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Happy new year to all at the project! Another year's work has paid off. Well done, men, well done! — Imdanumber1 ( talk • contribs • email) 05:14, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Archived. :) Larry V ( talk | e-mail) 01:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm reposting this, since the question is still open:
I have nominated Image:8 (New York City Subway service).gif, Image:IRT Third Avenue Line.jpg, and Image:Third Avenue El.gif for deletion; their deletion notices can be found here.
In the same vein, what shall we do about the other MTA images Trulystand700 has uploaded? These include:
Are we ever going to actually use these images in the corresponding articles? If not, I could probably delete them without going through the WP:IFD process. Orphaning is a legitimate reason for deletion. Larry V ( talk | e-mail) 02:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
AEMoreira042281 has developed this new template, and transcluded it in all of the articles that mention transit fares (a total of 7 articles).
While I recognize this was intended as a good faith attempt to simplify and streamline the articles, I am not sure we should have gone this route. Generally, substantive content goes in the main namespace. Templates are used for "boilerplate" text, navigation, and formatting. As noted at WP:TMP:
I think the correct way to handle it would be to put the desired content directly into the main article ( New York City transit fares), and link to that article from all of the other relevant articles. Marc Shepherd ( talk) 21:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
this is what I started to add on subway stition description of NYC like here
( talk) 00:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
At pages like F (New York City Subway service), the infobox contains the terminal names, along with the bullets for services at each terminal. Somehow, the service bullets strike me as very annoying. I feel that they are visually noisy and draw attention away from the main bullet, while failing to add any information to the article. (Transfer info is already in the table of stations at the end of the article.) In this case, they certainly do not add information about the F. What is important here is that Coney Island is a terminal for the F; thus, it is listed in the infobox. The fact that the D, N, and Q terminate there also is not of particular important for the F, but rather for the station itself; this is why that information is contained in the table of stations and in the Coney Island article. Larry V ( talk | e-mail) 00:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
User:The Legendary Ranger has updated most of the NYCS service articles to indicate the type of rolling stock used. Recently, NE2 removed these statements, since there was no source for the information, but User:The Legendary Ranger restored them.
While User:The Legendary Ranger's statements about rolling stock appear to be correct (based on my own experience), I am not aware of any verifiable source for this information. Unless there is a source, I agree with User:NE2 that the information needs to be removed. Marc Shepherd ( talk) 14:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Just to note, there might be a few sources here and there (mostly newspaper articles), but they may become dated, since car assignments can change rapidly. Pacific Coast Highway { talk • contribs} 23:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
If you've haven't heard, the Flushing Line will be undergoing major construction for about two months. Maybe this should be included somehow, since it is all over the media. Then again, I'm not sure, since it is a temporary change, even if it lasts a good while. Pacific Coast Highway { talk • contribs} 23:24, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm having tons of trouble starting up a template for the Long Beach Branch of the Long Island Rail Road. I've tried to use the guide to making new ones, but I don't think it's going to work for me. ---- DanTD ( talk) 01:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I've been considering covering the three different variety of Ticket Vending Machines used primarily on the Long Island Rail Road. Should I leave out descriptions such as "Daily Machines" and "Credit/Debit Machines" when I add them to station infoboxes? ---- DanTD ( talk) 22:53, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed merging the article Buses in New York City into the articles of New York City Transit buses and MTA Bus Company...with the major reason being that these are the two bus operators for franchised public transportation within the City of New York (with two exceptions: the N24 of MTA Long Island Bus in Queens being open-door from 225 Street to Little Neck Parkway/Tulip Avenue, and the 60/1/2 of the Bee-Line System being open-door along Boston Road for their entire length in New York City).
I can't see a reason why the articles shouldn't be merged. I have placed proposals on all three pages. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 04:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
If anything the merge would be the other way, from the specific to the general. But that's probably not necessary. -- NE2 05:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
If I were to add some infoboxes for the Port Jefferson Branch and Hempstead Branch of the Long Island Rail Road, should I include the stations along the Main Line among the number of stations? ---- DanTD ( talk) 14:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Since they're all connected, every current branch is standard gauge. I don't remember coming across any mention of reguaging during the history, so I believe all branches were always standard gauge. -- NE2 07:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
What's new with using the infobox on SIR articles? Originally, plans were being made to update the infobox to be used with SIR railway articles but nothing has rose to the surface as of yet because discussions died down. I'm here to revive it and to see what can be done. Now, I don't think it's a good idea to use the NYCS infobox for SIR articles because it is for use for NYCS articles. I think it would be better to give Staten Island Railway articles their own infobox, probably under the name of "Infobox SIR" or something like that. Any thoughts? I'm hoping that we can move forward on Staten Island now since we have wrote the station articles,therefore, we can add more detail by adding an infobox. — Imdanumber1 ( talk • contribs • email) 22:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
{{s-start}}
{{s-rail|title=LIRR}}
{{s-line|system=LIRR|line=Montauk|previous=Babylon|next=Islip}}
{{end box}}
This is the name we gave similar ones on WikiProjectRoads, where you can find the previous route number and next route number. ---- DanTD ( talk) 22:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Sunday while trying to get a picture of 145th Street Bridge I got this
of a single track railroad along the Bronx shore of the Harlem River and Bronx Kill. What is this line? I'd like to put it in the correct article. Jim.henderson ( talk) 19:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
That's the Oak Point Link. -- NE2 18:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed moving the Buses used by New Jersey Transit article to Buses owned by New Jersey Transit, but believe that it may be a bit contested. As such, please discuss it here. Thanks. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 03:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Should Secaucus Junction be added to the NYC Terminals template? I don't know if the issue has been brought up before, but this was something I just started thinking about today. ---- DanTD ( talk) 21:05, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Why did we split those articles in the first place? They both short enough to be merged again and the tracks are part of the bridge, it should be part of article itself. What do you think? The Manhattan Bridge is not the only bridge with subway tracks on it. The Legendary Ranger ( talk) 00:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
The subway tracks article seems to be only referenced from the template. I would support a merger of the two articles. Alansohn ( talk) 03:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
It would probably make sense to make a section under the Manhattan Bridge page specifically for the tracks. I'm up for remerging; it seems redundant now anyway. — Imdanumber1 ( talk • contribs • email) 04:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that the article says the shuttle is extended to Euclid Avenue on summer weekends. I do know that the shuttle uses eight cars instead of its usual four during that time and we have proof on that with photos on various transit websites and videos on YouTube. However, I cannot find any sources that confirm that the shuttle is extended to Euclid Avenue, not even a photo or video. If you find any source proving this, please add them to the articles. The Legendary Ranger ( talk) 00:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey guys. Listen, I really need to know what is the status of the SIR infobox. I believe that this has been delayed too many times and I think that we really need to get this done. I will be available next week since I have no school so I can make more frequent edits than usual but I can't do it alone since I don't know much about infoboxes. I will contact Larry about this since he knows about infoboxes. — Imdanumber1 ( talk • contribs • email) 14:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I just found out that the bullet images on the IND Eighth Avenue Line was deleted. What was supposed to be wrong with it? Also, why have I been having so much trouble adding an "S" bullet to the 42nd Street Shuttle infobox? ---- DanTD ( talk) 02:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I just found out that all the infoboxes, at least on article about stations along the IRT Flushing Line are all out of whack! They're shifting to the left and leaving huge white spaces on the right! ---- DanTD ( talk) 18:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed a rename of the article to MTA New York City Bus, the DBA name of the NYCTA bus division. Discuss here. I have also posted it on Requested moves. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 06:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I know this really should be on the main WikiProject Trains page, but I've requested reassessments for a number of Long Island Rail Road station articles that are currently being overlooked. Bayside (LIRR station), Babylon (LIRR station), Cedarhurst (LIRR station), Hicksville (LIRR station), Mineola (LIRR station), and Valley Stream (LIRR station) have all been expanded considerably. I didn't make any requests for Cedarhurst or Hicksville, but I should have. Are there really that many articles in the way? ---- DanTD ( talk) 12:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
I think the articles should be merged because the R142S article has literally no information other than the car specifications. It is basically the same car as the R142A. Do you think they should be merged or not? The Legendary Ranger ( talk) 22:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I.P. Address 72.68.37.89 requested that we deleted the R8A article because it is not a revenue service car. I totally disagree with that user because that is still a subway car and I think we should add other non-revenue cars to the template like the R127s and R134s like he requested. On top of that, this I.P. does not seem to be very friendly. I wouldn't consider him a vandal, but the edits that he make are totally unnecessary. Should we keep or delete that R8A article? The Legendary Ranger ( talk) 12:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
First it's the Subways, now infoboxes for stations along the Metro-North Harlem Line are getting screwed-up. For some reason, all the blue trim has been eliminated, except for the rail color bars and the routeboxes. Why have things like this been happening? ---- DanTD ( talk) 21:30, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I have created a participants page for this project, similar to WP:USRD's list. I will be adding lists of users that have been editing New York City Trnsit-related articles within the past 30 days, however, it is up to you to add a description of what you mainy work on. You can update your status at any time (whether you're active, semi-active or inactive), as well as the projects within your focus, like New York City Transit, Long Island Rail Road, etc. and a description of what you work on, like I've aready stated. Please go to Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation/Participants. Thanks. — Imdanumber1 ( talk • contribs • email) 14:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
There are pictures from the 2004 Subway Centennial posted as being allowable so long as the copyright notice is included in the article. However, I have taken pictures of both trains in December 2007 (R1-9 train) and yesterday, April 8 (Train of Many Colors). Should I remove the MTA taken pictures in favor of the ones I took? Input is appreciated. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 04:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Once again, I'm trying to make Templates for the Long Beach Branch and Port Jefferson Branch, and I may start one on the Hempstead Branch soon as well. I admit I'm having trouble with it so here's one of them( User:DanTD/Sandbox/Template:Long Beach Branch), let me know what needs to be fixed. ---- DanTD ( talk) 23:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 5 | ← | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | → | Archive 15 |
Happy new year to all at the project! Another year's work has paid off. Well done, men, well done! — Imdanumber1 ( talk • contribs • email) 05:14, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Archived. :) Larry V ( talk | e-mail) 01:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm reposting this, since the question is still open:
I have nominated Image:8 (New York City Subway service).gif, Image:IRT Third Avenue Line.jpg, and Image:Third Avenue El.gif for deletion; their deletion notices can be found here.
In the same vein, what shall we do about the other MTA images Trulystand700 has uploaded? These include:
Are we ever going to actually use these images in the corresponding articles? If not, I could probably delete them without going through the WP:IFD process. Orphaning is a legitimate reason for deletion. Larry V ( talk | e-mail) 02:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
AEMoreira042281 has developed this new template, and transcluded it in all of the articles that mention transit fares (a total of 7 articles).
While I recognize this was intended as a good faith attempt to simplify and streamline the articles, I am not sure we should have gone this route. Generally, substantive content goes in the main namespace. Templates are used for "boilerplate" text, navigation, and formatting. As noted at WP:TMP:
I think the correct way to handle it would be to put the desired content directly into the main article ( New York City transit fares), and link to that article from all of the other relevant articles. Marc Shepherd ( talk) 21:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
this is what I started to add on subway stition description of NYC like here
( talk) 00:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
At pages like F (New York City Subway service), the infobox contains the terminal names, along with the bullets for services at each terminal. Somehow, the service bullets strike me as very annoying. I feel that they are visually noisy and draw attention away from the main bullet, while failing to add any information to the article. (Transfer info is already in the table of stations at the end of the article.) In this case, they certainly do not add information about the F. What is important here is that Coney Island is a terminal for the F; thus, it is listed in the infobox. The fact that the D, N, and Q terminate there also is not of particular important for the F, but rather for the station itself; this is why that information is contained in the table of stations and in the Coney Island article. Larry V ( talk | e-mail) 00:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
User:The Legendary Ranger has updated most of the NYCS service articles to indicate the type of rolling stock used. Recently, NE2 removed these statements, since there was no source for the information, but User:The Legendary Ranger restored them.
While User:The Legendary Ranger's statements about rolling stock appear to be correct (based on my own experience), I am not aware of any verifiable source for this information. Unless there is a source, I agree with User:NE2 that the information needs to be removed. Marc Shepherd ( talk) 14:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Just to note, there might be a few sources here and there (mostly newspaper articles), but they may become dated, since car assignments can change rapidly. Pacific Coast Highway { talk • contribs} 23:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
If you've haven't heard, the Flushing Line will be undergoing major construction for about two months. Maybe this should be included somehow, since it is all over the media. Then again, I'm not sure, since it is a temporary change, even if it lasts a good while. Pacific Coast Highway { talk • contribs} 23:24, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm having tons of trouble starting up a template for the Long Beach Branch of the Long Island Rail Road. I've tried to use the guide to making new ones, but I don't think it's going to work for me. ---- DanTD ( talk) 01:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I've been considering covering the three different variety of Ticket Vending Machines used primarily on the Long Island Rail Road. Should I leave out descriptions such as "Daily Machines" and "Credit/Debit Machines" when I add them to station infoboxes? ---- DanTD ( talk) 22:53, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed merging the article Buses in New York City into the articles of New York City Transit buses and MTA Bus Company...with the major reason being that these are the two bus operators for franchised public transportation within the City of New York (with two exceptions: the N24 of MTA Long Island Bus in Queens being open-door from 225 Street to Little Neck Parkway/Tulip Avenue, and the 60/1/2 of the Bee-Line System being open-door along Boston Road for their entire length in New York City).
I can't see a reason why the articles shouldn't be merged. I have placed proposals on all three pages. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 04:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
If anything the merge would be the other way, from the specific to the general. But that's probably not necessary. -- NE2 05:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
If I were to add some infoboxes for the Port Jefferson Branch and Hempstead Branch of the Long Island Rail Road, should I include the stations along the Main Line among the number of stations? ---- DanTD ( talk) 14:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Since they're all connected, every current branch is standard gauge. I don't remember coming across any mention of reguaging during the history, so I believe all branches were always standard gauge. -- NE2 07:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
What's new with using the infobox on SIR articles? Originally, plans were being made to update the infobox to be used with SIR railway articles but nothing has rose to the surface as of yet because discussions died down. I'm here to revive it and to see what can be done. Now, I don't think it's a good idea to use the NYCS infobox for SIR articles because it is for use for NYCS articles. I think it would be better to give Staten Island Railway articles their own infobox, probably under the name of "Infobox SIR" or something like that. Any thoughts? I'm hoping that we can move forward on Staten Island now since we have wrote the station articles,therefore, we can add more detail by adding an infobox. — Imdanumber1 ( talk • contribs • email) 22:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
{{s-start}}
{{s-rail|title=LIRR}}
{{s-line|system=LIRR|line=Montauk|previous=Babylon|next=Islip}}
{{end box}}
This is the name we gave similar ones on WikiProjectRoads, where you can find the previous route number and next route number. ---- DanTD ( talk) 22:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Sunday while trying to get a picture of 145th Street Bridge I got this
of a single track railroad along the Bronx shore of the Harlem River and Bronx Kill. What is this line? I'd like to put it in the correct article. Jim.henderson ( talk) 19:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
That's the Oak Point Link. -- NE2 18:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed moving the Buses used by New Jersey Transit article to Buses owned by New Jersey Transit, but believe that it may be a bit contested. As such, please discuss it here. Thanks. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 03:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Should Secaucus Junction be added to the NYC Terminals template? I don't know if the issue has been brought up before, but this was something I just started thinking about today. ---- DanTD ( talk) 21:05, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Why did we split those articles in the first place? They both short enough to be merged again and the tracks are part of the bridge, it should be part of article itself. What do you think? The Manhattan Bridge is not the only bridge with subway tracks on it. The Legendary Ranger ( talk) 00:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
The subway tracks article seems to be only referenced from the template. I would support a merger of the two articles. Alansohn ( talk) 03:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
It would probably make sense to make a section under the Manhattan Bridge page specifically for the tracks. I'm up for remerging; it seems redundant now anyway. — Imdanumber1 ( talk • contribs • email) 04:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that the article says the shuttle is extended to Euclid Avenue on summer weekends. I do know that the shuttle uses eight cars instead of its usual four during that time and we have proof on that with photos on various transit websites and videos on YouTube. However, I cannot find any sources that confirm that the shuttle is extended to Euclid Avenue, not even a photo or video. If you find any source proving this, please add them to the articles. The Legendary Ranger ( talk) 00:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey guys. Listen, I really need to know what is the status of the SIR infobox. I believe that this has been delayed too many times and I think that we really need to get this done. I will be available next week since I have no school so I can make more frequent edits than usual but I can't do it alone since I don't know much about infoboxes. I will contact Larry about this since he knows about infoboxes. — Imdanumber1 ( talk • contribs • email) 14:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I just found out that the bullet images on the IND Eighth Avenue Line was deleted. What was supposed to be wrong with it? Also, why have I been having so much trouble adding an "S" bullet to the 42nd Street Shuttle infobox? ---- DanTD ( talk) 02:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I just found out that all the infoboxes, at least on article about stations along the IRT Flushing Line are all out of whack! They're shifting to the left and leaving huge white spaces on the right! ---- DanTD ( talk) 18:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed a rename of the article to MTA New York City Bus, the DBA name of the NYCTA bus division. Discuss here. I have also posted it on Requested moves. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 06:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I know this really should be on the main WikiProject Trains page, but I've requested reassessments for a number of Long Island Rail Road station articles that are currently being overlooked. Bayside (LIRR station), Babylon (LIRR station), Cedarhurst (LIRR station), Hicksville (LIRR station), Mineola (LIRR station), and Valley Stream (LIRR station) have all been expanded considerably. I didn't make any requests for Cedarhurst or Hicksville, but I should have. Are there really that many articles in the way? ---- DanTD ( talk) 12:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
I think the articles should be merged because the R142S article has literally no information other than the car specifications. It is basically the same car as the R142A. Do you think they should be merged or not? The Legendary Ranger ( talk) 22:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I.P. Address 72.68.37.89 requested that we deleted the R8A article because it is not a revenue service car. I totally disagree with that user because that is still a subway car and I think we should add other non-revenue cars to the template like the R127s and R134s like he requested. On top of that, this I.P. does not seem to be very friendly. I wouldn't consider him a vandal, but the edits that he make are totally unnecessary. Should we keep or delete that R8A article? The Legendary Ranger ( talk) 12:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
First it's the Subways, now infoboxes for stations along the Metro-North Harlem Line are getting screwed-up. For some reason, all the blue trim has been eliminated, except for the rail color bars and the routeboxes. Why have things like this been happening? ---- DanTD ( talk) 21:30, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I have created a participants page for this project, similar to WP:USRD's list. I will be adding lists of users that have been editing New York City Trnsit-related articles within the past 30 days, however, it is up to you to add a description of what you mainy work on. You can update your status at any time (whether you're active, semi-active or inactive), as well as the projects within your focus, like New York City Transit, Long Island Rail Road, etc. and a description of what you work on, like I've aready stated. Please go to Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation/Participants. Thanks. — Imdanumber1 ( talk • contribs • email) 14:52, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
There are pictures from the 2004 Subway Centennial posted as being allowable so long as the copyright notice is included in the article. However, I have taken pictures of both trains in December 2007 (R1-9 train) and yesterday, April 8 (Train of Many Colors). Should I remove the MTA taken pictures in favor of the ones I took? Input is appreciated. -- AEMoreira042281 ( talk) 04:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Once again, I'm trying to make Templates for the Long Beach Branch and Port Jefferson Branch, and I may start one on the Hempstead Branch soon as well. I admit I'm having trouble with it so here's one of them( User:DanTD/Sandbox/Template:Long Beach Branch), let me know what needs to be fixed. ---- DanTD ( talk) 23:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)