We should start preparing for the upcoming general election. I have just drafted an article for Virginia Andersen, Labour's candidate for Hutt South. What should our tasks be? Should we make a project page for this? J 947 03:07, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi J947, I removed the navbox from the article because he isn't included in the box himself. Mattlore ( talk) 00:27, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
I have reinstated the conversation here. Feel free to voice your opinion on the matter. J 947 00:43, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Little confused as to why my name is getting pinged all over the place??? Kiwichris ( talk) 05:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
So now that the Labour Party template has been expanded to include deputies, secretaries and whips, I added the template to the pages for those individuals as they now feature in the template like leaders and presidents. J947 has reverted every one of those edits with the rationale "not in navbox", though now they actually are. Is this linked back to the conversation/s here somehow? This is all getting very confusing :( Kiwichris ( talk) 04:56, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Following the "Squad maintenance" link on the template helps identify mismatches between transclusions and links. Not all of these are errors however. Mattlore ( talk) 05:48, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I have set up an unreferenced draft of the oldest current Members of parliament at my sandbox. Feel free to put your input there. Schwede66, Kiwichris, and Hugo999 might be interested. J 947 05:31, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
If anyone speaks Lua, it's probably possible to code these (longest serving, etc) as a template based on the live wikidata data. Stuartyeates ( talk) 07:12, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Should we use the "(New Zealand electorate)" dab for all electorates or not? There are discussions regarding that here and here. J 947 20:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Popping in here after Schwede66's ping. Yes, I can explain how that came about. The relevant discussion was in September 2006 at WT:WikiProject UK Parliament constituencies/Archive_3#Article_names.2C_guidelines_needed.3F, in which there was a consensus to accept a proposal by me to standardise on the "FooPlace (UK Parliament constituency)" format.
There were a very small number of objections in the first few months as the standard format was implemented, but since then it has (AFAIK) been uncontroversial. I note that a similar format has been adopted consistently in India: see Category:Constituencies of the Lok Sabha.
The UK convention followed a similar proposal which I had made earlier that year in relation to Ireland, at Category talk:Parliamentary constituencies in the Republic of Ireland#The_case_for_a_consistent_naming_format. It led to Irish constituencies being named "FooPlace ([parliamentname] constituency", to distinguish between the many different parliaments to which people have been elected on the island of Ireland (At a quick tot, I count at least eight!)
I suggest that both of those rationales are relevant to your discussion here, and would bear some reading. I would highlight a few points, using the UK+Ireland word "constituency" rather than your term "electorate":
One point I would add is that AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong!) New Zealand has only ever had elections to one parliament, rather than to the 8+ in Ireland and the 13+ in the UK (which used to include all of Ireland). That may reduce the need for including the Parl name in the article title, but beware that as a former UK colony, New Zealand shares some geographical names with the UK and with other former British colonies such as Canada. If your goal is a guaranteed-unique name, that needs to be born in mind.
I hope this helps your discussions. I am not advocating any particular solution for NZ, just explaining how the UK and Irish naming structures arose. However, I would note that the UK and Irish conventions were adopted by broad consensus after lengthy discussions, and have been stable for a decade. Hope that all this helps, and sorry for the verbosity. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:11, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Feel free to place a !vote here. J 947 19:46, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Sort of related to the above proposition there are a few electorate articles I thought could potentially be assimilated. The ones that come to mind are Wellington Suburbs & Wellington Suburbs and Country and Auckland West & West Auckland both having such similar names. The former is probably more likely for a merge than the latter, as they were contemporary with WS&C being created out of WS and then quickly renamed back to WS at the next redistribution, while AW and WA are separated by several decades. Another case is Waimea, Waimea-Picton & Waimea-Sounds.
Combinations of similarly named electorates are already present with Hawkes Bay and Hawkes' Bay using the same page and ditto for Wanganui and Whanganui. The Nelson electorate article is also for all variations thereof (Town of Nelson, City of Nelson and just Nelson).
It's just an idea. Kiwichris ( talk) 06:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Since I'm here, I will chip in my tuppenceworth. In the UK and Ireland discussions, we adopted a firm principle of a precise one-to-one correlation between constituency name and article. So for example if "West FooShire" was renamed "South-West Fooshire" without any boundary changes, we have two separate articles ... and if "East Footown" existed in two separate incarnations with zero boundary overlap, we have one article.
The consensus was that any other solution created massive confusion. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:19, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I see that Kiwichris has recently made a sidebar for Michael Joseph Savage here. What do participants think should be the notability criteria for those New Zealand politician sidebars? J 947 20:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Notability only applies to articles not to the content of articles. The requirement is whether this is best as a sidebar or a navbox. Navboxes collapse together much better, and the consensus is that you can have more navboxes in an article than sidebars, so if you have a very-high profile person in your group you're more likely to get a navbox in than a sidebar included. Stuartyeates ( talk) 07:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Just thinking about how we use a second electorate box for second ballots for the 1908 and 1911 elections (with the Second Ballot Act 1908). I was wondering how people thought of possibly adopting the Australian approach of putting the data from both ballots in the same infobox. To my mind this makes things much tidier and easier to read. I've had a go at "New Zealandizing" the Australian election boxes and made an example of what I mean below:
Party | Candidate | Votes | % | ±% | |
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Liberal | James Craigie | 2,610 | 39.63 | ||
Conservative | William David Campbell | 2,478 | 37.63 | ||
Ind. Labour League | George Koller | 1,259 | 19.11 | ||
Independent Liberal | Joseph Mahoney | 133 | 2.01 | ||
Informal votes | 105 | 1.59 | |||
Majority | 132 | 2.00 | |||
Turnout | 6,585 | 82.66 | |||
Second ballot result | |||||
Liberal | James Craigie | 3,349 | 52.79 | +13.16 | |
Conservative | William David Campbell | 2,969 | 46.80 | +9.17 | |
Informal votes | 26 | 0.40 | -1.61 | ||
Majority | 380 | 5.98 | +4.39 | ||
Turnout | 6,344 | 79.63 | -3.03 |
What do people think? Kiwichris ( talk) 05:21, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I was thinking we could have an organised expansion project here making new articles (or expand to Start-class) for by-elections. We'll start with the ones in the 1st New Zealand Parliament.
Date | Name | Quality | Editors | Status |
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19 June 1854 | Town of Nelson by-election, 1854 |
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21 June 1854 | Waimea by-election, 1854 |
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4 August 1854 | City of Auckland by-election, 1854 |
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Thoughts? J 947 18:50, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I made a brand new territorial authorities map. It is very detailed, and it's SVG! I think it could be the basis for replacing a lot of other maps currently in use on the pages this project covers (e.g. c:Category:Locator maps of districts of the North Island). -- Korakys ( talk) 04:57, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
In a similar light, I've made up an incredibly basic map of the local electoral boundaries in Wellington City (pictured left). Does anyone know how I could improve it to the standard used on the maps shown above? Kiwichris ( talk) 08:33, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I've just created a proposed notability guideline at User:J947/Notability (New Zealand politics). I'd like some suggestions. J 947 18:16, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Fanx and I are having a discussion about candidate and results templates. Please feel free to join in. Schwede 66 18:37, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
The redirect Workers' Power (New Zealand), linked to from Socialism in New Zealand, has been nominated at RfD. You are invited to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 20#Workers' Power (New Zealand). Thryduulf ( talk) 21:26, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
So with Peter Dunne quitting politics are United Future still contesting? Also who will replace him as the father of the house? The qualification for that "unofficial" title must claim continuous service if I'm not mistaken, with himself, Murray McCully and Maurice Williamson all retiring that would make Bill English the new father by my calculations. Is that right? Kiwichris ( talk) 07:29, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Should Deputy Mayors of Wellington be considered automatically notable? I've noticed that Kiwichris has created a few recently. J 947( c) ( m) 08:26, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
How come people are using the increase/decrease templates in the 2017 electorate result tables? Kiwichris ( talk) 00:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
A draft article created in the project page for the 2017 election, Gaurav Sharma (politician) has been placed in the mainspace despite being unelected. It did have a WP:PROD which has been removed. I have doubts around notability and was seeking other opinions. Kiwichris ( talk) 04:28, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! I've also notified Instanoodle of the AfD, as that user wrote the bulk of the article and moved it into mainspace. Schwede 66 03:50, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
We need to have a discussion as to where we go from here regarding the electorate results for every New Zealand electorate. Recently I was involved in this discussion with User:Akld guy who reverted an edit of mine on West Coast-Tasman as I attempted to correct the results. The reason was because it conflicts with WP:OR. The 2017 election results as posted by the Electoral Commission do not provide these numbers. The same principle should be applied to all MMP elections from 1996 onwards. Questions:
Ajf773 ( talk) 00:35, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
I have reverted all my edits to the articles. I'm not happy about doing it but thought it ought to be done before someone unwittingly makes unrelated edits, as it would then be more tricky to revert. Akld guy ( talk) 02:11, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Could others please watchlist Māori electorates and engage in discussion about the appropriate use of macrons? Schwede 66 03:59, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
When Peters serves as PM in Ardern's absence during parental leave I am foreseeing contentious editing on the related pages and thought we should make a plan around Peters' inclusion on lists regarding PM's. So far as I can tell while Peters is "acting" as PM he won't be sworn in as PM outright like William Hall-Jones or Francis Bell but will serve similarly to how Hugh Watt did in 1974. I'm not sure what constitutional precedents there are (if any), but either way he will be included in lists here right? Kiwichris ( talk) 05:51, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
I wanted to ask a question about Category:New Zealand politicians. Specifically, it seems to contain a weirdly large cluster of bare stubs which assert that their subject existed as a politician, but completely fail to explain what political role or roles the person ever actually held. Politicians, whenever possible, should be subcategorized by role and/or location rather than just sitting directly in "Country politicians" — but I'm completely stuck on being able to recategorize any of them, and most of them seem to claim notability purely for receiving not necessarily notable honours (like one-off medals that had over 100,000 recipients) rather than for doing anything in particular. Could somebody look into this? Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 20:04, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
I've started an RfC on changing the election/referendum naming format to move the year to the front (so e.g. French presidential election, 2017 becomes 2017 French presidential election). All comments welcome here. Cheers, Number 5 7 20:47, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
I expect most of the editors who see this will be familiar with Colin Craig, the former leader of the Conservative Party, and the series of lawsuits which followed his suspension from the party. One of the people involved in the lawsuits was John Stringer. Wikijohnstringer ( talk · contribs) made extensive changes to the Colin Craig article, and I warned him about the conflict of interest. He also created John Stringer (Christchurch), which was nominated for deletion ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Stringer (Christchurch)), and which I deleted after the creator blanked it. After further warnings about COI, which were not responded to, I blocked Wikijohnstringer's account. I subsequently blocked Laurie Thiede ( talk · contribs) (who I believe is his wife). Wikijohnstringer has emailed me asking to be unblocked. He agrees he has a "perceived conflict of interest", and suggests that he emails proposed corrections and updates to the article on Colin Craig to me.
I propose to unblock him with a condition that he not edit the articles on Colin Craig, the New Conservative Party, and on articles related to either, but that he be free to make edit requests on talk pages. I have no great interest in responding to such edit requests myself, so I am asking if there are editors in this group who would be willing to watch those pages and engage with him on changes he suggests. If no one is interested in doing this, I do not want to give him false hope.- gadfium 03:07, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
I've just noticed that Democrats for Social Credit have renamed themselves to again be known as just Social Credit (even re-adopting their 1980's logo). We currently have two articles for each iteration of essentially the same party. Now that the second iteration has rebranded to match the original I thought I would suggest here that we merge the DfSC article into Social Credit Party (New Zealand). Does this make sense with others? Kiwichris ( talk) 07:17, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
The merger proposal was unable to reach consensus. How should we proceed? Kiwichris ( talk) 08:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
As current leader of the Social Credit party, a former deputy leader, former party president (1988 to 1993), life member, and active member since 1972 I would like to advance the merger of the two pages. Please advise if anyone has any objection to me undertaking that project. User:Instepdance 12:36, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
There appears to be no consistent order of roles in infoboxes. By that, I mean some former cabinet ministers who are still MPs have their former Cabinet positions listed before their incumbent role as an MP. Do we have any policy on this? Should we standardise it? Take, for example, Nick Smith VS Amy Adams
Nauseous Man ( talk) 05:33, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
We once had a discussion where we agreed that Auckland councillors have inherent notability. If that's so, then we should produce a few bios:
Haven't looked at mayoral results yet but others may want to add the notable (bigger centre) winners here. Schwede 66 04:59, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Ok, here are the mayors where I assume we have inherent notability (well, there's just one article missing):
And we should have a think about whether chairman of a regional council comes with inherent notability, too. Not all the chairs have been determined yet (they get voted in by the regional councillors), but I've recorded what's known so far on the local elections page. Schwede 66 19:10, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Christopher Luxon is another bio that we need. Big profile and has long since met notability criteria. Has just been chosen by National as their candidate for
Botany and is therefore as good as elected.
Schwede
66 22:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
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We should probably do draft pages for the five new electorates that were created by the 2020 redistribution. I've done some groundwork for four of them, and am in the process of doing that for the fifth. I'm unsure in they should remain as draft articles or if they should be subpages here until the election.
Draft:Kaipara ki Mahurangi
Draft:Panmure-Ōtāhuhu
Draft:Southland (New Zealand electorate)
Draft:Takanini (New Zealand electorate)
Draft:Whangaparāoa (New Zealand electorate)
YttriumShrew (
talk) 22:20, 21 April 2020
I think this is probably the best place to ask this, but direct me somewhere else if it would be more appropriate to ask it there...
I have a load of .pdfs of the boundaries of the new electorates that I got as a free download off the Electoral Commission's website ( [1]). I asked them if it was OK to use them on Wikipedia, and according to them it was fine. I think this qualifies as fair use for identification purposes, but should maybe be used temporarily until alternatives can be found. Your opinions? YttriumShrew ( talk) 08:59, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
I mentioned waka-jumping in a discussion on the Wikipedia reference desk ( now archived), and that led to a follow-up question Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#NZ parliamentary bills which asked about the 2018 bill which the article mentions. It appears that the article needs updating, and some members of this task force might like to contribute to the reference desk discussion. Sorry for the late notification.- gadfium 04:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Should we 'lowercase' prime ministers, deputy prime ministers, cabinet ministers, governors general, party leaders/deputy leaders per WP:JOBTITLES, in the bios of individuals who've held any of those positions? GoodDay ( talk) 14:56, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Due to today's merger news I've asked for a deletion review of New Zealand Public Party. It might be useful for kiwis familiar with the ins and outs of our electoral system to comment on whether notability has increased or decreased.-- IdiotSavant ( talk) 02:13, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
A couple of months ago, before I made my account, I stumbled upon an interesting situation regarding Meka Whaitiri. I made a detailed post about it here, which is not a frequently checked page, in hindsight, and so has not been responded to. To summarise the matters that I laid out there, she has been mentioned in passing in media coverage over the years as being an LGBT MP, but has made no statement of how she herself identifies, at least not that I can find. This raises the question of whether or not it is appropriate to mention it in her article, or to include the article in relevant categories. Thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, MW691 ( talk) 11:51, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
References
There's a problem with the drafts for prospective MPs. See this. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:55, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Just wanted to let people know that the Electoral Commission, in their infinite wisdom, have made a change to the official election results website, electionresults.govt.nz that has some implications for links in our articles. All pages relating to past election and referendum results can now only be reached if they have archive at the beginning of the URL, like so: https://archive.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2002/index.html . Otherwise a 404 page comes up. This has broken a considerable number of links in our citations. I've been through and fixed them for the main election articles going back to 1996 and for the lists of electorate and list candidates, but there are probably a lot more on other pages. There may well be a much faster way of fixing this sort of thing than the manual correction that I've been doing, and if there is, have at it! MW691 ( talk) 09:51, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
I have created an electorates results template for copy/pasting into electorate articles. See
2020 election template on my userpage, otherwise editing sections of the
Candidates by electorate page may also suit.
Auckland Central's preliminary results are already posted.
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talk 14:37, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
We have 40 new MPs. Many of the articles are new and could thus qualify for DYK. Should we attempt a mass DYK? We'd need to submit this by Saturday evening; it could be a great project for collaboration. I've discussed this with Mike and he suggested that it could be an opportunity to get newish users exposed to DYK (and old hands who have never been near DYK) under the guidance of those of us who have some experience in this area. The main eligibility criteria are: new article (hence the deadline), long enough (1500 bytes of readable prose, i.e. when it's no longer a stub), properly referenced (we wouldn't allow anything else on WPNZ, would we?). I've put together the table below and we can keep track of eligibility and progress. Schwede 66 18:50, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Is the Companies Register an acceptable source? Wanted to put what Toni Severin's small business is, and seems to be the only source that will tell me. DrThneed ( talk) 06:43, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I've asked the Māori Party to please make a portrait photo available for Rawiri Waititi given that he has the most outstanding tā moko. Assuming that they do so, how's this for a hook? We should try and have at least one ACT and one Nat in the mix. Schwede 66 22:23, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Please record in the table below if you've done any expansions.
Key:
good to go •
does not qualify yet •
not possible to qualify
Party | Member | DYK ready? | Status |
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Labour | Ayesha Verrall |
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Article from April 2020; already very long by 18 Oct (5383 bytes) |
Labour | Vanushi Walters |
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New article (18 Oct); needs a tiny expansion. |
Labour | Camilla Belich |
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New article (17 Oct); needs expansion. |
Labour | Naisi Chen |
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New article (18 Oct); now long enough. |
Labour | Ibrahim Omer |
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New article (18 Oct). Now long enough after expansion by DrThneed. |
Labour | Rachel Brooking |
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New article (17 Oct); now long enough and good to go. Being elected on her birthday is a good DYK fact. (well, not sure how that would work as part of a mass DYK but either way, the article is way too short at present to qualify).
I've worked on it & got it a little longer, may still not be enough though. DrThneed. I've expanded the lead and it's now exactly 1500 bytes! Schwede66 |
Labour | Helen White |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. |
Labour | Barbara Edmonds |
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New article (18 Oct); needs some expansion. |
Labour | Angela Roberts |
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New article (18 Oct); needs some expansion. |
Labour | Shanan Halbert |
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New article (18 Oct). Expanded, now long enough. DrTh |
Labour | Neru Leavasa |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. |
Labour | Tracey McLellan |
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New article (18 Oct). Expanded, long enough. DrTh |
Labour | Steph Lewis |
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New article (18 Oct); needs some expansion. |
Labour | Rachel Boyack |
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New article (17 Oct); needs expansion. |
Labour | Arena Williams |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. |
Labour | Ingrid Leary |
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New article (18 Oct); now long enough after expansion by DrThneed. |
Labour | Sarah Pallett |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
Labour | Gaurav Sharma |
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New article (17 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. Previous version deleted in December 2017. |
Labour | Terisa Ngobi |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
Labour | Glen Bennett |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough but needs more references. |
Labour | Tangi Utikere |
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Article from Nov 2018; not very long by 18 Oct (1175 bytes) but a 5-times expansion to 5875 bytes is a bit of a task. |
Labour | Anna Lorck |
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New article (17 Oct); long enough; good to go. |
National | Nicola Grigg |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
National | Christopher Luxon |
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Article from Nov 2019; 1775 bytes on 17 Oct and five-time expansion (8875 bytes) is a steep task |
National | Joseph Mooney |
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New article (17 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. |
National | Penny Simmonds |
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New article (17 Oct); long enough; added a reference and added her photo to the hook; that said her majority isn't massive and specials might kick her out. |
National | Simon Watts |
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New article (17 Oct). Probably long enough now, KiwiChris has expanded. |
ACT | Brooke van Velden |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough and properly referenced after a tiny expansion. |
ACT | Nicole McKee |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
ACT | Chris Baillie |
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New article (18 Oct). Expanded by DrThneed, now long enough. |
ACT | Simon Court |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; appropriately referenced. |
ACT | James McDowall |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
ACT | Karen Chhour |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
ACT | Mark Cameron |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
ACT | Toni Severin |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; appropriately referenced. |
ACT | Damien Smith |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
Greens | Teanau Tuiono |
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New article (18 Oct). Should be long enough now- DrTh. |
Greens | Elizabeth Kerekere |
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Article from Feb 2019; not very long by 18 Oct (1385 bytes) but a 5-times expansion to 6925 bytes is a bit of a task. |
Greens | Ricardo Menéndez March |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; adequately referenced. |
Māori | Rawiri Waititi |
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New article (17 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. To me it's just a question whether he'll still be the MP once the specials have been counted. We'll find out soon enough. |
There's discussion as to using a photo montage of the nine Labour MPs in a 3x3 grid. This is what it could look like. Has somebody got the right software to assemble this as a single file and upload it to Commons? Schwede 66 20:06, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that she missed the cut on the Labour list per this, yet she has an article that claims otherwise? — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:16, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Ok, she hasn't made it. That does not necessarily mean that she's not notable but inherent notability by being an MP is no longer met. I somebody has thoughts that it needs to be removed from mainspace, maybe it would be better to have that discussion on the article's talk page. I suggest that interested editors should watchlist the article. Schwede 66 19:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
User:Starzoner has gone through the articles for MPs who have retired or lost their seats and changed the date for their end of term to 6 September, when the last Parliament was dissolved. It's always been my understanding that in New Zealand (at least for the last few decades) MPs end their terms on election day, which is what was shown before Starzoner's changes. I've also just checked the Parliament website (which has already been updated following the election), and it shows the departed MPs finishing their terms on 17 October. Should these changes be reversed? MW691 ( talk) 06:00, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Ok. I will do so. But can I get the link for reference? Schwede66, MW691. Thanks. Starzoner ( talk) 20:54, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
MW691, thank you for the information. That was super duper wonderful. I have learned something today.
Starzoner (
talk) 13:28, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
There's an enquiry on the talk page of Rawiri Waititi:
I don't know the significance of 'male co-leader' and we don't seem to have an article on or even a redirect to link to. Is there something we could link to that would allow readers to figure out what that is? Sorry for the Yankee ignorance!
My reply was that many parties in New Zealand split their leadership across two co-leaders and one of them is female and the other male. It truly hadn't occurred to me that this needs spelling out. But maybe it does. What do you think should be done about it (if anything)? Schwede 66 18:46, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I've just noticed that for the 2011, 2014 and 2017 elections, any list of electorate candidates (on the "candidates by electorate" pages, or in tables of results on the pages for individual electorates) will show a Conservative candidate as New Conservative, which is anachronistic as they only added the "New" after the 2017 election. It seems to be because Template:New Conservative Party of New_Zealand/meta/shortname has been used for both the old and the new name. I don't know much about the technical workings of this sort of thing, but would it be better to have separate templates for the different names, both pointing to the article on the party? MW691 ( talk) 16:12, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
I've gone through and fixed the Conservative templates. Use the metadata Conservative Party (New Zealand) for 2011-2017 and New Conservative Party (New Zealand) for 2017-present. They both link to the page for the current party. Kiwichris ( talk) 09:24, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I've posted some post-2020 election thoughts on this talk page: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs#Post-2020 election thoughts. Schwede 66 22:47, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
We should start preparing for the upcoming general election. I have just drafted an article for Virginia Andersen, Labour's candidate for Hutt South. What should our tasks be? Should we make a project page for this? J 947 03:07, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi J947, I removed the navbox from the article because he isn't included in the box himself. Mattlore ( talk) 00:27, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
I have reinstated the conversation here. Feel free to voice your opinion on the matter. J 947 00:43, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Little confused as to why my name is getting pinged all over the place??? Kiwichris ( talk) 05:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
So now that the Labour Party template has been expanded to include deputies, secretaries and whips, I added the template to the pages for those individuals as they now feature in the template like leaders and presidents. J947 has reverted every one of those edits with the rationale "not in navbox", though now they actually are. Is this linked back to the conversation/s here somehow? This is all getting very confusing :( Kiwichris ( talk) 04:56, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Following the "Squad maintenance" link on the template helps identify mismatches between transclusions and links. Not all of these are errors however. Mattlore ( talk) 05:48, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I have set up an unreferenced draft of the oldest current Members of parliament at my sandbox. Feel free to put your input there. Schwede66, Kiwichris, and Hugo999 might be interested. J 947 05:31, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
If anyone speaks Lua, it's probably possible to code these (longest serving, etc) as a template based on the live wikidata data. Stuartyeates ( talk) 07:12, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Should we use the "(New Zealand electorate)" dab for all electorates or not? There are discussions regarding that here and here. J 947 20:23, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Popping in here after Schwede66's ping. Yes, I can explain how that came about. The relevant discussion was in September 2006 at WT:WikiProject UK Parliament constituencies/Archive_3#Article_names.2C_guidelines_needed.3F, in which there was a consensus to accept a proposal by me to standardise on the "FooPlace (UK Parliament constituency)" format.
There were a very small number of objections in the first few months as the standard format was implemented, but since then it has (AFAIK) been uncontroversial. I note that a similar format has been adopted consistently in India: see Category:Constituencies of the Lok Sabha.
The UK convention followed a similar proposal which I had made earlier that year in relation to Ireland, at Category talk:Parliamentary constituencies in the Republic of Ireland#The_case_for_a_consistent_naming_format. It led to Irish constituencies being named "FooPlace ([parliamentname] constituency", to distinguish between the many different parliaments to which people have been elected on the island of Ireland (At a quick tot, I count at least eight!)
I suggest that both of those rationales are relevant to your discussion here, and would bear some reading. I would highlight a few points, using the UK+Ireland word "constituency" rather than your term "electorate":
One point I would add is that AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong!) New Zealand has only ever had elections to one parliament, rather than to the 8+ in Ireland and the 13+ in the UK (which used to include all of Ireland). That may reduce the need for including the Parl name in the article title, but beware that as a former UK colony, New Zealand shares some geographical names with the UK and with other former British colonies such as Canada. If your goal is a guaranteed-unique name, that needs to be born in mind.
I hope this helps your discussions. I am not advocating any particular solution for NZ, just explaining how the UK and Irish naming structures arose. However, I would note that the UK and Irish conventions were adopted by broad consensus after lengthy discussions, and have been stable for a decade. Hope that all this helps, and sorry for the verbosity. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:11, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Feel free to place a !vote here. J 947 19:46, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Sort of related to the above proposition there are a few electorate articles I thought could potentially be assimilated. The ones that come to mind are Wellington Suburbs & Wellington Suburbs and Country and Auckland West & West Auckland both having such similar names. The former is probably more likely for a merge than the latter, as they were contemporary with WS&C being created out of WS and then quickly renamed back to WS at the next redistribution, while AW and WA are separated by several decades. Another case is Waimea, Waimea-Picton & Waimea-Sounds.
Combinations of similarly named electorates are already present with Hawkes Bay and Hawkes' Bay using the same page and ditto for Wanganui and Whanganui. The Nelson electorate article is also for all variations thereof (Town of Nelson, City of Nelson and just Nelson).
It's just an idea. Kiwichris ( talk) 06:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Since I'm here, I will chip in my tuppenceworth. In the UK and Ireland discussions, we adopted a firm principle of a precise one-to-one correlation between constituency name and article. So for example if "West FooShire" was renamed "South-West Fooshire" without any boundary changes, we have two separate articles ... and if "East Footown" existed in two separate incarnations with zero boundary overlap, we have one article.
The consensus was that any other solution created massive confusion. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 13:19, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
I see that Kiwichris has recently made a sidebar for Michael Joseph Savage here. What do participants think should be the notability criteria for those New Zealand politician sidebars? J 947 20:43, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
Notability only applies to articles not to the content of articles. The requirement is whether this is best as a sidebar or a navbox. Navboxes collapse together much better, and the consensus is that you can have more navboxes in an article than sidebars, so if you have a very-high profile person in your group you're more likely to get a navbox in than a sidebar included. Stuartyeates ( talk) 07:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Just thinking about how we use a second electorate box for second ballots for the 1908 and 1911 elections (with the Second Ballot Act 1908). I was wondering how people thought of possibly adopting the Australian approach of putting the data from both ballots in the same infobox. To my mind this makes things much tidier and easier to read. I've had a go at "New Zealandizing" the Australian election boxes and made an example of what I mean below:
Party | Candidate | Votes | % | ±% | |
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Liberal | James Craigie | 2,610 | 39.63 | ||
Conservative | William David Campbell | 2,478 | 37.63 | ||
Ind. Labour League | George Koller | 1,259 | 19.11 | ||
Independent Liberal | Joseph Mahoney | 133 | 2.01 | ||
Informal votes | 105 | 1.59 | |||
Majority | 132 | 2.00 | |||
Turnout | 6,585 | 82.66 | |||
Second ballot result | |||||
Liberal | James Craigie | 3,349 | 52.79 | +13.16 | |
Conservative | William David Campbell | 2,969 | 46.80 | +9.17 | |
Informal votes | 26 | 0.40 | -1.61 | ||
Majority | 380 | 5.98 | +4.39 | ||
Turnout | 6,344 | 79.63 | -3.03 |
What do people think? Kiwichris ( talk) 05:21, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I was thinking we could have an organised expansion project here making new articles (or expand to Start-class) for by-elections. We'll start with the ones in the 1st New Zealand Parliament.
Date | Name | Quality | Editors | Status |
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19 June 1854 | Town of Nelson by-election, 1854 |
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21 June 1854 | Waimea by-election, 1854 |
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4 August 1854 | City of Auckland by-election, 1854 |
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Thoughts? J 947 18:50, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I made a brand new territorial authorities map. It is very detailed, and it's SVG! I think it could be the basis for replacing a lot of other maps currently in use on the pages this project covers (e.g. c:Category:Locator maps of districts of the North Island). -- Korakys ( talk) 04:57, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
In a similar light, I've made up an incredibly basic map of the local electoral boundaries in Wellington City (pictured left). Does anyone know how I could improve it to the standard used on the maps shown above? Kiwichris ( talk) 08:33, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I've just created a proposed notability guideline at User:J947/Notability (New Zealand politics). I'd like some suggestions. J 947 18:16, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Fanx and I are having a discussion about candidate and results templates. Please feel free to join in. Schwede 66 18:37, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
The redirect Workers' Power (New Zealand), linked to from Socialism in New Zealand, has been nominated at RfD. You are invited to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 20#Workers' Power (New Zealand). Thryduulf ( talk) 21:26, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
So with Peter Dunne quitting politics are United Future still contesting? Also who will replace him as the father of the house? The qualification for that "unofficial" title must claim continuous service if I'm not mistaken, with himself, Murray McCully and Maurice Williamson all retiring that would make Bill English the new father by my calculations. Is that right? Kiwichris ( talk) 07:29, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Should Deputy Mayors of Wellington be considered automatically notable? I've noticed that Kiwichris has created a few recently. J 947( c) ( m) 08:26, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
How come people are using the increase/decrease templates in the 2017 electorate result tables? Kiwichris ( talk) 00:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
A draft article created in the project page for the 2017 election, Gaurav Sharma (politician) has been placed in the mainspace despite being unelected. It did have a WP:PROD which has been removed. I have doubts around notability and was seeking other opinions. Kiwichris ( talk) 04:28, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! I've also notified Instanoodle of the AfD, as that user wrote the bulk of the article and moved it into mainspace. Schwede 66 03:50, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
We need to have a discussion as to where we go from here regarding the electorate results for every New Zealand electorate. Recently I was involved in this discussion with User:Akld guy who reverted an edit of mine on West Coast-Tasman as I attempted to correct the results. The reason was because it conflicts with WP:OR. The 2017 election results as posted by the Electoral Commission do not provide these numbers. The same principle should be applied to all MMP elections from 1996 onwards. Questions:
Ajf773 ( talk) 00:35, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
I have reverted all my edits to the articles. I'm not happy about doing it but thought it ought to be done before someone unwittingly makes unrelated edits, as it would then be more tricky to revert. Akld guy ( talk) 02:11, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Could others please watchlist Māori electorates and engage in discussion about the appropriate use of macrons? Schwede 66 03:59, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
When Peters serves as PM in Ardern's absence during parental leave I am foreseeing contentious editing on the related pages and thought we should make a plan around Peters' inclusion on lists regarding PM's. So far as I can tell while Peters is "acting" as PM he won't be sworn in as PM outright like William Hall-Jones or Francis Bell but will serve similarly to how Hugh Watt did in 1974. I'm not sure what constitutional precedents there are (if any), but either way he will be included in lists here right? Kiwichris ( talk) 05:51, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
I wanted to ask a question about Category:New Zealand politicians. Specifically, it seems to contain a weirdly large cluster of bare stubs which assert that their subject existed as a politician, but completely fail to explain what political role or roles the person ever actually held. Politicians, whenever possible, should be subcategorized by role and/or location rather than just sitting directly in "Country politicians" — but I'm completely stuck on being able to recategorize any of them, and most of them seem to claim notability purely for receiving not necessarily notable honours (like one-off medals that had over 100,000 recipients) rather than for doing anything in particular. Could somebody look into this? Thanks. Bearcat ( talk) 20:04, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
I've started an RfC on changing the election/referendum naming format to move the year to the front (so e.g. French presidential election, 2017 becomes 2017 French presidential election). All comments welcome here. Cheers, Number 5 7 20:47, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
I expect most of the editors who see this will be familiar with Colin Craig, the former leader of the Conservative Party, and the series of lawsuits which followed his suspension from the party. One of the people involved in the lawsuits was John Stringer. Wikijohnstringer ( talk · contribs) made extensive changes to the Colin Craig article, and I warned him about the conflict of interest. He also created John Stringer (Christchurch), which was nominated for deletion ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Stringer (Christchurch)), and which I deleted after the creator blanked it. After further warnings about COI, which were not responded to, I blocked Wikijohnstringer's account. I subsequently blocked Laurie Thiede ( talk · contribs) (who I believe is his wife). Wikijohnstringer has emailed me asking to be unblocked. He agrees he has a "perceived conflict of interest", and suggests that he emails proposed corrections and updates to the article on Colin Craig to me.
I propose to unblock him with a condition that he not edit the articles on Colin Craig, the New Conservative Party, and on articles related to either, but that he be free to make edit requests on talk pages. I have no great interest in responding to such edit requests myself, so I am asking if there are editors in this group who would be willing to watch those pages and engage with him on changes he suggests. If no one is interested in doing this, I do not want to give him false hope.- gadfium 03:07, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
I've just noticed that Democrats for Social Credit have renamed themselves to again be known as just Social Credit (even re-adopting their 1980's logo). We currently have two articles for each iteration of essentially the same party. Now that the second iteration has rebranded to match the original I thought I would suggest here that we merge the DfSC article into Social Credit Party (New Zealand). Does this make sense with others? Kiwichris ( talk) 07:17, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
The merger proposal was unable to reach consensus. How should we proceed? Kiwichris ( talk) 08:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
As current leader of the Social Credit party, a former deputy leader, former party president (1988 to 1993), life member, and active member since 1972 I would like to advance the merger of the two pages. Please advise if anyone has any objection to me undertaking that project. User:Instepdance 12:36, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
There appears to be no consistent order of roles in infoboxes. By that, I mean some former cabinet ministers who are still MPs have their former Cabinet positions listed before their incumbent role as an MP. Do we have any policy on this? Should we standardise it? Take, for example, Nick Smith VS Amy Adams
Nauseous Man ( talk) 05:33, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
We once had a discussion where we agreed that Auckland councillors have inherent notability. If that's so, then we should produce a few bios:
Haven't looked at mayoral results yet but others may want to add the notable (bigger centre) winners here. Schwede 66 04:59, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Ok, here are the mayors where I assume we have inherent notability (well, there's just one article missing):
And we should have a think about whether chairman of a regional council comes with inherent notability, too. Not all the chairs have been determined yet (they get voted in by the regional councillors), but I've recorded what's known so far on the local elections page. Schwede 66 19:10, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Christopher Luxon is another bio that we need. Big profile and has long since met notability criteria. Has just been chosen by National as their candidate for
Botany and is therefore as good as elected.
Schwede
66 22:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
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We should probably do draft pages for the five new electorates that were created by the 2020 redistribution. I've done some groundwork for four of them, and am in the process of doing that for the fifth. I'm unsure in they should remain as draft articles or if they should be subpages here until the election.
Draft:Kaipara ki Mahurangi
Draft:Panmure-Ōtāhuhu
Draft:Southland (New Zealand electorate)
Draft:Takanini (New Zealand electorate)
Draft:Whangaparāoa (New Zealand electorate)
YttriumShrew (
talk) 22:20, 21 April 2020
I think this is probably the best place to ask this, but direct me somewhere else if it would be more appropriate to ask it there...
I have a load of .pdfs of the boundaries of the new electorates that I got as a free download off the Electoral Commission's website ( [1]). I asked them if it was OK to use them on Wikipedia, and according to them it was fine. I think this qualifies as fair use for identification purposes, but should maybe be used temporarily until alternatives can be found. Your opinions? YttriumShrew ( talk) 08:59, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
I mentioned waka-jumping in a discussion on the Wikipedia reference desk ( now archived), and that led to a follow-up question Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#NZ parliamentary bills which asked about the 2018 bill which the article mentions. It appears that the article needs updating, and some members of this task force might like to contribute to the reference desk discussion. Sorry for the late notification.- gadfium 04:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Should we 'lowercase' prime ministers, deputy prime ministers, cabinet ministers, governors general, party leaders/deputy leaders per WP:JOBTITLES, in the bios of individuals who've held any of those positions? GoodDay ( talk) 14:56, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Due to today's merger news I've asked for a deletion review of New Zealand Public Party. It might be useful for kiwis familiar with the ins and outs of our electoral system to comment on whether notability has increased or decreased.-- IdiotSavant ( talk) 02:13, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
A couple of months ago, before I made my account, I stumbled upon an interesting situation regarding Meka Whaitiri. I made a detailed post about it here, which is not a frequently checked page, in hindsight, and so has not been responded to. To summarise the matters that I laid out there, she has been mentioned in passing in media coverage over the years as being an LGBT MP, but has made no statement of how she herself identifies, at least not that I can find. This raises the question of whether or not it is appropriate to mention it in her article, or to include the article in relevant categories. Thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, MW691 ( talk) 11:51, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
References
There's a problem with the drafts for prospective MPs. See this. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:55, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
Just wanted to let people know that the Electoral Commission, in their infinite wisdom, have made a change to the official election results website, electionresults.govt.nz that has some implications for links in our articles. All pages relating to past election and referendum results can now only be reached if they have archive at the beginning of the URL, like so: https://archive.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2002/index.html . Otherwise a 404 page comes up. This has broken a considerable number of links in our citations. I've been through and fixed them for the main election articles going back to 1996 and for the lists of electorate and list candidates, but there are probably a lot more on other pages. There may well be a much faster way of fixing this sort of thing than the manual correction that I've been doing, and if there is, have at it! MW691 ( talk) 09:51, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
I have created an electorates results template for copy/pasting into electorate articles. See
2020 election template on my userpage, otherwise editing sections of the
Candidates by electorate page may also suit.
Auckland Central's preliminary results are already posted.
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talk 14:37, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
We have 40 new MPs. Many of the articles are new and could thus qualify for DYK. Should we attempt a mass DYK? We'd need to submit this by Saturday evening; it could be a great project for collaboration. I've discussed this with Mike and he suggested that it could be an opportunity to get newish users exposed to DYK (and old hands who have never been near DYK) under the guidance of those of us who have some experience in this area. The main eligibility criteria are: new article (hence the deadline), long enough (1500 bytes of readable prose, i.e. when it's no longer a stub), properly referenced (we wouldn't allow anything else on WPNZ, would we?). I've put together the table below and we can keep track of eligibility and progress. Schwede 66 18:50, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Is the Companies Register an acceptable source? Wanted to put what Toni Severin's small business is, and seems to be the only source that will tell me. DrThneed ( talk) 06:43, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I've asked the Māori Party to please make a portrait photo available for Rawiri Waititi given that he has the most outstanding tā moko. Assuming that they do so, how's this for a hook? We should try and have at least one ACT and one Nat in the mix. Schwede 66 22:23, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Please record in the table below if you've done any expansions.
Key:
good to go •
does not qualify yet •
not possible to qualify
Party | Member | DYK ready? | Status |
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Labour | Ayesha Verrall |
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Article from April 2020; already very long by 18 Oct (5383 bytes) |
Labour | Vanushi Walters |
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New article (18 Oct); needs a tiny expansion. |
Labour | Camilla Belich |
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New article (17 Oct); needs expansion. |
Labour | Naisi Chen |
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New article (18 Oct); now long enough. |
Labour | Ibrahim Omer |
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New article (18 Oct). Now long enough after expansion by DrThneed. |
Labour | Rachel Brooking |
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New article (17 Oct); now long enough and good to go. Being elected on her birthday is a good DYK fact. (well, not sure how that would work as part of a mass DYK but either way, the article is way too short at present to qualify).
I've worked on it & got it a little longer, may still not be enough though. DrThneed. I've expanded the lead and it's now exactly 1500 bytes! Schwede66 |
Labour | Helen White |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. |
Labour | Barbara Edmonds |
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New article (18 Oct); needs some expansion. |
Labour | Angela Roberts |
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New article (18 Oct); needs some expansion. |
Labour | Shanan Halbert |
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New article (18 Oct). Expanded, now long enough. DrTh |
Labour | Neru Leavasa |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. |
Labour | Tracey McLellan |
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New article (18 Oct). Expanded, long enough. DrTh |
Labour | Steph Lewis |
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New article (18 Oct); needs some expansion. |
Labour | Rachel Boyack |
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New article (17 Oct); needs expansion. |
Labour | Arena Williams |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. |
Labour | Ingrid Leary |
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New article (18 Oct); now long enough after expansion by DrThneed. |
Labour | Sarah Pallett |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
Labour | Gaurav Sharma |
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New article (17 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. Previous version deleted in December 2017. |
Labour | Terisa Ngobi |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
Labour | Glen Bennett |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough but needs more references. |
Labour | Tangi Utikere |
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Article from Nov 2018; not very long by 18 Oct (1175 bytes) but a 5-times expansion to 5875 bytes is a bit of a task. |
Labour | Anna Lorck |
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New article (17 Oct); long enough; good to go. |
National | Nicola Grigg |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
National | Christopher Luxon |
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Article from Nov 2019; 1775 bytes on 17 Oct and five-time expansion (8875 bytes) is a steep task |
National | Joseph Mooney |
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New article (17 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. |
National | Penny Simmonds |
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New article (17 Oct); long enough; added a reference and added her photo to the hook; that said her majority isn't massive and specials might kick her out. |
National | Simon Watts |
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New article (17 Oct). Probably long enough now, KiwiChris has expanded. |
ACT | Brooke van Velden |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough and properly referenced after a tiny expansion. |
ACT | Nicole McKee |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
ACT | Chris Baillie |
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New article (18 Oct). Expanded by DrThneed, now long enough. |
ACT | Simon Court |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; appropriately referenced. |
ACT | James McDowall |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
ACT | Karen Chhour |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
ACT | Mark Cameron |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
ACT | Toni Severin |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; appropriately referenced. |
ACT | Damien Smith |
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New article (18 Oct); needs expansion. |
Greens | Teanau Tuiono |
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New article (18 Oct). Should be long enough now- DrTh. |
Greens | Elizabeth Kerekere |
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Article from Feb 2019; not very long by 18 Oct (1385 bytes) but a 5-times expansion to 6925 bytes is a bit of a task. |
Greens | Ricardo Menéndez March |
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New article (18 Oct); long enough; adequately referenced. |
Māori | Rawiri Waititi |
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New article (17 Oct); long enough; properly referenced. To me it's just a question whether he'll still be the MP once the specials have been counted. We'll find out soon enough. |
There's discussion as to using a photo montage of the nine Labour MPs in a 3x3 grid. This is what it could look like. Has somebody got the right software to assemble this as a single file and upload it to Commons? Schwede 66 20:06, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that she missed the cut on the Labour list per this, yet she has an article that claims otherwise? — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:16, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Ok, she hasn't made it. That does not necessarily mean that she's not notable but inherent notability by being an MP is no longer met. I somebody has thoughts that it needs to be removed from mainspace, maybe it would be better to have that discussion on the article's talk page. I suggest that interested editors should watchlist the article. Schwede 66 19:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
User:Starzoner has gone through the articles for MPs who have retired or lost their seats and changed the date for their end of term to 6 September, when the last Parliament was dissolved. It's always been my understanding that in New Zealand (at least for the last few decades) MPs end their terms on election day, which is what was shown before Starzoner's changes. I've also just checked the Parliament website (which has already been updated following the election), and it shows the departed MPs finishing their terms on 17 October. Should these changes be reversed? MW691 ( talk) 06:00, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Ok. I will do so. But can I get the link for reference? Schwede66, MW691. Thanks. Starzoner ( talk) 20:54, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
MW691, thank you for the information. That was super duper wonderful. I have learned something today.
Starzoner (
talk) 13:28, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
There's an enquiry on the talk page of Rawiri Waititi:
I don't know the significance of 'male co-leader' and we don't seem to have an article on or even a redirect to link to. Is there something we could link to that would allow readers to figure out what that is? Sorry for the Yankee ignorance!
My reply was that many parties in New Zealand split their leadership across two co-leaders and one of them is female and the other male. It truly hadn't occurred to me that this needs spelling out. But maybe it does. What do you think should be done about it (if anything)? Schwede 66 18:46, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
I've just noticed that for the 2011, 2014 and 2017 elections, any list of electorate candidates (on the "candidates by electorate" pages, or in tables of results on the pages for individual electorates) will show a Conservative candidate as New Conservative, which is anachronistic as they only added the "New" after the 2017 election. It seems to be because Template:New Conservative Party of New_Zealand/meta/shortname has been used for both the old and the new name. I don't know much about the technical workings of this sort of thing, but would it be better to have separate templates for the different names, both pointing to the article on the party? MW691 ( talk) 16:12, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
I've gone through and fixed the Conservative templates. Use the metadata Conservative Party (New Zealand) for 2011-2017 and New Conservative Party (New Zealand) for 2017-present. They both link to the page for the current party. Kiwichris ( talk) 09:24, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I've posted some post-2020 election thoughts on this talk page: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs#Post-2020 election thoughts. Schwede 66 22:47, 8 November 2020 (UTC)