I feel need of creating a new heading where we can have topics regarding Open_source- Free_Culture_movement- Free_and_open-source_software and its various popular products like KDE, GNOME & mysql and many more. Giving open source exposure to school students will be very advantageous.
Post above added by User:Madanpiyush. Sinebot, where are you? AshLin ( talk) 08:47, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Following table will be very useful:
Madanpiyush ( talk) 10:21, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
We can use following portals to get required Articles
Madanpiyush ( talk) 10:32, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
List_of_years_in_science
I know we cant include so many pages, but atleast last 20-30 years should be included
Madanpiyush (
talk) 09:40, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
IT vs Computer Science - aren't those two very different things? Can someone clarify if we're picking for 'Computer Science' or 'Information Technology'? Yuvi ( talk) 22:18, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, keeping in mind that we are compiling offline wiki for school children, we need to put all topics that come under IT as well as CS under the field name provided to us ie 'Information Technology'. Madanpiyush ( talk) 17:34, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Can we start taking things out of the to add / to delete lists and actually modify the actual list? Yuvi ( talk) 10:57, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi friends,
My apologies for a long silence to the team. Firstly welcome all of you to the IT OWIS team. This group is especially important as there are lots of books which act as guides for school mugging or give information on IT at higher levels but virtually no extra-curricular reading resources for IT organised around the syllabus for school students. So each of you and your efforts are very vital to the school community. So rest assured of the value and importance of the work we are involved in.
For sometime, a few of us who are able to physically meet up reflected on the asymmetry of numbers of involved people in each of the subjects. Most subjects are progressing fairly okay with a few motivated editors playing important roles across the spectrum. Some subjects like Art have few editors. However IT has a full house of editors and since lots of Wikipedians are tech guys and the rest of us are computer savvy - everybody is interested in supporting this subject.
While discussing with Hisham a few days ago, he urged me to concentrate on IT first saying that this subject was a low hanging fruit for us to get an early success. We have the editors - you guys are an awesome lineup. The articles generally tend to be well developed and supported by the world community. It will be easiest to get our collection up and about first. It will easily able to find sponsorship from IT firms to ship some tens of thousands of CDs to schools across the country. And the children would get some resources out very quickly. This would also give the entire project a major motivation and inspiration. Let me say that Ifound this a compelling argument.
Hence I write this to firstly, ask your views that we convert this topic to a high priority track. I have addressed the talkback to ALL members of OWIS and not just the IT team only as all of us are temporarily focussing on something or the other. We are all the same team members. In fact, I have opened this to the India list & notice board also for broader awareness and input.
The other topics would of course continue side by side. Priority does not make a subject more or less important - it only changes the sequence of focus based on wherever we find editors/circumstances more advantageous to tackle first.
As of now, some of us opine that we have many articles ready and want to start the selection. All of you have put in hard work, made intelligent choices and I thank you very much for that. However, to be fair, there seems to be no overall rationale for choice of articles in a holistic manner however some suggestions in the talk above are leading in this direction. I have realised that most of us are using our life's experience and our intuition to select articles of worth. That is a good thing but this approach is more useful to fill in missing useful/relevant articles once a systematic selection is done. It is obvious that the prime method of selecting articles has to be the examination of the school syllabus and systematic selection should be done based on it.
So I propose that we keep our present work aside for the moment and start selecting articles afresh as per the syllabus. This way we will realise what is the core, while any others we select that not part of the syllabus will be the value-adding extras.
We have chosen CBSE syllabus as an interim choice because it is one of the most important school systems to be found all over the country, is endorsed by a central national agency, that of the Central Government, and its syllabus is easily available online from 9th to 12th. I think as of now, we can ignore the junior classes syllabus and consider including them later on in a second iteration. Similarly, based on feedback from other school systems, such as ICSE, State boards etc, we can add more topics in the second round. Any topics already identified now itself can of course be considered for addition.
In my opinion, we will need to start checking against the syllabus and begin identifying the articles right away.
Once we have done a systematic collection of articles relevant to the syllabus, then we can consider merging the final list.
The following links are useful for checking the CBSE syllabus applicable till 2012 :
(Note: Dont pay attention to the file name. The contents inside are as mentioned by me. Poor file naming practice of CBSE.)
All points made above are applicable either now or later to other subjects too. Comments are not just welcome but vital. Please add your views.
AshLin ( talk) 14:47, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
The aim of this WikiProject is to help the organization of articles on English Wikipedia for the purpose of making offline compilations for schools, colleges and general community in India. Extract from Wikipedia:WikiProject Offline Wikipedia for Indian Schools
Conceptually, Madanpiyush is right, but the fact is that despite all our efforts, the WikiProject might not have any takers if the same does not confirm to the prescribed syllabus. If one intends to make it as a primer then its OK, but fr higher classes due weightage to the prescribed course(s) must be given. ~ DebashisM Talk 18:51, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
In report writing, greeting card and poster making it was wrong to tag the articles on report, greeting card and posters because the syllabus emphasis on the making of such using word processing and other tools(sort of DTP), not what they are...
Or may be we should write an article on the subject - eg we can see how to create a greeting card from here ........... http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/courses/a/greeting_card.htm
~ DebashisM Talk 10:13, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Refer to [ | System Software: Operating System, Compiler, Interpreter and Assembler ] Here on wiki, Interpreter page redirects to Compiler wiki Page. We cant do same in offline wiki for school children as they should know the difference between them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madanpiyush ( talk • contribs) 12:34, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
I feel need of creating a new heading where we can have topics regarding Open_source- Free_Culture_movement- Free_and_open-source_software and its various popular products like KDE, GNOME & mysql and many more. Giving open source exposure to school students will be very advantageous.
Post above added by User:Madanpiyush. Sinebot, where are you? AshLin ( talk) 08:47, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Following table will be very useful:
Madanpiyush ( talk) 10:21, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
We can use following portals to get required Articles
Madanpiyush ( talk) 10:32, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
List_of_years_in_science
I know we cant include so many pages, but atleast last 20-30 years should be included
Madanpiyush (
talk) 09:40, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
IT vs Computer Science - aren't those two very different things? Can someone clarify if we're picking for 'Computer Science' or 'Information Technology'? Yuvi ( talk) 22:18, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, keeping in mind that we are compiling offline wiki for school children, we need to put all topics that come under IT as well as CS under the field name provided to us ie 'Information Technology'. Madanpiyush ( talk) 17:34, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Can we start taking things out of the to add / to delete lists and actually modify the actual list? Yuvi ( talk) 10:57, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi friends,
My apologies for a long silence to the team. Firstly welcome all of you to the IT OWIS team. This group is especially important as there are lots of books which act as guides for school mugging or give information on IT at higher levels but virtually no extra-curricular reading resources for IT organised around the syllabus for school students. So each of you and your efforts are very vital to the school community. So rest assured of the value and importance of the work we are involved in.
For sometime, a few of us who are able to physically meet up reflected on the asymmetry of numbers of involved people in each of the subjects. Most subjects are progressing fairly okay with a few motivated editors playing important roles across the spectrum. Some subjects like Art have few editors. However IT has a full house of editors and since lots of Wikipedians are tech guys and the rest of us are computer savvy - everybody is interested in supporting this subject.
While discussing with Hisham a few days ago, he urged me to concentrate on IT first saying that this subject was a low hanging fruit for us to get an early success. We have the editors - you guys are an awesome lineup. The articles generally tend to be well developed and supported by the world community. It will be easiest to get our collection up and about first. It will easily able to find sponsorship from IT firms to ship some tens of thousands of CDs to schools across the country. And the children would get some resources out very quickly. This would also give the entire project a major motivation and inspiration. Let me say that Ifound this a compelling argument.
Hence I write this to firstly, ask your views that we convert this topic to a high priority track. I have addressed the talkback to ALL members of OWIS and not just the IT team only as all of us are temporarily focussing on something or the other. We are all the same team members. In fact, I have opened this to the India list & notice board also for broader awareness and input.
The other topics would of course continue side by side. Priority does not make a subject more or less important - it only changes the sequence of focus based on wherever we find editors/circumstances more advantageous to tackle first.
As of now, some of us opine that we have many articles ready and want to start the selection. All of you have put in hard work, made intelligent choices and I thank you very much for that. However, to be fair, there seems to be no overall rationale for choice of articles in a holistic manner however some suggestions in the talk above are leading in this direction. I have realised that most of us are using our life's experience and our intuition to select articles of worth. That is a good thing but this approach is more useful to fill in missing useful/relevant articles once a systematic selection is done. It is obvious that the prime method of selecting articles has to be the examination of the school syllabus and systematic selection should be done based on it.
So I propose that we keep our present work aside for the moment and start selecting articles afresh as per the syllabus. This way we will realise what is the core, while any others we select that not part of the syllabus will be the value-adding extras.
We have chosen CBSE syllabus as an interim choice because it is one of the most important school systems to be found all over the country, is endorsed by a central national agency, that of the Central Government, and its syllabus is easily available online from 9th to 12th. I think as of now, we can ignore the junior classes syllabus and consider including them later on in a second iteration. Similarly, based on feedback from other school systems, such as ICSE, State boards etc, we can add more topics in the second round. Any topics already identified now itself can of course be considered for addition.
In my opinion, we will need to start checking against the syllabus and begin identifying the articles right away.
Once we have done a systematic collection of articles relevant to the syllabus, then we can consider merging the final list.
The following links are useful for checking the CBSE syllabus applicable till 2012 :
(Note: Dont pay attention to the file name. The contents inside are as mentioned by me. Poor file naming practice of CBSE.)
All points made above are applicable either now or later to other subjects too. Comments are not just welcome but vital. Please add your views.
AshLin ( talk) 14:47, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
The aim of this WikiProject is to help the organization of articles on English Wikipedia for the purpose of making offline compilations for schools, colleges and general community in India. Extract from Wikipedia:WikiProject Offline Wikipedia for Indian Schools
Conceptually, Madanpiyush is right, but the fact is that despite all our efforts, the WikiProject might not have any takers if the same does not confirm to the prescribed syllabus. If one intends to make it as a primer then its OK, but fr higher classes due weightage to the prescribed course(s) must be given. ~ DebashisM Talk 18:51, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
In report writing, greeting card and poster making it was wrong to tag the articles on report, greeting card and posters because the syllabus emphasis on the making of such using word processing and other tools(sort of DTP), not what they are...
Or may be we should write an article on the subject - eg we can see how to create a greeting card from here ........... http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/courses/a/greeting_card.htm
~ DebashisM Talk 10:13, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Refer to [ | System Software: Operating System, Compiler, Interpreter and Assembler ] Here on wiki, Interpreter page redirects to Compiler wiki Page. We cant do same in offline wiki for school children as they should know the difference between them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madanpiyush ( talk • contribs) 12:34, 8 February 2012 (UTC)