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I just posted a whole bunch of new navboxes on the template page. {{ Bock and Harnick}}, {{ Jason Robert Brown}}, {{ Maury Yeston}}, {{ Gershwins}}, {{ Marvin Hamlisch}}, {{ Cole Porter}}, etc. Mostly composers, but I did make one for {{ Joseph Stein}}. I wanted to do one for Jerome Kern, but so many of the links are red. Irving Berlin, too, was kinda hard to figure out, so I haven't done him, yet, either. I also alphabetized that table.... I'm going to start putting them on articles now.— Music Maker 02:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Created it to help us fill out the redlinks on all the pretty new navboxes. I'll fill out the rest sometime later tonight after dinner :-) -- omtay 38 23:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The guy who reverted MusicMaker's edits a couple weeks ago is back, now posting as User:209.247.22.170. I reverted his edits on Saturday, but he undid my edits. Can someone else please revert him this time? -- Ssilvers 15:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I've tidied up the code a bit and, more importantly, added some new class options. Take a look at the {{ Musicals-project}} page. The new options are for categories, images, portals, and templates. Cheers! -- omtay 38 03:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated Category:London West End musicals to be renamed Category:West End musicals as "London West End" is redundant when talking about theatre. You can weigh in here. — Music Maker 5376 00:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Is this notable? It looks like a reading of a new script by students - but why did it get so much press (7 footnotes!)? -- Ssilvers 04:36, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't want to beat a dead horse (nor would I really want to beat a live horse....), but I think I'm going to start implementing the infobox in the sandbox. I left a message over at WikiProject Theatre, but there doesn't really seem to be any activity over there. I think it's pretty good, but let me know if anything is drastically incorrect or I'm forgetting something that should be on there. — Music Maker 5376 07:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
I added a Category Tree page. It's an easy way for us to keep track of the ridiculous number of categories that we have. On the talk page, I'm going to add some ideas. — Music Maker 5376 23:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
An editor made an elaborate template for The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee that doesn't seem to be a good idea. It largely duplicates information presented perfectly well elsewhere in the article and doesn't add anything, I think. I believe that the same editor is creating similar templates for other shows. If we have a consensus on this, can we please let him know? Best regards, -- Ssilvers 02:22, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Can you try to explain to him/her that we don't add those for individual musicals? I'm running out of town for two weeks and will have very limited computer access. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 04:26, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to let everyone know that {{ Infobox Theatre}} has been implemented. It's actually pretty cool -- it has fields for longitude and latitude, so the coordinates show up in the upper right hand corner of the page. The whole thing is coded with hCard so, theoretically, you can download the contact to your address book, as well as plot it on a map and get directions to it. Pretty cool. — Music Maker 5376 09:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated {{ The 25th Annual}} for deletion. You can weigh in on this page. — Music Maker 5376 21:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I've created a welcome template for new members; you can see it on the template page. It's much wider than that in practice, so it's not really that freaky looking. When using it, don't forget to use "subst" or your signature won't show: {{ subst:MTWelcome}} — Music Maker 5376 05:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
And honestly, in the current state they're in, I don't blame the nominators. We need to turn them from original research pastiche into sourced articles and maybe they'll have a chance. I've done some work on Angel Dumott Schunard but I'm afraid it may not be enough. Crystallina 12:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Small I know but i dont wanna mess around with name changes etc because on several occasions now ive screwed them up badly and it took me awhile to sort out.
This article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairspray_%282002_soundtrack%29 is the "soundtrack" page for the broadway musical, but 2 questions...
Well, a musical's cast album is definitely not a "soundtrack"! I would rename it Hairspray (album) or albums if there is more than one. -- Ssilvers 20:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
{{Infobox Album <!-- See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums --> | Name = Hairspray (cast recording) | Type = soundtrack | Artist = various artists | Cover = | Released = | Recorded = | Genre = Show tune | Length = | Label = | Producer = | Reviews = | Last album = | This album = | Next album = }}
:Recommend taking up a new Type:Cast_recording for Template:Infobox Album with WikiProject Albums. - B.C.Schmerker 03:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
(Further discussion: Template talk:Infobox Album.)
Well, kids, how should we name them? I would think that keeping them in line with the rest of WP naming conventions would be a good idea, which is why I called that article "Rent (albums)". I don't think this affects too many articles, but it may down the road (and it's a good way to cut down the size of existing articles, which is what happened with Rent). As I said above, I think "Soundtrack" is a no-no, "Cast Recording" isn't a bad idea, but my own thought is to maintain naming conventions as strictly as we can. Maybe some input from WikiProject Albums? Thoughts? — Music Maker 5376 19:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I just found Ray (soundtrack) as the article for the soundtrack to Ray (film). If that's the naming convention for film soundtrack albums, (cast recording) might be the way to go (as ridiculous as it might sound, and I agree...). If someone already hasn't, I'm going to leave a note at WP Albums. — Music Maker 5376 21:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Talking with them over at WP:ALBUMS, they should be Musical (album), Musical (YEAR album) if further dab is needed. If we need to dab further, we can decide that down the road. — Music Maker 5376 00:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Someone keeps deleting images from this article. Can anyone help restore them, please? Thanks! -- Ssilvers 16:33, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello, my nick is Hapmt (Pedro for real) and I'm from Mexico. I love opera and theatre (including of course: musical theatre). I'm glad to join this project and excited to begin contributing. While I'm not editing in Wikipedia I go to university and I work for a company called OCESA Teatro, the main theatre producer in Latin America and Spain. That's why I'm actually working on the article of a musical called " Hoy No Me Puedo Levantar", very popular in Mexico and Spain, that has created an effect similar to Rent between young people. I want to colaborate adding information of foreign productions, especially in Latin America and Spain. My next project will be adding information about the Mexico City's revival of "Beauty and the Beast" that will open on September 20th. ( Hapmt 19:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC))
The poster for The Full Monty (musical) (see: Image:FullMonty.jpg) is marked for deletion. It needs source info and fair use summary. Can anyone add it? Or, is there a better image for the article? Best regards, -- Ssilvers 15:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Why does The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas need to be forked? - DrGaellon ( talk | contribs) 20:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC) For that matter, why does Sister Act need to be forked? - DrGaellon ( talk | contribs) 20:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, I think that you have done a very good job of demonstrating that the article ought to be forked, by bifurcating it so neatly (how's that, MM?). All one needs to do is copy the bottom half into a new article, divide the references appropriately and, (here is the big part of the project) move the film links to link to the new film article. -- Ssilvers 00:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi there, I just received my welcome message so I thought I'd say hi and make people aware I've made significant changes to the Parade (musical) page. If they're totally awful please let me know! :-) Docta247 13:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Someone completely changed the starlight express article and added info on EVERY production on songs and characters and it was just useless. Ive taken out most of them, but left the main 3 versions in. However I know I haven't done a very good job of it and simply haven't got time to edit it more as im preparing for staring college next week and just everything seems to be happening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark E ( talk • contribs) 20:29, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Mark. I looked back at an earlier version where there were links to the characters and restored it. Can you take a look, please and make any necessary corrections? BTW, I do think that perhaps the new editor and you could compromise on a paragraph or two that describes all the changes in the songs (and characters) through the years. Thanks! -- Ssilvers 14:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the Starlight Express 'mess', might I respectfully comment?
The poster who enthusiastically added information and was briskly slapped down for it had spent many hours compiling the production information in the hopes that it would be of use and interest to others. Yes, perhaps steps should have been taken to ascertain that the information would be welcomed. The poster had assumed that Wikipedia pages could simply be edited - that's the general impression one gets. But I'd like to point out that the manner in which the poster was rebuked was extremely hurtful and angering. Yes, that person is known to me in real life. I thought you might like to know how abrupt and rude your reaction - and the heading 'Starlight MESS' - appears to a youngster whose enthusiasm for sharing their very comprehensive knowledge of a subject on this site has just been squashed.
The information will be posted elsewhere on the internet, on a website dedicated to musical theatre. It's Wikipedia's loss.
I am a moderator on a very well-known musical theatre website and I would be appalled if such a lack of courtesy and consideration were shown to any of the forum members there. WriterWench 15:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your courteous response. I think my young friend will learn the ropes now, and persist in posting as is deemed appropriate. WriterWench 10:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I noticed someone listed the film Gigi in the infobox included with the article for the stage production, so I removed it. I feel the only productions that should be listed in a musical theatre article are stage productions, not film versions. Shouldn't we be keeping theatre separate from film? Just my opinion - ConoscoTutto 20:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I think if we are considering a "production" as a staging of the show, then major revivals definitely should be included, but I still vote against including the film versions. If the film versions deserve as much attention as the stage productions, they have their own articles (and usually have at least a passing mention in the theatre article). If we list films in musical theatre infoboxes we're mixing two different mediums. These articles belong to the musical theatre project, not the film project, right? ConoscoTutto 19:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Musical films are included in our scope. — Music Maker 5376 19:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
It looks like the original discussion of whether or not to include them occurred here. It seems to me that the consensus was to not include them in the scope, then farther down you'll see the section "Scope" where the editor who supported keeping them edited the scope section and left them in and was never called out on it. — Music Maker 5376 00:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
After reading the article above, I found High school musicals, which I don't actually think is anything. I've AfD'd it here. — Music Maker 5376 21:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
We have three votes for a COTM. How shall we get it started? -- Ssilvers 16:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I just got finished creating a stub for the Lippa Wild Party and a somewhat fleshier stub for the LaChiusa version, based on forks from the poem article. I also fixed the disambig page to reflect the change. I am ready, willing, and eager to get to work on the LaChiusa, which I actually saw back in 2000 and which I have a lot of reference material for. I'll be doing that in the next couple of days. The Lippa version, however, is very unknown to me, so anyone who can work on that would be greatly appreciated. Also, both pages need images and people to figure out which categories and addt'l templates need to be added (I'm a writer and editor, but formatting is definitely not my strongsuit.) Of course, I'm not claiming ownership either way, but if anyone has an equal affinity for both projects, it would be less duplication of effort if he/she focused on Lippa while I flesh out LaChiusa. ChrisStansfield Contribs 23:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I've seen two ways so far to discuss the major awards won on individual articles. One way lists in prose the major awards won and any that were nominated, while another uses a table format. I was just wondering if there's been any consensus on which format is preferable. Unfortunately each has merits the other lacks- the prose form can go into detail about why it was nominated, why people think it lost or won, etc, but is not an at-a-glance format. A table is basically just a list and lacks nuance, but it's easy to refer to. Which are we officially preferring here? ChrisStansfield Contribs 23:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Generally if a musical won the Best musical Tony, that gets mentioned in the intro, but not in the first sentence. I think it is confusing to just say "Tony Award-winning". It is clearer if we first note who wrote the piece and what it is based on; then, as part of the "notability" discussion, we simply say that it won the Tony for Best musical, or won 6 Tonys out of 11 nominations, or some other description of its most notable awards in one phrase. Then, at the bottom of the article, we can list out all the Tony nominations and awards. Note that the Infobox will say if it won the Tony for Best musical. -- Ssilvers 20:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
BTW, I'd like to note that both Chris and Conosco are adding a lot of good content to the project, and I'm glad that both of you are contributing. It is hard to standardize the "style" of a bunch of different editors who all have our own different experiences, etc., but if we are respectful of each other and willing to compromise, I think we can all make a lot of progress on improving musical theatre coverage in Wikipedia. Please note (in addition to the other tasks on the "To do" list) that there is a Collaboration of the Month page in the project, and this month's collaboration is an attempt to improve the "Stub" class articles beginning with the letter "A" from Stub to at least "start" class. In most cases, they need plot synopses, historical background info and critical reception. If anyone has (or has ready access to) the Ganzl book, we could really use your help there. Best regards! -- Ssilvers 20:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I can't find any information about this Joseph Stein musical anywhere. Does anyone know for a fact if he ever completed the project? If he did, was it ever produced anywhere? If not, should it be included in his template? Thank you. ConoscoTutto 19:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I just posted a whole bunch of new navboxes on the template page. {{ Bock and Harnick}}, {{ Jason Robert Brown}}, {{ Maury Yeston}}, {{ Gershwins}}, {{ Marvin Hamlisch}}, {{ Cole Porter}}, etc. Mostly composers, but I did make one for {{ Joseph Stein}}. I wanted to do one for Jerome Kern, but so many of the links are red. Irving Berlin, too, was kinda hard to figure out, so I haven't done him, yet, either. I also alphabetized that table.... I'm going to start putting them on articles now.— Music Maker 02:54, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Created it to help us fill out the redlinks on all the pretty new navboxes. I'll fill out the rest sometime later tonight after dinner :-) -- omtay 38 23:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The guy who reverted MusicMaker's edits a couple weeks ago is back, now posting as User:209.247.22.170. I reverted his edits on Saturday, but he undid my edits. Can someone else please revert him this time? -- Ssilvers 15:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I've tidied up the code a bit and, more importantly, added some new class options. Take a look at the {{ Musicals-project}} page. The new options are for categories, images, portals, and templates. Cheers! -- omtay 38 03:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated Category:London West End musicals to be renamed Category:West End musicals as "London West End" is redundant when talking about theatre. You can weigh in here. — Music Maker 5376 00:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Is this notable? It looks like a reading of a new script by students - but why did it get so much press (7 footnotes!)? -- Ssilvers 04:36, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
I don't want to beat a dead horse (nor would I really want to beat a live horse....), but I think I'm going to start implementing the infobox in the sandbox. I left a message over at WikiProject Theatre, but there doesn't really seem to be any activity over there. I think it's pretty good, but let me know if anything is drastically incorrect or I'm forgetting something that should be on there. — Music Maker 5376 07:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
I added a Category Tree page. It's an easy way for us to keep track of the ridiculous number of categories that we have. On the talk page, I'm going to add some ideas. — Music Maker 5376 23:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
An editor made an elaborate template for The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee that doesn't seem to be a good idea. It largely duplicates information presented perfectly well elsewhere in the article and doesn't add anything, I think. I believe that the same editor is creating similar templates for other shows. If we have a consensus on this, can we please let him know? Best regards, -- Ssilvers 02:22, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Can you try to explain to him/her that we don't add those for individual musicals? I'm running out of town for two weeks and will have very limited computer access. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 04:26, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to let everyone know that {{ Infobox Theatre}} has been implemented. It's actually pretty cool -- it has fields for longitude and latitude, so the coordinates show up in the upper right hand corner of the page. The whole thing is coded with hCard so, theoretically, you can download the contact to your address book, as well as plot it on a map and get directions to it. Pretty cool. — Music Maker 5376 09:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated {{ The 25th Annual}} for deletion. You can weigh in on this page. — Music Maker 5376 21:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I've created a welcome template for new members; you can see it on the template page. It's much wider than that in practice, so it's not really that freaky looking. When using it, don't forget to use "subst" or your signature won't show: {{ subst:MTWelcome}} — Music Maker 5376 05:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
And honestly, in the current state they're in, I don't blame the nominators. We need to turn them from original research pastiche into sourced articles and maybe they'll have a chance. I've done some work on Angel Dumott Schunard but I'm afraid it may not be enough. Crystallina 12:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Small I know but i dont wanna mess around with name changes etc because on several occasions now ive screwed them up badly and it took me awhile to sort out.
This article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairspray_%282002_soundtrack%29 is the "soundtrack" page for the broadway musical, but 2 questions...
Well, a musical's cast album is definitely not a "soundtrack"! I would rename it Hairspray (album) or albums if there is more than one. -- Ssilvers 20:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
{{Infobox Album <!-- See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums --> | Name = Hairspray (cast recording) | Type = soundtrack | Artist = various artists | Cover = | Released = | Recorded = | Genre = Show tune | Length = | Label = | Producer = | Reviews = | Last album = | This album = | Next album = }}
:Recommend taking up a new Type:Cast_recording for Template:Infobox Album with WikiProject Albums. - B.C.Schmerker 03:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
(Further discussion: Template talk:Infobox Album.)
Well, kids, how should we name them? I would think that keeping them in line with the rest of WP naming conventions would be a good idea, which is why I called that article "Rent (albums)". I don't think this affects too many articles, but it may down the road (and it's a good way to cut down the size of existing articles, which is what happened with Rent). As I said above, I think "Soundtrack" is a no-no, "Cast Recording" isn't a bad idea, but my own thought is to maintain naming conventions as strictly as we can. Maybe some input from WikiProject Albums? Thoughts? — Music Maker 5376 19:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
I just found Ray (soundtrack) as the article for the soundtrack to Ray (film). If that's the naming convention for film soundtrack albums, (cast recording) might be the way to go (as ridiculous as it might sound, and I agree...). If someone already hasn't, I'm going to leave a note at WP Albums. — Music Maker 5376 21:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Talking with them over at WP:ALBUMS, they should be Musical (album), Musical (YEAR album) if further dab is needed. If we need to dab further, we can decide that down the road. — Music Maker 5376 00:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Someone keeps deleting images from this article. Can anyone help restore them, please? Thanks! -- Ssilvers 16:33, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello, my nick is Hapmt (Pedro for real) and I'm from Mexico. I love opera and theatre (including of course: musical theatre). I'm glad to join this project and excited to begin contributing. While I'm not editing in Wikipedia I go to university and I work for a company called OCESA Teatro, the main theatre producer in Latin America and Spain. That's why I'm actually working on the article of a musical called " Hoy No Me Puedo Levantar", very popular in Mexico and Spain, that has created an effect similar to Rent between young people. I want to colaborate adding information of foreign productions, especially in Latin America and Spain. My next project will be adding information about the Mexico City's revival of "Beauty and the Beast" that will open on September 20th. ( Hapmt 19:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC))
The poster for The Full Monty (musical) (see: Image:FullMonty.jpg) is marked for deletion. It needs source info and fair use summary. Can anyone add it? Or, is there a better image for the article? Best regards, -- Ssilvers 15:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Why does The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas need to be forked? - DrGaellon ( talk | contribs) 20:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC) For that matter, why does Sister Act need to be forked? - DrGaellon ( talk | contribs) 20:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, I think that you have done a very good job of demonstrating that the article ought to be forked, by bifurcating it so neatly (how's that, MM?). All one needs to do is copy the bottom half into a new article, divide the references appropriately and, (here is the big part of the project) move the film links to link to the new film article. -- Ssilvers 00:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi there, I just received my welcome message so I thought I'd say hi and make people aware I've made significant changes to the Parade (musical) page. If they're totally awful please let me know! :-) Docta247 13:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Someone completely changed the starlight express article and added info on EVERY production on songs and characters and it was just useless. Ive taken out most of them, but left the main 3 versions in. However I know I haven't done a very good job of it and simply haven't got time to edit it more as im preparing for staring college next week and just everything seems to be happening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark E ( talk • contribs) 20:29, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Mark. I looked back at an earlier version where there were links to the characters and restored it. Can you take a look, please and make any necessary corrections? BTW, I do think that perhaps the new editor and you could compromise on a paragraph or two that describes all the changes in the songs (and characters) through the years. Thanks! -- Ssilvers 14:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the Starlight Express 'mess', might I respectfully comment?
The poster who enthusiastically added information and was briskly slapped down for it had spent many hours compiling the production information in the hopes that it would be of use and interest to others. Yes, perhaps steps should have been taken to ascertain that the information would be welcomed. The poster had assumed that Wikipedia pages could simply be edited - that's the general impression one gets. But I'd like to point out that the manner in which the poster was rebuked was extremely hurtful and angering. Yes, that person is known to me in real life. I thought you might like to know how abrupt and rude your reaction - and the heading 'Starlight MESS' - appears to a youngster whose enthusiasm for sharing their very comprehensive knowledge of a subject on this site has just been squashed.
The information will be posted elsewhere on the internet, on a website dedicated to musical theatre. It's Wikipedia's loss.
I am a moderator on a very well-known musical theatre website and I would be appalled if such a lack of courtesy and consideration were shown to any of the forum members there. WriterWench 15:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your courteous response. I think my young friend will learn the ropes now, and persist in posting as is deemed appropriate. WriterWench 10:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I noticed someone listed the film Gigi in the infobox included with the article for the stage production, so I removed it. I feel the only productions that should be listed in a musical theatre article are stage productions, not film versions. Shouldn't we be keeping theatre separate from film? Just my opinion - ConoscoTutto 20:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
I think if we are considering a "production" as a staging of the show, then major revivals definitely should be included, but I still vote against including the film versions. If the film versions deserve as much attention as the stage productions, they have their own articles (and usually have at least a passing mention in the theatre article). If we list films in musical theatre infoboxes we're mixing two different mediums. These articles belong to the musical theatre project, not the film project, right? ConoscoTutto 19:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Musical films are included in our scope. — Music Maker 5376 19:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
It looks like the original discussion of whether or not to include them occurred here. It seems to me that the consensus was to not include them in the scope, then farther down you'll see the section "Scope" where the editor who supported keeping them edited the scope section and left them in and was never called out on it. — Music Maker 5376 00:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
After reading the article above, I found High school musicals, which I don't actually think is anything. I've AfD'd it here. — Music Maker 5376 21:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
We have three votes for a COTM. How shall we get it started? -- Ssilvers 16:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I just got finished creating a stub for the Lippa Wild Party and a somewhat fleshier stub for the LaChiusa version, based on forks from the poem article. I also fixed the disambig page to reflect the change. I am ready, willing, and eager to get to work on the LaChiusa, which I actually saw back in 2000 and which I have a lot of reference material for. I'll be doing that in the next couple of days. The Lippa version, however, is very unknown to me, so anyone who can work on that would be greatly appreciated. Also, both pages need images and people to figure out which categories and addt'l templates need to be added (I'm a writer and editor, but formatting is definitely not my strongsuit.) Of course, I'm not claiming ownership either way, but if anyone has an equal affinity for both projects, it would be less duplication of effort if he/she focused on Lippa while I flesh out LaChiusa. ChrisStansfield Contribs 23:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I've seen two ways so far to discuss the major awards won on individual articles. One way lists in prose the major awards won and any that were nominated, while another uses a table format. I was just wondering if there's been any consensus on which format is preferable. Unfortunately each has merits the other lacks- the prose form can go into detail about why it was nominated, why people think it lost or won, etc, but is not an at-a-glance format. A table is basically just a list and lacks nuance, but it's easy to refer to. Which are we officially preferring here? ChrisStansfield Contribs 23:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Generally if a musical won the Best musical Tony, that gets mentioned in the intro, but not in the first sentence. I think it is confusing to just say "Tony Award-winning". It is clearer if we first note who wrote the piece and what it is based on; then, as part of the "notability" discussion, we simply say that it won the Tony for Best musical, or won 6 Tonys out of 11 nominations, or some other description of its most notable awards in one phrase. Then, at the bottom of the article, we can list out all the Tony nominations and awards. Note that the Infobox will say if it won the Tony for Best musical. -- Ssilvers 20:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
BTW, I'd like to note that both Chris and Conosco are adding a lot of good content to the project, and I'm glad that both of you are contributing. It is hard to standardize the "style" of a bunch of different editors who all have our own different experiences, etc., but if we are respectful of each other and willing to compromise, I think we can all make a lot of progress on improving musical theatre coverage in Wikipedia. Please note (in addition to the other tasks on the "To do" list) that there is a Collaboration of the Month page in the project, and this month's collaboration is an attempt to improve the "Stub" class articles beginning with the letter "A" from Stub to at least "start" class. In most cases, they need plot synopses, historical background info and critical reception. If anyone has (or has ready access to) the Ganzl book, we could really use your help there. Best regards! -- Ssilvers 20:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
I can't find any information about this Joseph Stein musical anywhere. Does anyone know for a fact if he ever completed the project? If he did, was it ever produced anywhere? If not, should it be included in his template? Thank you. ConoscoTutto 19:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)