are many theaters by this name around the world. Right now these pages redirect to a film and one specific theater. See here for an example of a foreign language wikipedia with a disambiguation page already in place. 4meter4 ( talk) 12:45, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
Is there a reason we don't have a category for the Ring Cycle/has there ever been one? It seems obvious since we have a bunch of articles relating to it, not just the operas themselves but others, but I wanted to check here first. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 01:24, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
I translated Colette Lorand and can't find a ref for her debut in Basel as Marguerite in Faust in 1945. Help? Probably in the Kutsch, but the page is not online. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:16, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
I have been submitting an article on the Min-on Concert Association and made edits based on suggestions from editors. I was referred to this page but am not sure how to present the article to the editors here. Stgrlee16 ( talk) 19:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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I have a Vivienne Chatterton, soprano, active at the BBC in the 1920s & 30s (examples: 1, 2, 3, 4)... not sure if it is the same person as, or a different person than Vivienne Chatterton, actor. Can anyone throw any light on this? Much obliged; thanks. -- Tagishsimon ( talk) 00:02, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
CHATTERTON, VIVIENNE CYNTHIA. Singer and Actress, b. London. Has an unusual talent for every type of dialect. Daughter of English father and French mother. Won open scholarship at Royal College of Music, 1919. Sang lieder, oratorio and opera, and appeared in a number of London musical productions. Last stage part before the war was the Welsh cook in "She Was Too Young" at Wyndham's. Joined B.B.C. Drama Rep. Company in 1939. Broadcast continually to schools for five years. Rejoined Drama Rep. in 1945. Has appeared in many recent programmes including the Forsyte serial. Did Television before the war.
See deletion discussions for Operas set in Scandinavia and Operas set in Iberia which I've put up for deletion as superfluous. Smerus ( talk) 11:37, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Voceditenore ( talk) 17:37, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
As I have amended it already, I wonder if someone would help with the reference to 2018 Prague performances, which I have already put in the right place but has been added back today. Many thanks Cg2p0B0u8m ( talk) 21:18, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
As requested for March, I translated Cathinka Buchwieser, but now she is an orphan. Help? Three red-link operas ... - She is pictured/painted naked in the Theater an der Wien, DYK? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:39, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, and for the pic clarification! - Update: I'm close to nominating her for DYK. 4 more red-link operas there ;) - Today, I began the last of four German sopranos requested for March, but her pic is not yet on the commons. Help? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:03, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
While starting to go through the Verdi operas adding an image of the composer, which they mostly lack (seems disrespectful to me to have pictures of the singers etc but not the composer) due to the composer template being replaced by infoboxes, I notice that all except the very most popular ones will say something like "the opera has only been rarely staged in modern times" ( Giovanna d'Arco), except for this production, that production, the other production, and give a long list of when it has in fact been staged which is out of date as it stops about five years ago. This pattern is repeated on almost every article on the operas except the warhorses such as La Traviata, Aida, etc. Isn't it true that especially since the bicentenary in 2013, any opera by Verdi,even ones which used to be very obscure, may very well turn up in performance at just about any major opera house? Is it worth going through the articles and adding, for instance, that Anna Netrebko and Placido Domingo gave concert performances of "Giovanna d'Arco" in 2013 and La Scala staged "Giovanna d'Arco" with Anna Netrebko in 2015? and then you have an even longer list - "nobody puts this opera on except for this long list of when they did" - is that useful or interesting? What other solutions to this can anyone suggest? Thanks Smeat75 ( talk) 20:35, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
i've gotten interested in opera recently and just learned that today, it was announced that Ian Derrer moved from the Kentucky Opera to the Dallas Opera as general director/CEO. i wanted to update his page to reflect this, and then noticed he doesn't have a page. i'm always interested in what makes someone notable so i'd appreciate insight into if he is notable or not. if so, i'd be interested to challenge myself to page creation. thanks. CanoeUnlined ( talk) 21:52, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
ATTN: EDITORS - RE: Nestor Mesta Chayres and Juan Arvizu
Hello fellow Wikipedian Editors: In the event that you have some free time kindly examine the new biographical articles Nestor Mesta Chayres and Juan Arvizu for a quality/importance assessment for the Wikiproject Opera. Each of these lyric tenors from Mexico achieved international acclaim interpreting the boleros of Agustín Lara as well as the standard operatic repertoire and were held in high esteem both in North and South America as well as in Europe and new York during the 1930s and the 1940s. They also recorded extensively for RCA, RCA Victor, and Columbia Records in both North and South America with leading concert orchestras and radio orchestras. Their musical legacy has been archived for posterity on Archive.org as documented in the external links section (See: [1] and [2]
Enjoy and kindly accept my sincerest thanks in advance for your kind and thoughtful consideration. With best regards for the future success of Wikiproject Opera - 72.69.152.90 ( talk) 20:25, 7 April 2018 (UTC)JJ
Can others please have a look at the articles Maria di Rohan, Maria de Rudenz, Marino Faliero (opera) and Imelda de' Lambertazzi. They have been / are being extensively revised, if that's the word, by what, if you look at the edit histories, seems to be two IP's and one user with a name but I believe they are all the same person. The articles were quite OK until this process started and now they all have long quotes from contemporary reviews, all sorts of unreferenced material, long long lists of early performances, most of it without any sources, many many red links, personal opinion such as " Perhaps too many critics like Donizetti in a box, as if all his operas must operate in the same way, as if all must compete with Lucia di Lammermoor", eccentric synopses with quotes of untranslated text from the libretti such as “Ove son? - Chi piange qui?.... / Mio nipote ov'è? Morì? / Voi chi siete? - Che piangete? / Ma Fernando ov'è" and the synopses all end with the word "FINE" in capitals. In my opinion these "revisions" have turned these articles into hot messes. I have left a note on the talk page of one of the IP's, but I feel the best thing would be to revert all four of these articles back to the versions they were before they started undergoing these changes. That seems a bit drastic though so I am wondering what others think. Thanks. Smeat75 ( talk) 20:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
On
Macbeth there's a {{
page needed}}
tag on a cite to
Deryck Cooke's Vindications: Essays on Romantic Music (1982), specifically the essay "Shakespeare into Music" (1964), supporting the following quote:
Only during the present Verdi craze could his Macbeth be seriously set beside its tremendous original. What can we make of a Macbeth who pursues his fatal vision through a musical desert of the old fustian recitative, or a Lady Macbeth whose prayer to be unsexed is a barn-storming martial cabaletta? In the "Grand scena di sonnambulismo", admittedly, Verdi did so magically stroke the big strumming guitar of his orchestra, and so chasten the vocal pride of Italian bel canto, as to foreshadow his achievements of some forty years later.
If anyone has access to either the original essay or the reprinted version—or, in a pinch, can cite the quote to a different source (someone using the same quote perhaps?)—it would be much appreciated. My field is Shakespeare, so for those opera articles that intersect with Shakespeare I will generally lack both the relevant expertise and access to sources. Any assistance would be very much appreciated! -- Xover ( talk) 09:57, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Just a note for those interested: Otello appears to have been a labour of love by a small group of editors who are now inactive, and looks to me to be generally in pretty good shape. It's currently B-class but has, again by my best estimate, definite potential to become a Featured Article. The biggest problems I can see are a somewhat excessive Synopsis, and a large section of musical analysis that is entirely unsourced (and is probably original research). Opera is way way outside my field of even marginal competence (I'm a Shakespeare geek), but if anyone actually familiar with the subject is interested, I think a FA push could be a good project. I would of course be happy to help out there, but I probably wouldn't have much of value to contribute outside of possibly some technical stuff (citation templates and such, if needed). -- Xover ( talk) 11:02, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Apropos of Portal:Opera, I have been checking its sub-pages and found several left over from the period before the portal was redesigned in 2009. They are no longer used and have been superseded by other sub-pages which conform to Featured Portal criteria. I have tagged these pages for speedy deletion under G6 (housekeeping/technical deletions). The list of tagged pages can be found at Portal talk:Opera#Deprecated pages tagged for speedy deletion. Voceditenore ( talk) 12:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
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Bravo to Jacqke for the newly expanded Bernardo De Pace. It made today's main Did You Know section with:
A fascinating article! I'm also going to add it to the DYK section of Portal:Opera tomorrow. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 18:48, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Help please. Someone keeps adding from her website. (Not that what was our article before is much better, sadly.) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:31, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
I've been rifling through the contributions of several users, looking for talk page archives with non-standard naming schemes and trying to fix them when necessary. Tonight the user whose edits I've been checking was Kleinzach, and when I found a page entitled "List of operettas by Offenbach" (with its archive), I moved it to List of operettas by Jacques Offenbach without a second thought, because most articles with titles in the form "List of XXX by YYY" use full names (such as the lists of compositions pages). Ditto with List of operas by Handel. Then I came upon the relevant cat and went gung-ho, moving all the articles whose surnames start with A and B and updating links/templates. Unless there is general consensus here that I deserve to be screamed at for my actions so far, I plan to do this for the entire category. I love classical music (but not so much opera), but I have a visceral hatred of the practice of referring to people by surnames on Wikipedia on first mention; it just seems so elitist to me. The list formerly at the title list of operas by Adam almost sounds as if it could be a list of operas by Adam. And I'd also note that the list of operas by Antonio Vivaldi has been at that title for over three years seemingly without complaint. I searched the archives here but couldn't find any mention of first names, so here I am. Graham 87 13:31, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Graham, many thanks for taking this on, heroic work!!! But - looking at Category:Lists of operas by composer, I see that there are curious variants in the articles listed. Apart from 'list of operas by', there are 'list of operas and operettas by', 'lists of works for the stage by', and even ' list of stage and broadcast works by'. In the latter case it includes a ballet and a number of ballades - so not a list of operas then. Some of the lists of 'works for the stage by' - e.g. List of works for the stage by Manuel de Falla - also include incidental music and ballets. So I ask editors, is there a need of a rethink as to what title can apply to what sort of list?. Best, -- Smerus ( talk) 12:03, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
A single purpose editor has been doing nothing on Wikipedia but placing links to the Online Music Library on dozens of articles. They place them at the very top of "External links" sections and even created Template:OpenMusicLibrary for the purpose. Note, that the original version of this template had two links to the OML, one for the person and one to the site's homepage. I have since altered it to remove the latter link [4]. This is a for-profit site (owned by Pro-Quest) which aims to get people to subscribe to their streaming and paywall articles. See here. The pages have nothing on them that contributes to further knowledge about the person. See, for example, their pages on Maria Callas and Telemann. I am in the process of removing all of these links (about 30 so far), but would like members' opinion on this. This is a list of the 60+ pages still linked to the template. Previous spammers from this company had also added 30+ links to this site in 2016 and 2017–2018. Some, but not all, of those have since been removed. I have posted a similar message on this issue at the Classical Music project, because there isn't a complete overlap in membership. Voceditenore ( talk) 10:46, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
This is something not covered in Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Article guidelines but one can survey the precedents at Category:Opera singers. I'm considering moving User:Sparafucil/Paul Bender to Paul Bender (singer) instead of Paul Bender (bass), Paul Bender (musician) having been being homesteaded by an electric bass player of undetermined notability and Paul Bender being ready for a move to Paul Bender (jurist). There are a couple of other naming variations such as Peter Cornelius (opera singer) and Caroline Müller (1755-1826), apparently a move from Caroline Müller (mezzo-soprano). It's of course revealing of WP's coverage of women in general that hardly any sopranos or mezzos have needed dabs. Sparafucil ( talk) 04:59, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
To perhaps clarify, the two already common forms are (voice-type) and (singer), the outlier (opera singer) merely arousing my curiosity about a possible correspondingly named (flamenco singer) (and btw what male singer hasn't started out with some baritone rep?). But (bassist) is established, so Paul Bender (bass) it will be, Zwischenfach or no (I note though two incoming links, by different editors, to Paul Bender (singer)). As to the tangent, it's touching that anyone can be so certain there's no possibility of bias, but the proffered theory hardly begins to explain away Category:German operatic basses (5/25) and Category:German operatic sopranos (0/134). Sparafucil ( talk) 00:02, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
On
A Midsummer Night's Dream (opera), there is a cleanup tag attached to the reception: The opera originally received a mixed critical assessment. Britten's estranged collaborator
W. H. Auden dismissed it as "dreadful – pure
Kensington," while many others{{
Who}} praised it highly.
I'm incapable of navigating the relevant sources, but surely someone here can either rewrite the reception bit or find an attributable positive review to cite for the tagged part of the sentence? --
Xover (
talk)
09:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Katie Clarke was a red link for Jahrhundertring, or rather 8 red links. I can't find much about her. Anybody around who has printed records from the ENO? There are many women with that name which doesn't make things easier. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:24, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
We have this image of the first Rhinemaidens in Bayreuth, in 1876, but this source has it reverse, making it difficult to say who's who. Any help welcome, looking at a main page appearance for the opening of the Bayreuth festival on 25 July. Lilli Lehmann is in the middle, that's for sure, but where is Minna Lammert (Floßhilde) on which version? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:17, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
I wrote a draft for an article on the icelandic opera Ragnheiður, to be found in my sandbox (Not sure, though, if you can see it? I've never written much before. Currently it's waiting for a review), trying to adhere to the structure of other articles and the information posted here in the WikiProject. Would very much like to hear your opinions (and also proofreading, because English isn't my native language); there is already an article on the opera on the German Wikipedia ( Ragnheiður), so I thought it would be good to add one to the English one as well. AccioFelicis ( talk) 07:33, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Who does these ratings of opera articles "Stub, start, C class" etc? It is impossible to tell by looking at the box at the top of the talk page how recently they were done. I feel a lot of them were "rated" when the article was created and have not been updated since, for instance Ottone, Giulio Cesare and Semele (Handel) are all rated "Start class" which I think is ridiculous. Le prophète is rated B-class, fair enough, but Les Huguenots "start class" which seems silly. I don't like to "rate" articles I have re-written myself, is it possible to request a rating from someone else? I don't actually care about these ratings or GA or FA status as I don't think the readers know or care about such things, I had a very bad first experience with trying to get an article promoted to GA status with a reviewer who knew absolutely nothing about the subject and swore never to bother with "status" again. However the other day an editor said something to me like "I don't know why you are being so fussy about this article, it is only C class" so for that reason I would like the "ratings" to reflect reality a little better. ( talk) 21:49, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
|importance=
parameter is a way for the WikiProject to prioritise its work.The quality rating is mostly standardised across projects, but with quite a lot of room for subjective judgement in each category. To a degree,
Smerus and
Gerda Arendt are right: Stub and Start are relatively clear categories, and GA and FA have associated peer-review processes, but everything else is pretty random. But, and this is the crucial bit, the WikiProject is who does these ratings! That means the WikiProject has latitude to define its practices in this regard (within reason, of course). As an example,
Military History has implemented their own process and detailed, project-specific, criteria for A- and B-class. I haven't looked in detail, but I believe the setup is roughly: B-class is a checklist of MILHIST-specific criteria that anyone can assess against, but A- class requires review in a process maintained by the WikiProject (think FA, but strictly within the MILHIST project).At that point you have Stub-class (any minimal new article; no cites, no structure); Start-class (at least one cite, at least one heading); C-class (everything else: better than Start but not yet A/B/GA/FA); B-class (self-assessed against project-specific checklist); A-class (project-assessed against project-specific criteria); GA-class (lightweight community-assessed against community-wide criteria; probably comparable to B-class); FA (comprehensively community-assessed against community-wide criteria). If the project doesn't have the capacity or interest in maintaining A- and B-class, and doesn't specifically relate to GA and FA, then the effective scale becomes: Stub, Start, C.That is, you can opt out of using A and B class (and these can be disabled in {{
WikiProject Opera}}
), and have a scale of Stub, Start, everything else (C) for anything that hasn't been through a community process (GA, FA). Or you can define Opera-specific criteria and process for A- and B-class and use those actively.I want to argue in favor of using at least the minimal quality rating system as a good way to organize work: if you use it conciously, for that, it's a good system. Where it falls down is if you start to assign meaning to it that it doesn't actually have: it is not like a star rating for a hotel or restaurant, which seems like what frustrated
Smeat75 above, and more like the project's internal todo list. There is no reason why you should not review or re-review an article you've worked on, any more than there would be a reason for not crossing out an item on a todo list when the item has been completed. Unless the project (A-class) or community (GA/FA-class) has defined a specific process that entails independent review, of course. --
Xover (
talk)
06:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
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The article on soprano Cheryl Studer has been overrun with obvious COI SPAs, who have written the bulk of the article, mostly without citations, and have edit-warred to preserve their edits. The editors in question are:
In fact, the accounts may all be the same editor, as there is a long break between the start and stop of each account.
In any case, the article has a lot of tags at the top and is in need of help and eyes. Thank you. Softlavender ( talk) 03:10, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
In La Belle et la Bête (opera), we miss a ref for the soloists of the premiere. I assume that they are the same as for the first recording, but that's propably not enough. Help? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:37, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
"Naturally, he's an opera lover" - The Washington Post has a nice profile of User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Meet the Most Prolific Contirbutor To the English Wikipedia. - kosboot ( talk) 18:14, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Back in 2011 we had a spate of spurious additions to discographies by an Italian IP. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera/Archive 100#Spurious "discographer" at it again for background. He may have returned. The IPs currently involved are 37.77.121.12 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), 37.77.114.53 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), 176.32.28.46 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), and possibly others in those ranges, all of which resolve to Linkem SpA in central/southern Italy. Their additions to La fiamma were clearly non-existent recordings, ditto Médée (Cherubini). There other additions need to be checked. Also, if any you find discography changes in articles on your watchlists added without references and by an IP, it may be better to remove them to the talk page pending verification. Pinging NinjaRobotPirate who has reverted some of their edits in other opera-related discographies. Voceditenore ( talk) 09:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
He is now creating external references for his fakes on opera.fandom.com. -- Rodomonte ( talk) 20:19, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Opéra bouffon. Voceditenore ( talk) 10:04, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Needs eyes. A Russian comedy actress and TV star of the same name was killed in a traffic accident on October 19 [10]. There have already been two attempts to state that the opera singer, i.e. the subject of Marina Poplavskaya, was killed on October 19. Meanwhile, the opera singer appears to have retired and gone into real estate. Probably true, but the sole source I can find is Norman Lebrecht's blog, which should never be used as a source for anything, let alone a BLP. However, this appears to be her (with a brief bio) listed on the official website of Citi Habitats (a NY real estate firm). Voceditenore ( talk) 14:37, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Both are notable, but both have been receiving the attentions of an obvious PR rep. I've cleaned up the Perez article somewhat. The Sierra article needs further checking. Voceditenore ( talk) 13:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
In writing an article about Odoardo Ceccarelli who was an opera singer and a singer in the Sistine Chapel Choir, I was taken aback by the utterly appalling state of that article. Zero references to scholarly sources, incomplete, POV, and badly written. Not the least of this is the goofy "Golden Age" headings, and especially the so-called "Second Golden Age", allegedly presided over by Lorenzo Perosi. Much of the article is cribbed verbatim from the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia overlaid with the dreadful ministrations of a series of sockpuppets who were attempting to promote Leonardo Ciampa and his self-published biography of Perosi. Antandrus will remember that saga. Anyhow, this is just a heads-up if anyone is looking for something to do. Voceditenore ( talk) 16:35, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. -- Izno Repeat ( talk) 21:49, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
I don't know what to think of this edit to an opera, Zazà. I feel provoked, but will try to ignore. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:17, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello everyone! I need help with this draft I prevented from deletion over a year ago and have been working on lately.
I would very much appreciate any advice or help! OrestesLebt ( talk) 05:41, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
I noticed some links to operabase.com pages suddenly leading to empty pages. Maybe the link structure changed with the recent redesign of the page, or maybe the links had not been created from the "permalink" but the URL shown in the browser? I'm going to replace those broken links with currently working ones, assuming that this is not something that will be fixed on the operabase side. One question: If a broken link entry has an access date, should I update it or not?
For example, the empty link:
The working link would be:
OrestesLebt ( talk) 17:49, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
As far as I know, Opera Musica uses websites of artists, theatres and wikipedia as its source. If artists 'claim' the pages created about them, they can edit the content. Entries in Biography, Repertoire, Education, Competitions and Press might therefore be self published. The Agenda section, Assuming events in it can be edited by every listed artist, might be more reliable, if more than one artist in an event has a claimed profile. Thoughts? OrestesLebt ( talk) 11:20, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Per this, Andreas Bauer announced that from December 2018, he is Andreas Bauer Kanabas, - including his mother's surname, probably tired of being confused with sports people and a double bass player. What do we do? Move? Say it's another name? How about the prose? - Never had this before. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
| other_names =
. Best,
Voceditenore (
talk)
18:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
See here (talk page of L'Africaine): an editor has added information on a new edition and is asserting that the title of the article will need to change. Comments invited.-- Smerus ( talk) 10:26, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
This month: A general update.
The current status of the project is as follows:
Until next time,
-— Isarra ༆ 22:44, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Opinions welcome -- Smerus ( talk) 21:24, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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There were and are many theaters by this name around the world. Right now these pages redirect to a film and one specific theater. See here for an example of a foreign language wikipedia with a disambiguation page already in place. 4meter4 ( talk) 12:45, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
Is there a reason we don't have a category for the Ring Cycle/has there ever been one? It seems obvious since we have a bunch of articles relating to it, not just the operas themselves but others, but I wanted to check here first. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 01:24, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
I translated Colette Lorand and can't find a ref for her debut in Basel as Marguerite in Faust in 1945. Help? Probably in the Kutsch, but the page is not online. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:16, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
I have been submitting an article on the Min-on Concert Association and made edits based on suggestions from editors. I was referred to this page but am not sure how to present the article to the editors here. Stgrlee16 ( talk) 19:13, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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-— Isarra ༆ 21:26, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
I have a Vivienne Chatterton, soprano, active at the BBC in the 1920s & 30s (examples: 1, 2, 3, 4)... not sure if it is the same person as, or a different person than Vivienne Chatterton, actor. Can anyone throw any light on this? Much obliged; thanks. -- Tagishsimon ( talk) 00:02, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
CHATTERTON, VIVIENNE CYNTHIA. Singer and Actress, b. London. Has an unusual talent for every type of dialect. Daughter of English father and French mother. Won open scholarship at Royal College of Music, 1919. Sang lieder, oratorio and opera, and appeared in a number of London musical productions. Last stage part before the war was the Welsh cook in "She Was Too Young" at Wyndham's. Joined B.B.C. Drama Rep. Company in 1939. Broadcast continually to schools for five years. Rejoined Drama Rep. in 1945. Has appeared in many recent programmes including the Forsyte serial. Did Television before the war.
See deletion discussions for Operas set in Scandinavia and Operas set in Iberia which I've put up for deletion as superfluous. Smerus ( talk) 11:37, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Voceditenore ( talk) 17:37, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
As I have amended it already, I wonder if someone would help with the reference to 2018 Prague performances, which I have already put in the right place but has been added back today. Many thanks Cg2p0B0u8m ( talk) 21:18, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
As requested for March, I translated Cathinka Buchwieser, but now she is an orphan. Help? Three red-link operas ... - She is pictured/painted naked in the Theater an der Wien, DYK? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 14:39, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, and for the pic clarification! - Update: I'm close to nominating her for DYK. 4 more red-link operas there ;) - Today, I began the last of four German sopranos requested for March, but her pic is not yet on the commons. Help? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:03, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
While starting to go through the Verdi operas adding an image of the composer, which they mostly lack (seems disrespectful to me to have pictures of the singers etc but not the composer) due to the composer template being replaced by infoboxes, I notice that all except the very most popular ones will say something like "the opera has only been rarely staged in modern times" ( Giovanna d'Arco), except for this production, that production, the other production, and give a long list of when it has in fact been staged which is out of date as it stops about five years ago. This pattern is repeated on almost every article on the operas except the warhorses such as La Traviata, Aida, etc. Isn't it true that especially since the bicentenary in 2013, any opera by Verdi,even ones which used to be very obscure, may very well turn up in performance at just about any major opera house? Is it worth going through the articles and adding, for instance, that Anna Netrebko and Placido Domingo gave concert performances of "Giovanna d'Arco" in 2013 and La Scala staged "Giovanna d'Arco" with Anna Netrebko in 2015? and then you have an even longer list - "nobody puts this opera on except for this long list of when they did" - is that useful or interesting? What other solutions to this can anyone suggest? Thanks Smeat75 ( talk) 20:35, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
i've gotten interested in opera recently and just learned that today, it was announced that Ian Derrer moved from the Kentucky Opera to the Dallas Opera as general director/CEO. i wanted to update his page to reflect this, and then noticed he doesn't have a page. i'm always interested in what makes someone notable so i'd appreciate insight into if he is notable or not. if so, i'd be interested to challenge myself to page creation. thanks. CanoeUnlined ( talk) 21:52, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
ATTN: EDITORS - RE: Nestor Mesta Chayres and Juan Arvizu
Hello fellow Wikipedian Editors: In the event that you have some free time kindly examine the new biographical articles Nestor Mesta Chayres and Juan Arvizu for a quality/importance assessment for the Wikiproject Opera. Each of these lyric tenors from Mexico achieved international acclaim interpreting the boleros of Agustín Lara as well as the standard operatic repertoire and were held in high esteem both in North and South America as well as in Europe and new York during the 1930s and the 1940s. They also recorded extensively for RCA, RCA Victor, and Columbia Records in both North and South America with leading concert orchestras and radio orchestras. Their musical legacy has been archived for posterity on Archive.org as documented in the external links section (See: [1] and [2]
Enjoy and kindly accept my sincerest thanks in advance for your kind and thoughtful consideration. With best regards for the future success of Wikiproject Opera - 72.69.152.90 ( talk) 20:25, 7 April 2018 (UTC)JJ
Can others please have a look at the articles Maria di Rohan, Maria de Rudenz, Marino Faliero (opera) and Imelda de' Lambertazzi. They have been / are being extensively revised, if that's the word, by what, if you look at the edit histories, seems to be two IP's and one user with a name but I believe they are all the same person. The articles were quite OK until this process started and now they all have long quotes from contemporary reviews, all sorts of unreferenced material, long long lists of early performances, most of it without any sources, many many red links, personal opinion such as " Perhaps too many critics like Donizetti in a box, as if all his operas must operate in the same way, as if all must compete with Lucia di Lammermoor", eccentric synopses with quotes of untranslated text from the libretti such as “Ove son? - Chi piange qui?.... / Mio nipote ov'è? Morì? / Voi chi siete? - Che piangete? / Ma Fernando ov'è" and the synopses all end with the word "FINE" in capitals. In my opinion these "revisions" have turned these articles into hot messes. I have left a note on the talk page of one of the IP's, but I feel the best thing would be to revert all four of these articles back to the versions they were before they started undergoing these changes. That seems a bit drastic though so I am wondering what others think. Thanks. Smeat75 ( talk) 20:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
On
Macbeth there's a {{
page needed}}
tag on a cite to
Deryck Cooke's Vindications: Essays on Romantic Music (1982), specifically the essay "Shakespeare into Music" (1964), supporting the following quote:
Only during the present Verdi craze could his Macbeth be seriously set beside its tremendous original. What can we make of a Macbeth who pursues his fatal vision through a musical desert of the old fustian recitative, or a Lady Macbeth whose prayer to be unsexed is a barn-storming martial cabaletta? In the "Grand scena di sonnambulismo", admittedly, Verdi did so magically stroke the big strumming guitar of his orchestra, and so chasten the vocal pride of Italian bel canto, as to foreshadow his achievements of some forty years later.
If anyone has access to either the original essay or the reprinted version—or, in a pinch, can cite the quote to a different source (someone using the same quote perhaps?)—it would be much appreciated. My field is Shakespeare, so for those opera articles that intersect with Shakespeare I will generally lack both the relevant expertise and access to sources. Any assistance would be very much appreciated! -- Xover ( talk) 09:57, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Just a note for those interested: Otello appears to have been a labour of love by a small group of editors who are now inactive, and looks to me to be generally in pretty good shape. It's currently B-class but has, again by my best estimate, definite potential to become a Featured Article. The biggest problems I can see are a somewhat excessive Synopsis, and a large section of musical analysis that is entirely unsourced (and is probably original research). Opera is way way outside my field of even marginal competence (I'm a Shakespeare geek), but if anyone actually familiar with the subject is interested, I think a FA push could be a good project. I would of course be happy to help out there, but I probably wouldn't have much of value to contribute outside of possibly some technical stuff (citation templates and such, if needed). -- Xover ( talk) 11:02, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
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Apropos of Portal:Opera, I have been checking its sub-pages and found several left over from the period before the portal was redesigned in 2009. They are no longer used and have been superseded by other sub-pages which conform to Featured Portal criteria. I have tagged these pages for speedy deletion under G6 (housekeeping/technical deletions). The list of tagged pages can be found at Portal talk:Opera#Deprecated pages tagged for speedy deletion. Voceditenore ( talk) 12:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
This month: WikiProject X: The resumption
Work has resumed on WikiProject X and CollaborationKit, backed by a successfully funded Project Grant. For more information on the current status and planned work, please see this month's issue of the newsletter!
-— Isarra ༆ 22:24, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Bravo to Jacqke for the newly expanded Bernardo De Pace. It made today's main Did You Know section with:
A fascinating article! I'm also going to add it to the DYK section of Portal:Opera tomorrow. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 18:48, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Help please. Someone keeps adding from her website. (Not that what was our article before is much better, sadly.) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:31, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
I've been rifling through the contributions of several users, looking for talk page archives with non-standard naming schemes and trying to fix them when necessary. Tonight the user whose edits I've been checking was Kleinzach, and when I found a page entitled "List of operettas by Offenbach" (with its archive), I moved it to List of operettas by Jacques Offenbach without a second thought, because most articles with titles in the form "List of XXX by YYY" use full names (such as the lists of compositions pages). Ditto with List of operas by Handel. Then I came upon the relevant cat and went gung-ho, moving all the articles whose surnames start with A and B and updating links/templates. Unless there is general consensus here that I deserve to be screamed at for my actions so far, I plan to do this for the entire category. I love classical music (but not so much opera), but I have a visceral hatred of the practice of referring to people by surnames on Wikipedia on first mention; it just seems so elitist to me. The list formerly at the title list of operas by Adam almost sounds as if it could be a list of operas by Adam. And I'd also note that the list of operas by Antonio Vivaldi has been at that title for over three years seemingly without complaint. I searched the archives here but couldn't find any mention of first names, so here I am. Graham 87 13:31, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Graham, many thanks for taking this on, heroic work!!! But - looking at Category:Lists of operas by composer, I see that there are curious variants in the articles listed. Apart from 'list of operas by', there are 'list of operas and operettas by', 'lists of works for the stage by', and even ' list of stage and broadcast works by'. In the latter case it includes a ballet and a number of ballades - so not a list of operas then. Some of the lists of 'works for the stage by' - e.g. List of works for the stage by Manuel de Falla - also include incidental music and ballets. So I ask editors, is there a need of a rethink as to what title can apply to what sort of list?. Best, -- Smerus ( talk) 12:03, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
A single purpose editor has been doing nothing on Wikipedia but placing links to the Online Music Library on dozens of articles. They place them at the very top of "External links" sections and even created Template:OpenMusicLibrary for the purpose. Note, that the original version of this template had two links to the OML, one for the person and one to the site's homepage. I have since altered it to remove the latter link [4]. This is a for-profit site (owned by Pro-Quest) which aims to get people to subscribe to their streaming and paywall articles. See here. The pages have nothing on them that contributes to further knowledge about the person. See, for example, their pages on Maria Callas and Telemann. I am in the process of removing all of these links (about 30 so far), but would like members' opinion on this. This is a list of the 60+ pages still linked to the template. Previous spammers from this company had also added 30+ links to this site in 2016 and 2017–2018. Some, but not all, of those have since been removed. I have posted a similar message on this issue at the Classical Music project, because there isn't a complete overlap in membership. Voceditenore ( talk) 10:46, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
This is something not covered in Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Article guidelines but one can survey the precedents at Category:Opera singers. I'm considering moving User:Sparafucil/Paul Bender to Paul Bender (singer) instead of Paul Bender (bass), Paul Bender (musician) having been being homesteaded by an electric bass player of undetermined notability and Paul Bender being ready for a move to Paul Bender (jurist). There are a couple of other naming variations such as Peter Cornelius (opera singer) and Caroline Müller (1755-1826), apparently a move from Caroline Müller (mezzo-soprano). It's of course revealing of WP's coverage of women in general that hardly any sopranos or mezzos have needed dabs. Sparafucil ( talk) 04:59, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
To perhaps clarify, the two already common forms are (voice-type) and (singer), the outlier (opera singer) merely arousing my curiosity about a possible correspondingly named (flamenco singer) (and btw what male singer hasn't started out with some baritone rep?). But (bassist) is established, so Paul Bender (bass) it will be, Zwischenfach or no (I note though two incoming links, by different editors, to Paul Bender (singer)). As to the tangent, it's touching that anyone can be so certain there's no possibility of bias, but the proffered theory hardly begins to explain away Category:German operatic basses (5/25) and Category:German operatic sopranos (0/134). Sparafucil ( talk) 00:02, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
On
A Midsummer Night's Dream (opera), there is a cleanup tag attached to the reception: The opera originally received a mixed critical assessment. Britten's estranged collaborator
W. H. Auden dismissed it as "dreadful – pure
Kensington," while many others{{
Who}} praised it highly.
I'm incapable of navigating the relevant sources, but surely someone here can either rewrite the reception bit or find an attributable positive review to cite for the tagged part of the sentence? --
Xover (
talk)
09:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Katie Clarke was a red link for Jahrhundertring, or rather 8 red links. I can't find much about her. Anybody around who has printed records from the ENO? There are many women with that name which doesn't make things easier. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 07:24, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
We have this image of the first Rhinemaidens in Bayreuth, in 1876, but this source has it reverse, making it difficult to say who's who. Any help welcome, looking at a main page appearance for the opening of the Bayreuth festival on 25 July. Lilli Lehmann is in the middle, that's for sure, but where is Minna Lammert (Floßhilde) on which version? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:17, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
I wrote a draft for an article on the icelandic opera Ragnheiður, to be found in my sandbox (Not sure, though, if you can see it? I've never written much before. Currently it's waiting for a review), trying to adhere to the structure of other articles and the information posted here in the WikiProject. Would very much like to hear your opinions (and also proofreading, because English isn't my native language); there is already an article on the opera on the German Wikipedia ( Ragnheiður), so I thought it would be good to add one to the English one as well. AccioFelicis ( talk) 07:33, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Who does these ratings of opera articles "Stub, start, C class" etc? It is impossible to tell by looking at the box at the top of the talk page how recently they were done. I feel a lot of them were "rated" when the article was created and have not been updated since, for instance Ottone, Giulio Cesare and Semele (Handel) are all rated "Start class" which I think is ridiculous. Le prophète is rated B-class, fair enough, but Les Huguenots "start class" which seems silly. I don't like to "rate" articles I have re-written myself, is it possible to request a rating from someone else? I don't actually care about these ratings or GA or FA status as I don't think the readers know or care about such things, I had a very bad first experience with trying to get an article promoted to GA status with a reviewer who knew absolutely nothing about the subject and swore never to bother with "status" again. However the other day an editor said something to me like "I don't know why you are being so fussy about this article, it is only C class" so for that reason I would like the "ratings" to reflect reality a little better. ( talk) 21:49, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
|importance=
parameter is a way for the WikiProject to prioritise its work.The quality rating is mostly standardised across projects, but with quite a lot of room for subjective judgement in each category. To a degree,
Smerus and
Gerda Arendt are right: Stub and Start are relatively clear categories, and GA and FA have associated peer-review processes, but everything else is pretty random. But, and this is the crucial bit, the WikiProject is who does these ratings! That means the WikiProject has latitude to define its practices in this regard (within reason, of course). As an example,
Military History has implemented their own process and detailed, project-specific, criteria for A- and B-class. I haven't looked in detail, but I believe the setup is roughly: B-class is a checklist of MILHIST-specific criteria that anyone can assess against, but A- class requires review in a process maintained by the WikiProject (think FA, but strictly within the MILHIST project).At that point you have Stub-class (any minimal new article; no cites, no structure); Start-class (at least one cite, at least one heading); C-class (everything else: better than Start but not yet A/B/GA/FA); B-class (self-assessed against project-specific checklist); A-class (project-assessed against project-specific criteria); GA-class (lightweight community-assessed against community-wide criteria; probably comparable to B-class); FA (comprehensively community-assessed against community-wide criteria). If the project doesn't have the capacity or interest in maintaining A- and B-class, and doesn't specifically relate to GA and FA, then the effective scale becomes: Stub, Start, C.That is, you can opt out of using A and B class (and these can be disabled in {{
WikiProject Opera}}
), and have a scale of Stub, Start, everything else (C) for anything that hasn't been through a community process (GA, FA). Or you can define Opera-specific criteria and process for A- and B-class and use those actively.I want to argue in favor of using at least the minimal quality rating system as a good way to organize work: if you use it conciously, for that, it's a good system. Where it falls down is if you start to assign meaning to it that it doesn't actually have: it is not like a star rating for a hotel or restaurant, which seems like what frustrated
Smeat75 above, and more like the project's internal todo list. There is no reason why you should not review or re-review an article you've worked on, any more than there would be a reason for not crossing out an item on a todo list when the item has been completed. Unless the project (A-class) or community (GA/FA-class) has defined a specific process that entails independent review, of course. --
Xover (
talk)
06:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
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The article on soprano Cheryl Studer has been overrun with obvious COI SPAs, who have written the bulk of the article, mostly without citations, and have edit-warred to preserve their edits. The editors in question are:
In fact, the accounts may all be the same editor, as there is a long break between the start and stop of each account.
In any case, the article has a lot of tags at the top and is in need of help and eyes. Thank you. Softlavender ( talk) 03:10, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
In La Belle et la Bête (opera), we miss a ref for the soloists of the premiere. I assume that they are the same as for the first recording, but that's propably not enough. Help? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 11:37, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
"Naturally, he's an opera lover" - The Washington Post has a nice profile of User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Meet the Most Prolific Contirbutor To the English Wikipedia. - kosboot ( talk) 18:14, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Back in 2011 we had a spate of spurious additions to discographies by an Italian IP. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera/Archive 100#Spurious "discographer" at it again for background. He may have returned. The IPs currently involved are 37.77.121.12 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), 37.77.114.53 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), 176.32.28.46 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), and possibly others in those ranges, all of which resolve to Linkem SpA in central/southern Italy. Their additions to La fiamma were clearly non-existent recordings, ditto Médée (Cherubini). There other additions need to be checked. Also, if any you find discography changes in articles on your watchlists added without references and by an IP, it may be better to remove them to the talk page pending verification. Pinging NinjaRobotPirate who has reverted some of their edits in other opera-related discographies. Voceditenore ( talk) 09:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
He is now creating external references for his fakes on opera.fandom.com. -- Rodomonte ( talk) 20:19, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Opéra bouffon. Voceditenore ( talk) 10:04, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Needs eyes. A Russian comedy actress and TV star of the same name was killed in a traffic accident on October 19 [10]. There have already been two attempts to state that the opera singer, i.e. the subject of Marina Poplavskaya, was killed on October 19. Meanwhile, the opera singer appears to have retired and gone into real estate. Probably true, but the sole source I can find is Norman Lebrecht's blog, which should never be used as a source for anything, let alone a BLP. However, this appears to be her (with a brief bio) listed on the official website of Citi Habitats (a NY real estate firm). Voceditenore ( talk) 14:37, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Both are notable, but both have been receiving the attentions of an obvious PR rep. I've cleaned up the Perez article somewhat. The Sierra article needs further checking. Voceditenore ( talk) 13:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
In writing an article about Odoardo Ceccarelli who was an opera singer and a singer in the Sistine Chapel Choir, I was taken aback by the utterly appalling state of that article. Zero references to scholarly sources, incomplete, POV, and badly written. Not the least of this is the goofy "Golden Age" headings, and especially the so-called "Second Golden Age", allegedly presided over by Lorenzo Perosi. Much of the article is cribbed verbatim from the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia overlaid with the dreadful ministrations of a series of sockpuppets who were attempting to promote Leonardo Ciampa and his self-published biography of Perosi. Antandrus will remember that saga. Anyhow, this is just a heads-up if anyone is looking for something to do. Voceditenore ( talk) 16:35, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. -- Izno Repeat ( talk) 21:49, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
I don't know what to think of this edit to an opera, Zazà. I feel provoked, but will try to ignore. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:17, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello everyone! I need help with this draft I prevented from deletion over a year ago and have been working on lately.
I would very much appreciate any advice or help! OrestesLebt ( talk) 05:41, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
I noticed some links to operabase.com pages suddenly leading to empty pages. Maybe the link structure changed with the recent redesign of the page, or maybe the links had not been created from the "permalink" but the URL shown in the browser? I'm going to replace those broken links with currently working ones, assuming that this is not something that will be fixed on the operabase side. One question: If a broken link entry has an access date, should I update it or not?
For example, the empty link:
The working link would be:
OrestesLebt ( talk) 17:49, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
As far as I know, Opera Musica uses websites of artists, theatres and wikipedia as its source. If artists 'claim' the pages created about them, they can edit the content. Entries in Biography, Repertoire, Education, Competitions and Press might therefore be self published. The Agenda section, Assuming events in it can be edited by every listed artist, might be more reliable, if more than one artist in an event has a claimed profile. Thoughts? OrestesLebt ( talk) 11:20, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Per this, Andreas Bauer announced that from December 2018, he is Andreas Bauer Kanabas, - including his mother's surname, probably tired of being confused with sports people and a double bass player. What do we do? Move? Say it's another name? How about the prose? - Never had this before. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
| other_names =
. Best,
Voceditenore (
talk)
18:21, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
See here (talk page of L'Africaine): an editor has added information on a new edition and is asserting that the title of the article will need to change. Comments invited.-- Smerus ( talk) 10:26, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
This month: A general update.
The current status of the project is as follows:
Until next time,
-— Isarra ༆ 22:44, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Opinions welcome -- Smerus ( talk) 21:24, 28 December 2018 (UTC)